looking back on unschooling: Kate Cayley

[cheezpleaze105]

You obviously don't know what being a Victorian child was like. You think public schools are bad in this day and age?

[Ex0dus111]

Unschooling, while interesing, basically boils down to not doing something thats hard. Which means u basically end up not being challenged beyond ur comfort zone, which is not a good thing. As for the Question no unschooler wants to answer or even get into, College and getting a job, they dont stand a chance. Not saying they couldnt get a job, or get into a College but they will be seriously crippled having no experience in conforming to anything. 

[Rosebunse]

I wouldn't trade my public-schooling experience for the world. It wasn't always fun, I came home crying quite a few days, but I needed that formal structure. My mother was a single mother who didn't have the time to spend home with me or my brother and teach us. And to the girl in this video, why the hell would you want any experience to be "Victorian"? That time period sucked.

[iickle]

The problem with unschooling is that it definitely closes many doors for most people.

[ThusIsBrad]

One benefit of being in the public school social atmosphere is you get some consensus about which haircuts are awful and which look alright.

[Lyncheh]

An unschooling parent is a bad parent.

[aikimoe]

@Lyncheh Would you care to elaborate, or are you just going to leave it like that? Certainly, you were taught in school that if you criticize something, you should have facts at the ready to back up your criticisms?

[ugliguy]

I agree that school's teach you to live structured lives in a systematic format BUT the issue is in ALOT of scenerios in life after school your expected to do such. Maybe the issue isn't unschooling maybe the issue is that society is not something that praises individuality maybe that's the issue that needs to be tackled

[cocovite]

How on earth did you get hired? when u unschool ur child ur seriously limiting them to a happy and successful future and not allowing them to reach their full potential. No foundation, no basic discipline, nothing except for what the kid is interested in and "parental guidence". Go to another nation and see what unschooling can do for you. and what about the people who fought for us to get accessible education. anyways good luck

[radiofreeschool]

I am not sure i understand your question. The idea of unschooling is that the parent acts as a facilitator to the child's interests. It is sort of a partnership. The parent doesn't know everything and they do not expect that their child should be interested in the same things they are. As to resources, the parent helps the kid access the resources. What that looks like is different for everyone: what is out there, what they can afford, the internet etc. etc.

[plusmin09]

I can see how being "unschooled" could be very positive for some. I'm in college and have gone to public school my entire life. I appreciate being exposed to different topics through the mandatory classes, but find it very tedious at points and realize that I often don't retain the information learned in classes that don't interest me and look back at it as somewhat of a waste of resources.

If a child was interested in something that the parent was not, and had no resources for, what next?

[radiofreeschool]

I bet you didn't know that this young woman is an active, community member, contributing her many talents and skills to creating a more accepting society?

Many grown unschoolers I've met and interviewed are extremely committed to their communities and are often willing to receive less pay for their work then they deserve just as long as they are doing the things they love and that are important to them. They're intelligent people with strong family connections and moral consciousness.

[PeaceUdo]

@radiofreeschool That's nice. I want to know what her income is.

[Imogen1885]

If only life was all about doing everything we want when we want. But it is not. These kids are being given the expectation that the world is all about them and what they want. It results in self centred undisciplined adults.

[PeaceUdo]

@Imogen1885 Well, the most successful people make sure the world bends to them. Look at Oprah, Will Smith, etc. I have no problem with kids who respect others but view the world as their platter. That's good. Let them aim as high as they dream.

[Imogen1885]

@PeaceUdo You could add serial killers to that list.

[PeaceUdo]

@Imogen1885 Yes, you could. Your point?

[Imogen1885]

@PeaceUdo You don't have to be a unschooler in order to think big and go after your dreams. People seem to have an idealized approach to this sort off upbringing, but it is like any other. It will work for you if you make it work. I unschooled my children for a while and we knew lots of others who did the same. But I found most of the unschooled kids were rude, rowdy, disrespectful and seemed to have a lot of social problems. They needed discipline if they were ever going to make it in life.

