@hubbgjgbfg No actually in the dry you need a two wheel drive car cause you have enough traction to put the power down, 4WD setups are heavier and have more power train loses.
@sodazman This does not make me insecure at all actually , for one i could care less about how fast this civic is, u know i like Muscle Cars for their sound and looks and the ability to make them good racers for cheap but i do appreciate a well built car when i see one and it does not matter what engine or wich country it came from or wich wheels are the ones making it go, everytime i see an import video is always the same, people bashing one another with stupid shit.
Dude no mustang will handle as good a civic, foxbodies are an embarrassment to the mustang community they are for stupid hicks who want to make a shitty imitation racecar, if you knew what you were talking about then you know that early mustangs had leaf spring suspension and can't handle, the mustang was never meant to handle it's the dreamers muscle car. Civics have an independent rear suspension and a McPherson type strut setup with upper and lower control arms, all rwd can do is plow in a c
@JustJeepin666 Theres know way in hell a foxbosy will keep up with a K-Tuned EH hb in alapping event. lol
And go fuck youre B16, im talking about a K20A built to the balls. I can see by all youre comments you absolutly know life and don't get laid and thrive on argueing. So im done feeding your B:S. If you don't like Hondas why bother commenting? Go to a Mustang forum and bash Civics all day!! Because thats what you guys do best!
@GSR187 But sir thats were you are wrong, a foxbody is a very good platform when built right , they suck stock but a few good suspension parts and its ready for a road course , and not bashing on this civic ability to beat on the fox mustang cuz i bet it will but saying a foxbody has no way in hell to beat one around a track is just plain ignorant. Seem plenty of "heavy pieces of shit muscle cars" put lighter and more agile cars to shame around a track.
I agree with you there, I'm not a huge fan of drags and if american car manufacturers release more cars that can be competitive in the corners then they'll gain a lot of respect from me.
I like the sound american V8s make but thats about it, they're terribly designed most of the time, with power:displacement ratios that I'd expect from the early 80s.
why are you guys fighting with the retarded v8 guy? who makes indy car motors and f1 car motors HONDA! chevy, ford, dodge they dont make motors for these top dollar cars..the co. that makes the mclaren f1 wanted honda to build a custom engine for that car but honda refused, it just shows how much honda R&D puts into their stuff, when compared to domestic take any domestic top of the line track car to compete vs the gt500 & top fuel cars in japan..they wont have a chance.
Buddy, I have more years of education, than you years of your poor life.
If you don't know (redneck) small V8's can be 2.0, 2.2, 2.4, 2.6, 2.8 and 3.0 liters, Biggest 4 cyls are 2.4, 2.5, 2.7, 3.0 even i found 4.7 liters made for drag racing.
So, DUMBASS, first finish the school so we will talk.
I'm not interested in drag racing. I prefer circuit racing. V8 engines usually are designed to handle more power (bigger displacement) and can be smooth in same time at the road. It's not about number of cylinders, it's only about displacement. There are bigger 4 cyls engines than some V8's. So everything depends, what you want.
@lonelykatana Well, while I do agree with most of what you said, you know there ARE a couple different types of racing styles. I'm sure you know. But you cant really dog on drag racing. I have an EG hatch, I am actually an American Muscle guy. I went honda haha cheap insurance and great gas. But I still like dragging. It's all preference my friend.
how come people hate it when civics are fix up by the body kit??? but there cool when the body kit is all stock.... i would make my car fast and also have a nice body kit
Keepingmodern, so true a muscle car will win in a straight line but our civics will pull away when v8 guys lose control in a corner Lol thats why imports are funner
ApeBoy240, yes you can get a more powerful faster car for more money but real men make power not buy it, thats why we buy civics, to put work into them to show that you know more about cars, I can buy a vette but instead im putting a k20 in my crx because not everyone can do it
Dont get me wrong im an import fan... but just never got into Civic's... the amount of money you have to sink into a civic to make it faster id rather spend on getting a better car and then you have something to work with the only thing civics have going for them is if you strip them down they weigh like 20 lbs.
@ApeBoy240 No offense , but this comment shows you no nothing about what your talking about. Bring your EG(92-95) Civic to K-tuned and for 7'gs you can have a N/A 240whp car that runs low 12's on street tires and will whoop any V8's ass in the twistys.
Last time I checked it costs a hell of a'lot more then 7'gs from scratch to make a muscle car perform like that.
Please do some homework then come back to the table, thanks a bunch for coming out though!
I think muscle car dudes would rather park there car's in the corners than have to use some driver skill to navigate the g's of the corner. I think I saw a hot rod guy get passed in the corner by a pretty aggressive senior citizen pedestrien sporting ankle weights and a walker......
In a light car like a honda, light makes it right in the twisties!
Having a hard time stopping are you joking a k20 would stop the best because theres not alot of weight to stop but all the weight is on the front because its FWD
@auditrevor what's more impressive is how well it does on the corning. there's a few touge videos with this and an s2000 and STi. i wonder whoever said FF isn't optimal for the track? lol. k20a in a hatch is a scary...period.
@cypress101 No BUDDY its to the wheels. Its a K20. If it was 220 at the crank it would be under 200whp. And that doesnt add up. Think before you write. Or in your case seems you dont no what your talking about just keep your taughts to yourself.
ya I'm well aware its a k20. Jap Spec K20 come with 217 hp in stock form. Most recent k20 comes in 225hp at the crank. Is it tuned on a different ecu? Crank hp to the wheels looses about 25% on average. So somewhere around 200whp would be about right.
@cypress101 yeah it says on the specs at the start of the video its has an upgraded e.c.u. Dunno what the rest of the specs are because i cant read Japanese but im guessing its impressive.
@Fludy676 specs say 220ps so that equals 217 hp. I don't know how much power is lost through the drivetrain on the eg but I can assure you it would atleast be 20hp less than at the flywheel.
