If you can get any item you want on b, couldn't you NG+ light arrows on b, and, since ganon's tower can be entered without the medallions, go straight there?
and also, we really don't require the medallions for the bridge anymore since kazooie got us in the castle early
also, i've been meaning to upload a video on how to clip into the canyon mountains around gannons castle too, let's you megaflip right onto the entrance
@CloudMNintendo ahaa i misread the description. does the bridge appear if the shadow and light medallions are in your inventory or does that only work for all of them?
Atleast you won't get the lighting glitch. If you have the older 64 version, lighting can make your n64 mess up, and it gives you everything. Lolz. And then when you restart it goes back to its original spot. trololololo, is what the n64 said. XDDDD
Can you save the game as child link with the Bottle on B, or will that mess things up? If you can't, that means you have to beat the first three dungeons, plus do everything you did in the video without saving once. Sorry for the noob question.
@USSRlolcatus Not really. The bow could be skipped if we RBA arrows during the battle. It IS possible...
Getting bow requires you to get hookshot, go to forest temple, get 3 keys and make your way to the bow itself.
RBA during ganondorf battle requires you to not equip kokiri sword (which means no KZ skip), get Milk Bottle from Malon, perform Lon Lon Stick, and then a slow battle against ganondorf.
There is also many other small things. It is hard to tell which one is faster, and by how much.
@CloudMNintendo That's quite interesting. on the way up ganons castle you have to kill a few enemies including stalfos.... im not sure if there is some contrived way to kill them fairly quickly with something obscure like deku nuts and chus. then i suppose the ganon fight would be quite annoying... explsosives till the last cycle then swtich to biggorons. i guess that makes sence but im not sure how much time that would save. getting bombchus nd slower fights. there are chus in spirit trial
Yay for Skipping (some) temples as I've already done Forest Temple. Anyway: I got the mushroom as Young Link, and then went ToT to change to adult link. Warped to LH > Fishing Pond to get bottle on B. Caught bug in bottle (on B) with mushroom on II and I got: Water,Spirit,Shadow medallion. It also deleted Bolero of Fire and Minuet of Forest.
@GuardianLinx An NG+ file is that name I gave to the save files created using my "NewGame Plus" glitch.
This is a glitch which allows you to start a new file with almost any item on the B button, it is very useful glitch, as it is the key to get light arrow without even getting the bow itself!
RBA is the most powerful glitch that has ever been found in Ocarina of Time.
It is this glitch that manipulates the game to give you the medallions.
Oh Theres one thing I randomly incounterd 2 days ago when I got the game. I had the adult wallet and I did not finshes the happy mask side quest So the glitch starts whhen I had the skull mask I went to the skull kid (before the deku stick upgrade) And for somereson He filled my wallet full .-. I dont know how it happed But It was funny to see that even a lost kid can be loaded
Its quite hard to do Becuse you need to do the glitch again but you need to have it save on the same time you save on your outher save file .-. or something I cant rember much
.-. Well I did get the master sword obn b as youing link I save the quit I went to the file Iwhere I did the glicth You get what item, you want on b I had to do it fast And the outher file change I had bombs on b
Hmm But Theres somethin that relly confsues me If you can get the ocarina on b should't that mean you can all so get outher unquipabule items as well .-l.
@dicethehegehog So, you do not know how BA works? Well, it is actually REALLY simple. Use the item chart over at zeldaspeedruns on the page /oot/ba/item-chart If you want to get Boomerang on B you need the value 14. So you place a bottle on II that contains lets say bugs. Bugs links to the arrow count. So what you do is you get 14 arrows. Get bottle on B Turn into child link Place bottled Bugs in II. Turn into adult link. This will place item 14 (boomerang) on B.
Theres one thinfg I really want to ask you. Iif you can start a game with any item on the B button. Then cant you test if you can get the ocarina of time on B. I want to know and see what happeds or better yet how to get the boomarang or the gontlets. That would be quite useful to use
@dicethehegehog You can start with ocarina on B. I think it was the second item I tested.
You can not get gauntlets on B as it isn't an item, it is a "gear".
