wow i never even realized that this was a FULL half hour show!! i only seen the 4 min seg where they were in the crash! this was a VERY sad story and tragic but VERY informative on what could really happen in situations like this! :/
I couldnt agree more with what that woman said she should of died! The grieving I wouldnt of put up with that shit from the kids father. Its the daughters fault not the fathers he should of smacked him in the mouth.
For some who see how they're treated as "uncalled for," the reason for it was to show the conseqences of Cassie's actions. It not only affects her and the people who were killed and their families, but also the family of Cassie.
consequences: plural of con·se·quence
Noun: A result or effect of an action or condition.
Just realize, everyone, that just because your teen ager has not been caught, or had an accident, does NOT mean they are better than Cassie. If they are doing what she was doing, and it's a good bet they are, then it's just sheer dumb luck that they are still alive.
Hate is a wasted emotion. Forgiveness is freeing. And just remember, There but for the grace of God go I. Or your children. Tomorrow it could very well be you.
She was not drunk, as I'm sure everyone knows by now. If people stop and think, if she was breathalized but there was no alcohol in her system, the officer must have had good reason. Perhaps it was her friends that had the alcohol.
Yes, her friends were not coerced into being in th car with her. Everyone knows teenagers will get easily distracted. They think they are invincible, immune to danger.
This is a general letter I would write to all the people treating this girl and her family like they were public enemy #1.
To whom it may concern: Do you know where your children are at this moment?
What if this were your child? You know, it very well could be. Cassie Cowan is a normal teen age girl. She made a big mistake. She must pay society for what happened, but no one is going to punish her more than she will punish herself. After all, two of the victims were her best friends.
This film, on my reflecting further, takes me back to the time when as a young teenager going on 20 my parents thought of me as not responsible enough to drive by myself. My father even at one point said that he would alert the Ministry to deny me a license, much as I wasn't out to be careless at any point. [Not until nearly age 23 did my family entrust their car to me to drive any substantial distance - and Mother had to be overridden by Father and sibling (she still despised me as a "baby")]
Obviously, this was NOT a case of my having telephone access at the time, or turning up a radio: no, they just thought I was incapable of keeping my attention on the road - something I'm proud to have proved them wrong upon. It was other things yours truly had to learn, though most fortunately NOT at the cost of anybody's property other than that of my family - and most certainly not with injuring, let alone, killing anybody.
That said: the question is if these parents realised how (Ctd.)
downright irresponsible their daughter Cassie happened to be - and even if she was OK when alone or with them, it's hard to predict just how wild these adolescents can be when it's a group of them. [Granted that this is a fictional tale (though most of it is based upon actual reality for certain!!!), it's still an interesting study and something in itself to beware of. No less so given how they were angry at Jules' boyfriend for apparently rejecting her when she got pregnant thanks to him!]
In fact, regarding him (the boyfriend), did he just change because he thought he could get away with it and pretend to be Mr. Decent when he heard his sweetheart was no more - i.e., a display of hypocrisy?
Otherwise, the policeman who breathalysed Cassie would have done well to deprive her of her license on the basis of the group's rowdy behaviour - that way, none of this would have occurred! Otherwise, how would the community have felt if the Cowans took the extreme action of suicide?
[All this being after the displays of hatred and bitterness manifested not only by the victims' relatives but fellow-patients, work-colleagues, etc. In any event, the question is raised because in some cultures (e.g., Japan), the people there are inculcated to feel it necessary to perform personal atonement even through suicide.] Even if all three of them did so, it wouldn't ever bring back the other people killed in the accident; it wouldn't assuage the communal and individual grief one bit!
All that any such extreme reactions would do - in addition to possibly being unjust to the parents - would be to disgrace the community.
Of course, those people involved would have to move (probably very far away) and perhaps change their identities; however, spray-painting grafitti on their garage-door is not that much better than, say, murdering one of the family, or burning their house down with them inside.
Sorry to be so loquacious, but these are the thoughts that came to me...
Before we start making step by step analysis of this program, let's remember that it was only a film and the characters were actors. The reactions of people after the crash was very likely to be extreme with angered emotions. That doesn't mean to say that everyone would respond in that way. It was a short film meant to be as hard hitting as possible. Having said that, I bet some people will still text and chat on their mobiles while driving , because they'll think that it won't happen to them.
death toll does not compute. Two girls and the two parents in the other car. Whatever happened to the dead infant in car #2? Isn't that 5 fatalities (not including Jules' fetus?)
im just 13 years old... i watch this alot to remund myself not to make cassie's mistake. in my opinion, cassie made a mistake and got unfair results...