@cypress101 ya it does say k-pro ecu I see that. So stock motor at 217 hp with a standalone or reflash (don't know the capabilities of the tuning) Most you'd see from stock internals and uprated ecu would be 15 extra ponies?
nvm i was gonna respond and tell you how wrong you are about the car being too light and reason for every guy with an engine like that crashes. and i realize that it be too much of an effort to tell you how wrong you are. so please go figure it out rationally
im saying that cause its true... I dont have a B18C1 on a honda for fun, I have it cause do drag racing & pretty much any guy in a hatcback with a engine like that crashes... im not saying this cause it think tis true, im talking about facts & you should get more informe about stuff like this
so basically anyone with k20 crashes and you say thats a fact is saying that every person born has had sex b4 they died. which you know its not true. your saying everyone and using words like fact. that basically means you know every car with a k20a and you have seen them all crash. which anyone knows is bs. your your comment is bs
I dont mean like everyone, but usually the simple guy who doesnt have any knowledge about cars & upgrade their car..like lets say... 94 hatchback with a b18 or a k20, the car is obviously gonna go really fast but
those cars are not very heavy so they dont provide enough pressure with tires/road, im not saying there not gonna stop or anything like that, it just take more time for them to stop because the lack of downforce at high speeds. not all the people know that...
lets just leave this like it is, I like anything Japanese tuner JDM. including Honda NA Vtec engines. Honda does in my opinon make the beast FWD cars.
Man you guys suck, still at it with these k20 vs 4g63 turbo hahahahahaha.
K20 owns. settle down. theres a reason why honda makes and stayed natuaral aspirated engine and theres a reason why 4g63 added a turbo as an option. hehe
K20 power owns.. period.. 220HP NA stock? plz.. smokes any other engine.. yeah they can make more power cuz they got big turbos hanging off the side, let make it fair then add a turbo to the k20/... still talking smack??
4g63 NA but you also have to face the fact that a 4g63T can make more power than a K20T due to its construction. there are some videos showing 4g63T putting more power than k20T.face it there are faster 4g63T cars in the drag strip than
k20T cars. I reccomend watching APC evo
Brent rau's eclipse, john shepherd running 7.95 without Nitrous and 7.7 with nitrous. AMS time attack evo 8 running 4 race seasons with the 4g63T.and Buschur 9 second list.
i agree its better na vs na. because the 4g wasnt constructed to be naturaly aspirated. BUT, the 4g63t is an engine with much higher capabilities than the k20. and if you dont admit that then yor are just lying to yourself.
no, for the price 4g63t produces great power, strongest 4 cyl. holds the record, what more proof do you want? i could start pulling up random facts from random other cars like you have been doin...
and again, nobody gives a shit about n/a. its like winning the special olympics. u win, but your still slow.
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. i already agreen on the n/a part.........your reply to my comment makes no sense. get a grip k20 n/a is better. but potential wise? haha 4g blows the k20 away.
ok man Na ive said it K20 the best 4cyl NA, I got nothing againts it in fact I would build an all motor eg NA. but for higher power potential which usually requires a turbo the 4g63 owns. the 4g is cast Iron block fwith a close deck which reinforces the cylinders and can take more boost than k20 open deck aluminum block. the k20 has to be sleeved for turbo but the 4g can be much more heavily modified to withstand power from a turbo than the k20 even a k20 sleeved. .
its call power to weight ratio. usually k20 fast hondas are all stripped to the bone like ive seen them. they are good cars k20 is the best NA engine. but when it comes to Highly modified 4cyl drag racing, time attack hill climbing the 4g63 owns.
lol? theres many variables tht could have shifted the things u have seen. Shitty driver?fucked engine? u cant just simply "see" something as it is. but k20 is best n/a.
@vampov dude this is not a jod application diz is car talk n/a stands for naturally aspirated as no turbo no supercharger or in other words all motor...get it
I like anything JDM tuning. the 4g63 turbo is in my opinion the best factory 4 cyl for making power when modified. I consider the K20 one of the best 4cyl too.
LMAO.....thats just all evos, theres not a competition against a K20 in that video. Well that was fucking useless. All your proof are based on assumptions.
I'd love to shove a video here on you.tube about another NA S2000 touge racing against a WRC EVO but it will just further humiliate you
well dude in the famous Tusukuba Time attack battle the s2000s both turbo and NA couldn't beat beat the Cyber evo and the almighty CT230R HKS evo. why are you now talking about the F20/22C
We're still talking about K20A, im just using an F20C vs WRC evo as an analogy. I know ive seen that vid on best motoring. You obviously see theyre modified and this leads to just pick out any car and give shit to each other all year round.
The question ive asked u and ur dumbshit friend in the beginning was NA vs NA.
For the record dipshit theres no such thing as a production made K20AT but there is a production made 4G63 and thats what im comparing.
In a world of Naturally Aspirated engines, the K20A has its place amongst the worlds top 5 engine supremacy. It is in fact lighter than its predecessor, the B18C, yet produces more power and torque.
K20A, a brand new intelligent and sophisticated engine design has finally arrived through the years of extensive research and development. A new window of tuning has opened for street tuners around the world with this new Honda engine. Enjoy it while you can and long live the power of dreams.
lol the 4g63t already has a turbo, hence the "t" at the end. the heavy cast iron block can easily take 74mm or larger turbos. back to my corner? you dont understand the full possiblities of a 4g63t, the fastest 4 cyl car in the world. /watch?v=X6RiTu7OrhE
LMAO....we're talking Naturally aspirated engines and i have nothing against Mitsubishi's no shit it has a turbo jackass, thats what i meant it NEEDS a turbo. Without a turbo it wouldnt have any match against the Naturally Aspirated K20A.
Fortunately they made MIVEC which was still shitty and still needed a turbo in the later EVO models.
