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  • Oh, I'll have to see this just because of Billy Boyd! ♥

  • There is a new novel out about the Stone of Destiny. It has a ton of information regarding the stone's history. It even guesses where the real stone might be today.

    You can get it for a Kindle, nook or ipad for $2.99.

    The main site is StoneOfDestiny(dot)com.

  • GREAT movie.

    As the retrieval of the Scotts stolen stone was taking place I was nervous myself. Dreading the appearance of the police or Abbey's security.

    Braveheart of modern times so to say.

  • Alba Gu Brath! Also I just realized that the theme song playing at the end is "to the battle" by "the real mckenzies" I love that band!

  • Charlie is so cute <3

  • listen everybody here me great great uncle is matthew sommerville who is the guy who was the leader who stole it back

  • ALBA GU BRATH

  • as long as 100 of us remain alive we shall not surrender to the domination of the english. we fight not for glory, not for wealth nor honours but only and alone for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life

  • This film is exactly what's wrong with the film industry here in Scotland! Crap script, bad acting (what a waste of Robert Carlyle and Peter Mullan), bad direction (this is no more than a tv movie and, please use Scotland for scenic shots instead of Canada and London INSTEAD of Glasgow University quadrangle) and most of all, try at least to find decent leads who are FROM SCOTLAND. Is that so hard to do?

  • My uncle produced this

  • @CrazyDrums45 Show-off ;DD

  • @Ghanjamon Shut your dumb Yank arse up and concentrate on your own nation, a nation revelling in it's own stupidity and corruption as we speak, namely America.

    Keep your Yank nose out of other peoples nations affairs.

  • Robert Carlyle and Billy Boyd <3

  • You know the reason we Americans are so damn proud to be American is because we have Scottish blood in us. As proud as I am to be American, I'm just as proud to have that fighting blood in me. Go Scotland!

  • @rosey4exclaim You're not Scottish, you're American, the blood is a myth perpetrated by typical Yank intellectual stupidity.

  • @segano1 You're quite the bigot, aren't you?

    By your logic, if you were born anywhere else (despite your ancestry being strictly Scottish) then that means you aren't Scottish at all, you have no Scottish blood and you're intellectually stupid? (Not sure what the need to classify the stupidity as that of an intellectual variety, but whatever.)

  • @MastaKadaj Of course not, if someone was born and bred Scottish their whole life, has a Scottish birth certificate, and was conditioned Scottish, and cultured Scottish but had a grandparent from elsewhere like in Europe extending as far as Indian say then that person is not Scottish to your logic? Who's the real bigot here? I've got a couple of friends from Scotland who have a link else where yet you'd say they arent as Scottish than some Yankee or Canuck who has nothing to do with Scotland?

  • @segano1 Your first comment makes no sense. I never once said that it would make someone not American if they had ancestors from Scotland, I was only asking you how someone who has had Scottish ancestry can not have any Scottish blood. (Same goes for everyone, really. No matter how diluted it is.) Not sure where you're getting me saying that people from Scotland aren't more Scottish than an American or Canadian. That's just illiteracy on you part.

  • @MastaKadaj How does having one grand parent or a far distant great great great great great grandparent make you something that you yourself are not? I take it you probably believe the 'Out of Africa' theory? so by Yankee/Canuck logic, why not use that logic and call yourself African?

    Most Yanks are mixed and with each and every generation it gets more so, especially in Canada, the most mixed country on the planet, with the US not far behind.

    Inherent stupidity is not defined by blood.

  • @segano1 I never once said that it makes you, personally not an America/Canadian/Anywhere else. I was criticising you because you attacked someone for having respect for their heritage. (Notice, nowhere did he say that he, specifically was Scottish. You can't read, can you?)

    I'm an American, but I respect and acknowledge my English/Irish roots. I don't consider myself English or Irish, but I recognise that I have that blood in me.

  • @MastaKadaj I see you've cleverly avoided the question, may of the Yanks or Canucks I've heard shockingly believe themselves to be more Scottish than those that are actually native to Scotland, so how does that work? I'm trying to see how having a certain blood pattern determines you to be something specifically from a certain geographical piece of land, can you answer that?

    How does having a specific blood pattern transfer culture, ideals and knowledge etc?

