Israeli Dep Foreign Min Danny Ayalon on Palestinian refusal for peace

[222steiny]

antisemistic people digust me

[GustavoCLa]

@222steiny Opressors playing the victim disgust me.

[GustavoCLa]

Let's say who say NO:

NO to a Palestinian state in 100% of the West Bank

NO to East Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital

NO to halting settlements

NO to following UN resolutions

NO to the Arab Peace Initiative

NO to the right of return

Say NO to the jewish state.

[Tazz1287]

LIARS!



[BetoBioPira]

Que lixo esse vídeo racista, tendencioso e mentiroso.

What rubbish this video racist, biased and untrue. Israel is a terrorist state, which impose a dictatorship on the Palestinians. Israel also said NO to the peace agreements. Even killed their own leader. Israel is one of the most racist societies today. Continues killing hundreds of innocent civilians and violating the freedoms of all Palestinians.

[sonadoalaikor]

@BetoBioPira Pois é, foi o mesmo que me passou na cabeça, mas por eu ser alguem ligado as ciências humanas é parte de meu dever ético me expressar de forma politizada Xo

[sonadoalaikor]

Pois é, pensei o msm q vc, porem eu tentei ser mais didatico que é para ver se alguem enfia na cuca essa merda toda ;D

[sonadoalaikor]

We are historians who have studied this conflict, we try to be neutral, that is not what happened. It is biased in favor of video advertising.

There are people on both sides committed to peace, but a lot of fanatics on both sides, which is the real problem.

[nivavw]

@sonadoalaikor as historians you are surely aware that general banalities are not a methodical form of arguing any point. Can you point at a particular fact that is historically incorrect?

[sonadoalaikor]

@nivavw To begin with, because the term is no longer used in the story, but being more specific, both sides have had diplomatic process stressful, both sides refused to talk for long periods of time.

The very purpose behind the proposal is wrong, because in sub language that denotes there is a villain as if one side had never wrong.

[GustavoCLa]

@nivavw Lol, indeed no part of the video is a lie. But the video is ridiculous because of its omissions. It's possible to make a positive video about the Nazis without lies, only with omissions "The nazis were democratically ellected, the nazis revitalized German morale and economy, the Nazis "united" Europe...". For example the video mentions a Arab League resolution from 1967 but fails to mention one from 2002 offering peace. Pathetic.

[nivavw]

@GustavoCLa The "Peace" Arabs offer Israel is a one way ticket to its destruction. I am sure you recognize it too since it is just too obvious.

[GustavoCLa]

@nivavw No.

[GustavoCLa]

@nivavw Another imporant omission (among many others): he suggests that before the 1967 war there was no issue between Israel and the Arabs... when there were hundreds of thousands of refugees desiring to return home.

[nivavw]

@GustavoCLa On the contrary!!! You have misunderstood: He is saying that the settlements int he Jehuda and Sameria is not the "cause" of the conflict since the conflict EXISTED BEFORE there was a single settlement there.

[GustavoCLa]

@nivavw Of course the settlements are not the cause. They are just the ultimate proof that Israel is not serious about peace.

[nivavw]

@GustavoCLa First of all you are not staying on truck but jumping from one argument to another. Now that you have admitted that the settlements are not the cause of the conflict, let's move to your next axiom - "Ultimate proof"? Really?! somehow I think that it is universally agreed that rockets and bombs are more of a declaration of war and a proof for one's NOT peaceful intention than agriculture and high tech settlements.

[GustavoCLa]

@nivavw I think an occupation for 44 years is more of a declaration of and a proof for one's not peaceful intention. Hamas is not a representant of the Palestinian people. The settlement would be peaceful intentions if they were open for all. Now all they do is that they confiscate Arab land and cut the West Bank in a series of Arab clusters not connected with each other.

[nivavw]

@GustavoCLa If Arabs had peaceful intention they would open their villages and their countries to Jews and Christians. Can you mention one church in Saudi Arabia? Iran? How about a public sermon by a priest or a Rabbi in any of the Muslim countries? Do you know what the Arabs do to a Jew if he rents an apartment in an Arabic village or even just a predominantly Arab neighborhood?

Talk about "peace"...

[GustavoCLa]

@nivavw I'm talking about Israel here, not Saudi Arabia. There are plenty of churches in the Middle East, including in Iran, sinagogues in Iran too, not in Saudi Arabia. I'm not talking about freedom of religion here, I'm talking about an occupation of a foreing country, and the only case in the Middle East is in Palestine, occupied by Israel. Saudi Arabia has no freedom of religion but no one forces jews to go to Saudi Arabia. Palestinian are beeing oppresed in their own land.

[nivavw]

@GustavoCLa There is no "Palestinians". It is a name that was given to the land of Israel by the British Mandate. My grandmother who was born here had a "Palestinian" passport and so did my grandfather and 600,000 Arabs immigrated into the Land of Israel after the collapse of Ottoman Empire.

only one land in the middle east is NOT under an "occupation" - and that is the Land of Israel. Jordan (Trans Jordan) is usurped, so is every other of the recently invented states in the middle east...

[nivavw]

@GustavoCLa And it is not the Jews that occupy Arab land. It is Arabs that occupy Jewish land.

[sonadoalaikor]

@nivavw Can I get the point of these discussions at no time had contact with the Palestinian leadership. Trying to impose conditions of oppression of a people is no different from Hitler's actions ...

[sonadoalaikor]

نحن المؤرخين الذين درسوا هذا الصراع ، ونحن نحاول أن تكون محايدة ، وليس هذا ما حدث. غير منحازة لهذا الفيديو الدعائي.

هناك أناس على كلا الجانبين ملتزم بالسلام ، ولكن الكثير من المتعصبين على كلا الجانبين ، والتي هي المشكلة الحقيقية.

[sonadoalaikor]

Nós historiadores estudamos esse conflito, tentamos ser neutros, não foi assim que ocorreu. Esse vídeo é tendencioso e propagandista.

Há pessoas nos dois lados que são comprometidas com a paz, porem muitos fanáticos de ambos os lados, sendo esse o problema real.

אנו היסטוריונים שחקרו את הסכסוך הזה, אנחנו מנסים להיות נייטרלי, זה לא מה שקרה. סרט הווידאו הזה הוא מוטה תועמלן.

יש אנשים משני הצדדים מחויבים לשלום, אבל קנאים רבים משני הצדדים, המהווה את הבעיה האמיתית.

[mgk11111]

The Palestinians/Arabs always said YES!...

To the destruction of the Jewish State.

[UmmahYehudiTzion]

asshole "post zionist" leftist pigs need to get a grip

[MrYalicohen]

THIS VIDEO IS THE TRUTH AND THE REALITY!

[MrYalicohen]

מצויין! עלו והצליחו. להפיץ את האמת! ישר כח! חזק וברוך