For a start im not interested in record breaking coz there are plenty of cars out there that would break a K20A or a 4G63T record if we're talking 1/4 mile runs which i dont give a fuck mate
My point dumbshit is that a "Naturally Aspirated" K20A is far superior engine to a "Naturally Aspirated" 4G63 (pissy Lancer GLi engine??)....llol
but then again you'd probably go ape-shit all over and say it with a "T" for turbo to even things up. LOL
mitsu eclipse gs and rs, 420a engine has proved to be able to withstand tremendous stress and speed. thats why its one of he most aftermarketed-turbo engines around.. this shit ur talkig about natuarally aspirated, wdf? wheres your proof. where i live k20a is respected, but not to the level of your thick skull. dont get me wrong....they are good engines. but when you pull shit out of your ass about the k20a being "far superior" to the 4g63? damn...we need to race
you are calling the 4g63 a puss engine haha. seems like you been in a comma I reccomend you see AMS evos and Buschur racing evos, see the Shepherd eagle talon or AWD 4g63 DSMs and what they are capable with the 4g63T.
That video of yours still wouldnt prove anything. Theres no point coz anyone can modify their cars to an extent.
Once again junior, the point i was making at the start which you probably forgot about and id have to repeat myself is that an NA K20 and an NA 4G63 would have no match in any situation given.
haha dude face it evos and DSM's are bettter for time attacks, drag racing, Hill climbs and rally than K20 Hondas, N/A is what hondas make and they are better than Mitsubishi on N/A, But in profesional drags N/A usually gets beaten by Forced induction. Mitsubishi evos and DSMs
4g63s are able to withstand more power due to the way they are built closed deck cast iron. watch AMS evo making 1181AWHP. to the crank that must be close to 1400HP. watch Brent rau's RWD eclipse.
nobody but you is hating here. it has even been said there is nothing against the k20 engine. you are just a prick. get over yourself. 4g63>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>k20
4G63T usually heats up so quickly and becomes unreliable due to its turbo. Naturally aspirated engines are the way to go when it comes to endurance. NA usually does get beaten by forced induction but it doesnt look so good when its the opposite does it? lol.
Unreliable huh come on dude have you read articles by AMS performance and Buschur racing. AMS ran thier heavily modified stroker 2.3Lengine for 4 race seasons achiving 30 wins no engine swap required like some of their race opponents. David Buschur still could't Believe that his daily driven car with 2.0L could hold around 700WHP and still be daily.
oh well, he(evlgtr) does have a point when it comes to NA engines. 110hp per litre against a 4g63 na 60-70 hp per litre?.....isnt it obvious. give me a break
you said a Rb26Dett would decimate the 4g63T if we are talking about turbo engines. why are you comparing a 4cyl turbo to a 6cyl turbo. we are talking about 4cyl here. tell me another factory produced 4cyl that would decimate the
4g63T. 4g63Turbo is better than the K20A turbo for making power. 4g63T came stock turbo not NA. dumb comparasion but we can compare them by who is capable of maing more power. the 4g63T that is.
Once again dumbshit, Im comparing Naturally Aspirated engines in the beginning. Why cant you see the fact that a Lancer GLi 4G63 non turbo is piss weak against a Type R's K20A???
LMAO, thats what i keep drilling inside your brainless head.....Mitsubishi needed to put a turbo in a 4G63.
wow coixxman hit the nail on the head. EVLGTR, your talk comes atraight out of your asshole. Shut your arrogant ass up, and realize that the k20 does not produce more power than the 4g63. you can type as many novels as you can in your pathetic attempt to prove something to yourself, but from now on i dont give a flying shit about the k20 engine or your sad arguments/comparisons.
oh yeah. 5.5 g's just for the engine, then you gotta upgrade ecu and ignition and some other shit. i heard its about an 8 g swap, thats if you do it yourself.
people can say wat they want civics are pretty cool cars,
like there never going to be a ferrari or lambo, but seriously i give props to the guys that a getting the faster and better through corners at 1 tenth the price, GOOD WORK GUYS
Orido is loving it lol
DcEvoIX 2 days ago
These guys would be speechless at my favorite car if this impresses them. The incredible audi r8 5.2v10
averageman67 3 weeks ago
DAMN HOMIE!! SLOW DOWN MUTHAPHUCKA!! Just playing thumbs up!!
kilosofpowdapowda 1 month ago
I wuv u Wong time! Haha!!! JDM ALL DAY!!!!!
ghettobird2012 2 months ago
man if only they made SI's AWD, they'd be faster and they'd be almost perfect to drive in almost any weather condition :P
hubbgjgbfg 2 months ago
@hubbgjgbfg No actually in the dry you need a two wheel drive car cause you have enough traction to put the power down, 4WD setups are heavier and have more power train loses.
LeontariF1 2 months ago
How do you properly tune a front-wheel drive car's suspension to make it handle the turns real well?
TequilaAssassin4eva 2 months ago
@lonelykatana I used to have a muscle car, 1970 El Camino 6.2l - 450 hp, now I have an 02 wrx - 250 hp
I raced them both ( including corners) Both fun cars, just different.
Imakeplanesboom 4 months ago 2
In the end, it's a FWD.
Aaroncione 5 months ago
@Aaroncione and your point is.....???
khmer209racer 5 months ago
@khmer209racer
Well my point was that you cant rip a hectic skid in a front wheel drive.
But i do understand that they have their advantages on the track etc.
Don't think i am biased due to the whole drift fad.
Its your own opinion afterall.
Aaroncione 5 months ago
Gotta love how insecure this video makes the V8 lovers.
sodazman 7 months ago 2
@sodazman This does not make me insecure at all actually , for one i could care less about how fast this civic is, u know i like Muscle Cars for their sound and looks and the ability to make them good racers for cheap but i do appreciate a well built car when i see one and it does not matter what engine or wich country it came from or wich wheels are the ones making it go, everytime i see an import video is always the same, people bashing one another with stupid shit.
cubano1389 5 months ago
k20a I want one.......
thiffer 7 months ago
hold on a sec, does that mean that the civic with k20a engine is faster than the k20a supercharged elise? or is the track different?
xdemon0123 8 months ago
@xdemon0123 same track, fwd is a little faster on these tight corners
jasonking959 7 months ago
Dude no mustang will handle as good a civic, foxbodies are an embarrassment to the mustang community they are for stupid hicks who want to make a shitty imitation racecar, if you knew what you were talking about then you know that early mustangs had leaf spring suspension and can't handle, the mustang was never meant to handle it's the dreamers muscle car. Civics have an independent rear suspension and a McPherson type strut setup with upper and lower control arms, all rwd can do is plow in a c
xXMusicIsLife20 8 months ago
@xXMusicIsLife20 Dont forget the s2000 and nsx are rwd, i mean this civic is awesome but nothing compared to the two.
xKotorix 7 months ago
@JustJeepin666 Theres know way in hell a foxbosy will keep up with a K-Tuned EH hb in alapping event. lol
And go fuck youre B16, im talking about a K20A built to the balls. I can see by all youre comments you absolutly know life and don't get laid and thrive on argueing. So im done feeding your B:S. If you don't like Hondas why bother commenting? Go to a Mustang forum and bash Civics all day!! Because thats what you guys do best!
