Seeking immortality - Doctor Who - BBC classic sci-fi

[jimmy6wire]

I watch doctor back in the day and still timeless .love it!

[TheEddiejones15]

"Ratalon" WTF BBC!?!

[ceonotaph]

oh god it's like that one episode of courage the cowardly dog

[DCdabest]

love the ending!

[TARDIS280]

Call me crazy, but I like Rassilon's orginal voice better. While this one sounds cool, it also sounds...strange. Like it doesn't really fit.

[NateSean]

"Fight it my boy, fight it! You're all older than me, but damn it if I'm not going to talk down to you, you whipper snappers."

[Remoniq]

Seen this episode, it was awesome. Bt is also on off the only classic episodes i have seen.

[325Chuck355]

Well, that's a whole new definition of talking to yourself

[joszher]

where is the 4th doctor who? tom baker?

[XxLi3rose123xX]

@joszher He was stuck in the vortex or something? :S

[StaraziaSelin66]

@joszher in real life he didn't want to do it (probably out of jealousy or tire of working on the series) so they worked his absence into the plot by making him "stuck in a time vortex" (the footage was of an unaired serial with Romana II).

[SickSilckMan]

@joszher Tom Baker in real life felt it was too soon after his initial run as the Doctor, so he opted out. In the world of the Doctor he was stuck in a time vortex.

[ReverendSyn]

"My boy?" Isn't One actually younger than Five?

[chocolatefountain95]

Tom Baker regretted not doing this. He would rock

[ReverendSyn]

@chocolatefountain95 They need to team up all the living Doctors for at least one episode. Say each of them are from an alternate universe where each of them never got the injury that caused them to regenerate. They all still had pretty much the same adventures,(Like Four & Five still faced the same Valeyard trial for example)

this would explain why theyre actually older. Each of them aged normally without having their particular accidents

[ReverendSyn]

You'd think Five should have seen this coming by now and have been ready for it. Considering he's seen this happen to him three times before. And that THree should have remembered it from Two and One's perspective. And Two should have remembered in from One's perspective so three of them should have been able to come up with a way to prevent Fives predicament before it happened

I mean in TIMECRASH Ten managed to avert a catastrophe becuase he saw himself do it when HE was in Five's place.

[Ibringthetruth1]

kind of dumb plot twist. real immortality would have been wiser script choice with DR's tricking the ring off his finger and destroying it and Mr god.

[KendrixTermina]

Lol, all four of them with the same expression XD

[chewie211171]

where can I get Borusa's staff/rod??? If I do that to my kids I'd be thrilled !!!!

[chocolatefountain95]

DO YOU CLAIM IMMORTALITY TOO?

All Doctors apart from Tom Baker : No ta

[ReverendSyn]

@chocolatefountain95 I like how theyre "No, we're good."

Is this the same Rassilon that Ten faced? I thought he was supposed to be dead. You cant regenerate from death, Only if youre close to dying.

[chocolatefountain95]

@ReverendSyn I think it's the same.

Check Wikipedia it explains all

[legodarknight101]

I think the title of Rassilon is passed on from President to President, that explains why the Doctor called the lord President it in the End of Time. It's sort of like a Ceaser. Not every emperor was called ceaser but it was just a title they gave to them.

[Scarperguy]

@legodarknight101 Apart from Borusa isn't called Rassilon in this..

[jbaynam]

@legodarknight101 no, otherwise Borusa would have been President Rassilon, the truth is, Rassilon was resurrected for the Time War, same as The Master

[TheHutchhickersGuide]

The first Doctor... the most wisest of them all in my opinion

but the question is, what if Rassilon believed the Doctors , you know, when they sed "dont believe him" an all tha.... what wouldve happened then?

[us71]

@TheHutchhickersGuide In the Three Doctors and the Five Doctors, #1 always did seem the wisest... or at least the only one his other selves would listen to.

[PLIJIM]

"Then came along, Rassilon, with his ever present sense of right and wrong. He was strong, he was mighty, he was the founder of Time Lord society." -Chameleon Circuit

[stevean2]

the doctor's reaction at the end was hilarous

[carvell99]

"No, No, NO my lord" smart answer's.

[OmegaShenron6574]

anyone else notice how the description says Ratalon? also how the effin donkey knockers did rassilon return if he is here in the death zone locked in eternal sleep

[kaledmasterme]

@OmegaShenron6574 Probably because the Timelords needed his leadership in the Time War, they would have resurrected him in the same way as the Master :)

[PaulMichaels78]

A fitting end for Borousa. Greed will be your ultimate undoing.

