i believe the universe has always been here. what is inconsistent about this? It certainly challenges the notions of beginnings and ends that we establish for many things, but every beginning and end is a notion. Find me one that isn't, and tell me exactly when it happens.
@gooddarkjedi Do I have a dragon? I don't and never will have, maybe you do and that's Satan. Don't ever compare your old fucking dragon wanna-be-god-lucifer to my Almighty God The Father. Anyways God Bless You and your already burning soul in hell. Again, FUCK YOU and your co-youtube decievers. (-_-),,|,, Evil will lose in the end.
I don't belive in a god but supernatural but that is mostly because i belong to a "medium history" my great grandmother could tell when people would call and if somone died she knew it before any one told her
@intuos when he says thath god is supernatura he is besicly saying that he belives in magic. in this case we can just drop the hole discustion. he just keeps to move the goalpost. tell me utnow, when did you last time saw something supernatural? when there is no evidence that something exists you shuld not belive it. unlike you, we dont say it was done by magic.
Just because we cannot currently scientifically prove any of the theories (arisen from a previous collapsed universe, etc.) of how our universe comes about does not necessarily affirm the existence of a supernatural cause to our universe, because we can always concede to the limitations of science currently. So the true cause of our universe could in fact be natural, just that we are unable to prove it now...right?
ok well what if there were a theoretical omni type god and this god did create an egg so big he/she/it couldnt move it.....would being able to move the entire universe and all of space/time around this egg count? by our perspective they would be moving an egg so big they couldnt move it wouldnt they?
Children of Men is such a good movie. I watched it four times in two days.
Anyways, on the whole religion thing. I don't believe in god. There is no reason to. I believe that I can trust myself to be a good human being without a god to keep me in check.
Has anyone every considered that the universe was created by humans or some other intelligent life form? My thoughts are that we travel back in time and put the materials in place for the creation of the universe.
Total omnipotence logically can't exist. But, "omnipotence" to a point, or "limited omnipotence" could potentially exist.
Technically, gravity is a theory. Science doesn't deal with proofs--nothing in science gets "proven," since all information is subject to change with further analysis/data. Science deals with hypotheses at the lower level and theories at the higher level. Just a technical discrepancy with your word choice.
What is a Christian God? I'm sorry but They believe in three in one, from what I remember, so what is a Christian God? And their three in one God said, LEAN NOT ON YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING Which means I understand that you are truely confused, like the rest of us. You can tell anyone about God, but you can not explain God, especially the Christian God, being they have three in one.
How can the Christian God exist if he sends people to hell even if they've never heard of him? How can he send people to hell at all and still be "good"?
I'm tired of just arguing about the Christian God: it's too limiting, anglo-centric and boring.
it depends on what you believe is right and wrong...if god did create everything then he has the right to set the morals...shit if i was god and you didnt believe in me id send your ass to hell too...as far as never hearing about god, you should probably get out more
that depends. there's circumstances to that. you must be sincere when repenting and attempt to never do it again. it's not all about do whatever you'd like and expect to be forgiving by default. doesn't work that way.
The intermission music was way too loud compared to your talking.
There's easy evidence that Santa Claus doesn't exist ... with the total number of kids and the time frame allowed. The speed of the sled would have to approach the speed of light, whose energy would be far too great and heavy for anything practical.
There are various kinds of Buddhism, and it is a religion. In Chinese Buddhism at least there are god-like spirits and such like,praying, but it is true that scripture is also very important. Buddhism has various metaphysical ideas eg karma and the different levels of existence in different lives (and the idea of an underworld) that would suggest it was a religion. Plus it is organised - there are monks, monasaries and the dalai lama.+ the Chinese puppet dalai lama ...
I heard you mention Buddhism in your first video with this, thought someone would say something long before I could, but then heard you mention it again. Buddhism is not really a religion, it just has set guidelines on how people should live. There is no Buddhist god, or even a higher being to worship- it's just teachings.
i love your logic!! i myself am a Christian and i am this because i believe it is more logical to explain that life came from God. non-living cannot create the living, this has never been disproved and i think there has to be a God.
Proof in a God requires faith and just because you have faith doesn't make it truth.. To put it another way if you Scott had faith you could jump off a cliff and fly just by flapping your arms could you? Again just because you have faith in a God doesn't make it a fact.
I found out the dryer hose has been unhooked and there is a ton of dryer fluff under the house. I wondered why it was so dusty in the house. I think it's washing all the kids clothes after they have been moon-walking. There must be alot of dust up there because they keep bringing it back.
but on the flip side i believe that there is something, and i hope im following the right path, that my god does exist and is helping the flow of things (2 post)
about the belife that this universe came from another universe. i believe in cycles, i believe that there was never "nothing." i believe that "nothing" is incable of existing. i see the universe as being a cycle. the chicken came from the egg, the egg came from the chicken. i believe that the universe collapsed, and then exploded back out, and that it will continue to do this, forever
Heh, almost to quote my opinion on this- I believe there is a God because I do. I don't know there is a God, because any contact with Him that I believe I had/have could just be schitzophrenia, and I just don't know it.
You're aware that no matter what you say, this argument will never, ever, ever end? People will still try to prove one way or the other.
Just to clarify - your saying that you know exactly, without any hint of a doubt, what a sarin "bomb" or any of a thousand other terrorist devices would look like if they were planted and made to look innocent? I praise the person aware enough to note the idiotic ATHF and question those who didn't.
And you know this how? After all terrorists don't use box knives either, right, come on what could you do with a box knife? They, "sat there for a long time," sounds exactly like what a terrorist would want, something that wouldn't be noticed for a long time till they were ready in all ten cities.
[3] ...considering ideas with an open-minded but skeptical stance, whereas fundamentalists insist on rejecting evidence and on rigid conformity to an absolute and unchanging standard. I find myself almost always agreeing with what atheists say even though I don't consider myself an atheist, and I have a great deal of respect for Richard Dawkins as a scientist even though I don't entirely agree with his methodology for attacking religion. What was your purpose in making the "rofltheism" video?
[2] ... I would describe myself as being most close to an agnostic, although I recognize that it might become possible to prove the existence of God if new evidence becomes available, so I'm not a "hard" agnostic. We can speculate all we want about what might exist beyond our knowledge, but lets recognize it for what it is: speculation. The reason I don't place atheism and fundamentalism on equal footing is that most if not all of the atheists I know are very open to new evidence and...
