god, fucking great song. first heard about hot water music in a tony hawk game, along with nofx and alkaline trio. i went to catholic school, so i didn't hear a lot of punk rock before then lol.
I'd like to state right now that Emo is a loaded term, from all angles. Since when did Lyrics dictate what genre the Music would be in? Vocal styles are one thing. Music and sound is another. LYRICS have absolutely no jurisdiction as to what the MUSIC should be classified as. Common Fucking Sense. Does that make Killswitch Engage or the Foo Fighters emo, because they sing songs that educe romantic emotions?
Think on that for a bit before you throw that loaded term around.
I so agree with you! I'm sick of seeing the word "emo" everywhere I go. It's like any song having to do with emotions is automatically "emo" or "gay". It's stupid. What's next, food? Oh that food is emo. Animals? Oh wow, that cat is emo. I can't take it anymore! :)
ok, here's a simple litmus test that will tell you jerks if it's an "emo" song or not: listen closely to the lyrics and tempo and ask yourself, "is this something that only a complete pussy would write?"
i don't think this song qualifies. this song is good. it rocks hard.
WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THE EMO ? Know anybody what a emo is ? Haters. i'm not a emo,but i hate the fucking haters. that is music. hear that or fuck off
Well for some of us who take the music very seriously it plays a big part. Calling a street punk band anything but is insulting. Calling this new shit on MTV Hardcore is an insult to bands like Bad Brains, Minor Threat, so on so forth. There is a point you're making but scene hopping fourteen year olds are destroying what the genre meant.
lol i saw that drawing a couple weeks ago and freaked me out. not only did it almost describe me perfectly the guy looks/was wearing clothes almost exactly like me. very weird but very funny. i even just recently got the lawrence arms suicide king logo tattooed on my right arm. good stuff. i think being an "orgcore punker" is better then being any of the others though...
They are emo...they're emocore as it was started back in the day. Emotive hardcore is basically hardcore punk with introspective lyrics and a slightly less abrasive style. They're as "emo" as real emo gets.
If we're going by the classic definition and by no other methods to gauge the "emo-ness", then I'd have to say yeah. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend the crap that passes for good music these days, I'm just saying HWM, The Lawrence Arms, etc. are what emo once was, not the shitfest it's turned into.
Even though I'm a dedicated metal-head, I think you'd have be a fool not to appreciate Hot Water Music's good-hearted songs. This is Punk-Rock at it's finest. Truly.
Man, I love this song and everything, but I hate this video. I just really hate how it seems like they are trying to put Chuck out front of the other guys. I know he's doing most of the singing, but it really doesn't fit for the band to have one guy leading the way in front of the others. The animation is awesome though.
seriously i know it will happen one day but HWM needs to do another nationwide tour..just one more guys..Chucks solo stuff is amazing also check it out..Last great band of the 90's
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Really? Caution's probably the most upsetting album I ever bought, totally dissapointed. Compare this with where we belong, present or rocksinger... you can't. It's just not got the heart anything before it had. I guess that's what Epitaph does to music though, it tries to make anything good as bland as Bad Religion.
Hot Water Music nao é emo e nem é post hardcore e muito menos dos anos 80, lançaram bastante coisa, mas seu primeiro album é de 96. relaxem com essa parada de te q nomea uma banda por estilo.. eh punkrock e pronto
(ultima) fase do emocore. Foi com bandas como Hot Water music que o movimento emo acabou, é sim emo e não tem nada de errado com isso. Emo nao eh essas porras que vc ve na MTV hoje tipo NxZero emo é Hot Water Music, Alkaline Trio Fugazi, etc..
Afraid so dude. However the singer (Chuck) has a solo album coming out in a few days, and the other members of the band are in a new band called The Draft (who are awesome).
this is a review on jade tree about the hwm/alk3 split:
The instrumentation seemed to be very average emo, with the usual monotonous guitar rythms. The vocals were very rough, scratchy in nature and very different from the smooth vocals of Alk3. While I know this is what HWM is like, their cover of Radio really jerked around; their cover of Bleeder wasn't much of an inprovement over the original. I am confident that HWM will improve their sound, but they have a long way to go.
They rocked harder when they had beards. Oh, and what's up with the "band in a plain white room" schtick? I would expect these guys to be a little more daring...more original....dare I say, a little more punk. I think I'll go listen to No Division. sigh
Does this load reeeeeeeally slow for anyone else? I can't get much past 30 seconds and that's after waiting forever and a day. :/ It's too bad, HWM is awesome.
god, fucking great song. first heard about hot water music in a tony hawk game, along with nofx and alkaline trio. i went to catholic school, so i didn't hear a lot of punk rock before then lol.
mynameisgolden 3 years ago
I'd like to state right now that Emo is a loaded term, from all angles. Since when did Lyrics dictate what genre the Music would be in? Vocal styles are one thing. Music and sound is another. LYRICS have absolutely no jurisdiction as to what the MUSIC should be classified as. Common Fucking Sense. Does that make Killswitch Engage or the Foo Fighters emo, because they sing songs that educe romantic emotions?