[PeaceUdo]

@Imogen1885 You don't have to be unschooled, but I think it can work for some kids. I think some kids need more flexibility. Or there may be some kids who would have dreamed big no matter what their schooling was. I've been saying this over and over again, but maybe not to you. This whole thing seems to be an issue of knowing your child's personality.

[Imogen1885]

@PeaceUdo My kids are now a good universities. I dread to think where most of the kids we knew are today. Probably unemployed.

[PeaceUdo]

@Imogen1885 I'm starting to think that passionate people will eventually go to college or pursue a creative-type career. 

[radiofreeschool]

@arsieiuni and strika62-thank you very much for your uplifting comments. We appreciate it. Please visit us on facebook or follow us at radiofreeschool.blogspot.com

[arsieiuni]

Thank you for sharing this. The ignorance you have received in reply is appalling. I'm glad you have shared your experience because it is good to know how someone who has grown up in this model feels about it. 

[strika62]

I am a college professor (Marine Biology) and have found that the unschooled kids I encounter in class are far, far better educated and, more to the point, more prepared to engaged in meaningful, self-directly learning than most kids who have been conventionally educated. I find them better able to articulate their learning goals and then figure out ways to achieve those goals. Thanks very much Cate for taking the time to step forward and speak about your experiences.

[LOLiMovie]

@strika62 what college?

[strika62]

@LOLiMovie Prescott College, Arizona.

We emphasize hands-on, experiential learning; small class sizes and field studies.

[misteeq64]

When i think in some part of this world children fight for the right of education . I want to thank my mother you believed in the power of education , to the sisters of presentation who supported promoted our potential by opening our eyes to the wonders of learning

[Aprilshowersss]

wonderful! This is exactly how I intend to educate my children.Freedom to learn organically ftw!

[radiofreeschool]

@Aprilshowersss .

Thanks! Please join us over on radiofreeschool.blogspot.com for more about passion lead learning, and unschooling!

[jazzmatik]

For example, what if an unschooled person reaches their late teens/early 20's and only then realize that he/she wants to be a doctor? Would they have the aptitude to do well in university prerequisite courses such as Biology, Chemistry, Organic Chemistry, Physics, Calculus, etc.? I would highly doubt it unless they are a very gifted person. These courses require a foundation that is not adequately acquired through unschooling. I couldn't imagine having an unschooled physician.

[utubehayter]

@jazzmatik

I am not gifted, I am not unschooled either, just hardcore resistant to schooling, ever since I remember and even beyond that. Always considered teachers as tyrants over little helpless kids and still do. But I can surely beat a "schooled" average at such exams by quite a margin.

[bnleez]

There is no better place to learn the experiences of life than in school and all the activities that are associated with going to school - band, drama, etc. I believe that learning via natural life experiences and learning via the school curriculum do not have to be dichotomous. It is possible to meet state standards and create a learning community (i.e., one that consists of teachers, students, parents, administrators, and civic leaders) that is open, diverse, autonomous, and interactive.

[radiofreeschool]

@bnleez Are you serious? What about learning the experiences of life by being in the thick of life itself? Also, we are not against learning in 'learning places' - we are for learning with the learner in the driving seat and if that means going into an institution to gain skills then that is great as long as it's the decision of the learner-that is that they are following a path that is leading them to what they want to acheive.

[tyler9225]

In all honesty, unschooling is ridiculous. Sure, formal education is flawed (and so is homeschooling), but it's a hell of a lot better than complete absence of education. Unschooling parents have honest, honorable intentions, but they are horribly depriving their children of a critical need.

And honestly, there is only a minority of colleges (and scant if any exceptional ones) that would accept "unschooled" applicants.

[radiofreeschool]

@tyler9225 - A question-Does this young woman appear to be uneducated? What is this 'critical need' that unschooled kids are being 'deprived of'?

Where are you getting your information about unschooled kids, and colleges and universities that accept unschooled applicants? I am really interested in hearing about your experiences-were you unschooled? Do you know people who were unschooled?