You may think Richard Dawkins is foolish but he has an important point about religious fundamentalism and the indoctrination of children. I know what it is like to be controlled by your religion through fear because I've been there myself. I agree that you can't disprove there's a Santa Claus, but I think the kind of thinking that makes a grown adult say "yes, there is a Santa Claus" is downright dangerous--it's how people get fooled by con artists, faith healers, phone "psychics", etc...
Supernaturalism has done nothing to further man's understanding of the world. No supernatural claim has ever been verified, while thousands upon thousands have been proven false. Meanwhile, we have found natural explanations for virtually everything in the Universe, with the number of unexplained items shrinking all the time. Why is it logical to say "Gee, maybe it is something supernatural that caused the Big Bang," rather than to assume it's a natural phenomenon we simply don't understand yet?
The correct term is Bostonians, not Bostonites. We're not afraid of electricity, the general public wasn't up close with the item. Until it was disclosed what they were, our only information was "suspcicous boxes" on places like highway overpasses, bridge supports, subway stations, etc. We saw bomb squads racing through town, helicopters all over the place, etc. How were we supposed to know what they were while all that chaos was going on? Laugh at the police, not the people.
Cute attempt to play semantics. Listen to his comments again and clearly he is referring to the people of Boston. Elementary word games are boring, play them on someone else.
Does the universe have a supernatural cause? Or is the universe not bound to linear time? You do have a really good point about matter or energy never being either created or destroyed, only transformed. That means that our universe could have never had a beginning.
Believe what you believe, if believing it makes you a good person and makes you want to go on and wake up every morning with that faith or logic. then believe it.
Hi. My name is River and I'm a recovering Protestant. I've been clean now for 21 years and I am quite happy being agnostic. To those that say you can't be happy without Jesus, tell that to the billion people in China.
BTW, why would God allow billions of his children to go to hell because they were raised in buddist families in China to never hear about Jesus?
Many versions of Christianity state that people who were born into other religions are misguided, but if they are still good people they will go to heaven.
So because the variation of Christianity you read up on says nothing about people who were never taught the religion you spoke of, all nominations of the Christian faith do too? That makes sense... I am not a Christian I just wanted to point out that one belief to that guy. I do however believe in God.
Oh cool you read every single variation of the bible in all variations of Christianity. Tell me good sir, would you please list them all for us? Seeing as you are so clearly more educated.
The Catholic Chruch or any other proclaimed biblical translators could easily have plugged anything they wanted to into the bible during these translations. Plus faced with inductive hypocricy it just might be their way of doing so. There is also the added effect of the latin dilemma in which the only remaining copies of the bible at one point were in latin, a dead language. Thus, the bible has actually secretly been translated many times over the thousands of years spanning.
i agree, it makes you wonder how all these types of christianity came to be, catholics, methodists, jahova witness's, minonites and so on...i believe there is a god, but i'm not going to believe a single denomination's beliefs because they are all so different and catholics just kinda freak me out...but anyways thats a good chance that people with their own thoughts and opinions changed the original word of god...if we had the very original word of god, we'd be ok, but we dont
vargonifir, those are interesting comments you bring up. however, we can sure that the Bible is the same today as it was when it was written. The dead sea scrolls prove this as they were written 2000 years ago, and are the same as the texts we have today. Peace.
Well, I never said I was referring to that particular portion of the Bible. I'm mainly referring back to the old testament which is reasonably larger than the new testament.
And watever so happened to those who weren't "happy" w/ God & tried to express their religion in China? Can you tell me where they are? Oh wait they just join God in the heavens perfect!!! :D
The only reply I have to this is my personal opinion-
I don't necessarily believe in a Christian god. I do believe in some higher power. That higher power can show itself in other ways. The interpretation of this higher power is the difference between religions.
Though apparently it's BLASPHEMY for me to say so. xD
God is sometimes a way to explain the unexplainable. For example, A lot of science that we (as humanity) have said was God's doing, and yet some of these things that had been the doing of God have been proven by science. I'm not saying I don't believe in a/any god, but that we as humanity have used the "God" as an explination for things that we don't know why they occur. I don't feel I'm being very specific but I think you will understand what I am saying.
i've found there is usually a reasonable explanation for most things that happen in our world. science is generally good at answering the "hows". Religion is for the "whys". people aren't so good yet at accepting cold logic. they want to believe it is for another reason.
I actually new very little on the subject, but wanted to put it out there anyways. :] But thanks to you, i now know a little bit more on the subject. Thanks.
I don't know if my last comment was posted, but I pretty much said that the planes that were in 9-11 flew out of Logan International Airport in Boston. So, at least proper precautions. My mom works in Boston and I live near it, so I'm glad they weren't bombs and they were Lite Bright things...? Ahahaha thats so weird. And whats up with that Fox video clip? "Umm thats not a hair question!" Hahaha
I live 40 minutes outside of Boston, and my mom commutes there everyday for work. I know the Lite Bright thing was stupid and kinda funny, but some people forget that the planes in 9-11 left Logan Airport. So at least they were taking the proper precautions. Ok, now I'm going to finish watching your video :)
Hi Scott. I'm a big fan of your videos. I believe I read about the last point you made about God being the 'uncaused cause' in "Fagothey's Right and Reason- Ethics in Theory and Practice." Keep up the good work!
I've heard this argument many times before. Science and logic cannot apply to the supernatural. So go away. But without a good reason to believe in something, why/how can you believe it? How can you believe in a god if, to you, there is as much reason to believe in an invisible green goblin floating above my head? So, you believe there is a reason. So, we can take a look if it is a valid reason to believe in something or not.
Atheists believe in evolution right ? Well there's no reason to believe man crawled out of the primordial soup believing in God. So we must have evolved into it (believing in God), and with evolution being a good thing, then God must be a good thing.
the Flying spagetting monster exists! he came to me in a dream last night and told me that he would send a child to Keith Richards and this child would be the second coming of christ!
hi utnow, while agnosticism and atheism are 2 distinct ideas, they are not mutually exlusive. without belief in god(s) is not a position of belief itself. this would be akin to calling a shoestore a hatstore simply because they don't sell hats. a person can exist as an agnostic atheist, there is no collision involved. please do further research on the actual meaning of the word atheism, thanks.
yet you say those two things and there's no conflict in the two, however your definition of both are off a bit. everyone is an agnostic, in the sense that "we don't know" this includes theists as well as atheists. you have faith in your god, not proof of your god.