Think on that for a bit before you throw that loaded term around.
Visioncliff 3 years ago
I so agree with you! I'm sick of seeing the word "emo" everywhere I go. It's like any song having to do with emotions is automatically "emo" or "gay". It's stupid. What's next, food? Oh that food is emo. Animals? Oh wow, that cat is emo. I can't take it anymore! :)
kmacmuzikmafia27 3 years ago 2
who would bother making a point that this is emo...its hot water music...they are fucking awesome, I think that is all that really matters.
allez7887 3 years ago 4
ok, here's a simple litmus test that will tell you jerks if it's an "emo" song or not: listen closely to the lyrics and tempo and ask yourself, "is this something that only a complete pussy would write?"
i don't think this song qualifies. this song is good. it rocks hard.
now shut it.
jpbeijing 3 years ago 4
us?? that makes less sense than the first one
gsxrdue 3 years ago
then why are? where are you going with this, me or them?
gsxrdue 3 years ago
What are you fags on about, this is quality Punk/Post-hardcore music.
chrisducky 3 years ago 7
such a dope song
alexaimaq 3 years ago
you idiots this is not emo.
gsxrdue 3 years ago 3
WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH THE EMO ? Know anybody what a emo is ? Haters. i'm not a emo,but i hate the fucking haters. that is music. hear that or fuck off
ZackMallory 3 years ago 3
Anyone got this mp3 cant find it anywhere? thanks, btw emo, punk, pop, rap, ska whatever you people say it sounds good !
turtleface91 3 years ago
I agree.
radisgunda111 3 years ago
i luv this song and the also the frontmans new project. Emo Emo Fuck that far from it
weeDonkey5 3 years ago
rise against?! okay....
Olivargh1 3 years ago
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Rise against is way better
punkkonijn 3 years ago
true that
MrPhilJC123 3 years ago 2
sounds like rise against
bethardbacon 3 years ago
how can you insult them !
punkkonijn 3 years ago
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emo?
xD
popokadepedel 3 years ago
how is this emo?
MrStickNote 3 years ago 3
i read in a chatroom that this is emo..wtf :D
popokadepedel 3 years ago
i hate yt :D
aigan
i red in a chatroom that this is emo..
muaha :D
popokadepedel 3 years ago
what were they thinking?
Epitaph Records?
This is so cheesey.
No Division Forever
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rcmadwill 3 years ago
best band ive ever seen live
southstander2008 3 years ago 3
awesome song, best part, "...felt my body ro-oll...over slo-ow" orgasmic
kerby200099 3 years ago 2
this song is the shit, flat out
jeffhlewis 3 years ago 8
how great are hot fucking water music! i wish the buggers would come back to australia
gdrobbo82 3 years ago 2
Wow, this brings back memories of being 14. Man, I'm starting to feel old...
moby6002 3 years ago
Look close, George is playing his Maryland Drum kit!
fcdannyg 3 years ago
anything chuck ragan does, Hot Water Music, his solo work, and Rumbleseat, all of it is the shit.
zombifiedmaster 3 years ago 3
Well for some of us who take the music very seriously it plays a big part. Calling a street punk band anything but is insulting. Calling this new shit on MTV Hardcore is an insult to bands like Bad Brains, Minor Threat, so on so forth. There is a point you're making but scene hopping fourteen year olds are destroying what the genre meant.
antifascistpunk 3 years ago 7
i love this guy. hes so right. even tho im 14
wrpd070610 3 years ago
but im not "Scene HoppinG"
wrpd070610 3 years ago
at 0:25 he breaks out of the widescreen, lol.
Warpstarkirby 3 years ago
this song reminds me of bustin fat combos in T.H.U.G.
PowerStoneAlliance 3 years ago
in the 90s emo groups meant something diferent than the assembly line shit mtv gives us
scrubadub1032 3 years ago 2
it wasn't called emo back then, i remember i was there. it became emo when Mtv stuck its dick into it
green0horse 3 years ago 4
Fuck year, Orgcore.
Neckbeard? Check.
Regrettable Alkaline Trio tattoo? Check.
Plaid? Check.