Where is this all coming from. Truly keen to hear more.

Thanks!

[radiofreeschool]

@tyler9225

Hi there! quick note to say that schooling does not mean educated. Many people go to school but that does not mean that they are educated-only schooled!

[goatprincess84]

@tyler9225 I was actually told by all the colleges I have applied to that they really like having unschoolers because we're self-directed learners. I've been told by numerous teachers that I'm one of their best students because I know how to schedule myself and take charge of my own learning. Unschooling is not an absence of education, it just means self-directed learning, which is often far more rich and in depth.

[PeaceUdo]

@tyler9225 I think if the unschooled child accomplishes some incredible awards, they would have a chance to be accepted into an Ivy League.

[prisscoble]

@tyler9225 Out of curiosity, what need is that? Socialization? "Sit down and shut up" isn't social. Passion for learning? Hard to find in an institution for many kids. Advanced courses for advanced learners? Out here, those programs are more busy work than advanced studies. Familiarity with one's peers? The only time you only have social time with people all the exact same age as you is in school.

My son was losing his passion and his imagination in a public school system.

[radiofreeschool]

For more interviews on 'grown' unschoolers visit radiofreeschool.blogspot.com and search for 'grown unschoolers,' 'higher education without a high school diploma' and 'by-passing higher education.'

[radiofreeschool]

It is more than interesting. It is not a one time phenomena. I invite you to learn more about unschooling and interest-based learning/open source learning by visiting our blog -radiofreeschool.blogpsot.com and by reading up about the subject. John Taylor Gatto is a start. Grace Llewellyn another. Currently there is a great talk by Ken Robinson on TED talks. Just google to join the discussion (Bring on the Learning Revolution).

Radio Free School

[lietz13]

It's interesting, but this is a lucky situation. Pull the "no school" in more than a few cases and it sure seems 16th century in here.

[naxalitejsl]

Whatever. Parents can raise their kids however they want, in the end they have to take the SAT/ACT to get into college. In the end, they will all be judged .

[radiofreeschool]

@naxalitejsl -Not in all cases do they have to take the SAT. Depending on the college or university they can enter simply with a portfolio, an interview and sometimes an essay. They can enter as mature student at 19 and skip the whole thing. Please educate yourselves.

[naxalitejsl]

@radiofreeschool Maybe some schools but not most. Things are only getting more competitive and I would not base a kid's future on admissions criteria that change every year. What happens when that college no longer accepts a portfolio and an essay? Your response to my post tells me that unschooled kids have to avoid standardized test... possibly because they perform poorly? 

[radiofreeschool]

@naxalitejsl HI-It really depends on the college or university. Many institutions of higher learning have or are setting up entrance policies for unschoolers/homeschoolers.

Others insist on entrance with standardized testing. It is up to the unschooling family to research and find out what their target institution requires-and prepare for entrance the way the university requires. If it means taking tests then they prepare for it at the given time.

[mystic81006]

The funny thing here is We lived better before schooling then after, Before it we lived freely on our own lands. now after schooling we all now have to pay rent, buy food, buy clothes, to where before we would grow food,make our own clothes, build our own houses on our own land we clamied as ours.

[Stormlady101]

thank you for sharing this it is great to see people who have grown up this way. As a mother of 2 boys who are unschooled it is great to see how it works

[radiofreeschool]

@Stormlady101 Thanks for the enthusiasm. Visit the radio free school blog for more stories about grown unschoolers.

radiofreescgool.blogpsot,com

[Animalrocker876555]

i love unschooling it rocks!!!!!!!!!

yayyayyayyay

[k5lta]

i love it too

[EyeLean5280]

But what about the subjects you are not passionate about? Do you just then learn nothing about them? If so, how will complete ignorance of whole swaths of human knowledge help you?

And what makes you think kids who do go to school don't learn passionately? Do you think they just sit there like blank robots, taking in only what is set before them? Do you think they don't find interesting subjects to pursue as far as possible?

[patetico100]

So, she's a "writer, theatre direction, and teacher".

