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  • Great video! Religion is unnecessary!

  • LOL... I love how there's no citation for the prison statistics. There never is. It's just one atheist copying it from another! lol

  • The statistics say one thing, but reality shows something else. The communist countries perpetrated some of the most horrendous acts in history, such as the killing fields in Cambodia, and yet they were officially atheist. The atheist countries deprived people of their civil rights and encouraged discrimination against minorities. The Nazis may have included some "christians," but their teachings were antichristian and based on survival of the fittest.

  • @AlanRussellFuller Did any other these atrocities happen in the name of atheism? Or did these countries just exchange one totalitarian idealism for another? One type of god for another? Look to the present day atheistic countries of Scandinavia, where free thought, critical thinking and humanism has produced some of the best countries to live in. Compared to countries ruled, and war done in the name of, religion. I can't think of a book that has brought more misery to humanity than the Bible.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf

    The Scandinavian countries aren't officially atheist like the communist countries. The Bible didn't invent atrocities. Those things existed before the Bible and are part of human nature. Christianity gave us western civilization after Rome legalized it. Would you rather live in North Korea or Red China?

  • @AlanRussellFuller So when someone commits an atrocity in the name of their God/Religion it's just human nature, but when a godless person commits an atrocity it was somehow because of Atheism? Besides that being a double standard, your not making any sense. Atheism is a non-belief, that's all, like hair to a bald man or stamps to a non-stamp collector, or in your case your an APantheist. And i'm sorry your bible is full of atrocities that justify excuses for people to commit many atrocities.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf People may commit atrocities in the name of a god, or they may do it for some other silly reason, such as racial purity. That tells me that believing in god isn't the root of the problem. The problem with attributing these things to the Bible is that people who say that don't understand the spiritual qualities of the Bible. Paul said, "not from a written Law. After all, the Law brings death, but the Spirit brings life. 2 Cor 3:5"

  • @AlanRussellFuller Bingo! Totalitarianism is the problem, be it theistic or state controlled. Atheism has nothing to do with those problems and never has. Free thought, skepticism and humanism, as demonstrated by Atheist heavy Scandinavia, have produced some best countries in the world. Your religious end at my nose. If we're going to be neighbors, save me your religious bigotry, your immoral bible, and superstitious supernatural beliefs. Free thought, logic, reason and humanism are all I need.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf You don't know what morality is. If you did you wouldn't be prejudiced against the Bible.

  • @AlanRussellFuller Wiki "Ethics", then go read your bible, in particular the old testament. Read Leviticus, read Deuteronomy, read Judges, read Numbers, read Exodus. Then try and tell me your God isn't misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf You've just proven you don't understand the Bible, and I doubt that you've ever read it. Most people who make such accusations haven't. The Bible gives allegorical stories about morality. As I said, they are spiritual teachings that can't be understood on the literal level alone. If you insist on a literal interpretation then you should understand that most of what you refer to happened to descendants of nephilim who weren't fully human. The Bible describes people's sin.

  • @AlanRussellFuller What was it when Jephthah sacrificed his daughter to God, allegory or nephilim?

    If it was a allegory, how was it NOT immoral for God to allow Jephthah to sacrifice his daughter?

    Not only does God not explain himself, he leaves it up to anyone to try and interpret.

    So how do we know your interpretation is correct over the next guy?

    We don't. Because I don't know who to believe I am left with letting the bible speak for itself... unless God decides to tell me otherwise.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf You make me laugh. Since when did atheists start believing the Bible anyway? The story is allegorical since that's what the NT says.

  • @AlanRussellFuller Your not reading all my comments or your just trolling me.

    I already addressed the story as allegory (altho I know many many Christians that would argue with you that it was literal), it doesn't matter, the story of Jephthah IS STILL IMMORAL, and GOD IS IMMORAL.

    You have no defense to this, so my argument stands.

  • @AlanRussellFuller Part 2) If I let the bible speak for itself, then Jephthah is a murderer, and I would have him arrested. If God allowed this to happen, he did not show any mercy, therefore was unjust and cruel, I would also say God was an accessory to murder, un-caring and unreasonable. Certainly not a God of love and compassion.

    If God were here right now we would drag him up in front of a tribunal for crimes against humanity. When you have evidence otherwise get back to me.