I do not see how starting with Boomerang on B would help, but it is entierly possible.
You just BA boomerang onto your B button, exit the game while riding on a horse, or while you are fishing, and then create a new save file. Same process as starting with a bottle on B, except that you do BA.
Around 3:20 you were tapping the Odd Mushroom in the menu for a bit. Did that trigger the sun coming up? I did see that it was close to a sun rise. Though it went a little faster more like instant you fiddled with that mushroom that it went morning already. Or nothing really happened cuz it just got day already? =)
did I understand correctly? you have 1 arrow because you dont have the quiver. when you shoot the arrow you have no arrows obviously. if you get an arrow of a jar do you have 1 arrow again? if thats the case there are probably some jars around in the boss room of ganondorf . that would solve the problem not being able to one cycle him with master sword.
@Twant1988 You can not get any arrow drops as we do not have a quiver.
We get 1 arrow because we RBA arrows (You get 29 arrows if you catch bugs in your B bottle), but when you use an arrow, the game checks for your quiver, and instantly sets it to 0, because that is your maximum capacity.
@CloudMNintendo Can't you use the RBA on Cojiro to get a glitched quiver like on the N64 version? It's not really out of your way. Also, has anyone found a way to bypass the door of time on this version? How about getting out of bounds with triple slash clipping?
@Glitcher2000 We can not RBA quiver anymore. They moved the items around, and it appears that RBA for quiver is out of our boundaries. We can not reach it.
And the door of time is MUCH bigger than on n64. It continues inside the walls. So just bypassing it woul require hovering around it, which we cant.
Maybe one day.. but I do not think it is possible. the game is already insanely fast thanks to this.
@TriforceBrawl3250 Indeed. We need a way to keep our sword while fighting ganon.
By using Din's Fire, we're able to keep the master sword during the battle again ganon.
HOWEVER, What I need someone to confirm is if this is possible with Farore's Wind.
Yes, it requires the use of Restricted Items, and it would be insanely hard to pull off, but in a segmented run this could help us save time, as this would be better to get than din's fire.
A SS/RTA run would probably still use din's fire though.
@4203105 Nah. It is just that maybe it would be faster to simply keep MS. I have no idea what the time difference is. Bombs may very well be faster when I think about it..
How the hell did you go to some thing fortress as a kid. You are not far in the game. You forget to get the hiro shield
monkeyhawk2000 3 days ago
@monkeyhawk2000 I did not forget anything. It is optional.
And to reach gerudos fortress as a child you have to perform a glitch to get past the gate at the bridge. I have a link in the description.
CloudMNintendo 2 days ago
lol links like FOGET ALL THAT CRAP im going to kill him right here right now xD and when he leaves zelda sure did a good job of hideing huh xD
hullfcaregreat 1 month ago
wtf!!!!
LuigiMolaSaco 1 month ago
they changed the bridge to ganons castle because dipshits fell off the one in n64
cfalcon513 2 months ago 3
@cfalcon513 Most likely because they didn't think that it looked good enough for todays standards. But it doesn't really matter.
CloudMNintendo 2 months ago
Like the N64 can you RBA to get child stones? I don't want to go through all child temples on my run :D
TomNook120 3 months ago
@TomNook120 Uhm, no you can't. You can't do that on N64 either from what I remember.
On N64 you just do DoT skip.
You can't RBA the spiritual stones as a child.
CloudMNintendo 3 months ago
I've always thought it was Ironic how catching "bugs in a bottle" has always been the method of skipping the game.
mow123 3 months ago
Fucking legendary game. <3
maddy1111ful 3 months ago
or n64?...I'm sorry to have posted 3 comments, I accidentally clicked "post" on that last one before I was done typing.
piepusher11 3 months ago
Also, at this point, which is considered more "broken", 3ds
piepusher11 3 months ago
If you can get any item you want on b, couldn't you NG+ light arrows on b, and, since ganon's tower can be entered without the medallions, go straight there?
piepusher11 3 months ago
but wat about items
lozplyr89 4 months ago
@lozplyr89 I explain everything in the description. :p You need almost no items to complete the game.
