This Week in Combat Sports August 28th, 2009: Fedor vs Rogers

[klard]

Unbelievable how UFC treats these fighters. Taking away scheduled title fights? The best thing for MMA would be for Dana White to go away, just disappear scum bucket, you are rich enough off these guys already.

[eyel0v3u]

Fedor gonna rape his african ass

[ericssson]

P4P he's the best

mousasi would Kill A silva

[teggyturbo92]

well i watched it and i used to think fedor was best p4p and rogers was a noob i wasnt wrong about rogers but fedor made me take back the p4p title

[stockmaster1982]

teggyturbo92 are you the same guy i saw last time bashing fedor? lol~

[getonwon41510]

Lesnar is not even close to being on Fedors level. It like a rookie wants to take on a veteran of the sport. Lesnar has fought a handful of fighters past there prime. While Fedor has demolished a bus load of fighters that were in there prime. C-MON MAN!

[YeahClickClack]

people give this cain guy too much credit,he has yet to fight a guy like gonzaga,carwin deserved the title shot,he atleast beat a balanced heavyweight,cain hit the jackpot when he fought kongo,no ground game versus good ground game.

[sins4givenmain]

those guy dont even need to be mentioned among fedors name you talked about gonzaga,man he lost to randy and randy lost to nogiera fedor beat nogiera like nothing 2 times.all these guys are new booties.

[YeahClickClack]

carwin would give fedor his toughest challenge since nogueira. Secondly we will see if fedor makes it past Rogers this november. Fedor is a dominating fighter,but a new era of dominate fighters are emerging,Lesnar,Carwin, Anderson Silva,GSP. You cant seriously say Fedor is the pound for pound best anymore.

[sins4givenmain]

thats your opinion you cant say that ufc hw are a new era until they beat fedor tim tried arvloski tried but they failed brock lost already so hes out carwin has 11 fights whats that a. silva just stated in his new video that fedor better than him so i cant believe you if the fighter himself dont believe it this new era is ok but fedor is in his own era

[YeahClickClack]

their has never been a time where there are more 260lb plus fighters who have technique,skill,and power than right now in the sport of mma. you will never see lesnar get outwrestled and outpowered. Fedor can be taken down and did not look too good in striking against arlovski. Everyone has an opionion on this video here.

[sins4givenmain]

name me a time where fedor got out wrestled?i can name you a time where lesner got so out wrestled that he got submitted.and lesner had a hard time with randy,you could say that fedor had a hard time with arvloski but when you look at the slow motion video on that fight he did not get hit in the face when it appeared he did.FEDOR IS THE BEST AND NO ONE CAN SAY THERE THE BEST UNTIL THEY FIGHT FEDOR,BJ PENN AGREES GSP AGREES RANDY AGREES SHOGUN AGREES AND SO ON FEDORS RECORD SPEAKS FOR HIMSELF.

[YeahClickClack]

Mark Coleman took him to the ground and held him there until he got subbed,you think mir outwrestled lesnar? that was bjj not wrestling.Yes i saw arlovski vs fedor in slow motion,fedor didnt get tagged but he also didnt have an answer for arlovskis striking,until the flying knee of course. Fedor cannot be crowned the best until he comes to the ufc,fedor is ranked 1. mainly because of all the fights he did in pride,the ufc has more talent than pride did now,So its time he proves himself again.

[sins4givenmain]

who cares where fedor fought pride had way more people in their audiences that ufc had nothing on them and half of ufc is pride right now and thier running itnogiera beat randy shogun beat chuck,and he really beat machida so long machida era they gave it to machida but he lost to everyone and these people are from pride fedor fights anyone they put infront of him he would be in ufc right now but ufc wont co promote so there that dont mean he has to prove himself it means ufc has to p themselves

[sins4givenmain]

i dont no how you can put shane carwin above fedor or brock you no how foolish you sound that shows me you no nothing you cant put someone whos 11-0 above anybody thats foolish machida is way better than carwin but there in differant weight classes machida lost to shogun he had a record of 15 -0 i think fedor would come in and take all ufc fans