  • @AlanRussellFuller God is love - God is Jealous - Love is not Jealous

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf Look towards the Spirit, not the letter. If you actually read the Bible sometime you'll see that Jesus taught in parables. Parables are a form of allegory. As Paul said, "these things are allegory."

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf I have no problem going the distance on this topic, i've been a Bible preacher for 35 years.

    Peace Agape Friend

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf All you've proven is that you don't know the Bible and haven't even read it. If you had you would know that what is impossible with men is possible with God. I feel sorry for your congregations if you really were a preacher.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf You say you've been a Bible preacher for 35 years. When and what denomination?

  • @AlanRussellFuller What wacky history books are you reading. Greece and Rome brought us Western Civilization before Christianity became a state religion. Christianity gave us the dark ages, it wasn't until the enlightenment and those brave souls who challenged the church under threat of death that we saw any semblance of civilizations return. Its' those era's of logic, reason, free thought, and skepticism that have paved the way for what we have now, not authoritarian religious rule of past.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf I answer the questions that come to my e-mail.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf If you really want to have a discussion make a comment on my channel page and I'll give you an email. I don't like the format of You Tube comments. There's not room to say much.

  • @AlanRussellFuller If you really can't refute the objection I raised to the biblical story of Jephthah, then I wonder who is wasting who's time here? It's either MORAL or IMMORAL.

    Why on earth would you need a essay format for such a small strait forward story as that one, and that's only one of the many grossly immoral stories in the OT.

    Do you need to write another bible to explain the bible? And by who's authority? What evidence do you have to prove your interpretation is correct?

  • @AlanRussellFuller Comments made. If you want to send a message in private click on the "send message" beside my profile picture on my channel.

    I'm looking forward to this massive explanation you need to give to refute the immoral story of Jephthah murdering his Daughter and God sitting there allowing it to happen.

    Is that something you would do? I hope not.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf Is it immoral to be faithful to the Lord? Not at all. The Son of God gave His life out of love. Abraham demonstrated his faith with his son. Jephthah was a hero of faith. His daughter willingly surrendered her life out of faith and love of the Lord. As such she is a type of Christ. The allegory is clear.

  • @AlanRussellFuller So by your logic, it is a wonderful demonstration of faith for people to kill their children because they make some rash, barbarous vow to their God?

    Where was God's Love, Justice and Mercy shown in this stores of Jephthah?

    If you were put in the same situation of God you would allow a man to murder his child to you, in your name because he said something stupid?

    I believe your dangerous, and worry what you might to do to your neighbors since you find this murder so wonderful.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf His daughter laid down her life like Jesus laid down His. There is no greater love than to lay down your life for someone to love. Isn't there anybody you love more than your own life? No wife, child, mother or father?

  • @AlanRussellFuller Just like Jesus? So she saved lives? Was she resurrected? Did she have a choice? Or was she told by her father that he was to murder her because he made some rash stupid barbaric immoral vow to a God that would not step in like any moral loving compassionate merciful God would?

    So you support parents who kill there children today with the same excuse?

    Allan, wake up Allan. Your excuses are immoral. The WatchTower always tried to make a virtue out of the immoral.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf There is nothing barbaric about obediently laying down your life for love. It is an allegorical representation of the crucifixion. It has nothing to do with murder by parents or anybody else. Don't you love anybody that you would lay down your life for? In my country soldiers are given medals when they make sacrifices for others. Surely you must be able to understand that.

  • @AlanRussellFuller What scripture says this represents the crucifixion as an allegory?

    I would never burn my daughter, my only child, because I made a stupid immoral rash vow to a God i've never scene... you would? That really scares me.

    If I was a all loving all powerful God full of mercy and compassion, I would certainly put an end to the murder, as it serves no purpose whatsoever other than show how barbaric, cruel and delusional ancient people can be. Your argument is mute.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf She died because she laid her life down for her father and for God. She left for two months in the mountains. She didn't have to go back, but did so because she loved her father and respected God. As such she was a forerunner of Christ and a hero of faith like her father. She didn't value this life as much as the one that was coming, as it says in Hebrews 11. You just don't know the Bible, and have obiously never read all of it or you would know the answers to these things.

  • @AlanRussellFuller No, there is no way I would die for a God I never met and for a purposeless reason like my father swearing some rash vow. Would you?

