Peter Greenaway, cinema = dead

[antilego1self]

Titanic.

[kezadrone]

What a load of bollocks. If Hollywood started getting back to real movies instead of crappy curned out shit this would not need to happen. This guy's a nut case.

[FibrousAcquiescence]

And I thought he was going to critique modern cinema! Aha. He did make chuckle, he did.

[arriflex1980]

This guy is paid by many companies and multimedia companies. And he is first man of tv any way tv is dead since internet is on we do not need tv at home (compact slave machine). Some people want console it will give all experiences that this moron is trying to discover for the world. Some people like theatre some people like cinema some people like drugs question of preference. Artist as person above rest that will be finish soon.But Greenway likes to be artist that's he's problem

[MrFpenteado]

Its a bit sad to see someone of the stature of Greenaway saying that Cinema is dead and was killed by the remote control. I think he should cut the bullshit and do what it does best which is making movies. But I suppose he is getting quite a sum by this TV company to do this playstation movies and switchboards. Im not indulgent. Some of the best artists often go through a period of decline in their later years and some even, after a peak period, drop to mediocrity.

[sophiaf8]

@MrFpenteado i think you should study your cinema and its origins and realize that cameras were firstly invented because of the desire to be able to see what the eye cannot see, not to be enterteined with stories you can see in books.

To say that the cinema is dead means that cinema is back on its track because of the new technologies. And ofcourse it was killed by the remote, cinema is to be seen not at home but i a theatre, without pausing or zapping. Its a matter of formats

[revtevye]

This guy is a true genius.

[umaralansari]

Here's the case of a man who's easily bored and craves constant audio-visual stimulation... I should like to know how long he would last in a sensory depravation exercise... I suspect he would be psychotic within a matter of hours...

[Sandbag209]

whether or not you like him or his work, at least he's trying to do something interesting

[gyufuli]

@Sandbag209 agreed.

[lidouskaya]

haha he said the exactly same things in this particular order in athens this year.he keeps on repeating himself ,but he is the best ...

[cineasta71]

way way ahead of its time...for now a bit misunderstood like a lot of visionaries...

[dickhalloran]

he is brave to go so far to the moon but ultimately it will be the story tellers he so despises that takes his architecture and turns it into something meaningful/important. but then there are filmmakers like Von Trier / Lynch who are already doing that within the established medium and not alienating it. Still, Greenaway is doing important work. He is ahead of his time, by 20 years... will be ultra HD immersive 3D screens, he is setting some interesting precedent

[06371671]

He makes parody impossible.

[garissonangel]

The touble with Greenaway is that he's such a pompous ass. He has [had] some good ideas, he's made some good films, but when he opens his mouth.... struth!

[videorgasmatic]

Randal85, if you think Greenaway movies are sick what are you doing watching videos about him? ...don´t waste your time hating

[Randal85]

I've seen some of his moveis. Some say thay are most artistic and somewhat genious, I think they are sick, disgusting and narrow-minded. After this point, I can't give a damn to what he thinks about movies and cinema....

In other words: go fuck yourself Greenaway ^^

[Brigittolina]

There will be cinema until people need it, and VJing if people need it. VJing works differently from cinema. It has to follow the music, create a sinergy,make you dance and dream. Greenaway makes great images, but I saw he cannot VJ! He also uses the wrong technology. His software seems better for linear storytelling than for VJing! Good marketing for VJs though. I hope he will keep making movies, and show them in clubs, why not?

[MiesAnthrophy]

I think he needs to check out the work of Eclectic Method to get on the right track if he's serious about VJing.

[nunhov]

The cinema was dead for this guy also 50 years ago and the real cinema has nothing to do with moneymakers from LA.

This one from GB is an aggressive manager of "projects".

His s.c.aesthetics are very similar to English breakfast: энергия поджариваемого сала, много шумных брызг.

The stupid idiots follows.

The true cinema is killing time, not visa versa.

[satorian]

hahaha.......

[chapaev36]

Great artist, verbal diarrhea.

[sophiaturbo]

да уж... чувак жжёт!

[11dejulho]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

31 of September!

(September only has 30 days)

Great Great Greenaway

[Harpo7]

Are people today unable to paint as beautiful as in the old days? no, but technology evolves. The technology of moviemaking came. And I think that in the future virtuel reality will march in. If the costs will lower.

[stevefranco2]

virtual reality... and something else I believe is verging on a breakthrough is the laserdisc...

[nondor13]

People today ARE unable to paint as beautifully;

their SIGHT is atrophied from focusing on flat surfaces with false depth...there is no future; THIS IS ENDGAME.

