Differences and non-duality

[claytonfairn]

totally relative, relative to other truths we as humans have agreed upon. But does agreement equate to reality? What does the idea that i am not separate from life mean in the intensity of a death in the family, or kidney stones, or anything like that? in my experience The only freedom that is the freedom from belief the freedom from taking imagination as truth or reality. just made my first vid check it out "nonduality and belief" good vid tho thouartthat!

[claytonfairn]

Dont get me wrong there is some great debate going on here but if anyone is searching for freedom from separation, no truth is going to set you free so to speak, its not that there is no difference between a tree and a car, it's that thought is what makes the distinction. Its not going to give you the identity of a liberated individual to know scientifically that a tree and a car are made of the same "stuff" so to speak. i got caught up in the truth game for years only to find that truth is

[peterjordan16910]

remember there is no 2 things itentical in the world therefore all numbers apart from 1 are mearly theories.

Peace

[tygesh]

Ohh he must be a wise boy to confuse himself this much. HELLO there: You do not sound wise okay.... You conceptualize and mentalize and intellectualize. STOP THINKING!!! That´s what it´s all about, - rather than trying to sound deeply clever to others.

[YuukoFyeSeishirou]

Please could you answer me that??

What are other people???

We are one, yet we are separate. We create our universe, yet other people also do. Then how do we interact? Are we really interacting? What is the boundary between our doings and other people doings? Do we really "create" other people, if it all depends on our mind? And thus... do other people really exist?

Too much for me sorry I'll be grateful if you could answer somehow.

Ps: Cute the cat miaowing in the background

[Simulacra541]

"duality vs nonduality is a duality unto itself.." is the truth. You can't escape it on your own.

[peterjordan16910]

@Simulacra541 yes everything in the world apears dual even the concept of non-duality. for non duality to appear in the world of duality it has to appear in dual. very fucked up world yes?

Peace.

[cybercruser]

What I hear from all of the non dual traditions over and over again is that you can't think your way to 'enlightenment'/'realization' (even though it is already the fact - most people just aren't aware of it). Furthermore, these theoretic understandings and debates can become obstacles in themselves.

[MaBu888]

Hast thou cat now, O Matthew?

[MaBu888]

One as many as not two but permutations infinite, containing the two as neither precisely this nor precisely that. Oneness is just a permutation of nonduality.

[9claudius]

Do you think Borobudur is a giant Buckminsterfullerine ? The "sacred" numbers that are coded in it's shape must have been revealed to it's builders through trance inducing foods.

[megamanium]

non-duality is not oneness, oneness isn't everything, it's only one half of the story. oneness is everything but can only exist with an infinite amount of possibility in perfect balance.

This thought that you can do anything about non-duality is ridiculous. You can't do anything about anything because that's balance. Or choice is just what you experience in the presence of destiny. Everything is perfect and anything you do will happen regardless of whether you experience choice.

[logannic]

Transcending only implies a higher and lower to the dualistically conditioned mind. The drop exists and the ocean exists...not separate. The lesser is contained within the greater. Transcending is not to climb, but to realize the nature of Self as Allness.

[MaBu888]

Yet, the relatively manifest samsara is still evolving, on a hard hard path towards perfection once more, no end to the journey. One must, in addition to acheiving the state of all state, one must realize the stage of all stages of development, when subject and object are one despite simplicity and complexity arising as one.

Great perfection is possible, perhaps not during this lifetime, notice that I am not a dualist, but a developmental or evolutionary nondualist.

[yopeeyo]

The Cat in this video is a spy for the planet xx3-5,this cat is gathering information about the nature of humans.Meow.

[yopeeyo]

An outsight is an insight inside out.

[yopeeyo]

There is only the 3 and 4 without the 1 or 2?

[RobSlanina]

duality vs nonduality is a duality unto itself...one that can be transcended. :-)

[yopeeyo]

Tripleality Transcends all 3.

[HaleyMary]

I think on some level, everything does exist together, but everything is also separate from everything else. Even if the consciousness is something we won't find in the brain and even though personalities of others depend on interactions with others, there isn't any consciousness of being aware of everything at once because the interactions can be limited.

Cool cat. :)

[regemo]

it's disturbing though that everything i do is motivated by either pleasure or pain. but pleasure and pain have no meaning except an activation of nerve cells that the body is coded to react to in a certain way. in that way "pain and pleasure" are information. it gets input into my senses and i respond in the way that i'm genetically coded to. that's kind of creepy isn't it?