Hi Scott :) I'm an Athiest, I don't believe a God exists. But I'm humble enough to admit that I could be ::gasp:: wrong. Will I be an Atheist in ten years? Who knows? People change, grow, have new experiences. I don't think being openminded about others beliefs means I'm not an Atheist.
About being scientific...I'm sure you're aware that one of the principles of science is that you can't prove a negative. So saying we have to prove God (or unicorns, santa claus etc) doesn't exist is, well, wrong. The burdon of proof is on the person claiming something DOES exist. I personally don't need any proof, I love, respect and tolerate everyone's beliefs and I'm perfectly happy to never discuss whether a persons beliefs are 'right' or 'wrong' because honestly it doesn't matter.
Just so we're all clear on your definition of logic: I have to accept the possibility that anything and everything is true unless there is proof otherwise... even if it makes absolutely no sense? Some whacko says Santa exists, and the burden of proof is on me to say he doesn't? I don't buy it.
If you don't deny either way, then you accept it as a possibility (which is what I said). My point is that just because something isn't unproven doesn't mean it's just as likely to exist as it is to not exist. The concept of God, besides being unproven, is also unlikely, and unnecessary. Just because we don't _know_ what caused the Big Bang is no reason to presume it was some supernatural entity.
Its not "just as likely", I more likely that it wont exist but until you can prove it doesnt no one should be running around claiming that its impossible, unlikely/improbable doesnt mean false
Its just complete arrogence to state "its impossible for this to exist" when you ahve no proof either way
Thank you so much for saying that ATHF sucks. I thought I was the only one who thought that. It's horrible! This isn't to say that that's all I got out of the video...but, yeah. Cartoon Network really needs some better shows.
Got me thinking. Who's to say that we fully understand nature? Can we truly say/prove that God is supernatural? Maybe the word Supernatural is just to explain what we cannot understand. I believe god created everything. So everything around us is either supernatural or natural. See where I'm going with this?
Stop going around in circles. Its new topic brother. You just keep doing more research and blabbering on, Give your own view not the view of others facts.
I applaud your videos!! I firmly believe that I person should not pigeon hole themselves in the realm of one extreme or the other...only stagnation can occur from that. True growth comes from the acknowlegment that there is the possiblity of something else.
When I was young, I viewed myself as a Christian. I had faith that there was a god...I never questioned my faith, it was always there. Of course, as I got older I began to question why I believed things the way I did. The older I got, the harder it was to grasp the idea that "Seeing is not believing, believing is seeing."
I don't know if it sucks or not, and I'm happy to take your word for it, but I was beginning to wonder if I was the only person around who thought ATHF was not great. See ya on Loowa. -amv
I like Evil Scott's delivery. However, I think it is far more ridiculous to believe in something you can't prove than it is to not believe in it (Santa Claus for example). The problem with religious nuts is that they want to tell everyone else how to live. They want to force people to pay respect to their delusion. Like putting religious slogans in public buildings. Not everyone's delusional crap. Just their own particular crap.
A God is an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent being right? The existence of such a being is impossible and can be disproved by the very paradox that having such a skillset brings fourth. He can't get lost, can't create something so heavy that even he can't lift it, or can't not know what is going to happen in his future.
If you decide not to definate the word "God" then you can't disprove it. Disproving an undefined word is kidna tough.
There's one answer that stands as wholly truth: It's all speculation. All of it. Humans do not know everything, and we should accept that, while being joyous for what we have. Selfish tendencies are those which put us, and our ideas, before others. Remember that.
This is a great video. I myself am agnostic. Although, I do find myself thinking more and more about Christianity, but my nature makes it hard. I have trouble following something with blind faith. It makes me uncomfortable. Anyway, thank you for this video. You are always great to watch.
Hey Scott, I usually really dig your stuff, regardless of if I agree with what you're saying it's always well thought out and presented just as thoughtfully... but this time, you kinda just run in circles for minutes on end. and you run over ground you've walked before in previous vids. Was disappointed in that I found nothing new here this time.
I felt the same way... but I promised a response... I felt obligated to deliver. ;) But of course the up-side is that I've had an extraordinarily long time to come up with fresh topics, so I'll be back with a vengeance next time around. :P
I completely agree that you cannot prove the supernatural by scientific method. I believe in Jesus. What happened to me on the day of my salvation was not of this world. That is my belief and conviction. I love your videos, Scott. :)
An Atheist is not one who declares there is no God. An Atheist is just one who lacks a belief in God. You are saying the only Atheist is a "Strong Atheist", and that is clearly not true.
Agreed. Atheism doesn't mean being a closeminded jerk who refuses to acknowledge they could be wrong. I don't think the Tooth Fairy exists either but I could be wrong. People are confusing fanatacism with religion and apparently think that all Atheists (or Christians) are these in-your-face-I'm-right-your wrong-no-room-for -discussion fanatics and it's simply not true. They're a vocal minority, they don't speak for us all. Jeez I hate stereotypes.
UTNow is basically saying, flipping sides of the argument to make it more clear, that if one is not a fundamentalist Christian, then one is not a Christian. Now, that clearly isn't true, is it?
That's what I was saying as well. If a Buddhist or Christian or Pagan says "I believe this thing, but I admit that it's physically possible that I'm wrong so I'm willing to discuss your beliefs." then they aren't really a Buddhist or Christian or Pagan? I can be humble, open-minded and question my own beliefs and still be an Atheist.
Are you going to spam this video with your narrow minded bigotry as well? Your entire argument, all of them, are founded on this statement: "belief in something unseen is stupid"
For starters, improbable is far from false. You should know that. Second, you're applying natural logic to supernatural concepts. By definition they exist (or don't) outside of our ability to grasp them. Third, that our universe exists is a pretty damn good proof that something put it there. Something that isn't constrained by your simplistic view of 'what you see is what you get'.
That being said, I don't give a damn what you believe. But I'll not have anyone calling those who have equally invalid and unsubstantiated opinions from their own stupid. And certainly not you.
i know improbable isn't false and that's why i've never said it's impossible for a god to exist. when people like richard dawkins says god doesn't exists they say it just like i say you exist, i can't prove you exist but it's probable in the face of the EVIDENCE...
and yes, i am applying natural logic to supernatural concepts because if you have to claim supernaturality then you've allready lost because supernatural things are improbable...
everything we can't rattle up evidence or any type of basis for is improbable.
That something put it there? yes... that a conciouss being put it there? NO, i can't even see why you'd think that, nothing we've ever experienced leads us to belive that's the case..
could this process be supernatural (whatever that would mean)? sure, could it be natural? yea. doesn't really matter because it's the conciousness BEING that's the problem here.
and my argument whole argument isn't founded on "belief in something unseen is stupid"... it's founded on "belief in something for which there is no to very little basis is stupid" and i'd say it's a damn valid statement.