;(

[Harpo7]

Of course film will always stay as a medium to give information in a fast way. But on a storytelling level it will also die within an amount of time. Of course there still will be greatfilmmakers but not as much as in the past. Look at the painters. Where are the great painters today? If you look for instance a painter like Hieronymus Bosch, who told a whole story in just ONE FRAME.

[Harpo7]

The concept of cinema died when television came.

The concept of film (as telling a story with a maincaracter) has also died, when videogames arrived. In a videogame we are not just seeing the maincaracter threw the story, we are the maincaracter and are basiccally free to interact within the story.

Next step virtual reality. A kind of 'Total Recal' experience

[ohcastro]

Cinema IS NOT DEAD. The point of cinema is not to interact, as you draw comparison to videogames, but to surrender to it and to be led on a journey by the filmmaker. Cinema will always be a powerful medium in that sense.

[Harpo7]

Surrendering to the artform, allright. And by surrendering getting touched by the creator or artist. (a reaction) I think that the experience of CINEMA by getting touched by the film with a group of people TOGETHER has died. Technology evolves, flatscreen surround... people stay at home. Cocooning.

[nondor13]

and from now on the image space will be emasculated by being miniscule in scale, thus is it DEAD.

[crazybo94]

i agree, the only reason people are saying that cinema is dead is because they feel the need for a radical change. perhaps all humans do, but this is what has fucked us up.

ahem. consider this..around one or two hundred years ago, we had just reached our first billion people, after thousands and thousands of years. in the past one or two centuries, we have gained another 5 billion people.this massive burst coincides with the arrival of machinery technology, a massive change. i could go on..

[miznarik]

mid-life crisis?

[cinemawonderland]

It's not a matter of getting art, but feeling it. When it comes to the cinema, I prefer Chaplin, Renoir, Ford, Hawks, Hitchcock, Capra, Sturges, Sternberg, Lubitsch, Wilder, Truffaut, Herzog, Losey, Tarkovsky, Melville, De Sica, Scorsese, Lumet, Huston, Zinnemann, Lang, Kazan, Nicholas Ray, George Stevens, Stanley Donen, Murnau, and so many more. My problem with Greenway is that his cinema is a selective one meant to impress notions of greatness upon a certain kind of audience.

[perceyneb]

Name me a director that doesn't impress notions of greatness upon a certain kind of audience!

Can there ever possibly be a movie that everyone likes? Of course not.

And to prove that Greenaway's images are relevant to others, tell me what you've seen of his and I'll talk about it.

And you still haven't told us anything that he's pretending!

[perceyneb]

I suspect like many others you call art pretentious when you don't get it...which is a great shame.

What might be overloading for you may not be overloading for others you must understand.

[cinemawonderland]

Of the cinema I require adequate imagery and storytelling as opposed to absurd images that carry no relevance other than what exists in the author's mind.

[cinemawonderland]

Greenway's films are uncomfortably pretentious and deadeningly futile. The Cinema is to tell stories through images, and not a sensory overload. Kubrick's "2001" is a great pictorial manner of telling cinematic stories.

[perceyneb]

If Greenaway's films are pretentious...tell us please what they pretend!

I actually think there is a great degree of irony in your statement as in his recent project the TLS the viewer is CONSTANTLY reminded that they are watching a film so this is not pretentious as it is in no way trying to pretend it's real.

[VddEnergise]

myspace/thebabyofmacon

I made a remix of the soundtrack

and Mister Greenaway loved it

Yours

F

[rb306]

Greenaway is a genius

[anisblond]

of his rocker

[Hias74]

Man, Greenaway is off the mark here. There's always new ways to tell a story.

[RodolfoVazRJ]

i think that he is really right....maybe for you that are so far to the reality is dificult to see that....so go to his perfomance and then criticize...the guy is a genius.....

anyone here made any movie or just him???

so do it for yourself and then talk about the other...

from brasil....

rodolfo vaz

editor

[Xenu]

If cinema is dead did Greenaway help kill it?

[MatthewDWilder]

What a pitiful aging would-be trendoid! Greenaway's despised Scorsese is a hundred times more "physical" than Greenaway's CD-ROMish "interactive" anti-cinema.

[TulseLuper]

In your opinion maybe but I know a lot of people who love Greenaway AND Scorsese. You don't have to pick one or the other. Also his films are on the whole much better than his rhetoric anyway.

[novaexpss]

Great declaration ! The Cinema is dead every month always same story somebody that discovers the Cinema is dead.Obviously for the great impact of the new technology It's like when It has been introduced The great off-shore boating system engine.Who seals by sloop is an idiot (for Mr Greenaway)

[welshuser]

Jeez, does he ever stop for breath?

[kubrickzghost]

My friend has gone senile. Cinema is dead, but why turn it into a carnival?