CloudMNintendo 4 months ago
OH and you dont need the biggorons sword, use the superslide glitch that allowes you to keep wait... you cant superslide...
zeldazoneman 5 months ago
@zeldazoneman That is not even the reason.
We can keep master sword.
We need giant's knife so that we can one cycle ganondorf, because we only have 1 arrow.
CloudMNintendo 4 months ago
how do you RBA bugs?
zeldazoneman 5 months ago
Lol we can one cycle gannon now XD
and also, we really don't require the medallions for the bridge anymore since kazooie got us in the castle early
also, i've been meaning to upload a video on how to clip into the canyon mountains around gannons castle too, let's you megaflip right onto the entrance
i should get to that...
TomNook120 5 months ago
@TomNook120 We need medallions for light arrow.
That will always be required. Skipping light arrow entierly (which means skipping medallions) wont ever be possible. :p
CloudMNintendo 5 months ago
@CloudMNintendo ahaa i misread the description. does the bridge appear if the shadow and light medallions are in your inventory or does that only work for all of them?
TomNook120 5 months ago
@TomNook120 the bridge appears if you have the spirit and shadow medallion. Those are the only two you need.
The same goes for light arrows.
CloudMNintendo 5 months ago
How do you get through gannons castle without some of the items
lol you cant
aplug42 6 months ago
@aplug42 You can skip all the trials using different glitches. So yes you can. :P
Skip using megaflip: /watch?v=Dl_qCqv2Mk0
Skip using megaflip + damageboost: /watch?v=M68ryXAdO1c
Skip using hoverboost: /watch?v=NWaOxX74oG8
Skip using hammerslide: /watch?v=Dy8UrjxXKjc
Skip using freezard clip: /watch?v=DD-F1Kgtowk
So you can skip it in many different ways, you can do it with just bombs and shield if you want (that is how we do it in speedruns)
CloudMNintendo 6 months ago
Atleast you won't get the lighting glitch. If you have the older 64 version, lighting can make your n64 mess up, and it gives you everything. Lolz. And then when you restart it goes back to its original spot. trololololo, is what the n64 said. XDDDD
Madaer321 6 months ago
Can you save the game as child link with the Bottle on B, or will that mess things up? If you can't, that means you have to beat the first three dungeons, plus do everything you did in the video without saving once. Sorry for the noob question.
ZacharyKrodel 6 months ago
@ZacharyKrodel You may save the game with bottle on B if you have the fishing rod. So simple go to the fishing pond to save your game.
Dying is not really a problem at all.
But saving is a problem, as it pretty much prevents us from making segmented newgame+ runs. =(
CloudMNintendo 6 months ago
any single cycle kills on ganondorf yet?
USSRlolcatus 6 months ago
@USSRlolcatus Nope, we believe that it is impossible.
People that is decent with single cycle on n64 can't even do it with giants knife on 3ds.
CloudMNintendo 6 months ago
@CloudMNintendo Really? i got awfully close.. with the master sword at that. second cycle was only three quick spins, the rest were in the first.
USSRlolcatus 6 months ago
@USSRlolcatus That is the thing "awfully close".
I can safely say that I've been 1 attack away from 1 cycle atleast 15 times.
And this is why we believe that it isn't possible.
I get the feeling that ganondorf automatically get up after a while.
CloudMNintendo 6 months ago
@CloudMNintendo O_O wow i guess were gunna have to make the bow a regular thing in this one... w/e thats not too bad only about 10-15minuts
USSRlolcatus 6 months ago
@USSRlolcatus Not really. The bow could be skipped if we RBA arrows during the battle. It IS possible...
Getting bow requires you to get hookshot, go to forest temple, get 3 keys and make your way to the bow itself.
RBA during ganondorf battle requires you to not equip kokiri sword (which means no KZ skip), get Milk Bottle from Malon, perform Lon Lon Stick, and then a slow battle against ganondorf.
There is also many other small things. It is hard to tell which one is faster, and by how much.