GSR187 8 months ago
@GSR187 But sir thats were you are wrong, a foxbody is a very good platform when built right , they suck stock but a few good suspension parts and its ready for a road course , and not bashing on this civic ability to beat on the fox mustang cuz i bet it will but saying a foxbody has no way in hell to beat one around a track is just plain ignorant. Seem plenty of "heavy pieces of shit muscle cars" put lighter and more agile cars to shame around a track.
cubano1389 5 months ago
What gearbox do they use in that car?
stuwkowalski 8 months ago
Justjeepin needs to shut his stupid mouth. No one cares about v8's here obviously
freakingquimbis 9 months ago
@JustJeepin666
I agree with you there, I'm not a huge fan of drags and if american car manufacturers release more cars that can be competitive in the corners then they'll gain a lot of respect from me.
peruviantardfish 9 months ago
@JustJeepin666
I like the sound american V8s make but thats about it, they're terribly designed most of the time, with power:displacement ratios that I'd expect from the early 80s.
peruviantardfish 9 months ago
@JustJeepin666
Displacement doesn't mean shit if you have to haul an obese chassis around.
peruviantardfish 9 months ago
i have one of these! well, k20 it is! xD
Power of dreams!
joaom224 9 months ago
Can a K20A engine be swapped into a 99 Civic LX??
LovensPresume 9 months ago
@LovensPresume yea k20 will fit into any eg or ek or em
PirateKing666 9 months ago
@LovensPresume Of course sir
WubDude 8 months ago
JAPANESE AUDIO IS BETTER!
TakumiFuji01 10 months ago
why are you guys fighting with the retarded v8 guy? who makes indy car motors and f1 car motors HONDA! chevy, ford, dodge they dont make motors for these top dollar cars..the co. that makes the mclaren f1 wanted honda to build a custom engine for that car but honda refused, it just shows how much honda R&D puts into their stuff, when compared to domestic take any domestic top of the line track car to compete vs the gt500 & top fuel cars in japan..they wont have a chance.
16em1 10 months ago
Corners like a champion.
:)
898doffo 10 months ago
@JustJeepin666 Locomotive
carmodifire 10 months ago
@JustJeepin666
Buddy, I have more years of education, than you years of your poor life.
If you don't know (redneck) small V8's can be 2.0, 2.2, 2.4, 2.6, 2.8 and 3.0 liters, Biggest 4 cyls are 2.4, 2.5, 2.7, 3.0 even i found 4.7 liters made for drag racing.
So, DUMBASS, first finish the school so we will talk.
2jzgtejza80 10 months ago
@JustJeepin666
I'm not interested in drag racing. I prefer circuit racing. V8 engines usually are designed to handle more power (bigger displacement) and can be smooth in same time at the road. It's not about number of cylinders, it's only about displacement. There are bigger 4 cyls engines than some V8's. So everything depends, what you want.
2jzgtejza80 10 months ago
@JustJeepin666
Civics are not for drag racing, and you rednecks stop comparing small 4cyls engine with V8's.
2jzgtejza80 10 months ago
Civic Eg's are Legends of the civics! xD
drkid3000 11 months ago
no offence to you honda purists out there
but i think the civic should have been a RWD car
guevodeplomo 1 year ago 11
@guevodeplomo can be if you get a rwd conversion = )
I318c1hatch 2 months ago
@guevodeplomo couldn't agree with you more.
jamiekenta 1 month ago
Nice Ride !! With a Great Engine !!
I never ride a other car than Honda
Honda The Power of K20
greetings Patje-EP3
hondacrxdelsol7 1 year ago
@lonelykatana Well, while I do agree with most of what you said, you know there ARE a couple different types of racing styles. I'm sure you know. But you cant really dog on drag racing. I have an EG hatch, I am actually an American Muscle guy. I went honda haha cheap insurance and great gas. But I still like dragging. It's all preference my friend.
bradlyw420 1 year ago
how come people hate it when civics are fix up by the body kit??? but there cool when the body kit is all stock.... i would make my car fast and also have a nice body kit
vinceperez158 1 year ago
Keepingmodern, so true a muscle car will win in a straight line but our civics will pull away when v8 guys lose control in a corner Lol thats why imports are funner
Brendon00000 1 year ago
ApeBoy240, yes you can get a more powerful faster car for more money but real men make power not buy it, thats why we buy civics, to put work into them to show that you know more about cars, I can buy a vette but instead im putting a k20 in my crx because not everyone can do it
Brendon00000 1 year ago
That's the same Civic as mine ... 1995 civic?
DevChills 1 year ago
Dont get me wrong im an import fan... but just never got into Civic's... the amount of money you have to sink into a civic to make it faster id rather spend on getting a better car and then you have something to work with the only thing civics have going for them is if you strip them down they weigh like 20 lbs.
ApeBoy240 1 year ago
@ApeBoy240 No offense , but this comment shows you no nothing about what your talking about. Bring your EG(92-95) Civic to K-tuned and for 7'gs you can have a N/A 240whp car that runs low 12's on street tires and will whoop any V8's ass in the twistys.
Last time I checked it costs a hell of a'lot more then 7'gs from scratch to make a muscle car perform like that.
Please do some homework then come back to the table, thanks a bunch for coming out though!