    Thankfully the authorities agree with.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf That's not what I asked.

  • @AlanRussellFuller That's because you beyond what is written.

    Thankfully the Authorities agree with me.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf The authorities don't have anything to say about allegorical stories. If you think they do, then you're delusional.

  • @AlanRussellFuller Well you can explain that to the authorities the next time a parent kills their child in the name of God.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf They commit crime because they're mentally ill, not because of the way people interpret the Bible. If it were because of the way people believe the Bible, JW's wouldn't have any children left.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf Atheists just make things up off the top of their heads. Burnt offerings were not burned alive. Again, if you knew your Bible you would know that. The NT says it speaks of Christ and the church. Besides Hebrews 11 there is John 5:29, Luke 24:44, Hebrews 10:7 among others. Isn't there anybody you love as much as your life?

  • @AlanRussellFuller Oh Atheists are just so evil, I mean they want people to think before they cause harm in the name of God... just crazy.

  • @AlanRussellFuller Thankfully the authorities don't agree with you.

    You really do belong in the Dark ages.

    Radical Muslims would love you.

  • @AlanRussellFuller Part2) "Jephthah was a hero of faith"

    WOW! Some man slaughtering his child saying he did it for God, would be thrown in jail, and even the other prisoners would beat the shit out of him, maybe kill a child killer.

    Your God didn't even step in and show love, Justice or Mercy he sat back and allowed this maniac to burn his child like the other heathens. There is nothing redeeming about this story. It demonstrates what the deluded nut cases will do in the name of GOD. Disgusting

  • @AlanRussellFuller Part3) "His daughter willingly surrendered her life out of faith and love of the Lord."

    So when parents make rash illogical and murderous decisions, children should blindly obey even when their parent is about to harm or murder them?

    NO! Children should call the dam authorities. Their parents need to be put away so their delusional behavior endangers no one else.

    This is one of those horrible IMMORAL bible stories used to cow people into submission.

  • @AlanRussellFuller Part4) This story of Jephthah murdering his daughter to the stone-age desert genie Yahweh was used to teach children un-questioning faith to the the death.

    And what is faith? Belief without proof or evidence.

    Faith in not a pathway to truth. Faith is responsible for more intentional senseless death than anything I can think of. Faith is used when something doesn't make sense or when someone doesn't have the answers.

    Faith, in the story of Jephthah, is immoral.

  • @AlanRussellFuller Part5) Morality is about causing the LEAST amount of harm, not causing rash un-necessary death because of a stupid vow to a some sort of God which your bible does over and over again.

    These immoral stories of murder, obeying and following orders without question, are very convenient tools used by religions to keep their "SHEEP" on a short leash, and commit atrocities in the name of God.

    You find child murderer Jephthah "HEROIC"? I am extremely worried about people like you.

  • @SpecialPioneerSmerf I'm waiting.

  • WHY THE INTELLIGENT DESIGN DEBATE? If you discovered a sand castle on a lonely beach, you can't prove it was made by either chance or design. No one observed its origins. Either it was designed or the random forces of wind and waves made the castle. You didn't find fingerprints. Did the wind wipe the fingerprints away? How do we know that there were fingerprints in the first place? By chance or by design? Both sides should present their case. Read the article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES

  • NOT ALL EVOLUTIONISTS even agree on the fossils used to support and reconstruct human evolution. The bones are incomplete. There's no certainty of the bones belonging to the same creature. They can reconstruct whatever they want from these bones, and they have. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from an ape-like creature anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from a four-legged dog-like creature. Read my article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE

  • the IQ graph does not support your your hypothesis that as intelligence increases belief in god decreases, it represents it only to a point people that have little faith are the most intelligent. you should research this a little more.

  • No religion don't necessarily mean atheist or agnostic. I think you should double check your data.

  • Your comparing Prison population to US population?! Thats the dumbest thing i've ever heard. Is this how your science works? Then you you started to compare religious people and serial killers. 1 serial killer. And then you make some kind of crazy connection. You should watch more Glen Beck. He can teach you how to make crazy connections and stretches of the truth a little bit better. I know what will help, you need a chalkboard!

  • Well done! Religion is a pyschological disease and it boisters judgment and hate.