CloudMNintendo 6 months ago
@CloudMNintendo That's quite interesting. on the way up ganons castle you have to kill a few enemies including stalfos.... im not sure if there is some contrived way to kill them fairly quickly with something obscure like deku nuts and chus. then i suppose the ganon fight would be quite annoying... explsosives till the last cycle then swtich to biggorons. i guess that makes sence but im not sure how much time that would save. getting bombchus nd slower fights. there are chus in spirit trial
USSRlolcatus 6 months ago
@USSRlolcatus We do not need chus or biggorons.
We just use deku sticks on B to make our way to ganondorf.
When we run out of sticks, we just get bottle on B, RBA new deku sticks, and save the game.
Saving the game results in the bottle reverting into a deku stick.
So you just repeat the process..
Though, while writing this, I just found an issue.
Saving to revert bottle into a deku stick does not work with the lon lon stick method of getting deku stick on B... So my entire theory is ruined.
CloudMNintendo 6 months ago
will this work on master quest also
donkeyykong 7 months ago
@donkeyykong I did mine on MQ. It worked.
PhylJ92 7 months ago
@PhylJ92 thanks.
donkeyykong 7 months ago
Yay for Skipping (some) temples as I've already done Forest Temple. Anyway: I got the mushroom as Young Link, and then went ToT to change to adult link. Warped to LH > Fishing Pond to get bottle on B. Caught bug in bottle (on B) with mushroom on II and I got: Water,Spirit,Shadow medallion. It also deleted Bolero of Fire and Minuet of Forest.
PhylJ92 7 months ago
Quick question what's an NG+ File and RBA?
GuardianLinx 7 months ago
@GuardianLinx An NG+ file is that name I gave to the save files created using my "NewGame Plus" glitch.
This is a glitch which allows you to start a new file with almost any item on the B button, it is very useful glitch, as it is the key to get light arrow without even getting the bow itself!
RBA is the most powerful glitch that has ever been found in Ocarina of Time.
It is this glitch that manipulates the game to give you the medallions.
I'll add a link at the bottom of the description.
CloudMNintendo 7 months ago
@CloudMNintendo
I went to the link, read everything and, was left with only one thing to say, DUDE THIS IS EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GuardianLinx 7 months ago
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TheMebejennette 7 months ago
Is the 37th piece of heart still there?
ilazul 7 months ago
@ilazul Yes it is, but we can't reach it due to the wall that is blocking the path (you normally hookshot over it)
CloudMNintendo 7 months ago
fun fact: this set up lets you get all the medallions using RBA. that was impossible on the 64 version.
PiccoloCube 7 months ago
@PiccoloCube Yeah, I know. It is funny how it is possible to keep the light medallion doing this :)
CloudMNintendo 7 months ago
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nintendoworldh 7 months ago
Dude. That's cool.
Nyktotheras 7 months ago
Oh Theres one thing I randomly incounterd 2 days ago when I got the game. I had the adult wallet and I did not finshes the happy mask side quest So the glitch starts whhen I had the skull mask I went to the skull kid (before the deku stick upgrade) And for somereson He filled my wallet full .-. I dont know how it happed But It was funny to see that even a lost kid can be loaded
dicethehegehog 7 months ago
Its quite hard to do Becuse you need to do the glitch again but you need to have it save on the same time you save on your outher save file .-. or something I cant rember much
dicethehegehog 7 months ago
.-. Well I did get the master sword obn b as youing link I save the quit I went to the file Iwhere I did the glicth You get what item, you want on b I had to do it fast And the outher file change I had bombs on b
dicethehegehog 7 months ago
Hmm But Theres somethin that relly confsues me If you can get the ocarina on b should't that mean you can all so get outher unquipabule items as well .-l.
dicethehegehog 7 months ago
@dicethehegehog uhm.. yes..? We can get all items on the B button.
How would that help us in any way at all? We only get to choose 1 item if we start a new file with an item on B.
and to do this as adult you have to beat forest temple + get bottle on B.