I HATE hate. I mean, it was not as if she did it on purpose. I believe that if her friend's spirits could talk to their families, they would tell them to stop being such ass holes.
There is no accident in knowingly using a cellphone while driving, in knowingly performing such a dangerous act. You could use that same argument against bans on drunk driving: "It's not like he meant to mutilate Jacqueline Saburido!".
They knowingly endanger others' lives. And they know that full well. And the majority of them simply do not care. These ARE the same people who will grow up to protest BAC limits like they currently protest this.
However, you do have a point in that the parents are being overly harassed. No, they only take a small segment of the blame (what, maybe 10-15%) for not sufficiently enforcing against such dangerous action. It is Cowan herself who ultimately made the decision - even after pleading by her friends, who were in no way responsible people themselves.
I will be frank. My opinions rather mirror those of the elderly woman in the beginning of this segment. Often even in wording.
@1RadicalOne: I didn't see where either of those two girls was pleading with Cassie Cowan not to text on the cellphone or not to drive at any point in any way whatsoever! Of course, that Welsh-British accent is one I'll confess to having considerable trouble...
All the same, a most worthy film that by rights ought to be required viewing for anybody who wants to drive - and simulations where certain people actually get to feel actual pain in their bodies might not be a bad idea likewise...
@1RadicalOne: obviously making it TOO realistic would be too much; however, giving them a rough idea (obviously not as intense!) might well be worth it. Please don't forget what airline pilots go through (which is an enormous amount severer!!!), and on a far more regular basis!!! [Yet, it doesn't usually truly affect their health afterwards.]
Airline pilots are not subjected to physical trauma for the sake of it. And more, that is a more demanding task than driving. And with more severe consequences on failure.
It hardly needs to be traumatic - a mild shock like what you might get from touching a weakly-electrified farm-fence of the type used to keep livestock or dogs from crossing would suffice. Furthermore, it would happen only during driver training, as opposed to the REGULAR times the pilots have to suffer (which include things like severe cabin depressurization - that can painfully affect the ears!). Also, flying 'per se' isn't that hard - it's the perpetual preparedness for trouble that matters.
@1RadicalOne: If one's truly driving a car, you'd be COMPLETELY RIGHT - inflicting pain THEN is one of the worst possible things!!!!
That's why I was thinking of it happening when the driver is in a simulator (with the instructor). [Admittedly car-simulators probably haven't as of yet been constructed much if at all - something that would be well worth doing. Building them would be considerably cheaper to do than what are used for pilots.]
I am not sure of that...you would be forced to build a great many of them; after all, there are many times more training drivers than training pilots. That would be expensive...and the only other plausible alternative is to charge exorbitant fees for time on them.
@1RadicalOne: Good point. One thing that can help matters is the MANY cars that end up at the wreckers due to accidents!! The interiors could be easily preserved and built up to make good simulators with the addition of appropriate screens - and with seat-belts containing electrodes that would then be draped across strategic body parts. These then could be toured around given districts (in trucks or on trains) and would give everybody in training (either basic or advanced) a chance.
As to the financial side of matters: given 1) the use of existing car-parts for much of the simulators plus 2) saving of insurance-fees by the hopeful reduction of accidents, I think that the costs wouldn't be quite as high as you might think. If I'm wrong anywhere, please don't hesitate to point it out - who knows, could we (you and I) just possibly be onto something?
That is rather expensive to pull off. Perhaps even more expensive than building from scratch, since you must now design with all the constraints of the existing hardware already set.
@1RadicalOne: You well could be right. At the same time, having things mimicking a car interior that's known to people instead of something generic is what surely needs to be part of getting the experience to be as convincing as possible. If it doesn't have the extra degree of verisimiltude, people might say or think "these things won't happen to me - after all, that's not a real car they're using." [There would need to be 4 or 5 categories for each of which a simulator must be built: (C)
(C): Sub-compacts (the smallest kind of car), compact, midsize, large, SUV or pickup. Having one of each per district (say to allow a radius of 60-80 km. in each case so as to ensure accessibility) shouldn't be THAT hard to make. [Of course, some of it has to do with how absolutely elaborate one needs to make each of these simulators - somehow, my thinking is that using used parts for the basic would actually save money.]