Are there any physicians, engineers, or organic chemists who were "unschooled"?

[VIV292]

@patetico100 say thank you to Thomas Edison he was classical unschooled google it , the guy who invented light bulb your sitting under also Albert Einstein was against traditional schooling or any formal education he hated school

"Education is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learned in school"

[psyjax]

@VIV292 By god your right! That's the trouble with the world, formal education. Why, we should not educate anyone in any formal manner, and eureka, the world would soon be populated by Edisons and Einsteins.

And for a guy who supposedly scorned education (which he didn't), Einstein sure held a lot of degrees, fellowships, and education positions.

[VIV292]

@psyjax actually Einstein did oppose formal education(Rote education) check it out he was into learning of free will

Their is a difference between Education and Learning as Einstein said "Education is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learned"

The trouble with the world is that it is very ignorant and intolerant of things , something like unschooling may make people feel insecure

I believe people won't except things if they close of their minds especially unschooling

[jazzmatik]

@VIV292 Einstein should not be used as a practical role model for unschooling. His mind is just as rare as Mozart's mind. I hope you understand what I mean by my comment.

[VIV292]

@jazzmatik I understand what you mean the example of Einstein and Mozart as a rare/great mind shows a major common theme curiosity and willingness to learn their fields

[artmomlisa]

How about Thomas Edison?

[JosephChrist]

@artmomlisa Thomas Edison was an asshole.

[DeboraFiuza]

@JosephChrist Yes! He used and manipulated Nicholas Tesla. I hate Edison.

[vagitoe]

@artmomlisa Thomas Edison was a bully and a criminal. He stole most of his innovations from other inventors, and even tried to kill AC electricity by making the argument that it is more dangerous than DC electricity.

[goatprincess84]

@patetico100 My unschooled brother is a computer engineer and network specialist who builds computers and owns his own business setting up networks for local businesses. Not a physician or organic chemist, but still more in the science related field. I also have an unschooled friend who is a marine biologist (oh, my chemistry major boyfriend would kill me for lumping that in with the sciences :-) ). I am an orientation and mobility specialist and a puppeteer - hardly only arts oriented.

[PeaceUdo]

@patetico100 Probably since you have to go to college eventually. But there are loads of schooled people who are writers, theatre directors and teachers.

Unschooling can cultivate a desire to be a physician, etc. Its easy to see how one can be attracted to these fields, but in order to have a career, you must have the degree.

[getoskater34]

@patetico100 so why couldnt there be? If an unschooled person wants to be a doctor, engineer, chemist, than they will study to be one. they will learn the things they need to know to get into the college that would be best to attain their goal. The whole purpose of unschooling is to understand that a person can learn and do almost anything they want to. They are not fed pointless information that they most likely would not retained most of their life.

[barifkin31]

@getoskater34

These are not subjects that one can 'teach oneself'. Yes, there is the 1 in a million person who is extremely intelligent and driven who can teach themselves advanced calculus or biochemistry, but for the VAST majority of people, you cannot simply open the book and voila! learn these subjects. you need to be taught them in a structured, disciplined environment.

[zoogle1]

@barifkin31

Thats an assumption based on nothing. It's also besides the point, higher education exists. Advanced calculus and biochemistry is not typical in highschool. I think you are belittling the intelligence of children. I have a 10 year old sister and she isn't a drooling retard that understands nothing. If she likes animals, she logically says "I'll be a vet" or some such thing. Then she studies and could go to uni at 15 and study for that.

[zoogle1]

@zoogle1

In fact, I'd say highschool as a whole is the most ridiculous waste of time ever. Did you know you can get into any community college and many state schools on a GED? Do you know what a GED entails? It's math and english at an 8th grade level. I know because I did just that. I left highschool and got a degree at 18. If only I could have had my whole childhood to devote time to what I was interested in.

[barifkin31]

@zoogle1

I guess the proof is in the pudding. Can you point me to a single person who's a professional mathematician or a professional scientist that was unschooled? I'd love to talk to a person who didn't receive any formal education until adulthood and went on to become a success in the fields of math or science...

