i justa want to let everyone know that there is a video on youtube of this crash from inside the plane. there was a pilot and a co-pilot who had gotten in the back, he put a small fire out before he exited. you should all see it, its really cool
You paid for your PPL on 1000 bucks a month? I know PPLs are cheaper in the states, but doesn't this sound a bit unlikely unless you still live with your mum? Sorry, mom.
You got your PPL as janitor? Ok I didnt imagine that, and I have say Good for you, and yea i was wrong about that. But I still think you unfairly classified simulators, and most of them at least know alittle something. Thats why we spend our free ground time on the computer. Its more practice than playing a game, at least for me. But maybe im just wrong about everything.. i dunno ..who cares, im sorry man, I cant believe your a janitor, awesome :)
I love to read the comments made by the "professional pilots" on you tube . the comments usually start something like " Well I flew the X-56 to three hundred thousand feet back in 1951 and then i flew 747 jumbo jets for Monkeywrench airlines for the next 60 years so I have eight hundred million hours of experience in the "heavy iron". I get a kick out of these remarks (they are no harm but are amusing) I personally could not fly a turd out of a toilet but i like airplanes of all kinds.
Excellent landing under the circumstances, new paint on bottom and new propellors and oh yeah a good steam cleaning of the interior to remove the giant TURDS!!!!!!!!!!!
good job, would have been perfect if he'd cut the fuel before touchdown. That might have saved the engines. But anyway you're not supposed to think of that. ;-)
@1000flightlevel You can't feather the props of a piston-powered airplane. I guarantee you those props were just windmilling and the engines were off. Also, there was no fire. I'm sure you feel like Mr. Smarty Pants.
@TheGimpMaster01 Actually, that is not true. I saw a pilot dead-stick a twin engined Piper Apache after he held the nose up until both props stopped on the compression stroke, then he hit the starter until the props were parallel to the wing. He then glided in to a soft landing in grass between runways 31R and 31L at St. Louis Lambert Field in June 1970. The pilot was ex-Navy named Jack Williamson.
@Sundogjeep I didn't say one couldn't stop the propellers from spinning, I only said that one can't feather the prop of a piston engine. So, what you say is definitely true and believable, but doesn't change the definition of feathering a prop.
@TheGimpMaster01 The sad ending to that story was that the Apache was in beautiful condition and as Jack stood there noting that he only bent the antenae on the bottom of the fuselage in the wet grass, an airport fire/rescue truck slid in the grass and crashed into the otherwise undamaged Apache. Government coming to the rescue again, I suppose. : )
@Sundogjeep That's definitely unfortunate! Not only did he manage to avoid having to overhaul the engines, but a landing on a grass runway would certainly save most of the skin on the bottom. Gotta feel bad for a guy who saves a plane only to be mauled by the rescuers... Of course, doesn't the government know best?
@TheGimpMaster01 Okay, I'll bite, as I have 9 hrs multi-piston and 4,300 hrs command time in Lear Jets...WHY can't one feather a prop on a piston engine?
@Sundogjeep Typically, in a piston engine (especially twins), the feathering mechanism works by sensing a drop in oil pressure, at which point the prop controls must be pulled all the way back. Looking back at your earlier comment, I completely misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you meant the Apache pilot lost engine power, which kept the gear from dropping... Oops. Without sufficient oil pressure, I didn't think one could feather the prop.
@TheGimpMaster01 Okay, I got ya now. The Apache incident was a total gear lock in the up position. And really, I don't know squat about constant speed props and such. I only had 860 hrs when I went to Lear school at EJA in Columbus Ohio, so except for the 9 hrs in multi, everything else was fixed pitch, that's why I got confused.
@volcom1722 you kidding? it was textbook emergency, no-gear landing... he cut the fuel and stopped the engine power as the belly touched. got out very quickly.... didn't get a scratch on them.
@JusticeSevenfold Most of us understand that this was an EXCELLENT job by the pilot; however, there are those that are Flight Sim X/ chair pilots who think they know how it works in real life.