Dawkins has never said that god's existence is impossible, he's just saying it's improbable and beliving there is one is stupid... and he's right.
and YES, it is improbable because it goes against everything we know, nothing begins with a conciousness because conciousness is complicated, there is infinitely more likely it's a non concious process... if you invent a concept that goes against established theory then it's obiouvsly improbable.
You sound like Socrates. You don't want to teach, but you want people to have the ability to know wtf they are saying and not to regurgitate information.
what? My boyfriend just fell asleep next to me, That is just as just as much as imforomation, i got from this.
brgb100 1 month ago
i believe the universe has always been here. what is inconsistent about this? It certainly challenges the notions of beginnings and ends that we establish for many things, but every beginning and end is a notion. Find me one that isn't, and tell me exactly when it happens.
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DreamsofMajesty 1 year ago
You keep on saying FUCK and MORON and STUPID so bad that it echoed in my fuckin ass.
So my questions are really simple.
Answerable by a YES or a NO. Just a plain YES or NO.
1. DO YOU HAVE A GOD??
2. DO YOU THINK YOU'RE A GENIUS??
I made the words so damn clear.
theworldofozven 2 years ago
and oh there's a third question..
3. HAVE YOU EVER HAD SEX WITH A LESBIAN ZEBRA??
theworldofozven 2 years ago
@theworldofozven nobody has god. in the same sence you culd ask do you have a dragon.
gooddarkjedi 1 year ago
@gooddarkjedi nobody has god? WHAT A STUPID FUCK ARE YOU?? Alright I GET IT, you're just another SATANIST. FUCK YOU ,,|,,
theworldofozven 1 year ago
@gooddarkjedi Do I have a dragon? I don't and never will have, maybe you do and that's Satan. Don't ever compare your old fucking dragon wanna-be-god-lucifer to my Almighty God The Father. Anyways God Bless You and your already burning soul in hell. Again, FUCK YOU and your co-youtube decievers. (-_-),,|,, Evil will lose in the end.
theworldofozven 1 year ago
I don't belive in a god but supernatural but that is mostly because i belong to a "medium history" my great grandmother could tell when people would call and if somone died she knew it before any one told her
MeisterReaper 2 years ago
Okay, you make 3 statements in this video.
1. God is supernatural
2. Logic does not apply to the supernatural
3. It is more logical to say that God might exist that to say that God does not exist.
I don't see how #3 follows. If God is unrelated to logic, why is it more logical to admit God's potential existence?
intuos 2 years ago
@intuos when he says thath god is supernatura he is besicly saying that he belives in magic. in this case we can just drop the hole discustion. he just keeps to move the goalpost. tell me utnow, when did you last time saw something supernatural? when there is no evidence that something exists you shuld not belive it. unlike you, we dont say it was done by magic.
gooddarkjedi 1 year ago
Just because we cannot currently scientifically prove any of the theories (arisen from a previous collapsed universe, etc.) of how our universe comes about does not necessarily affirm the existence of a supernatural cause to our universe, because we can always concede to the limitations of science currently. So the true cause of our universe could in fact be natural, just that we are unable to prove it now...right?
mvbxm4 2 years ago
ok well what if there were a theoretical omni type god and this god did create an egg so big he/she/it couldnt move it.....would being able to move the entire universe and all of space/time around this egg count? by our perspective they would be moving an egg so big they couldnt move it wouldnt they?
signed
a random pagan
dannn85 3 years ago
agnostic, atheist, i think everyone knows the differenc... no?
AnandaShake 4 years ago
Cosmos: "The Birth of Stars" episode by Carl Sagan is a fantastic point of view from what I now addopt as my "belief" for lack of better words.
Fallicious 4 years ago
Children of Men is such a good movie. I watched it four times in two days.
Anyways, on the whole religion thing. I don't believe in god. There is no reason to. I believe that I can trust myself to be a good human being without a god to keep me in check.
Has anyone every considered that the universe was created by humans or some other intelligent life form? My thoughts are that we travel back in time and put the materials in place for the creation of the universe.
FungusToes 4 years ago
big penis likey likey
you cant dsprove God so he exists.
you cant prove God so he doesnt exist.
I think God exists so he exists. hahaha fuck you alol
aznflea 4 years ago
telling someone who believes different than you 'fuck you'. how christian.
acdcsdaughter 3 years ago
I disagree, that's a human trait to be close minded, not a christian one. But ya aznflea you have issues XD.
CipherMind117 3 years ago
"that's a human trait to be closed minded, not a Christian one" in your opinion :p haha jk mike
acdcsdaughter 3 years ago
Total omnipotence logically can't exist. But, "omnipotence" to a point, or "limited omnipotence" could potentially exist.
Technically, gravity is a theory. Science doesn't deal with proofs--nothing in science gets "proven," since all information is subject to change with further analysis/data. Science deals with hypotheses at the lower level and theories at the higher level. Just a technical discrepancy with your word choice.
Yours,
Alex Peak
allixpeeke 4 years ago
What is a Christian God? I'm sorry but They believe in three in one, from what I remember, so what is a Christian God? And their three in one God said, LEAN NOT ON YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING Which means I understand that you are truely confused, like the rest of us. You can tell anyone about God, but you can not explain God, especially the Christian God, being they have three in one.
rgtm55 4 years ago
Pretty sure I pointed this out the first run around, but not believing in the existance of God isn't the same as believing God doesn't exist.
danno1111 4 years ago
I dated a girl who claimed to be an Atheist and kept saying things like "I hate God." You can't hate something you don't believe in.
bodhinature 4 years ago
ZING!
simmsinns 4 years ago
Evil Scott is a God. This video is proof. ;x And normal Scott is... something... under... Evil Scott? Or something like that...
adriinsane 4 years ago
hey.. i hear Lily Allen - Everything's Just Wonderful
lionelttl 4 years ago
I WANT THIS PODCAST!! wtf.. scott send me this
ps2babyboy 4 years ago
I'm an atheist. Lmfao. To see no faith is the only comfort. I love evil scott xD
MidnightPoison 4 years ago
God would not have allowed for anyone to change the Bible point of view.
HaulingAss12 4 years ago
You tell yourself that.
vargonifir 4 years ago
Slave to religion. How revolting.
