People & Power - Peaked - 06 Jan 08 - Part 2

[Janusha]

Aljazeera has become a really good TV channel.

[bulldog8459]

hydrogen will save the day D:

[longfinnedeeler]

@bulldog8459 lols

[DrReaper]

The answer is hemp!

Of course the establishment is 100% opposed to hemp as they were the ones to outlaw it to make money from oil. Now their descendants are in charge and the are far to stupid to make hemp legal again. In the USA anyway.

[longfinnedeeler]

@DrReaper Hemp huh? Hemp oil can be produced at 80 million barrels a day?

[DrReaper]

@longfinnedeeler

Does it have to replace all the gas in one day? I understand people are impatient but that is a tall order. We should make it legal and start making fuel and see where it goes. h e m p c a r . o r g

[longfinnedeeler]

@DrReaper Lols...do some research...your just a waste of time

[DrReaper]

@longfinnedeeler

You do some research v o t e h e m p . o r g

[longfinnedeeler]

@DrReaper So we plant the earths arable land in hemp so we can drive? What about food crops? The amount of land needed to keep the billions of vehicles we have on the road would entail planting the majority of the earths arable land...without taking in to account food crops...and even the the scenario you planted the continent of Africa, North and South America you still have to deal with feeding the earths 7 billion people

[DrReaper]

@longfinnedeeler

Hemp also turns into fifty thousand products. It may not replace all needed oil but it would be a good start to replacing some of it now. Why keep it illegal? So oil companies can keep a monopoly going? Look at landfills. Plastics made of fossil fuels are destroying the land. Hemp plastics would be biodegradable and would immediately solve the problem. Not the previous damage but it wouldn't contribute to future problems. The new Lotus car sports car is hemp.

[louis12346]

Why ? When we all plug in our electric Clown Cars at same time lights go Dim ? Go Nuclear , & natural gas , Ireland has oil but Queen Beatrix Dutch royal shell , took it for free

[valho9]

everyone needs to watch COLLAPSE, a documentary base on michael ruppert's novel, CONFRONTING COLLAPSE

[gary97209]

Peak Oil 101: LifeAfterTheOilCrash~NET

[dudebud007]

is that really what Dipshit Chaney ones said ? ? ? that the american lifestyle is non-negotiable ? ? ? gimme a fucking break .... the fucker deserves a bullet right into the back of his head just for saying that

[WarzSchoolchild]

Lindsay Williams (Alaska Oil Pastor) informs us that the Gull Island Oil Field is the largest oil deposit ever found, in the history of oil exploration, and that other gigantic oil fields up in Alaska also exist. They have been 'capped off' to maintain high oil prices. If allowed to enter the market, the price of oil would drop to $10 per barrel or even less. The 'Peak Oil' scare, Lindsay Williams says, is a myth! a downright dirty lie!...A falsehood!...BS! ALSO HE CAN PROVE IT!

[soundmoneyfan]

Bye ya'll! haha I love it

[maccasara]

Oil not a fossil fuel? Can't beat Russian Logic. Damn If I could buy stocks in (prevaling) stupidity I'd be billionaire by tomorrow.

[zappyhod]

Peak oils bullshit...Just like global warming...You really think if these forecasts where true...Major companies wouldn't be investing multi-trillions in research dollars to replace oil ?

[Crustanarchy]

@zappyhod Can't spend what they don't got.

[cyclenut]

Wow, the commits really show the trouble we are in if there is once ounce of truth to peak oil. Then too, I remember the 1971 oil shortage here in the US. The US did not change, no new technology, nothing, Well NUKE power, THREE MILE ISLAND, I remember that one too.

I believe that our children one day will not be happy with us............

[elucidative]

Why is empty oil wells filling up again? Because oil is not a fossil and it is plentiful like water.

[TiffiVanDoom]

what the fuck, haha.

[TadRapidly]

We DON'T need more strip-mall, big box stores?! NO!!! Say it's not so! NO!!!!! Give me MORE Frozen Yogurt! MORE!!!!

[Stev888]

Peak Oil Theory rests upon the incorrect assumption that oil is a fossil fuel. A-biotic-trained Russian geologists perfected their knowledge and the USSR emerged as the worlds largest oil producer by the mid-1980s. No one asks how or why. Western geologists do not bother to offer hard scientific proof of fossil origins. They merely assert as a holy truth.