  • @segano1 Also you said "may of the Yanks or Canucks I've heard shockingly believe themselves to be more Scottish than those that are actually native to Scotland, so how does that work?" I have seen some Yanks who are 5% irish claim they are just as equal Irish as they are to People born IN ireland. Nae i just consider myself a half scot :P

  • @MastaKadaj You have English and Irish roots as well, yet you claim to have Scottish blood, that's a bit selective no? You want to take precedence of Scottish over Irish or English roots, yet you told me in your first comment and I quote... "if you were born anywhere else (despite your ancestry being strictly Scottish)""

    So why are you now saying in your second comment that you have English and Irish roots now too?

    That's doesn't set well with your first comment does it?

  • @segano1 I never once said I have Scottish blood. As far as I know, I have no Scottish blood whatsoever. My first comment was filled with hypotheticals, I wasn't stating I was Scottish or had Scottish ancestry. I was mostly referring to the bloke you responded to.

    If an American or Candian is saying that they ARE Scottish, then I agree with you they're wrong. But they can certainly FEEL that Scottish pride in them. Perhaps I was not so clear.

  • @segano1 Well...they can feel the Scottish pride in them assuming their heritage actually is Scottish. xD

    "I'm trying to see how having a certain blood pattern determines you to be something specifically from a certain geographical piece of land, can you answer that?"

    I never said that. I said they can be proud of their heritage, something you were trying to say they couldn't be.

  • @segano1 There is no such thing as inherent stupidity. I only brought that up because of your comment about "Yank intellectual stupidity." Mostly because your remark on that made no sense. There are plenty of other countries who acknowledge their roots, but you don't refer to their stupidity, do you? You default to Americans because you're a bigot. (A good example of people acknowledging their roots is the band Orthodox Celts. Serbians who play Celtic music because of their heritage.)

  • @MastaKadaj *Also note I use the name/words of 'Yanks' and 'Canucks' as a shortened down version of American or Canadian to save space, not in a derogatory way, if that's why you claimed it was 'bigoted'.

  • @segano1

    I want the Stone of destiny. Imagine this. A human being rises on the world stage, the richest and most powerful leader.

    In this right, I would purchase the Stone of Destiny and weild its power.

    I'm not Scottish, but I am a victim of Scottish tyranny.

    My last wish is to have this stone under my throne to compensate for the wrongs committed against me.

    I would be immortal, all powerful!

  • @segano1 I am a "yank" but i am soon throwing off my Yankee title. In 4 short years i move tae scotland, i am joining the military after college. I play the bagpipes and wear my familys kilt :) I am 50% scottish 12.5 Irish 12.5 German and 12.5 Italian. Alba Gu Brath!

  • kerin kelly the 17 year old is ma cuzzin inthis movie lol

    it ture though

  • I love this movie!

  • Great movie.

  • Well people can't just enjoy a fun movie any more. Why does this film strike up the foil stench of hatred. You have lived together on a small island. For more then a thousand years. The people's battles you are fighting for have been dead for so long. They have could have lived a hundred life's dying each time at the age of 100. Let the past rest in peace. Move on when American's invented the internet it wasn't intended to be a bull horn for hatred. I'm of Irish decent but hold no ill will.

  • @BaldEagle841 First off, America did not invent the internet, in fact quite a lot of Yanks/Canucks claim to have invented things they didn't, they hardly invented or discovered anything, all their short legacy really consists of is ignorance, stupidity, wars and foreign occupation.

    Secondly, it's none of your business to be talking about the lives of Scots who've fought off conquests and invasions time and time again to protect their land.

    Thirdly, You are American, not Irish, and not Scottish.

  • Hey, I'm an American, too. I think that this guy's wrong because the whole point of the movie was Scottish spirit, and their independance. Obviously, that involves politics.

  • Hey, Im American. I say take anything you see on TV or in the movies at strictly entertainment value and fuck the politics.

  • Scotland and Ireland always interested me more then England, no offense to England! I am not Anti-England, but I feel a particular drawing to those two countries.

  • is this a good movie? I know people say its silly or childish or cheasy but I'll decide that for myself, thank you. Come on, all you Scottish people, tell me, is it worth seeing? Cause it looks interesting.