PhoenixofVirtue 4 years ago
How can the Christian God exist if he sends people to hell even if they've never heard of him? How can he send people to hell at all and still be "good"?
I'm tired of just arguing about the Christian God: it's too limiting, anglo-centric and boring.
TheAbsurdTruth 5 years ago
it depends on what you believe is right and wrong...if god did create everything then he has the right to set the morals...shit if i was god and you didnt believe in me id send your ass to hell too...as far as never hearing about god, you should probably get out more
CritiqueItUp 4 years ago
He is supposed to forgive you, no matter what you do.
noseque07 4 years ago
that depends. there's circumstances to that. you must be sincere when repenting and attempt to never do it again. it's not all about do whatever you'd like and expect to be forgiving by default. doesn't work that way.
Tamacracker 3 years ago
I love the Cartoon Adult Swim guys more now.
The intermission music was way too loud compared to your talking.
There's easy evidence that Santa Claus doesn't exist ... with the total number of kids and the time frame allowed. The speed of the sled would have to approach the speed of light, whose energy would be far too great and heavy for anything practical.
TheAbsurdTruth 5 years ago
But, you are looking at it from being LOGICAL, if its supernatural it can happen, santa rocks, don't bring him down.
noseque07 4 years ago
There are various kinds of Buddhism, and it is a religion. In Chinese Buddhism at least there are god-like spirits and such like,praying, but it is true that scripture is also very important. Buddhism has various metaphysical ideas eg karma and the different levels of existence in different lives (and the idea of an underworld) that would suggest it was a religion. Plus it is organised - there are monks, monasaries and the dalai lama.+ the Chinese puppet dalai lama ...
Karibdis007 5 years ago
I heard you mention Buddhism in your first video with this, thought someone would say something long before I could, but then heard you mention it again. Buddhism is not really a religion, it just has set guidelines on how people should live. There is no Buddhist god, or even a higher being to worship- it's just teachings.
onesidedpolygon 5 years ago
i love your logic!! i myself am a Christian and i am this because i believe it is more logical to explain that life came from God. non-living cannot create the living, this has never been disproved and i think there has to be a God.
xXD4RwDXx 5 years ago
yap!
schillymilly 5 years ago
You are brilliant my friend!
StaticBreeze 5 years ago
You are brilliant Scott
zippieALBA 5 years ago
Proof in a God requires faith and just because you have faith doesn't make it truth.. To put it another way if you Scott had faith you could jump off a cliff and fly just by flapping your arms could you? Again just because you have faith in a God doesn't make it a fact.
Prence 5 years ago
I found out the dryer hose has been unhooked and there is a ton of dryer fluff under the house. I wondered why it was so dusty in the house. I think it's washing all the kids clothes after they have been moon-walking. There must be alot of dust up there because they keep bringing it back.
gwaelin 5 years ago
but on the flip side i believe that there is something, and i hope im following the right path, that my god does exist and is helping the flow of things (2 post)
Kaindragoon 5 years ago
about the belife that this universe came from another universe. i believe in cycles, i believe that there was never "nothing." i believe that "nothing" is incable of existing. i see the universe as being a cycle. the chicken came from the egg, the egg came from the chicken. i believe that the universe collapsed, and then exploded back out, and that it will continue to do this, forever
Kaindragoon 5 years ago
Go Scott. xD
Heh, almost to quote my opinion on this- I believe there is a God because I do. I don't know there is a God, because any contact with Him that I believe I had/have could just be schitzophrenia, and I just don't know it.
You're aware that no matter what you say, this argument will never, ever, ever end? People will still try to prove one way or the other.
Anyways... good video.
greylondonskies 5 years ago
Just to clarify - your saying that you know exactly, without any hint of a doubt, what a sarin "bomb" or any of a thousand other terrorist devices would look like if they were planted and made to look innocent? I praise the person aware enough to note the idiotic ATHF and question those who didn't.
DKK
LifeTrek 5 years ago
well, dude, it sat there for a long time. what is the point of leaving a bomb somewhere only not to detanate (sp?) it? and secondly...
can you imagine a bunch of terrorists at a table working on light-brights?
c'mon, now... terrorists don't play with toys...
mistaspot1 5 years ago
And you know this how? After all terrorists don't use box knives either, right, come on what could you do with a box knife? They, "sat there for a long time," sounds exactly like what a terrorist would want, something that wouldn't be noticed for a long time till they were ready in all ten cities.
DKK
LifeTrek 5 years ago
[3] ...considering ideas with an open-minded but skeptical stance, whereas fundamentalists insist on rejecting evidence and on rigid conformity to an absolute and unchanging standard. I find myself almost always agreeing with what atheists say even though I don't consider myself an atheist, and I have a great deal of respect for Richard Dawkins as a scientist even though I don't entirely agree with his methodology for attacking religion. What was your purpose in making the "rofltheism" video?
TheMathGuy 5 years ago
[2] ... I would describe myself as being most close to an agnostic, although I recognize that it might become possible to prove the existence of God if new evidence becomes available, so I'm not a "hard" agnostic. We can speculate all we want about what might exist beyond our knowledge, but lets recognize it for what it is: speculation. The reason I don't place atheism and fundamentalism on equal footing is that most if not all of the atheists I know are very open to new evidence and...
TheMathGuy 5 years ago
You may think Richard Dawkins is foolish but he has an important point about religious fundamentalism and the indoctrination of children. I know what it is like to be controlled by your religion through fear because I've been there myself. I agree that you can't disprove there's a Santa Claus, but I think the kind of thinking that makes a grown adult say "yes, there is a Santa Claus" is downright dangerous--it's how people get fooled by con artists, faith healers, phone "psychics", etc...
TheMathGuy 5 years ago
it is my conclusion that most humans are insane.
mistaspot1 5 years ago
Oh man, here he goes again on religion. I don't trust men in pink shirts.
surfpark 5 years ago
THANK YOU!!!
gypsysforge 5 years ago
Yes you can prove it. How? GHOSTBUSTERS!