Babrook 3 years ago
uhhh
i do not believe that there is such a thing as a regrettable alkaline trio tattoo.
keir193 3 years ago
Theres a joke here that you're missing.
Babrook 3 years ago
Word, Babrook speaks the truth.
P2K725 3 years ago
lol i saw that drawing a couple weeks ago and freaked me out. not only did it almost describe me perfectly the guy looks/was wearing clothes almost exactly like me. very weird but very funny. i even just recently got the lawrence arms suicide king logo tattooed on my right arm. good stuff. i think being an "orgcore punker" is better then being any of the others though...
KyleBrock13 3 years ago
i get it
im just saying
keir193 3 years ago
evs ty
BLIND0033 3 years ago
also
CHUCK REGAN > CHUCK NORRIS
ShimmySystem 3 years ago 5
It's just rock n roll to me.
HWM is a great rock band, one of my first bands I seriously got into.
Probably helped me get into better music.
ShimmySystem 3 years ago
just stop talking aboout bout emos and enjoy the song
BLIND0033 3 years ago
This is emo as it was meant to be heard...not that crap like Fall Out Boy. Emotive Hardcore...were have you gone?
samuraiBSD 3 years ago
i dont know where its gonne.. but i miss it.. :( ...
tafaraonerom 3 years ago
wtf. This isn't emo, who told you that they were Emo
ScreamingChim 3 years ago 2
They are emo...they're emocore as it was started back in the day. Emotive hardcore is basically hardcore punk with introspective lyrics and a slightly less abrasive style. They're as "emo" as real emo gets.
samuraiBSD 3 years ago
I'm aware of that, but this band doesn't sound even remotley emo.
Black Flag had songs about self harm and depression and they were Hardcore.
Does that make them Emo?
ScreamingChim 3 years ago
If we're going by the classic definition and by no other methods to gauge the "emo-ness", then I'd have to say yeah. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend the crap that passes for good music these days, I'm just saying HWM, The Lawrence Arms, etc. are what emo once was, not the shitfest it's turned into.
samuraiBSD 3 years ago 3
Ah,
Im positive this isn't "Emocore" or whatever but I can see how it might have fitted into yesterdays Emo culture.
And yes todays "Emo" pop music is a shitfest.
ScreamingChim 3 years ago
this song made me almost shit myself.
kamakazee2000 3 years ago
awsome!
BLIND0033 3 years ago
Even though I'm a dedicated metal-head, I think you'd have be a fool not to appreciate Hot Water Music's good-hearted songs. This is Punk-Rock at it's finest. Truly.
Gianfrancoco 3 years ago 5
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real emo
squitesquiloGRIND 3 years ago
you are so stupid words alone could not possibly express it...
KyleBrock13 3 years ago
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this song made me cum
truepunkass 3 years ago
the most beautiful thing!!!
bizzika 3 years ago
<33 amazing band.
aine1039 3 years ago 5
listened to samples of fuel for the hate game sounds like stuff i may have listened to in the mid ninties but still like most stuff around that time
bradbla 3 years ago
Read the lyrics... no one has lyrics half as good as HWM.
Ascarebot 3 years ago
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very cliche
andy partridge-bland leading the bland
who poked the jam inside our boring doughnuts
or maybe
refused-new noise
bradbla 3 years ago
true
bradbla 3 years ago
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just saying it is recycled garbage
i have heard this same formula over and over
try the band XTC
or The Arctic Monkeys
or Clinic
bradbla 3 years ago
well, to be fair. earlier in their career they sounded significantly different.
also, i doubt any of the hot water music fans here are going to listen to you insult one of their favorite bands and then check out some of yours.
just a thought.
lapsaria 3 years ago
go listen to HWM of old then.
timangf 3 years ago
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sounds like everything else snooze
bradbla 3 years ago
You mean everything else sounds like Hot Water Music.
sebbster2000 3 years ago 5
imo next to the smashing pumkins, the guys in HWM ar ethe greatest musicians/music makers that have ever lived
Jimmyhandz 3 years ago
this band kicks and its all that matters
freaky545 3 years ago 2
so glad they got back together.
Mutlilated33 3 years ago 2
Kickass! All bands from Gainesville are amazing.
RiseAgainstR0cks 3 years ago 2
oh no
that is SO not true
keir193 3 years ago
Ahh, I first heard this song in Tony Hawk's Underground the day it came out, and ever since, I've been rocking out to this song!
ClanJAX 3 years ago 4
buy it on the internet buddy!
DELnation 3 years ago
Man, I love this song and everything, but I hate this video. I just really hate how it seems like they are trying to put Chuck out front of the other guys. I know he's doing most of the singing, but it really doesn't fit for the band to have one guy leading the way in front of the others. The animation is awesome though.