Supporters seem to be saying that simply because it's possible, it's practical. Well, not really. Show me some examples of successful unschooled people...

[zoogle1]

@barifkin31

I don't know if you'd like the answer. Theres not much documentation on unschoolers. Like one half of the answer is there are hundreds of important people who taught themselves in the past, but they are all famous and dead so you might say they are special cases. The other half is just normal groups of people you may have to take at their word. Continued>

[zoogle1]

@zoogle1

Atra Taylor is a famous unschooler who went on to get college degrees at Brown University with high marks, as well as some of her siblings (some decided not to go to college). Theres various youtubers who claim to be unschoolers, who generally claim they went to college around 16-18 and got a BA in something or other. Most are normal people. One woman was an economist in finance with a brother working in CS as a programmer.

[zoogle1]

@patetico100

Yes, there are. Unschoolers have gone on to university at very young ages (15-16) and specialized in scientific fields like Physics. Have you ever heard of Michio Kaku, the theoretical string phsysicist? He is famous for making a particle accelerator in his garage when he was a teenager, on his own time. Did they teach him to make a particle accelerator in school? Did they teach him how to engineer one? No, he did it because he loved physics.

[sk8rdaniel]

Just because the education system needs to be better doesn't mean you should do nothing your whole life.

[i2Dog]

Whoa...she went to university.... didn't expect that

[metaitachi]

And i wonder where shes working right now...

[803brando]

these people are insane, the person with the most knowledge in a group of people has absolute power over the others.

[BaltoMovie]

What's sad is this is the lifestyle we have been trying to avoid since the school building of Charlemagne the Great

How can we fall so low

I see how see says the school system tries to model you into this lifeless worker I felt that way but in highschool it was nothing like

I picked my electives I liked but still learned what needed to be learned

[Losuol]

So you think that if you have a passion for biology you'll do biology and basically ignore every single aspect of life? You're screwing yourself! Schools teaches you how to work under pressure, this doesn't (hence you're never going to have a 'real' job). Schooling helps you become more well-rounded, this doesn't. Schooling basically teaches you the essentials of life beyond reading and writing at a gr.6 level, this, unfortunately, does not.

[crazytrinibago]

bullshit!!. y didnt u unschool yourself through university, if u even really went there.

Name a prominent engineer, scientist or mathematician who was unschooled ?

None!!! .... 99 % of u guys can go work at Mc Donalds....stop promoting bs 2 uneducated ppl....u turned out alright...what about d other 99% burger flippers ??

[VIV292]

@crazytrinibago hey dude try Thomas Edison/Albert Einstein for starters also a few Presidents like Woodrow Wilson and the first 15 Presidents you should look it up you will be suprised

[crazytrinibago]

@VIV292 1) why didnt she unschool herself through university ? she implied that she went there, im not sure if it was to clean toilet bowls.

2) im not interested in politicians, who really dont require any skill

3)Most educated parents have full time jobs, & wont have time to do this. I think i can safely assume, religious nut jobs & uneducated parents will mostly do this, to d detriment of their child

[VIV292]

@crazytrinibago actually I heard she is the ART director at the University of Toronto

you should research a bit more

[Divigen]

@VIV292

Ooooohh Art director

Wow!

[VIV292]

@Divigen

[crazytrinibago]

@VIV292 1) she has to have some formal education, to get this job. kind of hypocritical, i would suggest she learn only from disney channel & mtv, d real world as they boast

2)i wouldnt, be surprised if she is an art director, as these things r all free spirited things u can learn from mtv cribs. science & engineering, (ie understanding laws of gravity, calculus, special relativity), is best achieved through having someone knowledgeable to explain these complex things(ie not discorvery channel)

[VIV292]

@crazytrinibago I suggest you research her if your curios and put more thought into what you say??