GSR187 11 months ago
@lonelykatana
Did that one FWD car happen to be a Mini? Those things are a beast in autocrossing when set up properly.
Liist 1 year ago
hahahahah ichita heekee hakkeeem at the beginning
theRDRman 1 year ago
All the while muscle car people are still driving on flat straight drag strips... Sad really...
KeepingModern 1 year ago
Wierdnessbeardness, right on, a V8 domestic car will win only in a straight line, but a honda will pull away in corners
Brendon00000 1 year ago
I think muscle car dudes would rather park there car's in the corners than have to use some driver skill to navigate the g's of the corner. I think I saw a hot rod guy get passed in the corner by a pretty aggressive senior citizen pedestrien sporting ankle weights and a walker......
In a light car like a honda, light makes it right in the twisties!
weirdnessbeardness 1 year ago
haha this used to be my car before charlie put the k20a in it!!!!!
bossudude420 1 year ago
1:23 Ohh yes !
gomerfa 1 year ago
i wished all the Honda in my neighborhood sounded like this instead of fart cannons...
tsab503 1 year ago 2
2 words to say: HONDA POWER
XPTOPOWER 1 year ago
@lonelykatana Yes they do, those are they guys who drive trans ams and camaros lol.
Sjamsucks 1 year ago
the type-r k20a always has that roar that you can hear :D
ChazWMathews 1 year ago
topsetup indeed!
kohensanzo 1 year ago
damn that looks like fun. I want to do that =(
shyaznboy 1 year ago
Having a hard time stopping are you joking a k20 would stop the best because theres not alot of weight to stop but all the weight is on the front because its FWD
Brendon00000 1 year ago
this is a perfect example of how fast a simple 220whp honda can be:) great video
auditrevor 2 years ago 60
@auditrevor 216.99 hp to be exact:)
dopesick187 1 year ago
@auditrevor what's more impressive is how well it does on the corning. there's a few touge videos with this and an s2000 and STi. i wonder whoever said FF isn't optimal for the track? lol. k20a in a hatch is a scary...period.
azianxkidd 8 months ago
@auditrevor thats at the crank buddy
cypress101 6 months ago
@cypress101 No BUDDY its to the wheels. Its a K20. If it was 220 at the crank it would be under 200whp. And that doesnt add up. Think before you write. Or in your case seems you dont no what your talking about just keep your taughts to yourself.
Fludy676 6 months ago
@Fludy676
ya I'm well aware its a k20. Jap Spec K20 come with 217 hp in stock form. Most recent k20 comes in 225hp at the crank. Is it tuned on a different ecu? Crank hp to the wheels looses about 25% on average. So somewhere around 200whp would be about right.
cypress101 6 months ago
@cypress101 yeah it says on the specs at the start of the video its has an upgraded e.c.u. Dunno what the rest of the specs are because i cant read Japanese but im guessing its impressive.
Fludy676 5 months ago
@Fludy676 specs say 220ps so that equals 217 hp. I don't know how much power is lost through the drivetrain on the eg but I can assure you it would atleast be 20hp less than at the flywheel.
cypress101 5 months ago
@cypress101 ya it does say k-pro ecu I see that. So stock motor at 217 hp with a standalone or reflash (don't know the capabilities of the tuning) Most you'd see from stock internals and uprated ecu would be 15 extra ponies?
cypress101 5 months ago
Whats awesome is that Charlie the guy who owns that white hatchback is making almost 300hp N/A now!
RainingSushi 5 months ago
Love how responsive those engines are.
KeepingModern 2 years ago
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pablodonate 2 years ago
& i love how every guy that has an engine like that in a hatchback crashes because car is too light & at 120mph instead of braking ur sliding lol
(i dont have nothing againts this cars i have a B18 Honda Civic, waned a hatchback but i consider it dangerous)
pablodonate 2 years ago
nvm i was gonna respond and tell you how wrong you are about the car being too light and reason for every guy with an engine like that crashes. and i realize that it be too much of an effort to tell you how wrong you are. so please go figure it out rationally
rps13sr 1 year ago
im saying that cause its true... I dont have a B18C1 on a honda for fun, I have it cause do drag racing & pretty much any guy in a hatcback with a engine like that crashes... im not saying this cause it think tis true, im talking about facts & you should get more informe about stuff like this
pablodonate 1 year ago
so basically anyone with k20 crashes and you say thats a fact is saying that every person born has had sex b4 they died. which you know its not true. your saying everyone and using words like fact. that basically means you know every car with a k20a and you have seen them all crash. which anyone knows is bs. your your comment is bs
rps13sr 1 year ago
I dont mean like everyone, but usually the simple guy who doesnt have any knowledge about cars & upgrade their car..like lets say... 94 hatchback with a b18 or a k20, the car is obviously gonna go really fast but
those cars are not very heavy so they dont provide enough pressure with tires/road, im not saying there not gonna stop or anything like that, it just take more time for them to stop because the lack of downforce at high speeds. not all the people know that...
pablodonate 1 year ago 2
Personally, i think the f20c is better, and then this comes in second.
carmodifire 2 years ago
Cool
ToCrAzY45 2 years ago
@lonelykatana Wouldn't it stand for Naturally Aspirated?
sbtsmusic 2 years ago
Do you not know anything about car history? Where do you think muscle cars made their rise to fame? The vintage racers were designed as race cars.
vampov 2 years ago
lets just leave this like it is, I like anything Japanese tuner JDM. including Honda NA Vtec engines. Honda does in my opinon make the beast FWD cars.
Coixxman 2 years ago 2
Man you guys suck, still at it with these k20 vs 4g63 turbo hahahahahaha.
K20 owns. settle down. theres a reason why honda makes and stayed natuaral aspirated engine and theres a reason why 4g63 added a turbo as an option. hehe
scottiepip33 2 years ago
K20 only owns in the NA category dude.
Coixxman 2 years ago
K20 power owns.. period.. 220HP NA stock? plz.. smokes any other engine.. yeah they can make more power cuz they got big turbos hanging off the side, let make it fair then add a turbo to the k20/... still talking smack??
driftboy09 2 years ago 2
r u kidding me. K20 would rape a 4g63.
