The Mormon Whitewash Wears Thin On Mountain Meadows Massacre 512

[MrMFHORN]

Rubbish from the pits of hell.

[Ahashdah]

OTHER FORMS OF WHITE-WASH:

1) THE so-called BRETHREN function as "regulators", when talks are given, at Gen'l Conf. a) Case in point: a talk by Elder Poelman, of the 1st (?) Quorum of the Seventy, giving an interesting talk, in ~1981. I took good notes, when he spoke; and, I liked what he had to say. The "Regulators" sanitized the GA's talk, by re-working it, for the May Ensign issue. Whitewash!

2) Broom-sweep Apostle Boyd Packer whitewashed evidence, in the Paul H. Dunn fiasco...

[Ahashdah]

Hi, gene (probably not your real name, but it doesn't matter).

INTERESTINGLY, it was converts that continued to complain about the throat-slitting & disemboweling, in the OLD ceremony of the endowment, that got it changed, in 1990. I am a witness, to that: my first temple experience was a very lon time ago, and my most-recent (and ultimately my last), was in the 1990s. (I've been out of Mo'ism, now, since my resignation letter, ~15 yrs ago).

"The ENDOWMENT will never change." ---Jos. F. Smith

[genexrollins]

@Ahashdah there is another facet of that too, Brenda Lafferty was brutally murdered along with her infant daughter according to the way prescribed by LDS temple penalties in 1984 over a spat about LDS doctrine with her MORmON In laws. LDS Inc may have realized they needed to knock off their brutalistic temple crap, because certain ppl actually took it seriously just the way the LDS cult suggests. Then again LDS Inc may be so insensitive/stupid that Brenda's Murder never registered with them.

[Ahashdah]

I love your video. This is good satire!

P.S: I have never ONCE heard any Mormon "distance themself" from MMM, by roundly condemning those atrocities!

When I had heard that (now dead) Apostle David B Haight had been born into a family that would not have had children had Isaac O. Haight (David's grandfather) been executed--along with that singular scapegoat, John D. Lee--for his own role, as a commander, giving orders to other MORmONS, at MMM, I see a church that loves its murderers.

[genexrollins]

@Ahashdah the fact is the MORmON religion is a spiteful hateful blood thirsty religion, Its written into the BOM (1st 4 chapts) & in the MORmON temple ceremony.

[slodeth5]

genexrollins, You are a very sad, childish individual, still -- I wish you well and hope you may someday find some measure of peace and truth in your life. Goodbye.

[genexrollins]

@slodeth5 yah if only I could still believe in MORmONISM & Santa Claus!

IF only I could believe that God was so stupid &cruel that He really did set up all of his children to be eternally condemned, except for a very few who manage to get a PERVERT Joe Smith brand baptism. I have NO need for MORmON style *reason*, *peace*, *Truth*, *Maturity*, *Happiness* or *Love* ! because its all really just BULL SHIT ! MORmON !

[slodeth5]

Being Catholic, Hindu, or any other religion must be on your list, too, because people shouldn't have the right to choose to live with any other belief than what you approve of, should they? The L.D.S church condems what happened and the man that ordered the attack was excomunicated. The Mormons were raped, murdered, burned and driven out of the midwest for their beliefs. The party was threatening them with the same treatment. It's sad what happened but your comments and others are mostly false.

[genexrollins]

@slodeth5 "The L.D.S church condems what happened"

*but only for face saving PR purposes, if they thought they could, LDS would make MMM into a Utah State Holiday.

"& the man that ordered the attack was excomunicated."

*No, Brigham Young was never Ex- ed.

" The Mormons were raped, murdered, burned and driven out of the midwest for their beliefs."

*Only to the extent that LDS *beliefs* include CRIMINAL activity! which explains a lot! No wonder the LDS CRIMINALS were kicked out !

[genexrollins]

@slodeth5 "The Mormons were raped, murdered, burned and driven out of the midwest for their beliefs."

YES! they were! & it is impossible to take MORmON Whining about persecution seriously since Brigham Young & Joe Smith burned, robbed, raped, crippled, maimed, murdered,& ruined more LDS BY FAR than any mobs ever did! its not ever close, but MORmONS go on whining about anyway !

[genexrollins]

@slodeth5 "Being Catholic, Hindu, or any other religion must be on your list, too,"

No, MORmONISM has already attacked those other faiths so much that we feel no need to ! &U OVIOUSLY still want to!

"The Mormons were raped, murdered, burned and driven out of the midwest for their beliefs. The (Fancher) party was threatening them with the same treatment."

BS! Thats almost as big of a lie as Joe Smith's Gold plates scam ! You are a true MORmON! Lying your ass off over LDS BS!

[zenguin13]

Love this video! It's totally baseless and false but it still pisses off Mormons who still believe that the whole massacre was a defensive action. Truth is that Brigham Young ordered the whole attack and made JD Lee the scapegoat.

It's obvious the Mormons wanted to make it look like the Indians did it.