  • If christians are hypocrites, then who was Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Enver Hoxha. The best estimates are that between 5,000 and 10,000 were killed in the Spanish Inquisition. That’s compared with 100 million who were killed in the atheist purges of the twentieth century. There has been enough Killing on both sides. "THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE"

  • @JAHISGR8 The truth shall set you free. So you should begin your search.

  • Religion has persecuted people, murdered people, tortured people, taken away free speech from people, brainwashed people, taken away equal rights for women, etc, and it will continue to do so. Women are treated like second-class citizens, because of religion. So, religion is far from perfect, yet alone good in anyway. This is an example of why I'm an atheist.

    "If we cannot find God, then why doesn't God simply find us?"

    -Kyle aka "KarbineKyle"

  • Hey nice video VanCoffeeChick!

  • to answer all those saying that the percentages don't add up

    while I don't know for a fact, many demographics miss out certain trace or unimportant groups.

    Paganism, non-religious (but non-atheist), satanism, etc etc

    I doubt these were included in 'other religions'

  • Doesn't mean nothing just means there is a lot brain washed people out there and i am proud to be one of the few that isn't!

  • Lastly I will say, that the large financial influences in America who run America tend to dislike JudeoChristianity and religion as a whole. The notion of "helping the poor and sick" which Christ taught can actually cost these big money interests losses.

    For the super wealthy, a common pagan atheist ideology they tend to adhere to is "only the strongest survive, let the weak and poor die off" which exactly what the pagan atheist Nazi party promoted, and the pagan Roman empire.

  • @Rockguitarnow How is it that atheists are labeled both for the conflicting ideologies of communism and social darwinism?

  • @Rockguitarnow 1) Atheists are as much Pagan as Christians are french toast. 2) The most humanitarian projects I know of (live aid and live 8) were both organized by an atheist. 3) Since when did christians help the poor and sick more than anyone else does? I thought Jesus helped those who could help themselves. 4) Any one who knows darwinism will tell you that group survival and combined effort is what makes humanity great, and that we need to help people in need of aid.

    5) you're a liar

    :)

  • Regarding what is said at timing 0:35, we must remember that the world saw the worst mass slaughters of innocent human life conducted by atheists; Hitler and Stalin killed 100 million people. No religion persons have ever come exponentially close to that figure.

  • @Rockguitarnow Hitler was not an atheist. He was a religious man and a self identified Christian. He even attributed his escaping of so many assassination attempts and survival on the battlefield to God's favor.

  • @Rockguitarnow no christian ever killed as many as hitler? I can name one. Hitler I think that's your argument absolutely destroyed, go get an education. oh crusades spanish inquisition war more war a bit more war members of the KKK yeah, you sure are a peaceful religion
  • When people go to jail they often have nothing in life, they lost all hope, so they embrace religion to help them redeem themselves.

    Atheists aren't less likely to commit a crime. It is that when they go to jail, they are highly likely to embrace religion for help. That's why the statistics look that way.

    Christ taught to obey the law and be non-violent. Moses Ten Commandments are the basis for almost every civilized society's present-day set of laws.

  • @Rockguitarnow actually, while many people do convert within prisons, the truth lies right there in the video.

    They're too scared to say that they're atheists, for some part.

    But that doesn't change that, for the most part, religions and so much more likely to breed criminals than atheists, because atheists are taught to think and not always believe they are right.

  • Studies show that higher IQ people have fewer children too. This is because the more a person studies hard sciences and neglects personal friendships and family life, the less likely they will have time for children and a family.

    The term "higher IQ" as rated in our society simply means studying the hard sciences. It says nothing about happiness, friendships or family life.

    The Nazi party was pagan atheist, and when they took over Germany in the 1930s they increased the IQ level of Germany.

  • @Rockguitarnow Higher IQ people have less children because they practice safe sex, plan out their pregnancies, and don't have children outside of their economic means.

    High IQ has nothing to do with scientific knowledge. IQ tests assess a person's analytical and pattern matching skills. You don't need an education or a background in science to score high.

    The Nazis were Christians. Their attire and propaganda included phrases like "Gott mit uns" (God with us). They were not atheists or pagans.

  • @Rockguitarnow nazi party was christian.

    No such thing as pagan atheist, just like there are no islamic christians.

    Now shut up you unicorn monkey (see I can make up terms too :D )

    IQ is reasoning skill, nothing to do with intelligence. A four year old can take an IQ test and score 200+ (100 being average) due to the way it's designed.

