Joe the Plumber attacked by the Obama campaign and media

[senorcardgage678]

Jesus is a huge douchebag

[parkerlane13]

did Biden say small business owners are''going to do very well under us'' well well, 10% of the country is unemployed, up 2.6% since Obama became president, health care overhaul and insurance mandates will KILL small businesses..im sure all the unemployed americans dont think they are doing very well

[Fajjani]

What's up with the-running-from-the-subject shit by Obama? How the hell can he defend what he and his supporters is doing towards a single person? Great president America, great president.

[Renizantsman]

It is so fascinating. Looking back now at all the recent events. IE...the economy,Palin,and of course good old Joe. Just makes me wonder. Who actually still thinks this lady is credible? And,why would I even bother to listen her? The entire FOX NOISE station has been proven to be nothing more than a JOKE!! If only people would have woken up 8 years ago. And dare I say it"Did their own research". Ill credit good old Joe with that line. Of course he never did any research,but hey...

[NoGuff]

The banning of that WFTV for asking those questions is a MESSAGE to all of the press from the Obama camp: Learn from that lesson, do not bring up Marxism, do not question us in that manner, or you will be banned. They banned some press members from the campaign jet because their papers didn't endorse Obama. They also banned Fox News from everything because FNC asks hard questions.

Obama: Sieg Heil!

[TrenchantAtheist]

NoGuff said, "Obama: Sieg Heil!"

Your account was opened May 15th, 2006 and yet you don't have a single comment on your profile... People who can't find anyone to say anything good about them are often those who need love the most because they never got any as a child (and thus they act out).

I may not believe that Jesus existed, but I agree with the general teachings that are attributed to him. So though you seek to make everyone into an enemy, I still hope you find someone who can love you.

[NoGuff]

"and yet you don't have a single comment on your profile"

--I usually just get questions. After answering them I delete them. But, like the Liberal news media you omit other relevant facts, such as the number of friends and subscribers I have, which far outnumber yours, bitch.

"you seek to make everyone into an enemy"

--Gee, is that what I do? I thought I wrote down some real facts about "The One" that you didn't like, and so you ridicule me. Typical Obama-bot atheist.

[TrenchantAtheist]

NoGuff said, "I usually just get questions"

You still haven't responded as to why no one has anything nice to say about you.

NoGuff said, "[more] friends and subscribers, which far outnumber yours, bitch"

*sigh* First, that isn't all that relevant. Many of Howard Stern's viewers are those who hate him, and myspace has "friend whores", too. Second: ending a response with ", bitch" when I was being cordial and non-confrontational? Yes, you are clearly seeking to make enemies.

[NoGuff]

"haven't responded"

--Just because you didn't like the response doesn't mean I didn't respond. Grow up.

"that isn't all that relevant"

--If you don't want it to be, I guess. You can define things any way you want & live in your little world. The rest of us will continue in the real world. Not a single one of my friends or subscribers hates me, not sure where you get that. You continue to allude to things out of left field that have no relevance, then attribute it to me, somehow. Amazing.

[TrenchantAtheist]

NoGuff said, "Just because you didn't like the response doesn't mean I didn't respond"

I didn't say that you didn't respond -- I said that you didn't address the issue I raised. Hitting the "reply" button by itself does not qualify as a response to a subject.

NoGuff said, "Not a single one of my friends or subscribers hates me, not sure where you get that."

I didn't say they did -- what I said was that having a subscriber doesn't mean they like you. Big difference.

[NoGuff]

"I didn't say that you didn't respond"

--Ummm...no. You wrote "You still haven't responded." But it sounds like I did, you just didn't like it. But in the interest of indulging you, I'll say that I don't think my channel is interesting enough for people to take time to write in about it. Is that good enough for you?

"having a subscriber doesn't mean they like you"

--But your well thought out passive-agressive statement is moot since I know for a fact none of my friends or subscribers hate me.

[TrenchantAtheist]

NoGuff said, "I don't think my channel is interesting enough for people to take time to write in about it"

Fair enough.

NoGuff said, "I know for a fact none of my friends or subscribers hate me."

Really? You've talked to each and every one of them, asking for their motives?

NoGuff said, "No, I get them"

No, you clearly don't. If you did, you wouldn't respond with accusations having nothing to do with the topic at hand.

[TrenchantAtheist]

NoGuff, there are nuances to this discussion which you continually miss, which is why you constantly fail to grasp what I'm saying. Each of my statements have been entirely relevant to the conversation insofar as they reveal the logical fallacy which you violate in each of your accusations against me. Perhaps it is true that we live in alternate realities, but do not assume that yours is the "real" one just because you live in it.

[NoGuff]

"there are nuances to this discussion which you continually miss, which is why you constantly fail to grasp what I'm saying"

--No, I get them. I'm just trying to annoy you into spelling out your messages to show how hate-filled you are.