@JCH0720 I think armchair pilots know more about airplanes and flying than you. I know I do. Cause im not just a chair pilot im also a student pilot. And I use fsx all the time to train and learn more about aircraft. So just cause the simulator isnt actually real, doesnt mean you know more about aviation. Understand that?
@JCH0720 I never said you were talking out of your ass, im saying you are an ass, like most rich ppl jerks. I bet you have your own plane and fly around just for fun. Im paying for my instrument rating by working in a kitchen pal, and simulating on the side. And thats all i had 4 years when i was 20, so why dont you leave the fs9 and fsx people alone, cause maybe they like flying as much as you , they just dont have money to do it for real, ok Captain?
@64804jonjon Once again, you are wrong. I am a janitor at a school. I make like a 1000 bucks a month and am in college. I paid for my PPL myself, and all expenses after that. Good luck!
what an amazing pilot calm under pressure and brilliant flying when it was needed the most. Props to you and they managed to walk away with jackets in hand :-)
haha i get what you mean, if i am not wrong ur trying to say that all the people whom talked as if they knew ''everything to land a plane perfectly'' am i right?
He should've turned the plane into a glider, if the propellers would hit the ground the blades could have come flying into the cabin, killing or injuring passengers.
could an expert tell me why not proceed the emergency landing on the grass in this case?
I wonder the risk is less than on the concrete strip.
Gazsoka66 8 hours ago
@Gazsoka66 Most Of the time, the airport puts a white liquid to runway to minimise friction of the metal and the runway
ExpertPlane101 32 minutes ago
would it not have been better to land on the grass?
killerpigeon347 17 hours ago
wow, this guy did not cut the engines on short final and props slammed into the runway. Both engines are gone.
plsniper 23 hours ago
Some Far23 airplanes have some kind of manual way to deploy the landing gear. Seems that this gear was completely stuck then...
wwwd1fcom 1 day ago
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i justa want to let everyone know that there is a video on youtube of this crash from inside the plane. there was a pilot and a co-pilot who had gotten in the back, he put a small fire out before he exited. you should all see it, its really cool
RealPilotFSX 3 days ago
textbook. awesome job
emkay4597 3 days ago
One person installed the landing gear
JmackDaddyFunk 3 days ago
You paid for your PPL on 1000 bucks a month? I know PPLs are cheaper in the states, but doesn't this sound a bit unlikely unless you still live with your mum? Sorry, mom.
Milkpipe 4 days ago
@Milkpipe long ago, the forgotten skill of reading was taught in schools.
Maybe you should ask your mum for some lessons.
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He said "I make like a 1000 bucks a month and am in college...."
thesurfsflat 3 days ago
are the engines shut off before touchdown? (as in is it best practice to shut of engines before touchdown to avoid excess damage?)
ausdave555 4 days ago
Hard landing. not so good
Kujo226 4 days ago
Excellent landing. Damn landing gear
hexseeker 5 days ago
amazing landing props to the pilot
dragoonfj123 5 days ago
was it a landing gear failure?
DroopyFuture18 5 days ago
You got your PPL as janitor? Ok I didnt imagine that, and I have say Good for you, and yea i was wrong about that. But I still think you unfairly classified simulators, and most of them at least know alittle something. Thats why we spend our free ground time on the computer. Its more practice than playing a game, at least for me. But maybe im just wrong about everything.. i dunno ..who cares, im sorry man, I cant believe your a janitor, awesome :)
64804jonjon 5 days ago
Fire services are a bit slow...no?
nksharpshooter 6 days ago
does feather a prop mean to cut off engine and stop propellor from turning?
fendertelecaster8225 6 days ago
I love to read the comments made by the "professional pilots" on you tube . the comments usually start something like " Well I flew the X-56 to three hundred thousand feet back in 1951 and then i flew 747 jumbo jets for Monkeywrench airlines for the next 60 years so I have eight hundred million hours of experience in the "heavy iron". I get a kick out of these remarks (they are no harm but are amusing) I personally could not fly a turd out of a toilet but i like airplanes of all kinds.
fendertelecaster8225 6 days ago
Excellent landing under the circumstances, new paint on bottom and new propellors and oh yeah a good steam cleaning of the interior to remove the giant TURDS!!!!!!!!!!!
fendertelecaster8225 6 days ago
good job, would have been perfect if he'd cut the fuel before touchdown. That might have saved the engines. But anyway you're not supposed to think of that. ;-)
AeroflySimDE 1 week ago
Should have out it in the grass
overlandpark6me 1 week ago
yes in all a good job however the pilot should have featherd the porp's and shut the fuel off thu avoding the fire
1000flightlevel 2 weeks ago
@1000flightlevel You can't feather the props of a piston-powered airplane. I guarantee you those props were just windmilling and the engines were off. Also, there was no fire. I'm sure you feel like Mr. Smarty Pants.