1: Father's reaction: Giving the grief, I can understand. He should apologize later, but at the moment no.
2: Ladies reaction: Uncalled for. Even if it was her fault, the fact that she must forever live with the guilt is punishment enough.
3: Store's reaction: Not only uncalled for, but I even think illigal. I would file a lawsuit.
4: Man in Lunch Line: Uncalled for. I think he has gone through enough, considering that his daughter is in the Hospital. Especially considering that (C)
@Styles828: What's the point of #4 when she herself was cleared? Is just being breathalysed enough to deserve opprobrium, even if in conjunction with everything else? Of course, if she had even a minimal amount of alcohol, it would be different (0.02 BAL for most people CAN be like 0.2 for a child/adolescent, especially if one's petite); but it's not conclusive 'per se'. [The police should have arrested them anyway upon sensing just how irresponsible they were - that's enough cause for
license cancellation - which is why I would advocate some sort of accident simulation being required (as stated above) of people, especially if they're young!!]
Yes, a very involving story even if fictional: things like that DO happen in real life with great similarity...
very clear message there.. however i dont think the treatment that her parents got is justified too be honest.. not really very fair.. but i guess thats just life.. some people are way too judgemental
@prm4eva: Yes, some people are "way too judgemental" - however, wait until somebody kills your child under similar circumstances (even without the slightest intent, merely because of inattention of even a second), and then perhaps you'll feel differently. If ever I was cursed to be a parent or guardian, it would be FAR better to not teach or encourage an irresponsible child to drive. Even if they're taught at school, it's better then NOT to entrust them with a family vehicle - in the (C1)
(C1) worst case, it's not a bad idea to formally denounce him (or her) to the authorities (and if in a driving course, most certainly to the teachers!) if not even publicly to the whole community: that way, a parent or guardian would at least protect himself to some extent from the kind of communal retribution seen in this film. [This ties in with where some parents not only neglect their duties but see their kids with extra rose-coloured glasses.]
It's also with this purpose in mind why I believe would-be drivers - particularly those whose attitude is questionable - ought to be subjected to simulator experiences where they can even experience actual pain (not in excessive measure, but enough to give them an idea of what their mistakes could entail!) as a mandatory part of a training course!! [Not to mention that such advanced-driving courses can then teach them techniques to help them more easily avoid accidents...]
wow i never even realized that this was a FULL half hour show!! i only seen the 4 min seg where they were in the crash! this was a VERY sad story and tragic but VERY informative on what could really happen in situations like this! :/
EliteSiege1082 1 month ago
I couldnt agree more with what that woman said she should of died! The grieving I wouldnt of put up with that shit from the kids father. Its the daughters fault not the fathers he should of smacked him in the mouth.
maxheadroomsfan 1 month ago
Hey Roy, I found this (all 4 parts) and transferred them to my miscellany on my
favorites---will watch them later--thanx for telling me about this---Mom (Luv U)
janspray 2 months ago
Wow
MrFepco 3 months ago
At 4:02 I thought they didn't call car accidents "accidents" but collisions because with "accidents" implies that there is no one to blame.
MegaOrwell1984 4 months ago
For some who see how they're treated as "uncalled for," the reason for it was to show the conseqences of Cassie's actions. It not only affects her and the people who were killed and their families, but also the family of Cassie.
consequences: plural of con·se·quence
Noun: A result or effect of an action or condition.
MegaOrwell1984 4 months ago
I wish Cassie's parents had some people acting in their defense.
GremlinsandCrites 5 months ago
Just realize, everyone, that just because your teen ager has not been caught, or had an accident, does NOT mean they are better than Cassie. If they are doing what she was doing, and it's a good bet they are, then it's just sheer dumb luck that they are still alive.
Hate is a wasted emotion. Forgiveness is freeing. And just remember, There but for the grace of God go I. Or your children. Tomorrow it could very well be you.
lindalds 6 months ago
She was not drunk, as I'm sure everyone knows by now. If people stop and think, if she was breathalized but there was no alcohol in her system, the officer must have had good reason. Perhaps it was her friends that had the alcohol.
Yes, her friends were not coerced into being in th car with her. Everyone knows teenagers will get easily distracted. They think they are invincible, immune to danger.