^_^ hehe
GregKarwowski 5 years ago
Wow. This is an amazing video. Seriously. Awesome intro. Awesome everything. You seriously are a freakin' genius at this. Can't wait for more.
tlasz24 5 years ago
I agree with you, especially with all that great stuff at the end.
flinder 5 years ago
Supernaturalism has done nothing to further man's understanding of the world. No supernatural claim has ever been verified, while thousands upon thousands have been proven false. Meanwhile, we have found natural explanations for virtually everything in the Universe, with the number of unexplained items shrinking all the time. Why is it logical to say "Gee, maybe it is something supernatural that caused the Big Bang," rather than to assume it's a natural phenomenon we simply don't understand yet?
plob218 5 years ago
The correct term is Bostonians, not Bostonites. We're not afraid of electricity, the general public wasn't up close with the item. Until it was disclosed what they were, our only information was "suspcicous boxes" on places like highway overpasses, bridge supports, subway stations, etc. We saw bomb squads racing through town, helicopters all over the place, etc. How were we supposed to know what they were while all that chaos was going on? Laugh at the police, not the people.
Michelle5451 5 years ago
aren't the police bostonians?
mistaspot1 5 years ago
Cute attempt to play semantics. Listen to his comments again and clearly he is referring to the people of Boston. Elementary word games are boring, play them on someone else.
Michelle5451 5 years ago
Does the universe have a supernatural cause? Or is the universe not bound to linear time? You do have a really good point about matter or energy never being either created or destroyed, only transformed. That means that our universe could have never had a beginning.
AndrewLife 5 years ago
Believe what you believe, if believing it makes you a good person and makes you want to go on and wake up every morning with that faith or logic. then believe it.
shockXmeXdead 5 years ago
Hi. My name is River and I'm a recovering Protestant. I've been clean now for 21 years and I am quite happy being agnostic. To those that say you can't be happy without Jesus, tell that to the billion people in China.
BTW, why would God allow billions of his children to go to hell because they were raised in buddist families in China to never hear about Jesus?
riverkee 5 years ago
Many versions of Christianity state that people who were born into other religions are misguided, but if they are still good people they will go to heaven.
CmdrZer0 5 years ago
Where is this? Thou shall worship no other gods but the Lord? You can only get to heaven by accepting Jesus Christ?
TheAbsurdTruth 5 years ago
So because the variation of Christianity you read up on says nothing about people who were never taught the religion you spoke of, all nominations of the Christian faith do too? That makes sense... I am not a Christian I just wanted to point out that one belief to that guy. I do however believe in God.
CmdrZer0 4 years ago
What? "One" variation? All variations. It's in the Bible...Jesus Christ says it.
You people are idiots. I can't wait til youtube gets taken down.
TheAbsurdTruth 4 years ago
Oh cool you read every single variation of the bible in all variations of Christianity. Tell me good sir, would you please list them all for us? Seeing as you are so clearly more educated.
CmdrZer0 4 years ago
The Catholic Chruch or any other proclaimed biblical translators could easily have plugged anything they wanted to into the bible during these translations. Plus faced with inductive hypocricy it just might be their way of doing so. There is also the added effect of the latin dilemma in which the only remaining copies of the bible at one point were in latin, a dead language. Thus, the bible has actually secretly been translated many times over the thousands of years spanning.
vargonifir 4 years ago
i agree, it makes you wonder how all these types of christianity came to be, catholics, methodists, jahova witness's, minonites and so on...i believe there is a god, but i'm not going to believe a single denomination's beliefs because they are all so different and catholics just kinda freak me out...but anyways thats a good chance that people with their own thoughts and opinions changed the original word of god...if we had the very original word of god, we'd be ok, but we dont
CritiqueItUp 4 years ago
vargonifir, those are interesting comments you bring up. however, we can sure that the Bible is the same today as it was when it was written. The dead sea scrolls prove this as they were written 2000 years ago, and are the same as the texts we have today. Peace.
DDDDDDDD35 4 years ago
Well, I never said I was referring to that particular portion of the Bible. I'm mainly referring back to the old testament which is reasonably larger than the new testament.
vargonifir 4 years ago
And watever so happened to those who weren't "happy" w/ God & tried to express their religion in China? Can you tell me where they are? Oh wait they just join God in the heavens perfect!!! :D
kris2pe 5 years ago
The only reply I have to this is my personal opinion-
I don't necessarily believe in a Christian god. I do believe in some higher power. That higher power can show itself in other ways. The interpretation of this higher power is the difference between religions.
Though apparently it's BLASPHEMY for me to say so. xD
In which case, I'm going to hell. Wheeee.
greylondonskies 5 years ago
God is sometimes a way to explain the unexplainable. For example, A lot of science that we (as humanity) have said was God's doing, and yet some of these things that had been the doing of God have been proven by science. I'm not saying I don't believe in a/any god, but that we as humanity have used the "God" as an explination for things that we don't know why they occur. I don't feel I'm being very specific but I think you will understand what I am saying.
superkuddu 5 years ago
i've found there is usually a reasonable explanation for most things that happen in our world. science is generally good at answering the "hows". Religion is for the "whys". people aren't so good yet at accepting cold logic. they want to believe it is for another reason.
mistaspot1 5 years ago
I actually new very little on the subject, but wanted to put it out there anyways. :] But thanks to you, i now know a little bit more on the subject. Thanks.
superkuddu 5 years ago
I don't know if my last comment was posted, but I pretty much said that the planes that were in 9-11 flew out of Logan International Airport in Boston. So, at least proper precautions. My mom works in Boston and I live near it, so I'm glad they weren't bombs and they were Lite Bright things...? Ahahaha thats so weird. And whats up with that Fox video clip? "Umm thats not a hair question!" Hahaha
alannax91 5 years ago
I live 40 minutes outside of Boston, and my mom commutes there everyday for work. I know the Lite Bright thing was stupid and kinda funny, but some people forget that the planes in 9-11 left Logan Airport. So at least they were taking the proper precautions. Ok, now I'm going to finish watching your video :)
alannax91 5 years ago
Hi Scott. I'm a big fan of your videos. I believe I read about the last point you made about God being the 'uncaused cause' in "Fagothey's Right and Reason- Ethics in Theory and Practice." Keep up the good work!
nikki376 5 years ago
I've heard this argument many times before. Science and logic cannot apply to the supernatural. So go away. But without a good reason to believe in something, why/how can you believe it? How can you believe in a god if, to you, there is as much reason to believe in an invisible green goblin floating above my head? So, you believe there is a reason. So, we can take a look if it is a valid reason to believe in something or not.
ExposeTheDream 5 years ago
Atheists believe in evolution right ? Well there's no reason to believe man crawled out of the primordial soup believing in God. So we must have evolved into it (believing in God), and with evolution being a good thing, then God must be a good thing.
IndBill57 5 years ago
By that argument, all human beliefs are good things. And that is ridiculous. Try again.
