656 Excalibur Fireworks Shells at Mess's

[gregzach1]

wow

[svtkilr]

Smoke n mirrors are better them excaliburs

[theDARKSTEP]

@svtkilr Search PyroUniverse for endless discussions on the best canister shells. Years/effects/brands/symmetry etc. From what I know is that Smokenmirrors (silver salute by phantom) has some more colorful effects. It's usually a matter of preference but 2007 excals are missed.Give your reasons and all will appreciate your opinion. Most people have pros and cons about each brand and usually agree that there is not ONE superior product overall. Especially from year to year.

[jvander68]

thats 27 boxes times 70.00 a box 24 shells in a box equals 1890.00 smackers lol

[spigotman]

Excalibur is EXCLUSIVELY producing Pro Shells and Exterminator for BigFireworks and run around 100.00 a case.4 boxes of 24 shells.So 96 shells for 100.00.Not bad at 1.00 a shell

[deathrott]

as a proud owner of excalibur shells for some reason i cud of sworn the effects are crazier than those

[djkub1]

and thats about what $1700 looks like when it burns.

[lardsiny]

i meen its cool but u should spread them out so it can light a larger area not jus this one little spo

[fendersnfireworks]

talk about a lot of debrie!

[countyingula]

i tihnk it woulda've been better if you cut it in hald and d mixed in a couepl other kits. along with a few really big heavy salutes, and some 2-3 inch mortars. that woulda really bumped this up a notch

[flightoftheunknown]

I prefer to make a handheld launcher and shoot them like grenades at passing cars.

[countryredman]

get er done

[jgdogg441]

@countryredman god how ferociously cliche

[PsychoPyro21]

how did yall set them up to go of that fast

[XGiftedGamerX]

Sounds like a beat.... :D

Like drums.

[trousien]

excals are really loud...

[mtaylor017]

cool cool .. .. ..use excaliburs every 4th and new years eve. best 1.4g shell for the money.

[Leny1777]

Theres a War!

[pyroprofession]

This is the first shoot for the excall record breaker, The second shoot was many more shells. I thing it was 830 shells all excalls, nothing else!

[Tampaslice]

Good stuff! Any true blooded fireworks junkie could watch these shells til sunrise!

[soverato3]

can you buy those shell kits the hole year in italy???

[phybergod]

did you use the yellow quick fuse they have right there at Mess's? Or something else?

[pyroprofession]

@phybergod Everything used was available at mess. we used mostly visco

[pyroprofession]

@phybergod i dont remember useing quick visco, just daisy chained them all.

[wowthatwasloud]

Would have been better with some angled . Still awesome

[pyroprofession]

@wowthatwasloud  Thanks from me, but many helped

[pyroprofession]

@wowthatwasloud I agree. At the time I didnt have many angled racks, I have enough to do this again with angled.

[waterfowlconnection]

that has to be a record for the most expensive sky PUKE ever for a consumer shoot....

[drgoedken]

Can shells by nature are not all that symmetrical....just how it's all packed in a cylinder instead of a ball...

roxanastud21...it really depends on what part of the country you're in...as to which shells are avail. to you. KoDs are nice..Excals, Hard-n-Heavies and Super Mags....again..depends on where u are in the country

[roxanastud21]

this year im buying a shit load of artillery shells and doing my own show and last year i found out about a shell call "kiss of death" there truely amazing and people sent me some messages about what kind i should get.

[noharmdun]

if they could make the breaks more semetrical, i'd say these can't be beat.

[qcages]

for a finale it's great to mix cylinder shells with some ball shells with tails, having tails in a finale really makes it cover the whole sky, and you will get some really symmetrical bursts a little lower and in front of the massive can shell bursts.

[pyroprofession]

@qcages Thanks but we were going for the excall (and only excalls) largest shoot.

I agree with you about hitting height stages.

[GezStickman]

listen to them fire out of the motars, sounds like damn artillery.

[briauc]

I love excalibur shells and Phoenix shells are probably my second favorite. What's bigger? i hear black mambas are good but never seen one.

[llamamodel]

Black Mambas are close to Excals, but Excals definitely take the cake. Excals have larger breaks and more variety in color and effects.