Did you know driving trucks involves science and engineering , my friend drives trucks so they would qualify as a person of knowledge to drive something so big and heavy which involves "understanding laws of gravity, calculus, special relativity"

If a person wants too be a lawyer he has to go to Uni/College so if someone is unschooler or homeschooled and wants to be a lawyer thats there choice

[crazytrinibago]

Obviously driving trucks & walking require physics/math. Now is this what im talking about. Absolutely not? Im talking about having scientific knowledge & experience , 2 design efficient jet turbine engines, gps satellites, high tech electronic gadgets, not bs like driving a truck & raising chickens. im an engineering student, during d semester i get 4 hrs of sleep per night, & little time 4 socializing. ART students have it easy, most of them, drink,smoke weed & party at least twice/week

[VIV292]

@crazytrinibago So you think driving a truck is BS well can you reverse multiply combination trailer (52feetlong4half foot wide)down 6foot wide lane way first go???remember you called it" BS"

So you think Art is easier can you compose a symphony in 3minutes(Mozart did it in less) can you compose a sonnet or Haiku that is readable???? just wondering btw did you know they involve complex maths

[crazytrinibago]

@VIV292 most readily volunteer they have low IQ & couldnt get in2 any of d "serious" more expensive programs that require excellent grades. anywho, i did put alot of thought & research into it....i can see someone learning arts in unschooling, but complex mathematics, thermodynamics, fluid & orbital mechanics r extremely complex & u will frequently require an educated adult. as soon as one of d unschoolers get a prestigious scientific job, like an astronaut..then we can speak. ttyl

[EyeLean5280]

@crazytrinibago, I think you are a prejudiced person. You assume the arts are simple and easy and therefore can be learned through unschooling.

If you knew more about it, you would see that is far from the case. How can a person teach himself to read a page of classical music, much less play it well, without any sort of instruction? Drawing and painting both require a lot of very hard, uncomfortable work to master. It's not playing with play-dough.

[VIV292]

@crazytrinibago Did you know that Art and Maths are almost Identical , Do you believe that reading/writing/drawing/music also knitting(they involve some pretty tough algebra patterns)come from thin air it is just as complex as any maths

you need to look at a holistic approach especially involving science

that is great complex maths is your thing but you need think more peripheral

you may gain a great job but I have both great Career and awesome life being unschooled taught me to enjoy life

[crazytrinibago]

@VIV292 i played classical piano, starting at age 6 in the trinity school of music from london, i completed 9 grades (ie beginners as well as grade 1 to 8) for both theory & practical music. ......since i had d benefit of both worlds(science & art), yes, i do think engineering is significantly harder...................but nothing soothes my soul as sitting at a piano playing a beethoven or chopin piece. u r extrememly fortunate 2 be employed in this industry. ttyl

[VIV292]

@crazytrinibago that is awesome classical piano wow.....its not that engineering is harder than music its about satisfaction you gain from doing what you like(choices)

by the way my career I am learning/obtaining to become Master mariner(piloting ships) I'd always loved boats and wanted to be a captain of my own container vessel and yes there is a bit of formal education on the Job training its called

I am very passionate about since I was 8 If you love your Job its not called work then

[jazzmatik]

@VIV292 Being able to drive a vehicle does not equate to a theoretical understanding of physics and mathematics.

[VIV292]

@jazzmatik I suppose theory and practice are poles apart

[jazzmatik]

@crazytrinibago I thought even McDonalds required a highschool diploma.

[MrRightAllTime]

i wonder who wants to hire her

how do you even apply for a job

i should use that on my next job interview

[JustinJsen]

unchooling will kill your future. don't ever do it.

[k5lta]

everything thats different destroys your future....i doubt it

[Sparkygravity]

@JustinJsen Are you speaking from personal experience? what do you know about it?

[shakespearerox1564]

I understand this.....but wont there be kids who abuse this and essentially not know how to learn and who cannot pass any sort of GED to get a supportive career?

[widowssons]

I thought unscooling didn't have teachers?

[sapperzulu]

FAIL

[OHYESx]

beautifully put

[MultiBeeee]

Thank you so much for sharing.