  • @AmericanHistoryLover I'm only Canadian and I thought the movie was actually pretty good, but maybe because I'm in love with the entire British thing. Personally, I don't think the trailer is a good reflection of the movie. Just rent if you don't want to buy. Also, it's a true story, so...

  • @UponInfinity well, I live in America, as you might see, and this movie is hard to come buy, otherwise i wouldn't be asking if it was good, I'd rent it and see for myself. I did just buy it though, for a cheap price. Thanks for your opinion, I think I'll like it. Scotland interests me.

  • @rexhunter1 GET A FREAKING LIFE YOU MORON!!!!! THIS IS THE VERY SYMBOL OF OPPRESSION FROM THE ENGLISH!!! SCOTLAND FOREVER! VOTE THIS UP IF YOU AGREE THAT SCOTLAND SHOULD BE A NATION ONCE MORE. AND FOREVERMORE! WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT THE ENGLISH LACK! WE HAVE SPIRIT! WE HAVE THE SPIRIT OF SCOTS OF OLD LIVING IN US NOW! WE ARE UNIQUE IN THE FACT THE WE HAVE A FIRE IN OUR BREASTS! WE HAVE LABOURED UNDER ENGLISH RULE FOR TOO LONG! REMEMBER THIS, THAT WE, NO MATTER WHAT, ARE THE SCOTS! SCOTLAND!

  • @Calza321 The Scottish economy runs at a huge deficit that is only maintainable due to being heavily subsidised by England. Laboured under English rule? I think not!

  • @Calza321 The Scottish economy runs at a huge deficit that is only maintainable due to being heavily subsidised by England. Laboured under English rule? I think not!

  • @dsj1979 exactly, this is why you shouldn't let children play with the internet:)

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  • @Calza321 funny that they had to ask an Englishman to play the lead part then?

  • @Calza321 Under English rule? So Gordon Brown was English? Tony Blair and Alastair Darling didn't grow up in Scotland? I'm guessing King James wasn't scottish either? We englishmen have no spirit? Then why do we have the most loyal sports fans in the world who follow our teams everywhere? Scottish racsim, bigotry, Brainwashing and propaganda at it's best. Do you even know what an Englishman is? read a real history book.

  • @Calza321 well.. I'm from Denmark and I have never been to Scotland or Engalnd, but I know I'm gonna visit both of them.. but my point is: I think you are right when you say Scotland is unique, but I think England is unique too :) and I dont see Scotland as a part of England (if it was that you meaned) I see it as a part of GB, but you are still your own contry.. like Denmark is a part of Sacandinavian, but we are still Denamrk and not Norway.. :))

  • @MsHappyKat i see what you mean. is there rivalry between norway and denmark that is similar to that between england and scotland?

  • @Calza321 no.. we are great friends :D I got family in Norway :D :D

  • @MsHappyKat ahh.. im sorry i didnt know........... lol there's not much about Scandinavia in british news :(

  • @Calza321 its the same bout GB :) I watch BBCentertainment.. but I still dont lern mutch about it :( my uncle has been in Scotland and he told me it was fantastic :) and I've seen a lot of pics from England.. so I know I'm gonna visit both of them :))

  • @MsHappyKat Britain is not a country, it's a union state originating from 1707, before that year there was no such thing as Great Britain. The United Kingdoms (UK) originates from the year 1603 when King James VI of Scotland took over the English throne.

    Scotland, England, Wales & N.Ireland are constituent countries, hence they are the countries.

    However, all nations within the British isles and UK are British citizens also, that includes Scots, English, Welsh and N.Irish.

  • @Calza321 ALBA GU BRATH!

  • @Calza321 You sound like quite an angry person. Perhaps you don't know that 75% of our laws are made in Brussels, not London.

  • @Calza321 Aye. Alba Gu Brath! I honestly have nothing against the English. But i do want freedom for scotland!

  • I'm really weary in watching this film, due to the fact my great aunt Kay was one of them who took the sone on Xmas eve. I only know the story from her and what really happened to the sone xxxx We miss you Kay xxxx

  • I like the film^^

    Can somebody tell me how the song at 1:09 is called, please?

  • @SheetaDeLaputa

    It's 'To the Battle' by the Real McKenzies.

  • @stucawdor Thank you!

  • Scotland !

  • OMG Charlie Cox is so amazing :D

  • The stone now resides in Edinburgh Castle, Scotland.