[baglemonkey]

@Stev888 your relaying figures from the ussr? what a joke....these are the same people who came up with Lysenkoism, and would erase people people from photos and say they never existed, and if you questioned or disagreed, they would erase you, getting info from ussr is a joke, and if you believe it then the joke is on you, da

[magua73]

Yeah and so was 9/11 also, right?

The fact is as long as Oil is a NON-renewable resource it WILL peak eventually, we might then argue about the HOW and the WHEN of peak oil, but as said before it will happen whether you think it is a conspiracy of some short or not.

Now, I happen to "believe" , I don't know for certain, that we are close, if not already, to peaking in oil production. That as said can be argued about, but not peak oil it self.

[TDanza8]

Egalitarian communes breed dissent

[punjabisikhwarrior]

THere is an ocean of oil still left we wouldnt have to worry for at least another 100 years... however certain elite mutherfcukers will not allow us to dig in those area's... for example Alaska...

[postpeakman]

the USGS estimates that between 5.7 and 16.0 billion barrels of technically recoverable crude oil and natural gas liquids are in the coastal plain area of ANWR.

Let's assume we can use all 16 billion.

USA oil use = 21 million barrels per day.

16 billion barrels / 21 million barrels per day = 762 days, or 2 years and a month.

I don't know where you got those other 98 years from, but they are not going to come from Alaska.

[krist300]

"The american way of life is non-negotiable. When you don't negotiate, then you are supplied a negotiating partner called reality."

[ohio1998]

Great post. Reality always wins. Too bad we can't figure this shit out sooner.

[NicNasty1981]

At the moment america consumes 50% of the worlds petrol/gas. If americans were better informed people would start downsizing their engines! especial if they were to think about the cost of their gas doubling and then trebling! plus american car manufactures need to make better engines. i saw the new dodge on top gear. it had a 7+ litre engine and ONLY got out 550 HP. Which is pathetic compared to european cars! really pathetic!

[andreegal]

"If americans were better informed people would start downsizing their engines!" mmmmm I don't think so. Americans will only star downsizing engines as their money downsizes, they will not see the problem until it hits their face. I think that was the point the reporter tried to make at the end. Humans will always defend their means of living till the end...and that is why we always have to crash before we correct our course. Sad isn't it.

[NicNasty1981]

thinking on it your right, i wouldnt expect everyone, in fact i would only expect very few, just the ones that are on a budget really and that would look ahead on gas prices. most other people would find out the hard way

[nbw86]

pathetic? Dodge had a power goal and met it. Sure, they could have built a smaller displacement engine that would 'have to' rev higher to match that horsepower level with while sacrificing the vastpowerband but then the 560ft/lb's of torque would also go the wayside.. There is a method to their madness. The vette which uses similar method also gets incredibly good gas millage by being able to practically drive on idle at highway speeds. I agree with andreegal's assessment on most Americans.

[NicNasty1981]

speaking of dodge, how big is the engine? 8300cc and it only gets 550bhp!! now thats pathetic! and why do you need that torque??

Well ive heard for the states that demand is down and supply is up. So theres a discrepancy with the price

[nbw86]

You've never attended a track day/autocross ect type of event have you? For example when coming out of a tight bend were you won't be at your optimum RPM for power having that smooth/predictable grunt on the low end so that you can keep the powered wheels work at their threshhold. HP per liter argument is an irrelevant and frankly silly way to determining the value of an engine. especially when you consider the bore/stroke ratio of an engine in which you see it is all apples and oranges.

[NicNasty1981]

youre not gonna tell me a dodge would be good for going round corners and tight bends and thats why its designed like that?

Have you ever seen the tv program Top Gear?

Sure it looks good and 8.3 litres sounds good but its nothing compared to a european racing car.

heres an honset review watch?v=ovH1KpCPcPo

[nbw86]

Yes I'm familiar with TopGear. It's although entertaining is NOT something you should take seriously by ANY stretch of the imagination. It's astounding how ignorant Jeremy C. is on many basic aspects about many of the cars he tests. It is satire. The mere fact that you mention TG is a laughable. I'm not even going to go back into this, Just do some research be it on one of the few good sources on the net or talk to some experienced drivers/teams at your local track.