ExposeTheDream 5 years ago
why is there no reason to believe 'man crawled out of the primordial soup believing in God'?
an intelligent being would not be so intelligent if the idea had not occured to him...
mistaspot1 5 years ago
the Flying spagetting monster exists! he came to me in a dream last night and told me that he would send a child to Keith Richards and this child would be the second coming of christ!
Hilariousity 5 years ago
hi utnow, while agnosticism and atheism are 2 distinct ideas, they are not mutually exlusive. without belief in god(s) is not a position of belief itself. this would be akin to calling a shoestore a hatstore simply because they don't sell hats. a person can exist as an agnostic atheist, there is no collision involved. please do further research on the actual meaning of the word atheism, thanks.
quannump 5 years ago
lol, agnosticism is a lack of evidence... atheism is believing in no god... so yeah, they are mutually exclusive... your example made no sense btw...
dyinginakarkrash 5 years ago
yet you say those two things and there's no conflict in the two, however your definition of both are off a bit. everyone is an agnostic, in the sense that "we don't know" this includes theists as well as atheists. you have faith in your god, not proof of your god.
quannump 5 years ago
exactly. totally agree.
honeydewkids 5 years ago
You reminded me of a book I've partially read... Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance... Great one...
gociii 5 years ago
Here is Gone, dude freakin awesome song.
wouldn't it be hard to prove or disprove something supernatural? we are, after all, just plain natural...
Doodsjager 5 years ago
Gravity does not exist, the earth sucks!!!
taskmaster58 5 years ago
sure. but what the hell is it?
mistaspot1 5 years ago
dude get off relgious subjects you suck at it..
trexx32 5 years ago
scott, its aqua TEEN hunger force, not team. idiot
goingforthegold 5 years ago
Hi Scott :) I'm an Athiest, I don't believe a God exists. But I'm humble enough to admit that I could be ::gasp:: wrong. Will I be an Atheist in ten years? Who knows? People change, grow, have new experiences. I don't think being openminded about others beliefs means I'm not an Atheist.
TheBlessedBlogger 5 years ago
About being scientific...I'm sure you're aware that one of the principles of science is that you can't prove a negative. So saying we have to prove God (or unicorns, santa claus etc) doesn't exist is, well, wrong. The burdon of proof is on the person claiming something DOES exist. I personally don't need any proof, I love, respect and tolerate everyone's beliefs and I'm perfectly happy to never discuss whether a persons beliefs are 'right' or 'wrong' because honestly it doesn't matter.
TheBlessedBlogger 5 years ago
Just so we're all clear on your definition of logic: I have to accept the possibility that anything and everything is true unless there is proof otherwise... even if it makes absolutely no sense? Some whacko says Santa exists, and the burden of proof is on me to say he doesn't? I don't buy it.
plob218 5 years ago
sorry to respond to an old comment but it just bugged me
just becoz you cant unprove something doesnt mean you have to believe in it, you could be in the "agnostic" state, where you dont deny either way
You're looking at it in a black and white state, things can be true-unproven-false not just true-false
CampbellX 4 years ago
If you don't deny either way, then you accept it as a possibility (which is what I said). My point is that just because something isn't unproven doesn't mean it's just as likely to exist as it is to not exist. The concept of God, besides being unproven, is also unlikely, and unnecessary. Just because we don't _know_ what caused the Big Bang is no reason to presume it was some supernatural entity.
plob218 4 years ago
Its not "just as likely", I more likely that it wont exist but until you can prove it doesnt no one should be running around claiming that its impossible, unlikely/improbable doesnt mean false
Its just complete arrogence to state "its impossible for this to exist" when you ahve no proof either way
CampbellX 4 years ago
Thank you so much for saying that ATHF sucks. I thought I was the only one who thought that. It's horrible! This isn't to say that that's all I got out of the video...but, yeah. Cartoon Network really needs some better shows.
raevyn17 5 years ago
Got me thinking. Who's to say that we fully understand nature? Can we truly say/prove that God is supernatural? Maybe the word Supernatural is just to explain what we cannot understand. I believe god created everything. So everything around us is either supernatural or natural. See where I'm going with this?
bpoogas 5 years ago
...so gravity is supernatural? xD
I kid. Gotcha.
greylondonskies 5 years ago
Politics is a much better forum for you than religion. When you get back to that let me know. Until then I'm unsubscribing.
AnointedHeathen 5 years ago
you goddamn pansy.
mistaspot1 5 years ago
If ya want to get a true definition of an atheist all ya have to do is go to a George Carlon concert.
Scsibut 5 years ago
Stop going around in circles. Its new topic brother. You just keep doing more research and blabbering on, Give your own view not the view of others facts.
elsilvan 5 years ago
Dude people use different difinitions for the same word..
Some would call me an agnostic. .because I dont believe there is a god.. but there is a POSSIBILITY
Some would call me a atheist because I LACK beief in a god..
Some say agnostic means- one who believes it is impossible ot proove whether there is or is not a god. I diffently am not that..
thefakeyeti 5 years ago
Part Three:
I applaud your videos!! I firmly believe that I person should not pigeon hole themselves in the realm of one extreme or the other...only stagnation can occur from that. True growth comes from the acknowlegment that there is the possiblity of something else.
ARboiWundr 5 years ago
Part Two:
When I was young, I viewed myself as a Christian. I had faith that there was a god...I never questioned my faith, it was always there. Of course, as I got older I began to question why I believed things the way I did. The older I got, the harder it was to grasp the idea that "Seeing is not believing, believing is seeing."
ARboiWundr 5 years ago
I hate that YouTube has a 500 character minimum. My only solution to this problem is to split my response into three parts.
ARboiWundr 5 years ago
I don't know if it sucks or not, and I'm happy to take your word for it, but I was beginning to wonder if I was the only person around who thought ATHF was not great. See ya on Loowa. -amv
WaywardSun 5 years ago
I watched some ATHF on youtube i think. It had a couple funny things but was mostly boring I thought. Unless you really like talking food.
bpoogas 5 years ago
Mmm...food...
WaywardSun 5 years ago
I like Evil Scott's delivery. However, I think it is far more ridiculous to believe in something you can't prove than it is to not believe in it (Santa Claus for example). The problem with religious nuts is that they want to tell everyone else how to live. They want to force people to pay respect to their delusion. Like putting religious slogans in public buildings. Not everyone's delusional crap. Just their own particular crap.
ad3543 5 years ago
Also, evil Scott, you need to use the dictionary.
Atheist: a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.