    In future coronations the stone get's used then brought back.

    But most speculate that the stone isn't even the real one, and that we switched it with a fake in the 13th Century. :)

  • I loved the movie.

    What I can't understand is why everyone accuses it of anglophobia.

    They never said: "THE ENGLISH ARE TERRIBLE PEOPLE!", and I'm pretty good at reading through the lines. There was no hint to such an idea.

    The wish to be independent is not xenophobia.

  • i diden't get into this at first but it really was a sweet movie and i am totally glad i watched it.

  • the shot at 0:12 looks like it´s taken from the harry potter films! maybe it´s the hogwarts express..

  • @aquadarling: It actually is.

    The Hogwarts express is actually the train to Glasgow, the way I remember it.

  • Thats cause youre English mate and dont understand the passion of the Scots.

    Persionally I loved the movie and felt it deserved a much wider UK distribution.

  • @polisnaemair i wouldn't say that exactly since my grandad is from Scotland .......... i just thought it was a pile of piss to be honest, terrible acting and total SNP horse shit its a gayer version of braveheart

  • thats your opinion.. its a great movie in my opinion

  • @gatineausparks Well thats that then matey

  • Didn't the English brought the Stone back in 1996?

  • Loung live SCOTTLAND soon scottland will have the king agin and the stone will have to come home.

  • There is one 't' in Scotland and I doubt that. We're not getting it back, they've made that pretty clear.

  • Saw the film during an Etihad flight from London weeks ago. It was a heart-warming film. Perfect movie to cap off my UK visit.

  • Great movie! Cheers from Upper Silesia! We, the Silesians, have similar situation here like you in Scotland five dacades ago. Hope we'll gain again our own parliament that was liquidated 64 years ago by polish comunists.

  • Great movie. Hope Scotland gains it's independence soon.

  • This movie was great!

  • This film is very misleading in one important point. The Scottish Covenant Association, to which the gan belonged, did not want an all-out independent Scotland, they just wanted a Scottish Parliament (which now exists).

  • I think the film is very clear that the Covenant wanted a parliament. Its is straight out said.

  • fare play to them for getting the stone back,

  • wyk that they use the Real McKenzies!

  • wat a film, thats what scotlands all about.

  • i didnt expect it to be that awesome. guess i must go to scotland someday

  • It's an excellent film and a brilliant story.

  • I L.O.V.E. this film!!! And I like Charles Martin Smith and Billy Boyd.

    But it has been not showed (is that right?? I think not so...) in Germany :(

    I buy it from Amazon...

    AND I love Canada.

    BUT I'm living in Germany.

    BUT I like Canada more than Germany.

    HMMM... problems, many problems...

  • @MoreAmericanGraffiti

    I like Germany more than I like Canada

    and I live in Canada!

    problems problems indeed XD

    (the Scottish are also quite epic themselves no?)

  • I rented this!

  • i'm related to Billy Boyd =D teehee

  • wow . he sings well in lord of the rings

  • The movie is on release down here in New Zealand in art house cinemas at the moment.

  • and on air new zealand planes :)

  • amazing movie!!!

  • i'm obsessed with this movie

  • This movie was great. Saw it last night. Hidden gem for sure.

  • Lol. "Captured" by the English. The narrator means stolen.

    A good film well worth seeing.

  • Briliant movie! Very good :)

  • I would like to buy the DVD but

    1. I haven´t got enough money... (to many choclate)

    2. It is only in English! Why it is not in German???

    I try to look it in English XD

  • i have this cd but its so boring dont buy it !!!

  • This movie is fantastic! Shame it never got the publicity it deserved. Was it ever shown outside Scotland?

  • yep, it was shown here in Canada

    I loved it!

  • im in the scene at te start of the film, in the hall when robert carlisle is giving his speech....you have to watch the film to see me in it

  • christ....cant believe im in this

  • where?! which one is u

  • they say, that the one under the Queens chair, is a fake one. And the real one is somewheres else... Probably sits in Sir Evelyn Greedy Fuck Rothschilds house

  • was this the stone wallace was killed on

  • is this movie good?

  • just watched it its raelly good

  • yeah... stunning me

  • It's funny because,for years we where trying to get it back. But then these kids just walk in and take it XD

  • Great film, but it was not stolen by the English, it was stolen by Longshanks - King Edward I - who was a ruthless monarch.