[NicNasty1981]

European cars are better for handling. You dont need massive torque to go around corners. Your thinking is flawed. Every big car that comes on top gear is raced around the track by the "stig" Although the dodge does well for an american car it doesnt do brilliant. And JC likes the dodge. And seach tracks yourself and find out how the dodge does against other cars

[nbw86]

More general statements with a complete lack of any sort of specifics and you are still seriously using Top Gear as a basis for argument?

I think you completely missed the point of what I said about torque which I believe is stemming from a common misconception that handling is a 1 dimensional trate that occurs throughout the action of going through all corner.. but that is just a guess. If you have a question or wish to give some proof/specifics that don't involve topgear then I'm all ears.

[NicNasty1981]

well i did mention to search tracks yourself and see how the dodge performs against others. Thats the proof.

[Krudup16]

This is why Aljazeera is so important!

[Krudup16]

This is why Aljazeera is so important!

[versanil]

Isn't it interesting that in the light such a huge problem there are only a handful of comments of this video and yet if I post a video of Britney Spears beaver I will get thousands of posts overnight? That is a big part of the problem.

Why aren't we hearing much debate about this in the media? Why isn't government talking about this on a daily basis?

[WOLF333999]

Try Giant Oil Field Discovered in Spears's Beaver. That'll spark some interest.

[acousticsailor]

Look up Lindsay Williams and The Non Oil Crisis. It seems there is enough oil on the north slope of Prudoe Bay to keep us running for 200 years. We haven't drilled off NC or VA or CA or FL. How can you say there is no more oil?

I'm all for new technologies to get us off oil. Look up Stan Meyer's water car. The answers are out there, but dont' believe the MSM lies about oil. We buy high priced oil from foreign countries that promise to sell it in $ and use some of those $ to buy our debt

[stelawton]

Great reporting from Max I am a big fan of his programs.

[NicNasty1981]

stelawton

yeah he tells it to us straight and easy to understand. Max should have his own weekly part on mainstream tv.

[tickletum]

Max Keiser is fantastic, down to earth and unpretentious. Great show.

[geoffreyphilip]

Max Keiser thinks he's cool. He's just irritating.

[sgelles]

yes but he provides intelligent commentary and insightful reporting which is more than i can say for these ken doll talking heads you usually see on t.v.

[kakapi]

Max Keiser is a best presenter i have ever seen, good report and interesting aljazeera.

[msgg81]

More DEEP WATER EXPLORATION NEEDED !

[sgelles]

great idea! and while we're at it why don't we just nuke the entire world? there's bound to be some oil down there somewhere!

[kkob]

Deep water: expensive (diminishing returns), slow to develop (time is up), and just not nearly enough. Again: we need 4 or more new Saudi Arabias every 3 - 6 years. Get it? This is an impossibility. What you NEED is change.

[goose1077]

change will come naturally. You don't need to panic. The technology to carry on already exists. We make it in Michigan. As soon as we can be sure the price of oil won't drop below the price of the next technology, we will develop it on massive scale. Nobody is going to develop something that someone else has a substitute for that is cheaper.

[strapt313]

thats wishful thinking. "alternative resources account for less than 10% of our oil consumption. good luck with corn ethanol and solar power!

[goose1077]

Saying they only make up 10% is not an arguement against what I said. You only put numbers to what I said. We are saying the same thing there. I went on to explain that we don't use them because they cost more. If you can get electricity for $80 a month why would you pay $100? The difference between solar and coal is not that much but it doesn't take much to get people to not use it. Some day coal will cost more. People will switch. Corn is crap, though see my videos on that.

[kkob]

Tell that to the Maya, for one. And many others. Societies and cultures DO collapse. Rome? Collapsed, not least of which was due to a lack of resources: lost production from mines in Spain. "Naturally?" If you mean the market, wake up. If that were the case, the market would have started acting years ago. Go to my blog and read Hirsch's report.

[goose1077]

Read my comment above.

[kkob]

You need to inform yourself about complex systems, collapse, the difficulty in ramping up, time frames, etc. THEN you need to stop thinking only in terms of American survival.

[goose1077]

It is not that complex to make solar or wind power. the only difficulty in ramping up is that right now it costs more to make solar and wind power than it costs to make coal power. It's also worth pointing out that we are not about to run out of coal. Think about it how we rammped up computer production. How about the internet.