"insofar as they reveal the logical fallacy which you violate in each of your accusations against me"

--And your tactic of trying to say I'm so hated seems to have backfired on you. And that sticks in your craw. It's so obvious.

[TrenchantAtheist]

NoGuff said, "I'm just trying to annoy you into spelling out your messages to show how hate-filled you are."

The psychological term you're looking for is "Projection". How sad that you spend all your time trying to accuse others of hatred when you are the one who constantly makes inflammatory remarks and compares everyone who disagrees with you as "Hitler" and "Obama-bots".

You haven't angered me in the slightest. You have only filled me with tremendous amounts of sadness and pity.

[TrenchantAtheist]

NoGuff said, "And your tactic of trying to say I'm so hated seems to have backfired on you"

Backfired? This would only be true if the word "backfire" meant exactly the opposite as it does today. Let me correct you: the term "backfire" refers to a reversal in direction towards the original transmitter. I'm sorry you were confused on this matter.

[TrenchantAtheist]

NoGuff, in an effort to enlighten you on the mistake of your criticism, here is what I asked: "Why has no one ever had anything nice to say about you?"

Your response was, "I mostly get questions"

If I ask you, "Why didn't you pin stripe your race car?"...

... saying "It is mostly blue" does not address the distinct lack of pin striping on your race car.

My question remains, and the response to it remains absent.

[TrenchantAtheist]

In light of the fact that you mistook this inquiry as a challenge to popularity (it wasn't), you unwittingly placed all the more weight on my question: if you boast so many more "youtube friends" and subscribers than me (for over two years now), one would expect that there would be plenty of reason for you to have amassed but one positive comment. If you want to say that you hate positive comments and promptly delete them all, then fine, but your propensity to seek attention makes me doubt it.

[NoGuff]

"there would be plenty of reason for you to have amassed but one positive comment"

--You lack facts for your new passive-agressive attack/insult. My channel used to be completely bare other than having my videos and favs listed, up until about a month ago. So for 99% of the time I've been here, there has been nothing to comment on. Why bother commenting on someone's channel if there's nothing to comment on?

[TrenchantAtheist]

NoGuff said, "You lack facts"

The only fact I cited was that you didn't have any comments on your page. This is STILL a fact. Look for yourself: do you see any comments? Because I don't.

Look again. Still no comments on your page? Well that clearly means I've got 100% accuracy with my claims.

Would you like to try again?

[NoGuff]

"your propensity to seek attention"

--Reallyt? I'm not the one who posted 7 comments in a row to one person challenging him to prove he has friends (strike that, friends who actually like him) by asking something equivalent to "are you still beating your wife?" then swerve and slither around an honest question or answer by hiding behind semantics and passive-agressive attacks.

[TrenchantAtheist]

NoGuff said, "and slither around an honest answer"

I didn't claim your answer wasn't honest, what I said was that it didn't address the issue. Your original response to my claim did not address the claim at all. I have never claimed that you were being dishonest: dishonesty requires cognizance of a lie. You simply don't know any better and accuse me of "semantics" when you just don't grasp the nature of my statements.

[NoGuff]

"here is what I asked: "Why has no one ever had anything nice to say about you?""

--Ahhh, now you're quoting. Good.

"and the response to it remains absent"

--Absent until I get a chance to respond, that is. I'm not on YT 24/7, you know?

People have had nice things to say about me, but they send those messages to me directly, or as responses to my messages. The fact that they don't use the comment posting means nothing. Any opinion you have about it remains, obviously, merely your opinion.

[TrenchantAtheist]

NoGuff said, "I thought I wrote down some real facts"

It's interesting that you think that.

NoGuff said, "and so you ridicule me"

I didn't ridicule you: I made a statement that many people who seek to be hated do so because they were not loved as children. You're free to disagree.

NoGuff said, "Typical Obama-bot atheist."

You accuse me of stereotyping and demonizing everyone who disagrees with me (which I don't) ... and then you say this. Ironic much?

Anyways, I'm moving on. Cheers.

[NoGuff]

"I didn't ridicule you: I made a statement that many people who seek to be hated do so because they were not loved as children. You're free to disagree."

--And most people who question others as to whether or not they have friends are actually gay and in the closet. You're free to agree or disagree.

[TrenchantAtheist]

NoGuff said, "And most people who question ...are actually gay and in the closet."

How terribly sad that you can't even acknowledge who you are: you accuse me of immaturity and hatred when you, in fact, are the only one who has demonstrated any such thing.

You have not aggravated me in the least. You spew much venom, but you always miss your target because you are blind. I am fine with people disagreeing with me, but I only respect those who know what we're disagreeing about.

Farewell.

[NoGuff]

Any plumbing contractor who doesn't make $250K/yr must not be a very good plumber.

I love how Obama makes fun of average Americans. Hey, just like Jack Murtha. Nice!