    Academia and logical thinking are two separate things. Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

    You've clearly never taken an IQ test

  • @SamdeSquirell IQ has nothing to do with intelligence?? IQ = intellignece quotinet. You are also next "expert", arent you? Intelligence means to solve problems, to recognise patterns, to have a memory, solve problems never encountered before. First get educated. Then post on youtube. (I have a feeling you are religulous, stupid posts are like that)

  • @J0EH3AD ok. Prejudice, lack of intelligence, the fact you annoy me and the fact you spend about as much time reading posts as you do looking up IQ, aside:

    I've taken IQ tests, they're about reasoning. You never learn that stuff in higher sciences like Rockguitarnow said. I said it is a reasoning skill, and more to do with logic than intelligence.

    Intelligence, in the context, meant academia.

    Anyway. you're just trolling for attention. The post was months ago.

    I'm extremely atheist, so you know.

  • I agree that he made an incredibly valid point and I will also agree that I was quick to be critical and point the finger, but even so my original point still stands:

    This data, while possibly not showing ALL of its results, is not purposely deceiving the viewers in order to make a point (as per the definition of "skewed"

    I am serious, a quick look into Goggle's search engine will clear all of this up and more; most of this stuff is common knowledge.

  • I don't have the time either as I am a teacher, and I do this on my spare time. Leaving comments only takes a minute or two. There is really nothing debate, Im just pointing out the facts of the matter and the fuzzy math.

  • Very very skewed misrepresented data.

  • Okay then, can you you please provide YOUR data and its correct representation?

    Because certainly, to make such a comment must mean that you know SO much more than any of us in this subject and that you've done TONS of research on the subject, right?

    But then, certainly someone who has done TONS of research on this subject to know that the data is "skewed" and "misrepresented" would post proof?

    Why so little in your comment?

    Either post up evidence, or STFU & GTFO.

  • Its simple statical evidence. 1) there are no sources attributed to the data. There are two very weak sources used, one used for a quote and the other to a vague study. 2) the stats are misrepresented because there are millions more Religious people than Atheists in the US so therefore the percentages as presented would naturally be higher in proving the videos point.

    But without sources there is no real way to validate any of the data presented.

  • To examine just the number presented

    1) The percentages in the first frame don't add up to 100% (94.3%)

    2) The USA prison stats don't add up to 100% (84%)

    3) In the Gen pop Vs. Prison pop the stats don' add up to 100% (59.2% gen pop, 77.1% prison pop) and assuming the video is talking about the US, these numbers dont add up with the numbers from the first 2 groups given

    4) Looking at the vague percentages in the Intellectual section of the video it can also be shown that the numbers dont add up

  • You make a valid point: the numbers DON'T add up. But again, this does not constitute the data being skewed in the slightest.

    In most surveys, there is is the option of Unknown (which is different from other) or holds no belief. Naturally, when making a video about the correlation between religion and atheism, as this person (and probably her sources) is trying to do, the other categories are ignored for the sake of simplicity, but this only ignores results which have no bearing on discussion.

  • It sure does mean the data is skewed. In all valid surveys the numbers must always add up to 100% this is true will all statistics. There must also be a +/- margin of error for the data to be valid, there is no room for the unknown in statistics. If you look at any polling data or statistical data and add it up its always going to net 100%.

  • @MrShimasaki there are other religions and answers possible for religious beliefs than the few he displayed. That's where the discrepancy in percentages lies.

  • I do agree with you on the fact that the video maker should have put up the sources she was getting her information from, but these statistics are generally the same everywhere. A short trip into google's search engine verifies most of this.

    But even so, that is no excuse to say that the data is misrepresented or skewed. To make these claims one would have to have acess to unaltered data that runs contrary to what is being presented here, data you do not seem to have, or even look for.

  • It sure is a reason to say the data is misrepresented and skewed. Even when looking at data from the web you must look at the sources. If the source can be seen as biased in any fashion then the data is skewed and misrepresented. To make the claims I'm making all you have to do is add and compare with the other figures claiming the same thing. If there is no citation of the sources present the whole thing becomes suspect.

  • I guess he STFU'ed & GTFO'ed.

  • Ha ha, very funny. I will admit that a good point was made and that I acted rashly, but the point still stands.