Agnostic: # One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
Oddly enough, you can be both of these things.
eurohim 5 years ago
A gay guy likes men
A bisexual guy likes men
are they the same?
polcorpaul 5 years ago
So if it is true about sexuality it is true about everything?
eurohim 5 years ago
Also, riddle me this:
If A implies B, does B imply A?
Not necessarily, but A still implies B.
eurohim 5 years ago
well that depends on what a and b means. lets stick to the sexual references. a=gay b=bi
if a gay guy(a) likes(implies) a bi-sexual guy(b), does the bi-sexual(b) like(implies) the gay guy(b)?
in this case a implies b and b implies a.
polcorpaul 5 years ago
A God is an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent being right? The existence of such a being is impossible and can be disproved by the very paradox that having such a skillset brings fourth. He can't get lost, can't create something so heavy that even he can't lift it, or can't not know what is going to happen in his future.
If you decide not to definate the word "God" then you can't disprove it. Disproving an undefined word is kidna tough.
eurohim 5 years ago
I really need to watch the entire video before I respond. lol
eurohim 5 years ago
Great video.
AdamP152 5 years ago
There's one answer that stands as wholly truth: It's all speculation. All of it. Humans do not know everything, and we should accept that, while being joyous for what we have. Selfish tendencies are those which put us, and our ideas, before others. Remember that.
Easy answer.
Forshman 5 years ago
Hooray, logic.
greylondonskies 5 years ago
This is a great video. I myself am agnostic. Although, I do find myself thinking more and more about Christianity, but my nature makes it hard. I have trouble following something with blind faith. It makes me uncomfortable. Anyway, thank you for this video. You are always great to watch.
elanglerboyd 5 years ago
when you study the universe you have to forget the concept of time. Time is an invention of men
philippe1985 5 years ago
I like evil scott, he should come on the show more :P
Russoft 5 years ago
Hey Scott, I usually really dig your stuff, regardless of if I agree with what you're saying it's always well thought out and presented just as thoughtfully... but this time, you kinda just run in circles for minutes on end. and you run over ground you've walked before in previous vids. Was disappointed in that I found nothing new here this time.
Blunty3000 5 years ago
I felt the same way... but I promised a response... I felt obligated to deliver. ;) But of course the up-side is that I've had an extraordinarily long time to come up with fresh topics, so I'll be back with a vengeance next time around. :P
utnow 5 years ago
i thought that whole boston/aqua teen thing was just stupid, thanks mr. police man!
JuMpThEcOuCh 5 years ago
Great video. You need to watch those sound levels. At some points during the video the music overwhelms the voice track, and it was a bit confusing.
Kzanderall 5 years ago
I completely agree that you cannot prove the supernatural by scientific method. I believe in Jesus. What happened to me on the day of my salvation was not of this world. That is my belief and conviction. I love your videos, Scott. :)
madamoisele1 5 years ago
An Atheist is not one who declares there is no God. An Atheist is just one who lacks a belief in God. You are saying the only Atheist is a "Strong Atheist", and that is clearly not true.
YDOAPS 5 years ago
Agreed. Atheism doesn't mean being a closeminded jerk who refuses to acknowledge they could be wrong. I don't think the Tooth Fairy exists either but I could be wrong. People are confusing fanatacism with religion and apparently think that all Atheists (or Christians) are these in-your-face-I'm-right-your wrong-no-room-for -discussion fanatics and it's simply not true. They're a vocal minority, they don't speak for us all. Jeez I hate stereotypes.
TheBlessedBlogger 5 years ago
UTNow is basically saying, flipping sides of the argument to make it more clear, that if one is not a fundamentalist Christian, then one is not a Christian. Now, that clearly isn't true, is it?
YDOAPS 5 years ago
That's what I was saying as well. If a Buddhist or Christian or Pagan says "I believe this thing, but I admit that it's physically possible that I'm wrong so I'm willing to discuss your beliefs." then they aren't really a Buddhist or Christian or Pagan? I can be humble, open-minded and question my own beliefs and still be an Atheist.
TheBlessedBlogger 5 years ago
i dont believe in god, i believe in myself
though even thats tough most times....
am1gv 5 years ago
assumption of supernatural is allways laughable, that alone makes the concept of god improbable.
surGeonGG 5 years ago
Are you going to spam this video with your narrow minded bigotry as well? Your entire argument, all of them, are founded on this statement: "belief in something unseen is stupid"
utnow 5 years ago
For starters, improbable is far from false. You should know that. Second, you're applying natural logic to supernatural concepts. By definition they exist (or don't) outside of our ability to grasp them. Third, that our universe exists is a pretty damn good proof that something put it there. Something that isn't constrained by your simplistic view of 'what you see is what you get'.
utnow 5 years ago
That being said, I don't give a damn what you believe. But I'll not have anyone calling those who have equally invalid and unsubstantiated opinions from their own stupid. And certainly not you.
utnow 5 years ago
i know improbable isn't false and that's why i've never said it's impossible for a god to exist. when people like richard dawkins says god doesn't exists they say it just like i say you exist, i can't prove you exist but it's probable in the face of the EVIDENCE...
and yes, i am applying natural logic to supernatural concepts because if you have to claim supernaturality then you've allready lost because supernatural things are improbable...
surGeonGG 5 years ago
everything we can't rattle up evidence or any type of basis for is improbable.
That something put it there? yes... that a conciouss being put it there? NO, i can't even see why you'd think that, nothing we've ever experienced leads us to belive that's the case..
could this process be supernatural (whatever that would mean)? sure, could it be natural? yea. doesn't really matter because it's the conciousness BEING that's the problem here.
surGeonGG 5 years ago
and my argument whole argument isn't founded on "belief in something unseen is stupid"... it's founded on "belief in something for which there is no to very little basis is stupid" and i'd say it's a damn valid statement.
surGeonGG 5 years ago
Dawkins has never said that god's existence is impossible, he's just saying it's improbable and beliving there is one is stupid... and he's right.
and YES, it is improbable because it goes against everything we know, nothing begins with a conciousness because conciousness is complicated, there is infinitely more likely it's a non concious process... if you invent a concept that goes against established theory then it's obiouvsly improbable.
surGeonGG 5 years ago
where did utnowsucks go?
ebaymag0t 5 years ago
You sound like Socrates. You don't want to teach, but you want people to have the ability to know wtf they are saying and not to regurgitate information.
TylerSpilker 5 years ago
Dawkins is a moron..
BlackKingX 5 years ago
poor evil scott needs a hug
ericpid 5 years ago
First... maybe.
sinroe 5 years ago