Ascarebot 3 years ago 4
it's because Chuck is awesome.
DANxCHORIN 3 years ago
this band is the definition of AMAZING.
Xlive4themusicX 3 years ago
seriously i know it will happen one day but HWM needs to do another nationwide tour..just one more guys..Chucks solo stuff is amazing also check it out..Last great band of the 90's
oskorei123 3 years ago
i saw them live @ groezrock!! <3
acidsons 3 years ago
If this doesn't get you going I can't help you.
dandoty2000 3 years ago 2
Man this song is awsome!!!
chilenotildeath 3 years ago
I knew this song from Tony Hawk's Underground
ddalton274 3 years ago 4
animal! muito show!!!
cremutchos 3 years ago
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i dont get this band.. they scare me...
emosxworld 3 years ago
CHUCK RAGAN
eikers 3 years ago
fuck yeah, HWM FTW!
noisecape 3 years ago
Saw 'em last night in Tempe, AZ at the Marquee...it was nothing short of amazing.
AaronHale 3 years ago
lyk yeahhhhh. much
more music ehhhhmmm
dhobieitch 3 years ago
OMFACKS im seeing them life @ groez in 2 weeks AWESOMENESS fuck me in my tent plox?
run41 3 years ago
me 2 rofl
Pl0x3Yz04 3 years ago
is see em @ groezrock in belgium in about 3 weeks
shibb0r 3 years ago
yeah!
aLesSiucCio91 3 years ago
very good band...great tandem of the guitars and vocals
xabier301 3 years ago 4
such an awesome song
GuitarHeroGodExpert 3 years ago
so awesome!
GuitarHeroGodExpert 3 years ago
These are the coolest guys to hang out with. I miss Hot Water Music...so true and real.
danimal24585 4 years ago
they're back eh? i'm so stoked to see em if i can.
halfeatensausage 3 years ago
this song's awesome
saintbeth 4 years ago 3
who saw them in a basement in 94? i did. any more old people here? lol
xtakisx 4 years ago
SWEEEEET !!
Serc934Ardi 4 years ago
I love this song, but why did they choose this one for a video? There's many better songs on Caution...
ConcreteHorizon 4 years ago
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Really? Caution's probably the most upsetting album I ever bought, totally dissapointed. Compare this with where we belong, present or rocksinger... you can't. It's just not got the heart anything before it had. I guess that's what Epitaph does to music though, it tries to make anything good as bland as Bad Religion.
nexislex 4 years ago
I'm not disputing that their earlier stuff is better, I'm just saying there's better songs from this period than this one.
ConcreteHorizon 3 years ago
"as bland as bad religion"? LOL no comment to that ridiculous quote
guitarslayer17 3 years ago 5
HWM are good.
frcfed 4 years ago 3
rock on HWM..rock on...\m/
Lubrn2oo8 4 years ago 2
This is pure.
hot water music officialy rocks monkeyballs!
run41 4 years ago 2
Rock is no more a stile of song.
It have so many types of rock now.
Of course this is rock, but is punk ROCK, a derivation of rock, like hardcore is a derivation of punk and EMO is a derivation of hardcore...
kimithr 4 years ago 3
this is rock music, not rock and roll. talk to elvis about that shit. i mean, he was the king.
sexviking 4 years ago
i wish i could talk to elvis about it, but he is not alive right now, DUH!!!! BAHAHAHAHA!
mooshinana77661991 4 years ago
This is rock and roll, i wish the band wold clarify things lol
gangstable 4 years ago
this is post hardcore or punkrock but never rock'n'roll°.°
Chaosmade 4 years ago 2
right
hahayouredead33 4 years ago
I think he means rock n roll in a more general sense... anyhoo great band!
Schatzkebratz 4 years ago
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pure rock and roll? isnt this pure drug ode?
SodyPopInSpace 4 years ago
pure rock and roll!
orphanejk 4 years ago 2
i love these guys!!! LOVE love love.
baatz 4 years ago 4
hmmm...legal gostei
leandroribeiroruel 4 years ago
rock on! XD
AtomicEnerG 4 years ago
very very very good!
