Eh! Some of you people don't make any sense! I can't wait to study sacs outside of our galaxy, but this some pretty cool stuff. I wish they would just send a camera off into space and see what happens. If it goes into some other planet, just see what happens
Could be the ring there is the same diameter as Hoag's ring, I see so many different takes on its size when searching on the web.
Separate note: I don't have any clear idea, in view of the infra-red images, why people still say the Sombrero is a spiral galaxy and not a ring galaxy. There are faint whisps of some stuff swirling in-between the ring and core, not seeming to reach the core, but I don't think the stuff is dense enough or organized enough to say it has "spiral arms."
The 1D steady-state quantum gravity formula I'm using adds a ripple to the gravity well, it's G=Gcos[(2pi*r)/diam(p)Fp(EM/G)] where r is distance, diam(p) is corrected proton diameter and Fp(EM/G) is the ratio of electromagnetic force to gravitational force between two close nonmoving protons. I assume the core dominates the gravity picture, hence the ripple. The antimatter perspective sees the well upside-down and an antimatter core forms a peak, from matter's perspective, instead of a well.
Better than my last wild guess: M104's core is made of antimatter and the ring is made of matter, while Hoag's core and ring are both matter, so the ring diameter ratio for the two galaxies is 1:2 (60K ly/120K ly). Hoag's antimatter would be concentrated along the visual axis, perpendicular to the ring plane. The formula used here is G = Gcos(2pi*r/60K ly), which fits a minimum proton diameter corrected from its current value for temperature and measurement phenomenon (diam(p)*Fp(EM/G)=60K ly).
Wild guess: supersymmetry says one can double the mass (and charge too, I think) of a particle in different symmetry breaks off the same hypothetical high-energy symmetry state. Seems doubled proton mass and charge could reduce the proton radius by half, naturally along with the particle resolution scale. Maybe that's why Hoag's ring is about twice as large.
Ooops, I should have written that 25,000 LY is the *radius* (not diameter) of the ring, making it about half as big as I'd hoped to see. It's about half the size of Hoag's ring.
My idea was that ring size corresponded to a graviton wavelength which corresponded to a ratio between forces given the size of a proton. The ring is still in the range of 10^21 meters, but I was hoping for identical sizes. Maybe Hoag's ring forms at the end of the 2nd of two 25,000 LY wave-cycles, but I doubt it.
The ring is said to be about 25,000 LY in diameter. I've got a theory about ring galaxies but the diameter of this ring is about a fourth of what I was hoping to see. Maybe they have the size wrong, but that seems unlikely at the moment. I'm considering the possibility that in the sombrero galaxy the force of gravity is about four times stronger relative to electromagnetism than it is in our galaxy, but it seems like a long-shot.
but you age that mcuh because the closer you get to the speed of light the slower time goes. also that is why we need faster than light travel instead of light. cos if you think about it light speed is like 30mph in the galacy. then faster than light speeds could be anything. speed is like numbers it is infinate.
i'm mexican so this galaxy is by far my favorite. it just reminds me of a plate of food, i mean a taco stand there would be so frickin out of this world. it would be stellar. anyone can stop by my stand that has the technology to get there. "Jorhays Stellar Tacos n Beans" Gas up to get to the next galaxy. frickin ching ching!!
My favorite galaxy. If you think that's cool, wait till you see what the Hubble Ultra Deep Field found in Constellation Fornax. The picture is of the Fornax Cluster. IT contains at least 10,000 galaxies.
the possibilities for alien life to exist at least once in this galaxy are endless
TheSisko1 8 months ago
Eh! Some of you people don't make any sense! I can't wait to study sacs outside of our galaxy, but this some pretty cool stuff. I wish they would just send a camera off into space and see what happens. If it goes into some other planet, just see what happens
crazysis98 8 months ago
It's odd that the speed of light doesn't make much of an impression on a lot of people but going 200 mph in a car is awesome.
Which is largest, a hurricane in the Golfo de Mexico or M31?
You can get a degree in astrophysics to be A astrologer?
The universe(s) are mind boggling if you have some comprehension of time, space and distance. Hermosa!
madero111 1 year ago
Could be the ring there is the same diameter as Hoag's ring, I see so many different takes on its size when searching on the web.
Separate note: I don't have any clear idea, in view of the infra-red images, why people still say the Sombrero is a spiral galaxy and not a ring galaxy. There are faint whisps of some stuff swirling in-between the ring and core, not seeming to reach the core, but I don't think the stuff is dense enough or organized enough to say it has "spiral arms."