The fact is that the US army would have attacked Salt Lake City for this crime if it weren't for the civil war being more relevant.

It was payback for the murder of Joseph Smith in Missouri

[zenguin13]

@zenguin13 I need to ammed my statement that Smith was killed in Missouri. In fact he and his brother were lynched by an angry mob in Illinios while awaiting trial for capital offences.

[genexrollins]

@zenguin13 "It was payback for the murder of Joseph Smith in Missouri"

a payback in the most nonsensical blindly lashing out at anything fashion, truly a MORmON style action.

[zenguin13]

@genexrollins I have studied this important part of American history and mormons own records of the event. I wrote a screenplay that covers the mass murder in Arkansas by haters of the cult right thru to the mountain meadows debacle. Lee was tried inabstentia and later found at his ferry on the colorado river and executed complete with his last words. Scapegoated, he actually tried to stop the action before it happened. I presented it to Sundance before realizing Redford's wife is a Mormon.

[zenguin13]

@zenguin13 To my knowledge no movie has ever been made about it, which is a shame. This needs to be written in the texts of the history of America. Unfortunately it's been suppressed by the money and influence that even recently caused the prop 8 referendum in California on Gay marriage. Thankfully the circut 9 court has overturned the referendum and now it looks like it will be heard in the Supreme court. Imagine that polygimists would be against Gay marriage? Hypocrites and murderers..lds

[zenguin13]

@zenguin13 Oh, did I mention thet the book of mormon is blatently racist?

[slodeth5]

@zenguin13 As I travel throughout the country, I see numerous battlefields were Native Americans were unjustifiably attacted and killed by U.S. Army forces. There's material enough in history for telling tradgedies. Miss communication and or greed are usually the cause of these kinds of actions. Most of the comments from this video are completely false and uninformed even though those people making them think they are right. It's sad to hear baseless thoughts without them knowing the truth.

[zenguin13]

@slodeth5 Yes there were many despicable and wholly wrong atrocities done by the white man against native Americans. It's been well documented. This doesn't alter the fact that mormons commited horrible acts of violence against pilgrims who had nothing to do with the death of the "prophets" of the lds. We all know about wounded knee and the trail of tears. What I'm suggesting is that not enough people realize what Brig Young did, very few people know the truth about the MMM.

[genexrollins]

@slodeth5 I *love* Utah Senator & big shot MORmON Orrin Hatch's comment on MORmON persecution, He states emphatically that the LDS are the only religious group in US history to ever have an extermination order issued against them. Yah so MORmONISM can take center stage for the handful of Mormons that died in counter attacks to MORmON initiated violence, while the 1000's of Red Men's deaths/travails just dont count because his *savage* religion does not count either. MORmONS!

[mlja11]

I think you may have once been a mormon.

[mlja11]

I graduated summa-cum-laude from a top 25 University! You should read through the comments I have written, I never said what happened to the Fancher/ Baker wagon train was in any way right! It was another sick tragic piece of history in the world of religion.

The only reason I commented on this lack luster video is so people would read my comments and inquire about the book written about The Mountain Meadow Massacre or at least watch the documentary by Eric Young (NOT a Mormon)!

[genexrollins]

@mlja11 you should keep studying, until you can realize just how uninformed you really are.

[mlja11]

Defending themselves? Do you condemn the catholic church for the religous crusade?

[genexrollins]

@mlja11 Only the most MORmONIC of MORmONS could find any defensive measure in MORmON assault & MASS MURDER of the Fancher/ Baker wagon train. YOU ARE SO STUPID! You said you majored in religion. Uhhh, did you manage to graduate? Not that it matters, because you are a total idiot, regardless. thanks for openly shoving your own lack of crediblity up your own ass! MORmON!

[mlja11]

You are possibly one of the angriest people I have ever spoken with. I understand that you may not have much of a vocabulary base and further more, you have less knowledge about religion than you do about the english language.

YOU! don't go pointing fingers. I majored in religion, I have mormon friends, and you sir are completely wrong about this religion! You are a tyrant who just needs an avenue to be heard!

That being said, Do not write me back and verbally harass me! I

[genexrollins]

@mlja11 with all your mighty religious majoring *acumen* & *mastery* of the (sic) "english" language you must have totally forgotten what you were doing. You stupid fucking cunt. I am pointing fingers at you -the mouthy stupid fucking cunt.

[mlja11]

This not a good depiction of what mormons believe. The Mountain Meadow Massacre was an atrocious piece of history in that religion; however, I would like to remind you that this church did not sanction the massacre. I would also like to remind you that throughout history there have been many massacres, wars, and terrorist acts done in the name of church. Do not go pointing fingers young one.

[genexrollins]

@mlja11 "Do not go pointing fingers young one." I will be pointing fingers at your criminal enterprise LDS INC cult church &You will not be telling me what to do you GOD DAMNED MORmON! Stupid ass MORmON incessantly bitch about what happened to them in Missouri & they brought all of it on themselves,then when someone brings up MMM MORmONS start up with their two faced spin lie& deny BS about it being too far in the past to worry about & its not possible to really understand what happened.MORmONS!