2 b cont.
lindalds 6 months ago
This is a general letter I would write to all the people treating this girl and her family like they were public enemy #1.
To whom it may concern: Do you know where your children are at this moment?
What if this were your child? You know, it very well could be. Cassie Cowan is a normal teen age girl. She made a big mistake. She must pay society for what happened, but no one is going to punish her more than she will punish herself. After all, two of the victims were her best friends.
2 b cont.
lindalds 6 months ago
This film, on my reflecting further, takes me back to the time when as a young teenager going on 20 my parents thought of me as not responsible enough to drive by myself. My father even at one point said that he would alert the Ministry to deny me a license, much as I wasn't out to be careless at any point. [Not until nearly age 23 did my family entrust their car to me to drive any substantial distance - and Mother had to be overridden by Father and sibling (she still despised me as a "baby")]
LJBSasha 6 months ago
Obviously, this was NOT a case of my having telephone access at the time, or turning up a radio: no, they just thought I was incapable of keeping my attention on the road - something I'm proud to have proved them wrong upon. It was other things yours truly had to learn, though most fortunately NOT at the cost of anybody's property other than that of my family - and most certainly not with injuring, let alone, killing anybody.
That said: the question is if these parents realised how (Ctd.)
LJBSasha 6 months ago
downright irresponsible their daughter Cassie happened to be - and even if she was OK when alone or with them, it's hard to predict just how wild these adolescents can be when it's a group of them. [Granted that this is a fictional tale (though most of it is based upon actual reality for certain!!!), it's still an interesting study and something in itself to beware of. No less so given how they were angry at Jules' boyfriend for apparently rejecting her when she got pregnant thanks to him!]
LJBSasha 6 months ago
In fact, regarding him (the boyfriend), did he just change because he thought he could get away with it and pretend to be Mr. Decent when he heard his sweetheart was no more - i.e., a display of hypocrisy?
Otherwise, the policeman who breathalysed Cassie would have done well to deprive her of her license on the basis of the group's rowdy behaviour - that way, none of this would have occurred! Otherwise, how would the community have felt if the Cowans took the extreme action of suicide?
LJBSasha 6 months ago
[All this being after the displays of hatred and bitterness manifested not only by the victims' relatives but fellow-patients, work-colleagues, etc. In any event, the question is raised because in some cultures (e.g., Japan), the people there are inculcated to feel it necessary to perform personal atonement even through suicide.] Even if all three of them did so, it wouldn't ever bring back the other people killed in the accident; it wouldn't assuage the communal and individual grief one bit!
LJBSasha 6 months ago
All that any such extreme reactions would do - in addition to possibly being unjust to the parents - would be to disgrace the community.
Of course, those people involved would have to move (probably very far away) and perhaps change their identities; however, spray-painting grafitti on their garage-door is not that much better than, say, murdering one of the family, or burning their house down with them inside.
Sorry to be so loquacious, but these are the thoughts that came to me...
LJBSasha 6 months ago
Before we start making step by step analysis of this program, let's remember that it was only a film and the characters were actors. The reactions of people after the crash was very likely to be extreme with angered emotions. That doesn't mean to say that everyone would respond in that way. It was a short film meant to be as hard hitting as possible. Having said that, I bet some people will still text and chat on their mobiles while driving , because they'll think that it won't happen to them.
UKRaver1956 8 months ago
death toll does not compute. Two girls and the two parents in the other car. Whatever happened to the dead infant in car #2? Isn't that 5 fatalities (not including Jules' fetus?)
rev1969 9 months ago
This Movie did not take me long to find this.
This Movie is a Very Good Teaching Tool for Everyone!!!!
Avoid Cellphone & Drive - Otherwise End Up Treated Like a Drunk Driver
Mr632838 9 months ago
im just 13 years old... i watch this alot to remund myself not to make cassie's mistake. in my opinion, cassie made a mistake and got unfair results...
sexyemopuppy 1 year ago
(C)
the brethelizer was ZERO.
5) Garage sign: Illigal harrassment.
6) Police Reaction: Warranted and needed.
7) Her own reaction: WTF? Don't do that!