It is an excellent positive outlook that I needed at a time when I was doubting my homeschooling 'methods' with my 12 year old daughter, who was labelled with a learning disability while attending public school, and worries surrounding if she is doing enough WORK in the traditional sense.

[12freebeliever11]

Thanks for sharing your experience Kate!

[hartneychevallier]

Hooray for unschooling.

[nosuchthingasauserna]

working on getting my son out of public school Since he began kindergarten it was all doom and gloom. He was always a head of his peers until he began kindergarten He was mostly home before that I continued to tell his teacher that he is reading clocks a second grade skill he could read before kindergarten and time and time again I had been told he was a problem I wish someone would please explain why he was on honor roll if he is such a problem Home school will be the way after this year.

[dameknkyansmom]

Exactly! Follow your passions and you will not go wrong.

[Divigen]

@dameknkyansmom

until you hit a point where a certain level of competence is required

[VIV292]

@Divigen no I wouldn't call it competence level I would say more experience level would be more relevant experience will always win

[Divigen]

@VIV292

Great, and when you me some statistic showing that the majority of unschoolers dont end up in mcdonalds, then we can talk of competence.

She got a a job as art director, but thats an entirely fluke job. There are by far more qualified people in the arts and curator job positions, most likely no real knowledge is required. She got lucky, most unschoolers wont, and thus

Yes, I'll super size my fries

[VIV292]

@Divigen why would unschoolers choose too work at McDonalds??I have chosen my own career path can you do the same?

unschooling is really about choices you make , If you want to work at Maccas that is an option

She chose to be a Art director and worked towards it and traveled the world doing what she likes Art/plays is that a bad thing doing what you choose to do

[Divigen]

@VIV292

How naive

You think people choose to work at mcdonalds?

people work at mcdonalds because they have no relevant skills, they spent their lives accomplishing nothing unique.

Yes, I'm sure your years of sitting on the couch eating dorritoes and watching power rangers episodes will get you a real job.

Maybe if you are lucky you can get a bullshit job like art director, but, in reality, it will most likely be mcdonalds. This won't be a choice, but itll be your only option.

[VIV292]

@Divigen Life is about making choices , Do you work at Maccas?? If yes then you chose to or unless you are a slave

"This won't be a choice, but itll be your only option." did you know option means more than one , Can't choose from one

[Divigen]

@VIV292

Typical, you live a life oblivious to reality

You do realize some people need to take a shitty job in order to afford a shelter and to buy food. Not everyone has their parents shielding and protecting them.

People need food, people might have a family, people need shelter. There are a host of reasons why someone might take a shitty job.

It seems though that in your protected, leisurely protected life you have never been the situation of compromised decision.

[VIV292]

@Divigen you can still choose from shitty jobs what is your point?

Do you compromise yourself because of your public schooling

I am not privileged because of my parents but because of their choices , Which allows me too have the experiences of traveling the world enjoying my life and having a great life

[Divigen]

@VIV292

Oh okay

A life of travelling and enjoying the world is not a privileged life.

[VIV292]

@Divigen No I work for that privilege because like I said it was my choice/career

[Divigen]

@VIV292

The occupation of being privileged.

[VIV292]

@Divigen yes its called get a job

take care my wife is getting bored I need to fix that

[Divigen]

@VIV292

Have fun pretending.

[Divigen]

@VIV292

But the case for you isn't about this though

its that you have nothing unique to offer. There is no reason for anyone to hire you over anyone else, there is no reason for anyone to prefer you over anyone else.

There is no skill or experience you have that sets you apart from others. Thus you will always fall behind over those who actually did something with their lives and progressed as a human being.

[VIV292]

@Divigen thanks for your perspective of my life did you read my Bio

[VIV292]

@Divigen I thought unschooled made me unique because everyone else are just grunts and drones of the world

[Divigen]

@VIV292

That'll look great.

Resume

Skills:

My unschooling let me see how other people are grunts.

[psyjax]

@Divigen Having worked as an art director, before, she would not qualify for that either :)

[Anatolia2]

Wonderful! Thank you.