[pyroprofession]

@llamamodel Thank You! I agree with you. But these days people say thers is the best (just because that is what they sell) cant blame them to much, the setores that sell black momba shells are normally owned by winco. And you cant cut down your own brand.

[TBucket5]

this video doesnt do this show justice. I bet that was amazingly loud in person

[pyroprofession]

YES it was!! I lit it off!! And paid for it

[caraudioman16]

holy shit, 24 of these cost $75. That was expensive for 656 of them

[jonvvp]

Wholesale is around $160 for a case that contains 6 boxes or 144 shells.

Retail is for suckers!!

[xstevenmaox]

lol at hamco?

[jonvvp]

Victory, they have the best selection of shells out there ; )

[SinghayChanSSS]

where can i get this for wholesale???

i spend $160 for only 2 boxes containing 48 shells...please let me know

[jonvvp]

Depends on how much you spend.

Victory Fireworks sells them for $220 a case and they dont have a minimum purchase but if you dont live in WI then you have to pay to have them shipped. If you spend over $800 then the price drops to $160 a case.

There are wholesalers listed all over the internet. The more you spend.. the less you pay. I spend around $1200 a year and when you spend that much 500g cakes are only $10-$15 apiece.

[jonvvp]

Just do an internet search for "fireworks wholesaler". If you live in a state that allows year round sales of fireworks then there should be one near you.

[ndnguy35]

heres a secret. I live in nevada & they cost 170 for 2 boxes. but during the 4th of july in a small town of Gallup new mexico..the exacaliber cost 37.00 for 24 shot.  I get them there every year..last year they were 34.99. next year i plan to buy 10

[CrazyDood69]

Man, that just starts to get boring after a while. Same shells one after another, like a video loop. Filling the sky with the same thing for 3 minutes is a waste of money.

[theDARKSTEP]

to each their own.

[CrazyDood69]

True. Some people like watching the same exact thing for 3 minutes straight. Even in person it would get boring. You gotta mix it up some how. That's the difference between pure sky puke and a great show. It's also much easier to just fuse a bunch of one thing. But, you're right, to each their own.

[briauc]

saturn missiles help with that.

[pyroprofession]

@CrazyDood69 I bet if you were at this shoot, you would think different.!! It is just a time to do something NO one else has EVER DONE. This was fun. To do this, we had about 15 people work all day.. We were not trying to do the best show of the year, Just the most ex calls at once

[kingofquartz]

@pyroprofession

No one else has ever done? I used 864 excals at my show last year lol But they where mixed with iron revengers just to add in some tails. But I have to admit.. seeing this very video was my inspiration ; )

Going to video my show this year and post it on the tube. Not going with as many excals this time.. just two cases. Should be a nice mix with cobra shells, shotgun shells, revengers and hammer shells.

[kingofquartz]

@pyroprofession

Quick question.. do you know the failure rate? Out of all my excals only two failed to fire and came back down in one piece. Interesting to see that they have two time fuses side by side.. must be the reason for the low failure rate.

[CrazyDood69]

@pyroprofession I was at a shoot this year where we put up 3,000 shells. We had 50 people working 3 days on it. It's awesome in person, boring on video, that's all I meant.

[cactuschris2002]

@CrazyDood69 you sir, are mentally defective. The title cleary states what the video contains, and i think it rocks.

[CrazyDood69]

@cactuschris2002 Actually, when you've seen it in person, it's kinda boring on video, that's what I meant I guess. If you think it rocks on video, go see one in person and you'll poop ur pants!

[fireworksman1919]

@But probably actually being there you would probably get really entertained and stunned

[pyroprofession]

any one who was present durring this shoot would disagree!

It was a awesome time because it is a world record in progress.

We were not trying to impress anyone except ourselves.

I am interested to see if we have had anyone beat this record??

To each their own, as darkstep2 sad.

[LSUBOY74]

10000 degree artilley are better,look at my new years 08-09 vid to see em-thanks

[CrazyDood69]

Yeah, I heard about those shells. Would love to try some but none around here!! :|

[pyroprofession]

Yeah same here, we did divide them up, but the whole thing was set up in a few hours. We did another shoot with 883? shells, excalls, we didnt mix the FOA dhells into it. The FOA shells have a longer fuse timing so it is hard to mix them. i also have the (all of them) FOA versions, but they may be better without the crackle stuff.