I HATE hate. I mean, it was not as if she did it on purpose. I believe that if her friend's spirits could talk to their families, they would tell them to stop being such ass holes.
historybuff5341 1 year ago 5
"it was not as if she did it on purpose"
There is no accident in knowingly using a cellphone while driving, in knowingly performing such a dangerous act. You could use that same argument against bans on drunk driving: "It's not like he meant to mutilate Jacqueline Saburido!".
They knowingly endanger others' lives. And they know that full well. And the majority of them simply do not care. These ARE the same people who will grow up to protest BAC limits like they currently protest this.
1RadicalOne 9 months ago
[cont'd from previous]
However, you do have a point in that the parents are being overly harassed. No, they only take a small segment of the blame (what, maybe 10-15%) for not sufficiently enforcing against such dangerous action. It is Cowan herself who ultimately made the decision - even after pleading by her friends, who were in no way responsible people themselves.
I will be frank. My opinions rather mirror those of the elderly woman in the beginning of this segment. Often even in wording.
1RadicalOne 9 months ago
@1RadicalOne: I didn't see where either of those two girls was pleading with Cassie Cowan not to text on the cellphone or not to drive at any point in any way whatsoever! Of course, that Welsh-British accent is one I'll confess to having considerable trouble...
All the same, a most worthy film that by rights ought to be required viewing for anybody who wants to drive - and simulations where certain people actually get to feel actual pain in their bodies might not be a bad idea likewise...
LJBSasha 6 months ago
I would say making the simulations actually feel like a crash is overdoing it. By a lot.
1RadicalOne 6 months ago
@1RadicalOne: obviously making it TOO realistic would be too much; however, giving them a rough idea (obviously not as intense!) might well be worth it. Please don't forget what airline pilots go through (which is an enormous amount severer!!!), and on a far more regular basis!!! [Yet, it doesn't usually truly affect their health afterwards.]
LJBSasha 6 months ago
Airline pilots are not subjected to physical trauma for the sake of it. And more, that is a more demanding task than driving. And with more severe consequences on failure.
1RadicalOne 6 months ago
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LJBSasha 6 months ago
It hardly needs to be traumatic - a mild shock like what you might get from touching a weakly-electrified farm-fence of the type used to keep livestock or dogs from crossing would suffice. Furthermore, it would happen only during driver training, as opposed to the REGULAR times the pilots have to suffer (which include things like severe cabin depressurization - that can painfully affect the ears!). Also, flying 'per se' isn't that hard - it's the perpetual preparedness for trouble that matters.
LJBSasha 6 months ago
Ah...do I really need to point out the lunacy of causing pain to someone while driving...?
1RadicalOne 6 months ago
@1RadicalOne: If one's truly driving a car, you'd be COMPLETELY RIGHT - inflicting pain THEN is one of the worst possible things!!!!
That's why I was thinking of it happening when the driver is in a simulator (with the instructor). [Admittedly car-simulators probably haven't as of yet been constructed much if at all - something that would be well worth doing. Building them would be considerably cheaper to do than what are used for pilots.]
LJBSasha 6 months ago
I am not sure of that...you would be forced to build a great many of them; after all, there are many times more training drivers than training pilots. That would be expensive...and the only other plausible alternative is to charge exorbitant fees for time on them.
1RadicalOne 6 months ago
@1RadicalOne: Good point. One thing that can help matters is the MANY cars that end up at the wreckers due to accidents!! The interiors could be easily preserved and built up to make good simulators with the addition of appropriate screens - and with seat-belts containing electrodes that would then be draped across strategic body parts. These then could be toured around given districts (in trucks or on trains) and would give everybody in training (either basic or advanced) a chance.
LJBSasha 6 months ago
As to the financial side of matters: given 1) the use of existing car-parts for much of the simulators plus 2) saving of insurance-fees by the hopeful reduction of accidents, I think that the costs wouldn't be quite as high as you might think. If I'm wrong anywhere, please don't hesitate to point it out - who knows, could we (you and I) just possibly be onto something?
LJBSasha 6 months ago
That is rather expensive to pull off. Perhaps even more expensive than building from scratch, since you must now design with all the constraints of the existing hardware already set.