[carcabe]

Dependence is NOT hope but servitude and despair. Not wanting what's yours stolen is not selfish but righteous. Obama? No thanks, keep that nasty change.

Envy, jealousy and bitterness are self-destructive and not hopeful. Wake up, America

[RetardedSpiceBar]

Joe the Plumber doesn't make $250,000, but if he created a business and expanded it, he could at one point be making that much money. Then he'd be punished for his success. Wealth redistribution destroys the American Dream.

[TrenchantAtheist]

RetardedSpiceBar says, "Wealth redistribution destroys the American Dream."

Well it's a good thing Jesus isn't coming back then, isn't it? (that fuckin' Commie...)

[RetardedSpiceBar]

Yes, let's compare things that Jesus "supposedly" did to what Obama WILL do. Great idea.

[TrenchantAtheist]

RetardedSpiceBar, "Yes, let's compare things that Jesus 'supposedly' did to what Obama WILL do. Great idea."

Hey, don't get mad at me, he's not *my* savior... Weren't you paying attention? I'm the atheist here...

I'm just saying it's hypocritical to praise Jesus and then condemn communism.

[RetardedSpiceBar]

I don't pray to Jesus, I actually despise religion. Jesus can go fuck himself. Communism doesn't work. Everyone can have equal opportunity, but to make everyone equal in every aspect is impossible. People, as human beings, are driven to become more than what they currently are. There's no point in working harder if you won't make any more money, so to heavily tax the "rich" and to give "tax breaks" to the "poor", is illogical.

[TrenchantAtheist]

Furthermore, I'd really like it if someone on this green earth could, for fuck's sake, explain how continuing the American %-based tax system (and merely adjusting rates within the ranges of what every other president in American history has done...) ... is somehow "socialism"

It was democracy yesterday, red state today. What gives? Can you not just admit you agree with McCain's main political policy: "Hey, I'm not racist, but did I mention he's BLACK??"

[NoGuff]

"Can you not just admit you agree with McCain's main political policy: "Hey, I'm not racist, but did I mention he's BLACK??""

--I never heard that one. Can you provide a link where I can find it?

[cawoodso]

that is a trully intellegent comment, it scares all of us who are educated enough to use socially respectable words that you are going to vote; perhaps distroy the American Dream. Maybe one should think for themselves and employ the rights we are currently provided rather than act as a parrot.

[acardon]

FUCK Joe the plumber and everyone who looks like Joe the plumber! He's just a lying sack of shit like all the other people in the news supporting Mccain...

[Kxnny47s]

First of all mccain is the one that made him famous so dont blaim that on obama.....

[sunbeansnflowersluv]

watch?v=hzgvqvNBEps

Satanists for Obama

[stevekap8]

hmmm, just listen to Biden and Obama, now,,, how exactly was that an attack on Joe....

What a joke, Lou Dobbs should just give it up.

[stevekap8]

Joe the $250,000 plumber. Lets all stand behind him....

[DoubleHelixStrand]

This is dumb.

[DicksSweetCarolyn]

mccain is facsinated by plumbing and plumbers. Must have been all those butt cracks he has been looking at - right shorty?

[channing68]

Who cares about Joe, his worries are irrelevant because he IS in the tax that will benefit the most from Obama's tax plan. Ok, this ACORN bullshit is tired. ACORN is required by law to turn in every registration. Last time I checked, registrations don't count as votes. Also, you will need valid ID to vote. So all this talk about voter fraud is B.S. It can only happen if someone working for the Board of Elections lets it happen.

[RealismOfLife]

joe suck dick damn faggit

[OBMP08]

you always back a winner.. if your trying to this money will buy him then why is he reforming bank loans to students (making the banks loose billions)? i think you need to try and get a little more educated instead of throwing random comments like foolish when you clearly have nfid what your talking about!

[whathitthefan]

A correction. Citigroup is controlled by a Saudi (muslim) billionaire under his investment arm Kingdom Holdings.

Obama has not accounted for most of his larger donations, 75 % of all money is large summs. A lot of saudi oil (muslim) money is going to Obama, how much is it? Obama won't say.

[OBMP08]

GoldmanSachs i suggest you look at McCain's donations because you will see they also donated to him too.. your an idiot!

[OBMP08]

Joe lied, hes name isnt Joe, and he is an unqualified Plumber who has no chance of buying the business.. its ridiculous Joe isnt being made an example of?

[bade34]

Why does McCain go to muslim country to adopt bridget mccain? Why does cindy mccain boast of charitable work in muslim countries like bosnia and kosovo? In these aweful financial times why does mccain want freetrade with colombia, is it because of his relationship to gordon liddy colombian terrorist? Does Palin pal around with alaskan terrorist separatist Vogler and AIP? These questions cannot be answered by mailing muslim hate dvds like 'obsession' to homes and churches in swing states.

[black9prince]

Watch the whole video of Joe approching Obama.

[clash360]

good vid