[theriot617]

ex's are the best i ever encountered

[hatsgoods]

its awsome to have a comsumer grade firework kit that looks like a 1.3g

[pyroprofession]

I would like to see ANY ONE set up and TOP our display, just ti know, we have sinse doe a 883 excall shoot in June , 2008.

[pyroprofession]

Excalls and the FOA version as lock and load are TOTALLY EQUAL!! I should know!!! I import thousands of these things every year and try them all out.

[Georgiapyro]

one word SWEET

[twixbod]

Excal's suck, J/K Excal's and sweet 16 are my fave shells, Nice vid!

[booker357mag]

Excals dont suck.. come on buddy. Big Bad Bangers really impressed me last year though.. definately getting a case for new years.

[strobingthunder]

way to much crackle in these shells.

im guessing these are what you consumer guys call the best.

[kingofquartz]

They are considered by some to be the best consumer shells. I prefer the newly relseased big bad bangers.. but blowing up tons of them would get boring.

Got to mix up the racks or you see the same thing too many times. Crackle does have its place.. but I HATE cakes that end with crackle.

[pyroprofession]

You have no idea dude,I sell thousands of the things, and try them out. EC and sweet 16, BBB, and all. All foa products are slower in fuse time then WC. Its a matter of if you like slow fuse or slight faster fuse

[pyroprofession]

sweet 16 is a foa shell equal to excalls. Just depends what type of effect is compared to ? whatever excall shell. Believe me, I have lit thousands of each. The big difference is the fuse, excalls are faster then s16, s16 is also same as lock n load, and big bad banger. Just different effects/ different count# of shells.

[DiMeNsloNs]

Yeah im about to do the fireworks at Stardust drive inn in tennessee. Looks like this is the best bang for my buck with a few 12 shots added in with my finale

[booker357mag]

MUST GET MORE EXCALS next year and pop off about 300 of them in my finale! Damn.. that is really something.

[booker357mag]

One looks like it detonated in the tube! Anyone else catch that?

[guitar320]

yeah at 38 sec. looked like a starmine

[th3husker]

@guitar320 30 dollars whole sale

[kwallkk]

Yep, that happened, good catch.

[slayer544]

Mess's does a show?

[judgejgamertag]

wow that's nuts.. i picked up a boxes of these on the 4th. 40 bucks at the indian reservation in Seattle. But this was when the stands were closing so they were getting rid of their stock.

[judgejgamertag]

wow that's nuts.. i picked up a boxes of these on the 4th. 40 bucks at the indian reservation in Seattle. But this was when the stands were closing so they were getting rid of their stock.

[3h8m5u]

i had a set some of these last year they were so loud when they leave the tube and each one is pretty big compared to artillery shells

[theDARKSTEP]

These excals were sponsored by MESS'S fireworks of Great bend PA. myspace dot com/messfireworks

[Andy851]

holy shit that is insane ! and it must be expensive too. here in ohio excals cost $100+ probably cause there illegal here :)

[theDARKSTEP]

they are less than 60$ a box of 24 FULL RETAIL.

[killerace2014]

yup we go and get two every year cause we got somebody who sells to us 2 for the price of one

[narnianhero]

@theDARKSTEP Yeah that's what I pay for them in Texas at the retail stores. I just got 48 and a zillion other things for my little show last year. :D A dozen high school and college students kept things alive without fancy synchronization. How do you time so many excalibur shells?

[xfacekickerx]

@Andy851 there is a place in indian you get a 54 shot excal for 75.00 website is WFOUTLET.com 6 miles west of ohio border

[JonFromOhio]

@Andy851 not if you know where to get em.. i live right outside of cleveland and i get for 37.75 a box of 24

[Andy851]

@JonFromOhio Thanks, I started buying wholesale a while ago and its the only way to go if you buy any significant amount of fireworks.

[SkyHighPyro]

@Andy851

NO, your just getting ripped off....