TheGimpMaster01 1 week ago
@TheGimpMaster01 Actually, that is not true. I saw a pilot dead-stick a twin engined Piper Apache after he held the nose up until both props stopped on the compression stroke, then he hit the starter until the props were parallel to the wing. He then glided in to a soft landing in grass between runways 31R and 31L at St. Louis Lambert Field in June 1970. The pilot was ex-Navy named Jack Williamson.
Sundogjeep 1 week ago
@Sundogjeep I didn't say one couldn't stop the propellers from spinning, I only said that one can't feather the prop of a piston engine. So, what you say is definitely true and believable, but doesn't change the definition of feathering a prop.
TheGimpMaster01 1 week ago
@TheGimpMaster01 The sad ending to that story was that the Apache was in beautiful condition and as Jack stood there noting that he only bent the antenae on the bottom of the fuselage in the wet grass, an airport fire/rescue truck slid in the grass and crashed into the otherwise undamaged Apache. Government coming to the rescue again, I suppose. : )
Sundogjeep 1 week ago
@Sundogjeep That's definitely unfortunate! Not only did he manage to avoid having to overhaul the engines, but a landing on a grass runway would certainly save most of the skin on the bottom. Gotta feel bad for a guy who saves a plane only to be mauled by the rescuers... Of course, doesn't the government know best?
TheGimpMaster01 1 week ago
@TheGimpMaster01 Okay, I'll bite, as I have 9 hrs multi-piston and 4,300 hrs command time in Lear Jets...WHY can't one feather a prop on a piston engine?
Sundogjeep 1 week ago
@Sundogjeep Typically, in a piston engine (especially twins), the feathering mechanism works by sensing a drop in oil pressure, at which point the prop controls must be pulled all the way back. Looking back at your earlier comment, I completely misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you meant the Apache pilot lost engine power, which kept the gear from dropping... Oops. Without sufficient oil pressure, I didn't think one could feather the prop.
TheGimpMaster01 1 week ago
@Sundogjeep But lol, why am I telling you all this crap? You know more about it than I do!
TheGimpMaster01 1 week ago
@TheGimpMaster01 Okay, I got ya now. The Apache incident was a total gear lock in the up position. And really, I don't know squat about constant speed props and such. I only had 860 hrs when I went to Lear school at EJA in Columbus Ohio, so except for the 9 hrs in multi, everything else was fixed pitch, that's why I got confused.
Thanks for taking the time...
Sundogjeep 1 week ago
wooow ive never really flown before, i am a future pilot, and lemme say that was an outstanding emergency landing. =)
Drpepperman1885 2 weeks ago
Looks like it was a successful emergency landing!
Helicopterpilot16 1 month ago
Do you think the second passenger got soaked?
RealJafaika 1 month ago 19
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citroeno 1 week ago
@citroeno chill dude
RealJafaika 1 week ago
@RealJafaika there's an in cockpit/cabin video of this crash landing, do some searching around and you'll find the video
TheYozStudios 15 hours ago
I'm just sayin
planewire2153 2 months ago
hey! seems like this is the outside view of this video: /watch?v=myILKfQG364 ... interesting to see both perspectives!
TheVesas 2 months ago
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4crevis 2 weeks ago
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@TheVesas Wow yeah... amazing!
4crevis 2 weeks ago
he did well no harm done i would have done the same and hoped like the pilot seen here it landed smooth and no fire well done
kz4506 2 months ago
Was poor piloting skills that crashed plane though in a situation like that how can you think
planewire2153 2 months ago
@planewire2153 stfu...
acnespider 2 months ago
@planewire2153 the landing gear didn't deploy because of the pilot? so its the pilot's fault?
happyturtle18 1 month ago
umb, there wasnt a grass landing area?
Yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhh 2 months ago
@Yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhh if he would have landed on grass, he would have crashed a lot harder
Phil1480 2 months ago
he just tore up there runway with his crap plane
eman20083421 2 months ago
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volcom1722 2 months ago
@volcom1722 you kidding? it was textbook emergency, no-gear landing... he cut the fuel and stopped the engine power as the belly touched. got out very quickly.... didn't get a scratch on them.
JusticeSevenfold 2 months ago
@JusticeSevenfold Most of us understand that this was an EXCELLENT job by the pilot; however, there are those that are Flight Sim X/ chair pilots who think they know how it works in real life.
JCH0720 2 months ago 36
@JCH0720 heh good point
JusticeSevenfold 2 months ago
@JCH0720 I think armchair pilots know more about airplanes and flying than you. I know I do. Cause im not just a chair pilot im also a student pilot. And I use fsx all the time to train and learn more about aircraft. So just cause the simulator isnt actually real, doesnt mean you know more about aviation. Understand that?
64804jonjon 5 days ago
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JCH0720 5 days ago
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JCH0720 5 days ago
@64804jonjon You're a student pilot? Good. I'm a licensed private pilot, with just under 100 hrs. So i'm not talking out of my ass.
JCH0720 5 days ago
@JCH0720 I never said you were talking out of your ass, im saying you are an ass, like most rich ppl jerks. I bet you have your own plane and fly around just for fun. Im paying for my instrument rating by working in a kitchen pal, and simulating on the side. And thats all i had 4 years when i was 20, so why dont you leave the fs9 and fsx people alone, cause maybe they like flying as much as you , they just dont have money to do it for real, ok Captain?
64804jonjon 5 days ago
@64804jonjon Once again, you are wrong. I am a janitor at a school. I make like a 1000 bucks a month and am in college. I paid for my PPL myself, and all expenses after that. Good luck!
JCH0720 5 days ago
there is also a video of this crash taken from inside the plane (THUMBS THIS UP)
it's a cessna 402 i believe. in the video you can see the landing, the videographer extinguishing a small fire, and hopping out.
DiamondPilotDan 2 months ago 2
@tazztt1 they said the landing gears wouldnt deploy, wat else can you beside crash land?
tru3prodigy 3 months ago
I would have put the landing gear down first, jus sayin'.
tazztt1 4 months ago
@tazztt1 .... it was a landing gear failure..
DiamondPilotDan 2 months ago
@DiamondPilotDan... just finding a little humor in the blinding obvious 'Diamond Dan'
tazztt1 2 months ago
@tazztt1 gotchaa
DiamondPilotDan 2 months ago
what an amazing pilot calm under pressure and brilliant flying when it was needed the most. Props to you and they managed to walk away with jackets in hand :-)
me4u 4 months ago
everyone on youtube is an expert at landing planes apparently
IamMANMANMAN 4 months ago 2
@IamMANMANMAN
haha i get what you mean, if i am not wrong ur trying to say that all the people whom talked as if they knew ''everything to land a plane perfectly'' am i right?
jeeivan19 4 months ago
@IamMANMANMAN beautiful comment <33
DiamondPilotDan 2 months ago
He should've turned the plane into a glider, if the propellers would hit the ground the blades could have come flying into the cabin, killing or injuring passengers.
datapad 6 months ago
@datapad The engines probably were killed, but the props will just windmill if they are fixed pitch
tjohn6041 3 months ago
@tjohn6041 constant speed on almost all twins
DiamondPilotDan 2 months ago
@DiamondPilotDan Very true
tjohn6041 2 months ago
landing on the grass would not be safer, easier to flip
rjason182 9 months ago
ati thsi pount I would have landed on the grass
Gian092 11 months ago
@Gian092
lol terrible spelling, *at this point
Gian092 11 months ago
with gears it could be better xD
orangman68 1 year ago
@orangman68 idiot
marklins1 3 months ago