  • he was the king of england

  • I am fully aware, but he himself chose to steal the stone, not the English people. Bearing in mind well over 80% of the English people back then were simple village people who could not even read or write.

  • the king represents the people, fuk England, it took till 1998 to get the stone back to scotland

  • Grow up. It's people like you who cause trouble.

  • thats not the real stone in scotland it was a double blank, ..the real one is under my feet now jk about the last bit

  • "the king represents the people, fuk England."

    You think it's ok to smear a nation of 40 million people... because of events that happened over 700 years ago?

    William Wallace killed plenty of his fellow countrymen. But does that mean I should label all Scots as murderers? Of course not.

  • Wallace didnt kill fellow countrymen, that was made up by the English. Ok to smear a nation because of events taht happend 700 years ago? If you say that then Scotland should be independant then, but no, bs England doesnt want Scotland to get ritch from its own oil reserves

  • Actually, Scotland benefits hugely from English taxpayer's money. Scotland has more money spent per capita on health and education than any other part of the UK, including London. Over 500,000 Scots are employed by the state. And without English taxpayer's money to bail out institutions like the Royal Bank of Scotland, the Scottish would now be in same desperate situation as the Irish.

    I notice that you are Canadian. Why then, is this subject personal to you? Why such dislike of the English?

  • no it says I live in Canada, its personal cuz I was born and raised in Scotland

  • Scotland puts far more into England than it gets through oil, gas, whisky, water, even electricity we produce 50% more than we need the rest is given to England and we pay the bill the EU done a study at the time Britain sits in the top 3 rich list in Europe Ireland 4th if we brake away ireland moves up we go 4th and England goes under 7th and our banks wouldn't need help if Westminster didn't lit them loose as Holyrood told them not to so get the real facts not Westminster scare facts

  • North sea oil revenues - at what, £8-12bn a year - are fairly insignificant in the context of the UK economy. Even taking into account electricty/gas/water, Scotland ends up with a net deficit against the rather generous levels of public spending that you benefit from ( this is confirmed by the GERS numbers, quietly accepted by nationalists ).

    England is finished as a first world nation. Yet, our taxes are still propping up an unsustainable socialist experiment North of the border.

  • Those revenues aren't insignificant when the UK (as a whole) is running a deficit close to 15% of GDP. In that context, they are extremely important.

    As for the GERS numbers they show Scotland running a surplus of £2.3bn in total over the last 3 fiscal years. That is why they are accepted by nationalists.

    You are right about one thing though. England is finished as a first world nation. English taxes can't even support England, far less prop up anyone else.

  • We'll just have to wait and see what happens if/when Scotland gets independence.

    Presumably, you think Scotland will end up far better off outside the UK, with a Swedish-style economy. I however, see an aging Scotland with an economy that increasingly resembles Ireland's.

    "Arc of prosperity"? Er, no.

    You forgot to mention that North sea oil has already peaked and is now plummeting ( down 9% this year ). Scotland requires spending cuts that would make Thatcher's eyes water.

  • Yes Scotland will be infinitely better off as an independent country controlling its own resources and economy.

    What Scotland needs less of is this - and it is perhaps something you can help with.

    We need less of the ill-informed and ignorant bilge that passes for commentary on Scotland by people who do not live in Scotland, know nothing about Scotland (let alone her economy) and gain their insights from the Daily Mail or Telegraph comment columns or the loonier end of the English right wing.

  • As I said, we'll just have to wait and see. Only time will tell whether an independent Scotland will thrive or struggle financially.

    But it's just a bit lazy to call people who disagree with you "Daily Mail" readers. Personally, I was born in Scotland and most of my family lives there. But if it's easier for you to visualise me as a reader of "loonie English right wing" columns then that's up to you.

    You failed to respond to my (important) point about declining North sea oil. Why?

  • It is hardly lazy when your own post drags out the hoary old chestnuts so beloved of the loonier end of the English right wing:-

    - mention of "English taxpayers" {check}

    - mention of state employment in Scotland (Over 500,000 Scots are employed by the state) {check}

    (bearing in mind that that only represents around 22% of the workforce - and that a similar proportion of English work in the public sector).

    and notion of Scotland of as a "bizarre socialist experiment" {check}

    A full house!