PanzerPanz 4 years ago
i was blown away the first time i saw these guys in 1995, and for the record, in 1995 kids called them emo.
scenepointnazi 4 years ago
hot water music is not emo. straight out rock ,punk
kitsunesXdarkness 4 years ago 3
i cant live without hearing this song at least once a day
fed514 4 years ago 2
hot water é foda.
foxhc4life 4 years ago
there is just somthing about this band, the energy they inject into all there songs always leaves my heart pounding
lushbmx 4 years ago 4
Hot Water Music nao é emo e nem é post hardcore e muito menos dos anos 80, lançaram bastante coisa, mas seu primeiro album é de 96. relaxem com essa parada de te q nomea uma banda por estilo.. eh punkrock e pronto
georgeroyer 4 years ago
cara Hot Water Music faz parte da terceira
(ultima) fase do emocore. Foi com bandas como Hot Water music que o movimento emo acabou, é sim emo e não tem nada de errado com isso. Emo nao eh essas porras que vc ve na MTV hoje tipo NxZero emo é Hot Water Music, Alkaline Trio Fugazi, etc..
HxCxSkateboarding 4 years ago
So hotwatermusic is emocore huh ?
Boy, HWM is not emocore, its ABOVE every lame classifications !
OOverflowW 4 years ago 5
hahaha did you even understand what I said? I don´t think so, so shut up
HxCxSkateboarding 4 years ago
anos 80??...eu pensava que hot water era do começo dos anos 90...
e tbm considero como post hardcore, isso ta longe de ser o que conhecem como emo.
the best band ever!!
rdgnoarf 4 years ago
god i love his voice
triofan425 4 years ago 4
hwm reunion is gonna rule!!
littlechicotattoo 4 years ago
reunion coming up soon. get your tickets fast
jpo8423 4 years ago
their music rule and the book they named themselves after by bukowski does too ;-)
nevrevr 4 years ago
HOT WATER MUSIC back together!!!!! So stoked!
51punk 4 years ago
não pensei que "Post Hardcore" fosse emo
Fredericoeliaz 4 years ago
yee same here, i remember listening to one of thier songs on THPS4 called "freightliner" was coolage!
SexualTourettes 4 years ago
Mto foda!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HWM vai que vai cara!
yeba16 4 years ago
eh Hot Water Music eh uma das bandas mais fodasticas de emo dos anos 80, do mundo...
tres hurras para o verdadeiro emo dos anos 80!
HxCxSkateboarding 4 years ago
<3 Guitar <3
Awesome shit.
WannaBhater 4 years ago
Some awesome guitar playing!!! THUG amazing!
24Bradley 4 years ago
They have to reunite at least for several shows... Those Songs MUST NOT be left unplayed until forever!
uhohoverflow 4 years ago
Afraid so dude. However the singer (Chuck) has a solo album coming out in a few days, and the other members of the band are in a new band called The Draft (who are awesome).
gick 4 years ago
fuckin ace! like how chuck and chris swap vocals!
bassistmatt 4 years ago
i seen these guys with bleeding through and afi in 02
skateordiemisfits 4 years ago
this is a review on jade tree about the hwm/alk3 split:
The instrumentation seemed to be very average emo, with the usual monotonous guitar rythms. The vocals were very rough, scratchy in nature and very different from the smooth vocals of Alk3. While I know this is what HWM is like, their cover of Radio really jerked around; their cover of Bleeder wasn't much of an inprovement over the original. I am confident that HWM will improve their sound, but they have a long way to go.
danyrhiw 4 years ago
Man... who wrote that ? I feel like the songs on this split are some of the best HWM material around.
ChrisDoyon 4 years ago
the punk show ruled!
smonny9 4 years ago
I second that dude under me!
EzELuPARTY 4 years ago
this song kicks ass
Swishadude 4 years ago
H.W.M are AMAZING gonna miss them!
arewereallydancing 4 years ago
Someone told me this was Russel Crowes band.
venusianarts 4 years ago
whoever told oyu that was a complete fuck-tard. HWM is one of the best bands in the last 20 years. Russel Crowe's band is a knockoff piece of shit.
HOT WATER MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!-its all about the brotherhood!
troutsnapps 4 years ago
omfg my teacher listen to them xD
My teacher!! XD this is so strange xD
Ulanka 4 years ago
great band, no wonder alkaline trio did an album with them
adam1964 5 years ago
They rocked harder when they had beards. Oh, and what's up with the "band in a plain white room" schtick? I would expect these guys to be a little more daring...more original....dare I say, a little more punk. I think I'll go listen to No Division. sigh
shane466 5 years ago
You're citing punk, and judging and artist on their music video is the same breath? Practice what you preach, brother.
Buffwae 5 years ago
best band ever , the draft is good too
matzehwm 5 years ago
best band ever
danbr182 5 years ago
Does this load reeeeeeeally slow for anyone else? I can't get much past 30 seconds and that's after waiting forever and a day. :/ It's too bad, HWM is awesome.
deadpanfool 5 years ago
great song
oracioroman 5 years ago