[hentaitrek]

By The Mighty Mutton-Chops of Rassilon!

[sergei73073II]

I personally think 'THIS IS THE GAME OF RASSILON!' is a really cool quote.

[pandaphil]

From Milton Bradley!

[greatsayain]

It sounds like the first doctor is admitting to being the president's servant.  Can't he tell Rassilon that the Prez shoudl have immortality without saying he is a servant?

[dfri729]

Why did they mess with Rassilon's voice?!!!

[greatsayain]

he sounds like Boss Nass

[MKTrny]

gosh this is cool!

[WiccanWitch61646]

....What happened to Rassilon? He sounds like Zordon from the Power Rangers! O_O

[ReverendSyn]

Maybe Zordon is Gallifreyan

[AJSZodiac]

Tardizord?

[ReverendSyn]

1:30 - shouldnt there have been an explosion when the elder Doctor touched his past counterpart?

On more than one occasion theyve stressed that a person must never make physical contact with themselves from another time.

The Brigadeer did so once and an explosion happened.

[notmyidea4]

I don't think this applies to Time Lords.

[ReverendSyn]

I suppose not.

Then again they arent EXACTLY the same person, at least not on a physical level.

[ReverendSyn]

Boy, you'd think the Fifth Doctor would have remembered being mind controlled from THREE different perspectives and have been well prepared to AVOID getting mentally pwned for a number of years beforehand.

[notmyidea4]

I like how the old FASA RPG explained this kinda stuff..now I will try a crack at this. At this very moment, that this is happening, a new alternate timeline is being created...thus, only NOW when the 5th Doctor is experiencing this..is his past selfs remembering it. Up until now, they existed in a previous timeline w/o any knowledge of what is about to happen. Make sense? =\

[norbit87]

one theory on wikipedia is that time lords erease their memories after this knd of stuff.

(and if your wondering why the doctor remembered in timecrash the timelords weren't around then)

[djamc85]

As once summed-up perfectly by David Tennant in 'Blink' : "Wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey"

excellent description and a brilliant way to mask the fact that the writers couldn't be bothered (or weren't clever enough) to come up with an explanation.

[kaledmasterme]

@notmyidea4 The thing is, time is in flux, so when all the Doctors meet, their memories are re written at exactly the same time as they experience this stuff.

[tardistuner]

Kohntarkosz-sorry! i've been a fan for 33 years,just being a bloody know-all my apologies.

[tardistuner]

note to borusa don't wear second hand jewellery!!!!!

[CTA7T6]

I claim immortality!!!!

[CTA7T6]

Rassilon sounds as if he has a sore throat!!!

[CTA7T6]

Those creepy eyes on Rassilons's bier really freak me out!!!!

[CTA7T6]

Rassilon sounds as though he has a sore throat!

By the way, his surname was HURNDALL not TURNBALL.

[wulfae]

Oh BBC, epic fail. Ratalon??

[sayward12]

it's Rassilon, not Ratalon btw.

[eggstrememedia]

BBC have changed Rassilons voice.. the VHS 5 doctors has the actors original voice..

Bad move BBC :S

[teenageatheist]

How useful, there's an empty space on the bier for Borusa! Those faces always creep me out though, especially the eyes that literally follow you round the room.

[wesleyis16]

THAT ISN'T WILLIAM HARTNELL!!!

[Kohntarkosz]

That's right. Hartnell had died not too long after they did The Three Doctors in 1973. His place was taken by Richard Turnball, who, oddly, passed away not too long after The Five Doctors.

[tardistuner]

the name of the actor was richard HURNDALL who

died in 1984 william hartnell died in 1975.he was very ill and had been in hospital for a long time.richard hurndall is nowhere near as good as william hartnell.

[Kohntarkosz]

So, apart from missing Hurndall's name by one letter, I was basically correct, then?

[pillockbrain]

bring back the Daleks!!

Exterminate...Used to watch it in London in the 1960's!!

[AntoineDCoolette]

If it were any old nobody I might pay it no mind, but the BBC should remember who RASSILON is.

Unless for some reason they decided that this was now the lesser Time Lord by the name of Ratalon, Rassilon's meaner cousin.

[Gentlemansubaru]

i always wondered if this tomb was the tomb of captain jack harkness, or the face of Boe. funny if it does become his tomb. lol.

[USFella]

Tom Baker: the definitive Dr. Who

[Sukram3rd]

☺☺☺☺☺

[a0e0roberts]

This from Wiki: William Hartnell passed away soon after, in 1975. In the 20th anniversary special The Five Doctors, the role of the First Doctor was played by Richard Hurndall.