    Besides, I'm a college student. I don't have all the time in the world to have a debate on Youtube during the school week.

    If you want to continue this debate, so be it, but realize that I will only rarely reply outside of weekly increments.

  • I only disagree with one point you make. The non-religious aren't a "small minority". The 14% in the US comes out to be about one in every seven people. That's a way bigger minority then say blacks or jews for example. It's just almost impossible to get them organized.

  • While the non-religious people make up 14% of America, only 0.2% of people are Atheists or Agnostics. Those are the people she specifically labels as a "small minority." The others may include babies, people who generally haven't thought about it, Buddists, etc (I think)

    But yes, I do agree with you that it is nigh impossible to get them organized, but if and when we do, we'll take this world by storm and finally cast out the serpent known as "religion" from our little garden called "Earth"

    (:

  • she's very convincing..i faved her "why religion saddens me"..it's just amazing..:D

  • by those prison stats do you mean by what they were RAISED or what they are PRACTICING??? Two TOTALLY different things... so much for prejudice. I will go on believing in God till YOU or ANY other Atheist can prove tome he does nto exist.

  • the stats are not offered as proof against a god, just against the claims that religion offers morality and that atheists chose against religion so they can be immoral.

    Go ahead an believe in god, just don't be a bigoted retard, OK?

  • Again, the stats are not accurate because I assume that they count Baptized or raised believers, not those practicing. And I will stand by what I said: No good arguments in favor of atheism or the abolition of organized religion. Sorry to you and who ever made the video.

  • Ok, so CONVERTED atheists are awesome. I'm sure that makes you feel better. I maintain no good arguments for religion and evidence that getting rid of it will keep you and your kids out of jail.

  • no, my point is the people the author is counting as believers in Jail are probablely not practicing theists. They either converted to atheism or simply turned their back on God. I have a disturbing quote from a Nazi official yuo may like, but I need to find it.

  • @cheesemonkey1990 The purpose of the video was not to try to tell you what to believe. It was to illustrate that Atheist are not the threat they've been made out to be.

    And to the author. Thanks for making this video!

  • OMG! Look at the muslim stat around 1:00

  • The first video of yours that I saw was "Why Religion Saddens me" last night. No matter how much I've learned or loved, it's still the thorn in my heart. Subbed.

  • It does amaze me, after living in Japan for four years, that serial killing is such an alien concept to them.

    Shinto Buddhism, the Japanese believe system, is more ritual then solidified dogma

  • it is all about enighetnment and supression of all emotions, I know. They don't have a diety either but it goes against human nature.

  • Christians claim atheists are undermining freedom in America. Mike Huckabee, one of the christian fundamentalists celebrated heroes, pardoned a man while he was governor of Arkansas, and that same man is now in the news for going on a shooting spree. It is the christian activists who are threatening freedom. Mike Huckabee may be part of a conspiracy that uses felons to carry out political dirty work. Why did he pardon this murderer? Christians want to make us all slaves to their imaginary god.

  • Its always great to find people who got real facts. And this makes me happy to live in apparently the most atheistic country in the world. Religion has like no influence here. I love it. Look at the video atheist paradise by salladsdressing.

  • Excellent video.

    I live in Mexico.

    Here the people are primarily Catholic, and public non believers are generally considered a shame on your family and are ostracised.

    The irony is that I would say 90% of the people do not believe anyway, they are just too scared to say so.

    Fortunately the education system is excellent (much better than the US or UK) and so the young people are growing up with less of this fear and are speaking out without fear.

    Education is the key.

  • Good video. I agree with a couple of people who commented a few months ago in that it would be even better if the sources for the statistics and the numerous "studies" were included. But I'm not inclined to disagree with any of your conclusions. I'm an agnostic former Jehovah's Witness.

  • I should have known this right from the start.

  • Very good video.

  • Great Video!!!

    Loved the Song -  well done!!!

  • I hate to rain on the parade but "no religion" is not the same as atheist or agnostic.

    In the last Pew survey in July of 2009 on science, 16 percent of the general population identified themselves as having "no religion" but only 4% said they were atheist or agnostic.

    Still 4% is a whole lot bigger than 0.2%.

  • Yes, it is. People's identification of their religion does determine their religion, but their identification of their lack of belief can be classified under atheist if they lack belief in a diety whether or not they define themselves as one. Atheism is the lack of belief in a God.