4g63t is another story. lmao
scottiepip33 2 years ago
agreed. but evlgtr is 100% hate
fr00bers 2 years ago
So u do agree k20a better than 4g63???......thank god for that LOL
LMAO, ur just too sensitive about this. im not hating you or anyone here mate.
In fact i dont even care if you have a Honda D16Y engine.
All im saying mate is NA vs NA, not ur NA vs turbo bullshit.
hands down obviously you know which is better. Dont deny coz im all about facts not some fairytale story.
This is why its hilarious how people would react if anyone would twist the story up a bit
EVLGTR 2 years ago
I been agreed that K20 NA is better than
4g63 NA but you also have to face the fact that a 4g63T can make more power than a K20T due to its construction. there are some videos showing 4g63T putting more power than k20T.face it there are faster 4g63T cars in the drag strip than
k20T cars. I reccomend watching APC evo
Brent rau's eclipse, john shepherd running 7.95 without Nitrous and 7.7 with nitrous. AMS time attack evo 8 running 4 race seasons with the 4g63T.and Buschur 9 second list.
Coixxman 2 years ago
pfft, , i dont give a fuck. NA vs NA k20 vs 4g.
U know the results, ive shown u videos. eat a dick. LOL
EVLGTR 2 years ago
i agree its better na vs na. because the 4g wasnt constructed to be naturaly aspirated. BUT, the 4g63t is an engine with much higher capabilities than the k20. and if you dont admit that then yor are just lying to yourself.
fr00bers 2 years ago
4g63T is another story im not interested in.
Any 4 cyl cars with turbo such as nissans SR20DET, subarus EJ25, mr2's 1jz GTE can make more power than a K20 & dont really care.
i suggest you go back and review my very first comment
EVLGTR 2 years ago
no, for the price 4g63t produces great power, strongest 4 cyl. holds the record, what more proof do you want? i could start pulling up random facts from random other cars like you have been doin...
and again, nobody gives a shit about n/a. its like winning the special olympics. u win, but your still slow.
fr00bers 2 years ago
LOL!!!!!....looks like ive striked a nerve.
ur so called 4g63 looks like the one who needs a handicap foe the special olympics, hence the turbo.
Its ok junior, dont get upset. i Know k20 are better that 4g63 na. u know it as well LOL
EVLGTR 2 years ago
alright then fucktard, show me a few video showing a NA 4g63 beating a K20A, in circuit race and drag race & street race............
im just gonna asku this question again and again..... till u show me some of ur bullshit proof
EVLGTR 2 years ago
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. i already agreen on the n/a part.........your reply to my comment makes no sense. get a grip k20 n/a is better. but potential wise? haha 4g blows the k20 away.
fr00bers 2 years ago
"Potential wise, 4g blows the k20 away. " -fr00bers
POTENTIAL wise...hahahaha potentially with added turbo...
once AGAIN, Show me a NA 4g beating a k20......i wanna see its potential as a naturally aspirated engine 4g
ur 4g63T argument is insiginificant..... LOL. stop shouting, dont be upset and go back to ur corner
EVLGTR 2 years ago
ok man Na ive said it K20 the best 4cyl NA, I got nothing againts it in fact I would build an all motor eg NA. but for higher power potential which usually requires a turbo the 4g63 owns. the 4g is cast Iron block fwith a close deck which reinforces the cylinders and can take more boost than k20 open deck aluminum block. the k20 has to be sleeved for turbo but the 4g can be much more heavily modified to withstand power from a turbo than the k20 even a k20 sleeved. .
Coixxman 2 years ago
HAHAHA. i thought so....there you go again with ur turbocharged to get "even".
I thought we're talking about NA engine like you said?
oh well, no ones stopping u. keep blowing ur cock (4g63) with ur turbo mate if it makes you happy. LMAO!!!
EVLGTR 2 years ago
hey bro ive seen NA k20 civic type R's beating turbo evo 8s..
how do u explain that? :D
NSXRtougemaster 2 years ago
its call power to weight ratio. usually k20 fast hondas are all stripped to the bone like ive seen them. they are good cars k20 is the best NA engine. but when it comes to Highly modified 4cyl drag racing, time attack hill climbing the 4g63 owns.
Coixxman 2 years ago
Bro, Drag racing...... hill climbs?
civic FF
Evo AWD
does it ring a bell. ? :P
NSXRtougemaster 2 years ago
Civic DX(EG) 2400lbs
Evo MR 3250lbs
does it ring a bell
Coixxman 2 years ago
lol? theres many variables tht could have shifted the things u have seen. Shitty driver?fucked engine? u cant just simply "see" something as it is. but k20 is best n/a.
fr00bers 2 years ago
"but k20 is best n/a."
Your comment makes no sense..."but k20 is best not applicable"
I think you are attempting to say "The K20 is the best engine, bar none."
vampov 2 years ago
@vampov dude this is not a jod application diz is car talk n/a stands for naturally aspirated as no turbo no supercharger or in other words all motor...get it
2jzs13 2 years ago
@vampov N/A is naturally aspirated. That means the engine has no forced induction from turbos are superchargers.
FOOSAG 2 years ago
hey you mitsubishi guys, k20a isnt the only engine you need to worry about in the lineup lol
why are you guys here anyway taking about 4g63 when the video is all about K20?
NSXRtougemaster 2 years ago
i dont know mate, some faggot little elf named Frodo Fr00bers started shitting all over the k20
EVLGTR 2 years ago
!!!
eloidor 2 years ago
I like anything JDM tuning. the 4g63 turbo is in my opinion the best factory 4 cyl for making power when modified. I consider the K20 one of the best 4cyl too.
Honda deserves respect.
Coixxman 2 years ago
agreed.
fr00bers 2 years ago
Heres a couple of video that'll make you shut the fuck up.
a NA K20a vs ur 4g63 TURBO EVO:
watch?v=YJ04OOBAlKU
watch?v=6oZrFm8DviE
Its just a Naturally Aspirated engine beating a forced induction engine...no big deal and no need to whine over it afterwards.