1RadicalOne 6 months ago
@1RadicalOne: You well could be right. At the same time, having things mimicking a car interior that's known to people instead of something generic is what surely needs to be part of getting the experience to be as convincing as possible. If it doesn't have the extra degree of verisimiltude, people might say or think "these things won't happen to me - after all, that's not a real car they're using." [There would need to be 4 or 5 categories for each of which a simulator must be built: (C)
LJBSasha 6 months ago
(C): Sub-compacts (the smallest kind of car), compact, midsize, large, SUV or pickup. Having one of each per district (say to allow a radius of 60-80 km. in each case so as to ensure accessibility) shouldn't be THAT hard to make. [Of course, some of it has to do with how absolutely elaborate one needs to make each of these simulators - somehow, my thinking is that using used parts for the basic would actually save money.]
LJBSasha 6 months ago
1: Father's reaction: Giving the grief, I can understand. He should apologize later, but at the moment no.
2: Ladies reaction: Uncalled for. Even if it was her fault, the fact that she must forever live with the guilt is punishment enough.
3: Store's reaction: Not only uncalled for, but I even think illigal. I would file a lawsuit.
4: Man in Lunch Line: Uncalled for. I think he has gone through enough, considering that his daughter is in the Hospital. Especially considering that (C)
historybuff5341 1 year ago 11
@historybuff5341
Seriously? Grow a dick. (or ovaries, however it applies)
1: Justified
2: Justified
3: His store, his rules. you MUST be from the nannystate.
4: I'd do the same.
Styles828 8 months ago
@Styles828
1. Acting
2. Acting
3. Acting
4. Acting
Have a nice day :)
KeyrunBenji 8 months ago
@Styles828: What's the point of #4 when she herself was cleared? Is just being breathalysed enough to deserve opprobrium, even if in conjunction with everything else? Of course, if she had even a minimal amount of alcohol, it would be different (0.02 BAL for most people CAN be like 0.2 for a child/adolescent, especially if one's petite); but it's not conclusive 'per se'. [The police should have arrested them anyway upon sensing just how irresponsible they were - that's enough cause for
LJBSasha 6 months ago
license cancellation - which is why I would advocate some sort of accident simulation being required (as stated above) of people, especially if they're young!!]
Yes, a very involving story even if fictional: things like that DO happen in real life with great similarity...
LJBSasha 6 months ago
very clear message there.. however i dont think the treatment that her parents got is justified too be honest.. not really very fair.. but i guess thats just life.. some people are way too judgemental
prm4eva 1 year ago
@prm4eva: Yes, some people are "way too judgemental" - however, wait until somebody kills your child under similar circumstances (even without the slightest intent, merely because of inattention of even a second), and then perhaps you'll feel differently. If ever I was cursed to be a parent or guardian, it would be FAR better to not teach or encourage an irresponsible child to drive. Even if they're taught at school, it's better then NOT to entrust them with a family vehicle - in the (C1)
LJBSasha 6 months ago
(C1) worst case, it's not a bad idea to formally denounce him (or her) to the authorities (and if in a driving course, most certainly to the teachers!) if not even publicly to the whole community: that way, a parent or guardian would at least protect himself to some extent from the kind of communal retribution seen in this film. [This ties in with where some parents not only neglect their duties but see their kids with extra rose-coloured glasses.]
LJBSasha 6 months ago
It's also with this purpose in mind why I believe would-be drivers - particularly those whose attitude is questionable - ought to be subjected to simulator experiences where they can even experience actual pain (not in excessive measure, but enough to give them an idea of what their mistakes could entail!) as a mandatory part of a training course!! [Not to mention that such advanced-driving courses can then teach them techniques to help them more easily avoid accidents...]
LJBSasha 6 months ago
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LJBSasha 6 months ago
The intent here's not a question of sadism but extra measures of prevention: an ounce of prevention's better than a tonne of cure!!
Finally, a parent's denunciation that's sent AFTER an accident occurs should not be given any credibility as then it's TOO LATE!!!
LJBSasha 6 months ago
Really great video, thanks for posting! Omg some of those people were so mean... I mean I can understand why, but still... so sad...
kyrakun 1 year ago
Its very very hard to find the full version of this, thank you so much for posting it
snaprebelx 1 year ago 4
i think this is sooo amazing, really moving its a shame more people dont know about it.
hatsaresoverycool 1 year ago
God this was such an eye opener for me like if it happens you cant take it back i cried so much
NokayaLee 1 year ago
thought provoking... wish more young people could see this
Fluffybeanie 1 year ago
sooo good!
xceeejy 1 year ago 2
thank you for posting this
tonyd223 2 years ago 13