  • Wow, seems you are doing exactly what the watchtower does. that is, have a preconceived idea and then find evidence for it. Even changing the evidence that states the contrary. Einstein said that the more he studied Science the more he became convinced that there was an intelligent design behind all of creation. Einstein does not seem to fit into your statistic of those who believe in God have lower IQ's...hmmm, can you explain that?

  • einstein is one person who im guessing wasn't surveyed and if he was the results would have been about the same

  • classicaldale, Please provide me with the actual quote from Einstein & the source to confirm. Otherwise you're just blowing hot air. Even if he did use those words, it doesn't refer to a personal God or Christian God. From what I've read of Einstein & his quotes, he did not believe in a personal God or a supreme "being" with intelligence. Rather he viewed nature itself as the creative force - Spinoza's concept of "God", which is not an intelligent being who bothers with human affairs.

  • so lets see... the reason most of u r prlbably athiests is cuz u wanted ur religion to do something for u or u lost something u loved... and u wondered wut kind of loving god would allow that to happen... well im christian. always will b. and if u believe ur an athiest just becuz of that one question up there... then ur obviously not i listen to what athiests have to say, i ponder what they say, and i respect them for saying that, but seriously go purchase a book entitled, god does not love me

  • "Godless atheist" is akin to "featherless snake". :)

    I'm just a plain atheist, I don't need to double up :P

  • People like to call North Korea 'Communist', and 'Atheist'.

    This ignores the Cult of Personality that is used to 'legitimize' the Great Leader, or Dear leader, or High exalted Grand Poobah or whatever other ridiculous title they are using this week.

    It also ignores the passing of the torch of leadership from father to son over three generations.

    I think that North Korea's political system has more in common with the God Kings of ancient Egypt than with Communism.

    And Atheists are anti-dogma.

  • It is almost impossible to argue against raw numbers like that

    good work

  • Apparently you don't talk to many Christians. :P

  • Are you actually trying to make a point or just disagreeing with me on principle?

  • Thank you very much for the stats. I see you also are a fan of Richard Dawkins.

  • Only some of the American media is trying to promote rational thinking, watch news on Fox or O'Reilly factor if you want to see who panders to the creationists.

  • How can it be 78% christian population in America when the country's own media is dominated by blasphemies against Christianity, sex and violence. And schools also teach evolution as fact...its like saying that TV and public schools absolutely promote creationism while the overwhelming majority of the population are atheist....these statistics are absolutely false....biggest lie in the history of mankind..

  • The majority of schools do teach evolution. There are only a few states which try to teach both. The majority of Americans do not believe in Intelligent design. There are just some areas that have a higher number of crackpots. Evangelicals do not make up the entire population.

  • evolution is a fact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • The reason the world seems so "atheist" is because most religious people ARE NO DIFFERENT than atheists. They have the same sexual drives, the same morality, the same everything. Some just use their religion as an excuse to do stupid shit. My family damn-near shunned me for being atheist. They don't treat me the same. It's like I'm a murderer. I'm one of the nicest guys you'll ever talk to or ask for help. They are afraid because I do not back down. I don't let them "scare the hell out of me."

  • Because Christians are hypocrits that don't practice what they preach. How many people like Kent Hovind, Ted Haggard, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim and Tammy Fae Baker do you need to see before you get it? Oh and let's not forget the THOUSANDS of child rapists in the clergy. Religion is a cancer, the greatest cancer mankind has ever known. The cure is knowledge, reason and education.

  • @FlyingFree333 If christians are hypocrites, then who was Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Enver Hoxha. The best estimates are that between 5,000 and 10,000 were killed in the Spanish Inquisition. That’s compared with 100 million who were killed in the atheist purges of the twentieth century. There has been enough Killing on both sides. "THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE"

  • You're only saying that because your overactive religious mind picks out every single thing and finds something bad about it because you need to feel better about your own morality that you are insecure with.

    Evolution is a fact.

  • Also fro the wiki:

    Kim Jong-il's official biography[6] states that he was born in a secret military camp on Baekdu Mountain (백두산) in northern Korea on 16 February 1942.[7] Official biographers claim that his birth at Baekdu Mountain was foretold by a swallow, and heralded by the appearance of a double rainbow over the mountain and a new star in the heavens.