CACBCCCU 1 year ago
The 1D steady-state quantum gravity formula I'm using adds a ripple to the gravity well, it's G=Gcos[(2pi*r)/diam(p)Fp(EM/G)] where r is distance, diam(p) is corrected proton diameter and Fp(EM/G) is the ratio of electromagnetic force to gravitational force between two close nonmoving protons. I assume the core dominates the gravity picture, hence the ripple. The antimatter perspective sees the well upside-down and an antimatter core forms a peak, from matter's perspective, instead of a well.
CACBCCCU 1 year ago
Better than my last wild guess: M104's core is made of antimatter and the ring is made of matter, while Hoag's core and ring are both matter, so the ring diameter ratio for the two galaxies is 1:2 (60K ly/120K ly). Hoag's antimatter would be concentrated along the visual axis, perpendicular to the ring plane. The formula used here is G = Gcos(2pi*r/60K ly), which fits a minimum proton diameter corrected from its current value for temperature and measurement phenomenon (diam(p)*Fp(EM/G)=60K ly).
CACBCCCU 1 year ago
i m very curious about those planets around the circle
amicrowaveoven 1 year ago
Wild guess: supersymmetry says one can double the mass (and charge too, I think) of a particle in different symmetry breaks off the same hypothetical high-energy symmetry state. Seems doubled proton mass and charge could reduce the proton radius by half, naturally along with the particle resolution scale. Maybe that's why Hoag's ring is about twice as large.
CACBCCCU 1 year ago
Ooops, I should have written that 25,000 LY is the *radius* (not diameter) of the ring, making it about half as big as I'd hoped to see. It's about half the size of Hoag's ring.
My idea was that ring size corresponded to a graviton wavelength which corresponded to a ratio between forces given the size of a proton. The ring is still in the range of 10^21 meters, but I was hoping for identical sizes. Maybe Hoag's ring forms at the end of the 2nd of two 25,000 LY wave-cycles, but I doubt it.
CACBCCCU 1 year ago
The ring is said to be about 25,000 LY in diameter. I've got a theory about ring galaxies but the diameter of this ring is about a fourth of what I was hoping to see. Maybe they have the size wrong, but that seems unlikely at the moment. I'm considering the possibility that in the sombrero galaxy the force of gravity is about four times stronger relative to electromagnetism than it is in our galaxy, but it seems like a long-shot.
CACBCCCU 1 year ago
think of how many civilizations, rational thinking beings, things we would call life, might be in this 30 million year old image...
gdiddy2020 1 year ago
Its a beautiful Galaxy I look at the stars but i have never been able to see the dust lane with my own eyes.
nickharvey7 2 years ago
Get high on this
OLIVORTEX on myspace
oliverecords 2 years ago
sombrero is hat in chile.
youallsuck3000 3 years ago
This is where Mexicans come from, like their old Aztec ruins & carvings imply, space travel was frequent in those years.
PupuTheClown 3 years ago
isn't the middle of it like a giant black hole
XxGreenDayzxX 3 years ago
yeah. a super massive black hole.
lewisisdaman 3 years ago
no wonder you're a green day fan XD
PersianLord1995 2 years ago
That's what I heard!
davem314 2 years ago
50.000 lightyears means if you could travel at the speed of light it still takes you 50.000 year before you get to the destination ^^
Nexus753 4 years ago 3
but you age that mcuh because the closer you get to the speed of light the slower time goes. also that is why we need faster than light travel instead of light. cos if you think about it light speed is like 30mph in the galacy. then faster than light speeds could be anything. speed is like numbers it is infinate.
funnyblackmans 3 years ago
aww man i love it!
i'm mexican so this galaxy is by far my favorite. it just reminds me of a plate of food, i mean a taco stand there would be so frickin out of this world. it would be stellar. anyone can stop by my stand that has the technology to get there. "Jorhays Stellar Tacos n Beans" Gas up to get to the next galaxy. frickin ching ching!!
WaterfrontEnt 4 years ago 7
Never get there in your life time..
luckym 4 years ago
You bet man. Pretty fucking cool eh?
bigredjew 4 years ago
My favorite galaxy. If you think that's cool, wait till you see what the Hubble Ultra Deep Field found in Constellation Fornax. The picture is of the Fornax Cluster. IT contains at least 10,000 galaxies.
bigredjew 4 years ago
You are tellin me 10,000 galaxies in just one cluster, wich represents 0,001% of visual spectrum from earth ?
Yuyo1977 4 years ago
i happen to claim ownership
to this piece of space-estate
don't mess with me on that
drawninthesand 4 years ago
What are you going to do if I do mess with it, hunt me down and assrape me? Lol
bigredjew 4 years ago