CloudMNintendo 7 months ago
I under stand but I dont know how to get the boomarangf on b of the ocarina I only done the glitch with bombs teh hookshot and bottle.
dicethehegehog 7 months ago
CloudMNintendo 7 months ago
Theres one thinfg I really want to ask you. Iif you can start a game with any item on the B button. Then cant you test if you can get the ocarina of time on B. I want to know and see what happeds or better yet how to get the boomarang or the gontlets. That would be quite useful to use
dicethehegehog 7 months ago
@dicethehegehog You can start with ocarina on B. I think it was the second item I tested.
You can not get gauntlets on B as it isn't an item, it is a "gear".
I do not see how starting with Boomerang on B would help, but it is entierly possible.
You just BA boomerang onto your B button, exit the game while riding on a horse, or while you are fishing, and then create a new save file. Same process as starting with a bottle on B, except that you do BA.
CloudMNintendo 7 months ago
Around 3:20 you were tapping the Odd Mushroom in the menu for a bit. Did that trigger the sun coming up? I did see that it was close to a sun rise. Though it went a little faster more like instant you fiddled with that mushroom that it went morning already. Or nothing really happened cuz it just got day already? =)
wrathfeeling 7 months ago
@wrathfeeling I just mashed it to show that it got disabled. As soon as I leave the area, I cant use the mushroom.
CloudMNintendo 7 months ago
ganons keep is the only thing u have to do as adult now O_o
Kosmicd12 7 months ago
LOVE THIS :D
larcerkev 7 months ago
best route ever! i love the sheik cs skip!
MajoraMIM 7 months ago
did I understand correctly? you have 1 arrow because you dont have the quiver. when you shoot the arrow you have no arrows obviously. if you get an arrow of a jar do you have 1 arrow again? if thats the case there are probably some jars around in the boss room of ganondorf . that would solve the problem not being able to one cycle him with master sword.
Twant1988 7 months ago
@Twant1988 You can not get any arrow drops as we do not have a quiver.
We get 1 arrow because we RBA arrows (You get 29 arrows if you catch bugs in your B bottle), but when you use an arrow, the game checks for your quiver, and instantly sets it to 0, because that is your maximum capacity.
CloudMNintendo 7 months ago
@CloudMNintendo you probably have to get giants knife then
Twant1988 7 months ago
@CloudMNintendo Can't you use the RBA on Cojiro to get a glitched quiver like on the N64 version? It's not really out of your way. Also, has anyone found a way to bypass the door of time on this version? How about getting out of bounds with triple slash clipping?
Glitcher2000 7 months ago
@Glitcher2000 We can not RBA quiver anymore. They moved the items around, and it appears that RBA for quiver is out of our boundaries. We can not reach it.
And the door of time is MUCH bigger than on n64. It continues inside the walls. So just bypassing it woul require hovering around it, which we cant.
Maybe one day.. but I do not think it is possible. the game is already insanely fast thanks to this.
CloudMNintendo 7 months ago
aww yeaaah
Glitches0and0stuff 7 months ago
since we can skip so much as adult, can't you get Din's Fire as a child to skip getting Giant's Knife?
TriforceBrawl3250 7 months ago
@TriforceBrawl3250 Why the hell would you get the GIant's Knife?
mzxrules 7 months ago
@mzxrules As of before, to get Master Sword back on B and also to beat Ganon.
TriforceBrawl3250 7 months ago
@TriforceBrawl3250 Indeed. We need a way to keep our sword while fighting ganon.
By using Din's Fire, we're able to keep the master sword during the battle again ganon.
HOWEVER, What I need someone to confirm is if this is possible with Farore's Wind.
Yes, it requires the use of Restricted Items, and it would be insanely hard to pull off, but in a segmented run this could help us save time, as this would be better to get than din's fire.
A SS/RTA run would probably still use din's fire though.
CloudMNintendo 7 months ago
@CloudMNintendo
I would suggest just bombing ganons ass. Or is there the problem with reequipping the sword, too?
4203105 7 months ago
@4203105 Nah. It is just that maybe it would be faster to simply keep MS. I have no idea what the time difference is. Bombs may very well be faster when I think about it..
CloudMNintendo 7 months ago
Your mother
mzxrules 7 months ago