  • They are a "Nectocracy " according to Christopher Hitchens, who was in North Korea, essentially following a dead ruler. Sounds religious to me.

  • First of all, know your first commandment,

    Second of all, Religion? What about "biblical christianity", and not a given religion like catholics, mormons, etc. How about just the belief in Jesus (Christ), and not on a religion. If all those religious people accepted Jesus as their personal savior, their lives would be so much different and they would be worshipping God all the time, without being in any way part of these stats.

  • This vid says it all! Congrats for putting it out- a more secular society is what we all need. Increasingly, religion is the domain of the uneducated- perhaps the violence we are seeing these days is part of a backlash as it receedes into the past where it belongs- don't hold your breath though!

  • Are you sure that only .2 percent of the prisoners are atheists? Sounds a little weird to me. Dont get me wrong, Im atheist myself..im just wondering

  • Wow! This is bad.

    Since their are mostly Christians and Catholics in the US, wouldn't it be logical that they'd dominate the prisons aswell?

    Think people!

  • the jews have the highest IQ but are religious,

  • Isreal has the 18th or 19th highest concentration of atheists. Jews having the highest IQ is a misconception,

  • The highest 4 countries on the list are Asian with low religion levels, South Korea is the smartest by the last statistics I saw, in stark contrast to their crazy religious northern neighbors.

  • North Korea has 64.31% atheist.. while South Korea has 47%....N Korea was even reported prosecuting Christians severely....crime has nothing to do with religion.

  • North Korea is under the leadership of someone who thinks he is God. So get your shit straight.

  • Obviously that guy's a human being....u referred to statistics....and statistics say that 64% are atheist....the people call him a leader not a god....get ur shit straight and stop lying atheist....and u atheist say that america is only 14% atheist then how come ur media is full of blasphemies and filth that is alien to most foreign countries....that wouldn't be possible if 78% of the country were devout Christians....

  • I'm not American, Candian's are roughly 30% atheist. According to Zuckerman, 2005, South Korea is 30-52% Atheist while North Korea is 15% Atheist. But you should read about Kim Jong Il. His coming was fortold by a star, blah, blah, etc.etc. So quote your source or shut up.

  • i cant even find a link showing 15% atheist in North korea.However Wikipedia implies that 64% of North Koreans are atheist...it also states that According to Human Rights Watch, free religious activities no longer exist in North Korea as the government sponsors religious groups only to create an ILLUSION of religious freedom...Communism denies religion.....i have found nothing on the internet suggesting the population regards him as a god...pls quote your sources or shut up...

  • Source: Zuckerman, 2005 for atheism statistics.

    From the Wiki:

    President Kim Il-sung died 8 July 1994, at age 82 of a heart attack. He was not replaced as President, and received the designation of "Eternal President", resting in the Kumsusan Memorial Palace in central Pyongyang. The active position has been abolished in deference to the memory of Kim Il-sung.

  • good video, but would be made better if you included sources either in the video or in the description

  • Good video! would you please consider listing your sources for the stats in the video information if you make another video like this in the future. It would help make it more concrete.

  • I'd just like to say.

    I LOVE ALL YOUR VIDEOS!

  • Thanks for the... decent defense ... Van coffee chick??

  • valid point....biggotry of atheists and prejudices is wrong and has no place in our soceity....however the data doesnt entirely backup this....take for instance the prison stats....many people are known to turn to religion as a form of solace while in jail....also the serial killer statistics are very unsubstantiated

  • For serial killer you may want to substitute the term sociopath. In the DSM (diagnosis of mental disorders) religion is one of the indicators. It simply is a fact that the really crazy types are usually ultra religious and are often working under direct instruction from god in all his fire and brimstone glory. Brain scans reveal that religious faith and schizophrenia are related. In fact some anti psychotic drugs stop or reduce religious beliefs. Prison stats may also reflect education.

  • as far as serial killers go, here are some examples...

    ED GEIN

    "Augusta Gein (mother), a fervent Lutheran, drummed into her boys the innate immorality of the world, the evil of drink and the belief that all women (herself excluded) were prostitutes and instruments of the devil."

    "She reserved time every afternoon to read to them from the Bible, usually selecting graphic verses from the Old Testament dealing with death, murder and divine retribution."