  • My own posts have focused on Scotland's economy and political structure. Your posts have descended into petty name calling ( how many more times are you going to throw in the word "loonie"? ).

    Oil prices are only going up because the US dollar is going down the toilet. I'd hardly call that encouraging. And oil IS a big factor here because if/when Scotland joins the Euro, whatever remains of Scottish export production will take a brutal beating - just ask the Irish how much fun they're having.

  • I hardly think pointing out that your prejudices on Scotland and her economy constitute "petty name calling".

    If you were to have an original, well-researched opinion on Scotland's economy, then I'd be glad to hear it. Given I've had to correct several of your lazy assumptions thus far, it doesn't appear to me that you have.

    Oil price rises are demand-led and supply driven. Higher demand, lower supply equals higher prices.

    Oh and its not the dollar that is worthless. It is the Pound that is.

  • I suppose you think it's merely a coincidence that whenever the dollar drops, oil goes up?

    As for the pound going down... yes, it certainly is. In fact, the last 2 years have seen the biggest drop in the pound since the early 1930's. And that's actually a GOOD thing because we desperately need to move away from being a consumer economy and become an exporting economy. The euro's strength against the dollar is destroying manufacturing and would damage Scotland's economy too. Continued...

  • No, I know enough about the mechanics of commodity prices to realise that they are demand-led and supply driven.

    The UK will never be an exporting economy again. The comparative advantage there has almost totally gone.

  • Oil revenue is price rather than quantity driven. North Sea oil peaked in production in 1999. But oil revenues in that year were around a third lower than they are at this time with lower production, With prices currently at $80 a barrel and forecast to rise well above $120 a barrel in the not too distant future that declines in production are more than outweighed by the rises in price.

    Also oil only forms a part of the Scottish economy, it certainly isn't the be all and end all of it.

  • .... these aren't "lazy assumptions" - they are statements of fact. Scotland faces a very real prospect of ending up where Ireland finds herself today i.e a generation-wrecking Depression. Your youth unemployment is already at critical levels ( unemployment is rising in Scotland faster than anywhere else in the UK ). The euro won't help.

    p.s When you start smearing someone as a "loonie right wing Telegraph reader" it certainly does sound quite petty ( and I don't even read the Telegraph ).

  • No, you are wrong again. Unemployment is around a fifth lower in Scotland than it is in the rest of the UK. Youth unemployment is also much lower here than it is in the rest of the UK. Economic activity is higher in Scotland as is Labour Force participation. These and all the other facts are easily verifiable.

    What Scotland faces is a very real depression by remaining tethered to a bankrupt and sinking UK. Ireland, despite its problems, has a LOWER fiscal deficit/national debt than the UK does.

  • Unemployment is indeed lower in Scotland. That's hardly surprising; England has been absorbing your unemployed for decades.

    You're welcome ;-)

    My point was that unemployment is rising FASTER in Scotland ( this was underlined only 2 weeks ago in The Scotsman, of which you are no doubt a reader, lol ). As for your claim that Ireland has a lower fiscal deficit than the UK, take a look at this Youtube video:

    Debtor nation DEATH?!?!?

    It sums up Ireland's catastrophe rather succinctly.

  • I suggest you take a look at the OECD recent report on deficits. Ireland has a lower fiscal deficit than the UK. Even Iceland has a lower fiscal deficit than the UK has. And Iceland was supposed to be bankrupt.

    On unemployment, I was looking at the latest statistical release from earlier this month. One again Scotland was outperforming the rest of the UK in terms of the growth in unemployment and in terms of the relative size of unemployment.

  • Oh, and I think you'll find that in terms of migration of difference economic cases between Scotland and England - it is those who tend to be qualified and professional that leave Scotland for England (and from England to Scotland too, incidentally), rather than the unemployed. This generally has always been the case.

    After all unemployment (in the truest definition of the word) is never a nice state for anyone to be in, is it?

  • Haha. Excellent points...

    It bugs me when people think like that

  • looks good.

  • loved this film, such a giggle, esp spotting all the 'london' scenes, of which a lot of them looked funnily like Glasgow!

  • This is it, ladies and gents. The budget of this current Mob film is rising.

    Haven't you noticed?

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