Enjoy dipshit
EVLGTR 2 years ago
hey fucktard watch these two
watch?v=efAOLl-MIWA
watch?v=skly2gsdbyU
something your k20 turbo wont be able to do with a full interior daily driven on pump and race gas only
Coixxman 2 years ago
LMAO.....thats just all evos, theres not a competition against a K20 in that video. Well that was fucking useless. All your proof are based on assumptions.
I'd love to shove a video here on you.tube about another NA S2000 touge racing against a WRC EVO but it will just further humiliate you
EVLGTR 2 years ago
well dude in the famous Tusukuba Time attack battle the s2000s both turbo and NA couldn't beat beat the Cyber evo and the almighty CT230R HKS evo. why are you now talking about the F20/22C
I thought this was about K20 Dumb ass
Coixxman 2 years ago
We're still talking about K20A, im just using an F20C vs WRC evo as an analogy. I know ive seen that vid on best motoring. You obviously see theyre modified and this leads to just pick out any car and give shit to each other all year round.
The question ive asked u and ur dumbshit friend in the beginning was NA vs NA.
For the record dipshit theres no such thing as a production made K20AT but there is a production made 4G63 and thats what im comparing.
EVLGTR 2 years ago
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EVLGTR 2 years ago
In a world of Naturally Aspirated engines, the K20A has its place amongst the worlds top 5 engine supremacy. It is in fact lighter than its predecessor, the B18C, yet produces more power and torque.
K20A, a brand new intelligent and sophisticated engine design has finally arrived through the years of extensive research and development. A new window of tuning has opened for street tuners around the world with this new Honda engine. Enjoy it while you can and long live the power of dreams.
EVLGTR 2 years ago
4g63t is better. suck a dick
fr00bers 2 years ago
4G63t needs a turbo....Pfft.....I can say my RB26DETT will decimate it if we're talking turbocharged engine. Back to your corner junior
EVLGTR 2 years ago
lol the 4g63t already has a turbo, hence the "t" at the end. the heavy cast iron block can easily take 74mm or larger turbos. back to my corner? you dont understand the full possiblities of a 4g63t, the fastest 4 cyl car in the world. /watch?v=X6RiTu7OrhE
fr00bers 2 years ago
LMAO....we're talking Naturally aspirated engines and i have nothing against Mitsubishi's no shit it has a turbo jackass, thats what i meant it NEEDS a turbo. Without a turbo it wouldnt have any match against the Naturally Aspirated K20A.
Fortunately they made MIVEC which was still shitty and still needed a turbo in the later EVO models.
once again, back to your corner. lol
EVLGTR 2 years ago
no, not back to my corner. lol. your talk is cheap, no proof all theory. i want to see your k20a break a record.
fr00bers 2 years ago
Hmmm, lets see.
For a start im not interested in record breaking coz there are plenty of cars out there that would break a K20A or a 4G63T record if we're talking 1/4 mile runs which i dont give a fuck mate
My point dumbshit is that a "Naturally Aspirated" K20A is far superior engine to a "Naturally Aspirated" 4G63 (pissy Lancer GLi engine??)....llol
but then again you'd probably go ape-shit all over and say it with a "T" for turbo to even things up. LOL
EVLGTR 2 years ago
mitsu eclipse gs and rs, 420a engine has proved to be able to withstand tremendous stress and speed. thats why its one of he most aftermarketed-turbo engines around.. this shit ur talkig about natuarally aspirated, wdf? wheres your proof. where i live k20a is respected, but not to the level of your thick skull. dont get me wrong....they are good engines. but when you pull shit out of your ass about the k20a being "far superior" to the 4g63? damn...we need to race
fr00bers 2 years ago
Tell me, how much horsepower per litre does a 4G63....(no turbo) compare to a K20A...???
Go back to ur aftermarket parts again???
Yeah i thought so dipshit, go back to middle school. LOL
EVLGTR 2 years ago
you are calling the 4g63 a puss engine haha. seems like you been in a comma I reccomend you see AMS evos and Buschur racing evos, see the Shepherd eagle talon or AWD 4g63 DSMs and what they are capable with the 4g63T.
face it dude 4g63T>>>>K20T
Coixxman 2 years ago
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EVLGTR 2 years ago
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Watch this:
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=JbqrL-xjJcE
K20A turbo vs Evo 9........
Both of you and ur fr00bers fag friend got owned...enough said.
They dont make many K20A turbo vs 4g63T video so suck a dick. I just needed one to prove both you wrong
EVLGTR 2 years ago
As you were saying:
"face it dude 4g63T>>>>K20T"
This vid below is a K20 NA vs 4g63 Turbo....NA vs TURBO right?????
watch?v=YJ04OOBAlKU
watch?v=6oZrFm8DviE
Now, imagine it as NA vs NA
......You got owned, enough said
EVLGTR 2 years ago
watch this bitch watch?v=aTJj-YaMdsk
something your K20T civic won't run with a FWD. face it AWD is better for drag than FWD.
Coixxman 2 years ago
Hahaha.
That video of yours still wouldnt prove anything. Theres no point coz anyone can modify their cars to an extent.
Once again junior, the point i was making at the start which you probably forgot about and id have to repeat myself is that an NA K20 and an NA 4G63 would have no match in any situation given.
EVLGTR 2 years ago
haha dude face it evos and DSM's are bettter for time attacks, drag racing, Hill climbs and rally than K20 Hondas, N/A is what hondas make and they are better than Mitsubishi on N/A, But in profesional drags N/A usually gets beaten by Forced induction. Mitsubishi evos and DSMs
4g63s are able to withstand more power due to the way they are built closed deck cast iron. watch AMS evo making 1181AWHP. to the crank that must be close to 1400HP. watch Brent rau's RWD eclipse.
Coixxman 2 years ago
Cast iron blocks are heavy as fuck. Did you know K20A's engine are made out of Aluminum alloy?