[jogayot]

at best our current IT infrastructure is minerals, weather patterns, ordered flows in ion/molecular patterns of the elctromagnetic spectrum. perhaps parts of metabolism but no replication or systems with membrane.

[plenipotentiarius]

These ideas on duality, oneness etc. are very old, you should read Parmenides if you haven't already. Maybe then you'd be less distracted by the glitter and the fads of "modern science" that seem to inhibit thinking in a non-mechanical or non-mathematical way or else tend to produce outlandish hyperphysicalist poetrese.

[Israe5l]

I agree. I think philosophy can be reduced to Parmenides and Heraclitus. As for Parmenides he propounds the One. But then the One is rally not the One, because what is outside of the One? You have Two. Contradiction. So we end up with a questionable onE.

[yopeeyo]

3 and 4 were before the 1 and 2 then came the ONE and 1 2 3 strikes your out ball 4 its a walk.

[Israe5l]

Very possibily something complex like you say might be the case. Time may not be one-diementional as well. What would a 3D time look like (again "look"!)?

[patternsinchaos]

Great points. Excellent analysis. Thanks Matt. I'm not sure the scientific world has concluded that we are just machines. There are many well respected scientists who realize that there is more there than may meet the eye. ;-)

[0ThouArtThat0]

yes, i know. I said "modern, traditional science" to distinguish it from the cutting edge research going on. "Normal science" (in Kuhn's sense) is still treating organisms like machines. "Revolutionary science" is trying to shift the paradigm.

[TheLovesoul1]

@0ThouArtThat0 thank you man if you have a vid u'd like to see on my channel just email me or whatever that sounds like a nice cat.(000)

[pythagoras9]

I am sorry for the repeated comment but it is not my fault but the fault of the you tube technology.

You can delete the surplus comments if you like.

[havonastudios]

Awesome video. I think the 'ultimate' perspective is the state of flowing between many perspectives. (Not clinging to one or the other; having NO model; no favored stance.) I see everything as one. I also see 'all' the different permutations of reality. These are, essentially, categorizations of aspects and relationships which are dependant on FOCUS. When I focus on certain aspects, I ignore others and create a 'false' (temporary but useful) model. I do this in order to accomplish a task.

[0ThouArtThat0]

...just like muscles contract when we reach for our tea?

[MaBu888]

! Yes !

[pythagoras9]

What do you mean by non-duality? Could you please define what you mean by non-duality!

[0ThouArtThat0]

nope, it is impossible. sorry. unless you can define it?

[pythagoras9]

Even though human beings are similar, or the same in design nature still creates us a bit differently from each other because everyone uses their brain differently and their personalities are different.

[0ThouArtThat0]

what does the word personality mean?

i think it means how a person acts around others.

the point is just that who you are depends on who i am, and who we are depends on who everyone else we have interacted with is and who the people they have interacted with are, and so on, and on, and on...

there is never an individual without a community of other individuals.

[pythagoras9]

I am sure people are born differently are they not?

Attempt a description of what you mean by non-duality!

[0ThouArtThat0]

people are born with an inheritance of billions of years worth of genes which each only work in the context of a particular relationship with other people, organisms, environments, etc. so the differences we mark between people are recognized only in terms of the relationships which already exist.

[pythagoras9]

So you think that people are much more alike than they think they are?

[0ThouArtThat0]

not exactly. i think what people think they are like depends on what they think other people are like.

[pythagoras9]

I know what you mean because people look up to other people as role models or as examples of how to go about doing things. People rarely behave in a manner that is completely divorced from how other people behave.

[AOEGuy]

I still am a bit stuck on this topic... A month or so ago I got really stuck between realizing singularity and duality in life. Like, I couldn't distinguish if life is really duality balanced as one, or if oneness is just duality with the yin/yang coming together into one. Then yin/yang disappear...

[0ThouArtThat0]

I am pretty sure that non-duality is impossible to understand... like I said at the end of this video about the way we think always by putting things into containers... well non-duality cannot be contained. So because of that, we have no idea what it is, or how it relates to all our containers (ideas about the world, like duality, balance, ying, yang, etc).

[jallopyclown]

I think the term "non-duality" usually refers to a rejection of the idea that the "self" is truly separate from the "other". Alan Watts described this as a "red circle", where two attributes (color and shape) were not mutually exclusive. Obviously all the attributes of reality are non-exclusive.

[Loreleila]

It's one, but it's also a multiplicity. Non duality means simply that, it isn't 'this' or 'that', as we are encouraged to believe, or language is set up to lead us to perceive. With duality there is always an enemy, without it everything is interrelated.

Good cat. :)