[genexrollins]

@mlja11 "This not a good depiction of what mormons believe. " and yet MORmONS are constantly found in this very type of mode!

[Sambucacat]

What language is this child speaking?

[IExposeMormonism]

@Sambucacat That would be "Reformed Egyptian" . Or, perhaps, "Primitive Mormonese". But whatever the language spoken, it's not the truth.

[genexrollins]

Have you seen the original video of the brain dead MORmON chick mindlessly spouting off on in total ignorance about MMM & Kolob that inspired /motivated making this send up? She was so embarassed that she pulled her video ! LMAO! She really did keep going after her hair just like that.

[moparmonster1965]

Can you post the original? This is going to be so much funnier with the original point of reference.

[ddiiaa52]

What they did to theFancher-Baker emigrants was horrible. All the mormons do is lie and whitewash everything. And to just leave them in the desert for two years. Little babies and children..OMG!

[sle1984]

what a bunch of crap. why waste your time making fun of others. get a life.

[genexrollins]

"what a bunch of crap" yes it is crap and it is completely derived form MORmONS & MORmONISM -the source of crap. WHY? because it is so much fun & such a step up from baptizing dead people & paying for new LDS INC. malls.

[IExposeMormonism]

"BaurakAle7" has the original real girl. Both are pretty funny.

[IExposeMormonism]

I remember this girl. She had many good points. mostly on the top of her head. And she can count to ten.Between bombing the Temple on 911 in a secret ritual, the Mountain Men Marched Terrorists and poisoned large rivers with wagons full of arsenic they brought for one purpose: to murder our Indians and Women. They also brought bull whips and killed many chickens by snapping their little heads off. (Curiously they never ate any of those chickens, hungry as they were) It was scarey.I'm Mormon now

[firstbaldwin]

I spotted the fat stupid MORmON bitch that this video is making fun of. God what a fat ugly stupid hog! Its amazing that anyone could be that stupid! Its amazing that anyone that stupid & so obviously WRONG would insist on leaving the video of themselves up on internet.

WHY doesn't the stupid bitch just have a tattoo that says "stupid" put on her forehead !

[sle1984]

dude. are you mentally challenged?

[genexrollins]

no, I am not the one doing baptisms for dead people. I am not the one doing dead baptims to make Adolf Hitler into a MORmON. I am the one laughing at mentally challenged MORmON people like you who do dead baptisms. I know this is hard for you to keep straight, that is why you had to ask. just go stand in front of the mirror & chant "HEALTH IN THE NAVEL, MORmONISM IN MY BRAIN"

for a few hours. IT will help you remember that YOU are the MORmON.

[Bobbydo125]

genexrollins, you are about as low as you can go on the food chain. You don't even know the true story. Someone told you to get a life. I don't think you know how to get a life. But again you are already a low life chewing and the bottom of the food chain. If you only knew how stupid you sound.

[genexrollins]

well Boobydo125 here youy are going after me, while your MORmON founder screwed other mens wives & pinned the blame on God, Brigham was a MURDERER & Gordon Hinckley funded the 2002 Olympic bid scandal. ITs just so typically MORmON ! Thaks MORmON!

[Bobbydo125]

Shows how stupid you you are with my comment you are convinced that I am a Mormon. I am not Mormon! You just like to hear yourself talk. There is always people like you that just have to some kind of purpose to put other people down. I know you are not the righteous person you think you are. Leave other people alone and worry about yourself. One more thing. Get a better life if you can. I will not response to anymore stupidity.

[genexrollins]

oh yah another non member compelled to defend the Mormons due to all the injustice heaped on the poor poor latter day saints. That bit is SOOOO old.

act li

[genexrollins]

act like a MORmON, get treated like a MORmON

[firstbaldwin]

Awesome video. This is about how stupid Lame Ass Mormon BS stories really get as LDS. Inc insists on whitewashing its evil past & history.

& brainless MORmON members are used as LDS Inc puppets. MORmONISM is disgusting sham that totally depends on maintaining a great looking facade to deceive people. It started with Joe Smith lies & just keeps lying to prop up the first lie.

[Ilegalplayer]

(EVIL MORMONS) The Mountain Meadows massacre involved a mass slaughter of the Fancher-Baker emigrant wagon train at Mountain Meadows in the Utah Territory by the local MORMON militia in September 1857...All of the party were killed, except for a few children under 8 years old. Some infants were killed while in their mothers arms.After the massacre, the corpses of the victims were left decomposing for two years on the open plain... auxiliaries executed approximately 120 men, women and children...

[awolLDSasap]

HaHA! This is true! If you want to hear fairy stories find the closest mormon. The fruit has not fallen far from the tree. Joseph Smith = great story teller and believed in magic. All mormon writers will distort truth and make it flowery. The real doctrine of the LDS church is hidden from potential dupes. All of these fairy doctrines are blasphemies and most onlookers can see it right away.