Did you even watch the video i sent showing an Evo and a naturally aspirated Type r?.....you just got spanked and that is a fucking disgrace.
Still scratching ur head how an NA could beat a turbo huh?. Scratch some more till you understand.
EVLGTR 2 years ago
LMAO!!!!!!!.......
i just cant stop laughing at this video....it must be a joke.
Stock K20A vs Evo on 22psi...
watch?v=CGliXoSUE0I
When will the humiliation end?????. Yeah fuck you K20A hater
EVLGTR 2 years ago
nobody but you is hating here. it has even been said there is nothing against the k20 engine. you are just a prick. get over yourself. 4g63>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>k20
DbzGokussj4 2 years ago
This video is all about K20A dickwad.....
Find me a video showing a Naturally aspirated 4G63 beating a K20A if you can.
4G over K20 as you say???...now who's the hypocrite. LOL
EVLGTR 2 years ago
hah. K20A really is better than a non turbo lancer 4g63 engine and i kid you not.
in fact no match NA vs NA
NSXRtougemaster 2 years ago
4G63T usually heats up so quickly and becomes unreliable due to its turbo. Naturally aspirated engines are the way to go when it comes to endurance. NA usually does get beaten by forced induction but it doesnt look so good when its the opposite does it? lol.
NSXRtougemaster 2 years ago
Unreliable huh come on dude have you read articles by AMS performance and Buschur racing. AMS ran thier heavily modified stroker 2.3Lengine for 4 race seasons achiving 30 wins no engine swap required like some of their race opponents. David Buschur still could't Believe that his daily driven car with 2.0L could hold around 700WHP and still be daily.
Coixxman 2 years ago
exacly. this dude (EVLGTR)is getting a lil too riled up about this topic. haha
fr00bers 2 years ago
oh well, he(evlgtr) does have a point when it comes to NA engines. 110hp per litre against a 4g63 na 60-70 hp per litre?.....isnt it obvious. give me a break
NSXRtougemaster 2 years ago
i have a d16y7 myself. nothing against k20 engines, or honda engines. just 4g63 produce more power. all im saying.
fr00bers 2 years ago
were talking about 4cyl here man.
I cold say the 2JZGTE would be better for making more power than the RB26DETT
Coixxman 2 years ago
A hemi or top alcohol fuel cars would make more power than the 2JZGTE or my RB26DETT....
whats your point?
EVLGTR 2 years ago
you said a Rb26Dett would decimate the 4g63T if we are talking about turbo engines. why are you comparing a 4cyl turbo to a 6cyl turbo. we are talking about 4cyl here. tell me another factory produced 4cyl that would decimate the
4g63T. 4g63Turbo is better than the K20A turbo for making power. 4g63T came stock turbo not NA. dumb comparasion but we can compare them by who is capable of maing more power. the 4g63T that is.
Coixxman 2 years ago
Once again dumbshit, Im comparing Naturally Aspirated engines in the beginning. Why cant you see the fact that a Lancer GLi 4G63 non turbo is piss weak against a Type R's K20A???
LMAO, thats what i keep drilling inside your brainless head.....Mitsubishi needed to put a turbo in a 4G63.
You just keep going in circles mate
EVLGTR 2 years ago
Dude, you must love your 4G63 Turbo's......
Let me ask you a simple question to end this argument youve started.
Why cant you show me a NA K20 vs NA 4G63 ???? .....
EVLGTR 2 years ago
wow coixxman hit the nail on the head. EVLGTR, your talk comes atraight out of your asshole. Shut your arrogant ass up, and realize that the k20 does not produce more power than the 4g63. you can type as many novels as you can in your pathetic attempt to prove something to yourself, but from now on i dont give a flying shit about the k20 engine or your sad arguments/comparisons.
fr00bers 2 years ago
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It's worth it tho ...
apexdna 2 years ago
how much would a k20 setup cost with a swap and everything
boonashaka 2 years ago
The engine itself is expensive. more expensive than a 2jzgte or rb26
FourSidedPiston 2 years ago
this honda is awesome Japan power N/A only.........lambros from grecce....!!!!
lambros89 2 years ago
Is that horse thief mile? Thats a dam good time if it is.
mogul1265 2 years ago
oh yeah. 5.5 g's just for the engine, then you gotta upgrade ecu and ignition and some other shit. i heard its about an 8 g swap, thats if you do it yourself.
TopherTheGroper 2 years ago
Damn
gravityhammer25 2 years ago
haha obviously
ExpIores 2 years ago
5300 for swap
vtec526 2 years ago
So whats the setup anyways? And how much would it cost to set it up like this.
Sorry, I don't know much about cars. I just love driving em' and the look of em'.
norhamdan1985 2 years ago
3 wheeler yeah!
Typhoontimmy 2 years ago
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DiD U KNO JAPANEESEE DiDNT KNOW ABOUT THE K20 SWAPS ON CiViCS =D HAHAHAHA THEY R DUMB.
KINGSRT4 2 years ago
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how much the set of dat car?
edriel2006 2 years ago
people can say wat they want civics are pretty cool cars,
like there never going to be a ferrari or lambo, but seriously i give props to the guys that a getting the faster and better through corners at 1 tenth the price, GOOD WORK GUYS
ForualKid 2 years ago 21
+1 for Topsetup EG
RotaryChild 2 years ago 2
wtf lhd
jacksonmakemefeel 2 years ago
its in california dude,
dont you understand japanese?
look for TOPSETUP CIVIC
danielkabuto 2 years ago 6
nice track
juhbby 2 years ago
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220 hp. but NO TORQUE BITCH
ChrisMurphy15 2 years ago
its true
lsdvl 2 years ago
pure beauty!
7866744 2 years ago 2
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my gtp would rape this honda
ChrisMurphy15 3 years ago
i very much doubt that
LewisWimpenny 3 years ago 2
910 Kg + 220 PS !!! Power-2-weight is the key
RaceVideoKid 3 years ago 6
Love the vtec when kicks in, sounds super nice...
TheRookieLyfe 3 years ago 5