[YeahClickClack]

when did i say shane carwin was better than fedor or brock? i never said that,you did. Shane would probably lose to fedor.Brock however would most likely beat fedor.The ufc has more depth,talent than any other mma organization in the world,the fact that you disagree,you sound flatout ignorant and it shows me how little you know about mma and the only thing you can say is fedors number one. you cant comprehend what i say in my post, You somehow came to the conclusion that i think Carwin is no.1

[sins4givenmain]

you said it again brock is better how can he beat fedor but lose to frank mir.wow.i bring up carwin because you said that theres a new era well hes in it right?and yes FEDOR is number 1,bj penn gsp randy rampage say it but you cant who are you not a fighter.

[YeahClickClack]

In era I meant in mma,theres a new group of bigger,faster and skilled guys coming in,i did not compare Carwins record or legacy to fedors. Im done talking to you,you realy just cant understand what im saying. Your right im not a fighter,but neither are you.

[stockmaster1982]

Well i hope Shane Carwin beats the shit out of Lesnar, when they fight! lol~

There's no way he can go down as the greatest mixed martial artist in mma!

hahahahahaha~ I will officially stop watching mma if that happens! but it wont happen because fedor's the best!

[druiz187]

You've got to be kidding. The best heavyweights in the world are not in the UFC. Rogers is probably the same caliber fighter as lesnar..maybe better...and lesnar is the best the UFC has to offer.

[YeahClickClack]

Oh realy???? Strikeforce heavyweights, Fedor-hes fucking awsome. Werdum-got knocked the fuck out in the ufc. Overeem-so juiced up he wont fight in america anymore.Rogers- one credible win.hmmmmm yes there are more talented heavyweights in strikeforce than the ufc. Man do I feel stupid right now. To think Velasquez,Carwin,Lesnar,Dos Santos,Gonzaga,Couture,Duffee, were any good at all.That just sounds dumb.

[druiz187]

No one ever said there are more talented heavyweights in strikeforce. There are many other fighting leagues. Those fighters you mentioned are good, but they are not among the best in the world except Carwin and maybe Lesnar. We will see when Lesnar fights someone if he is actually as good as he said he is. UFC is just popular in America, and is the best in many weightclasses, but not heavyweight.

[YeahClickClack]

Cain velasquez is not a top ranked guy? he looks better and better every time he fights,Dos Santos KO'D Werdum. You realy have no credible evidence to suggest that somewhere else there are more talented heavyweights than than theyre are in the UFC. Strikeforce has Fedor and Rogers. Rogers who may be a great heavyweight one day. So where else?

[asadweb]

You said Fedor cannot be crowned best until he fights for UFC. All UFC top ranked fighters from Couture, Rendelman, Bas Rutten, Coleman etc etc agrees that best MMA fighter on this planet is Fedor and dont forget UFC has bad bad history dealing with fighters. We all know how much Dana wants to get in Fedor into UFC. Why dont UFC and Dana go for a mega-fight (undisputed heavy weight) of the year Fedor vs Lesnar.

[YeahClickClack]

Yeah well none of those fighters you said are in the top of heap now,the ones who are lesnar and carwin both agree that fedor needs to prove himself,Arlovski would have never got a chance to fight for the title in the ufc again after that dismall performances,same with sylvia.

[asadweb]

All I can say is You are a keyboard warrior lol

You talk total gibberish bro.

[YeahClickClack]

your the one who speaks gibberish,if i said i was an mma veteran cagefighter and that i would kick yours or someone else ass,that would make me a keyboard warrior.shut the fuck up please

[stockmaster1982]

lol~ even Gsp said fedor is the best!

So did BJ Penn! Who else were their?

UFC commentator Joe Rogan even felt that way! couture, randleman, bas rutten, coleman, Big John Mccarthy (greatest referee), almost the whole country of korea, Japan knows he's the best! Vanderlei Silva, Jake Shields, Mousassi,

Shogun, i mean i can literally write a book here! hahahaha~ there's a even a video on youtube! hahahah~ comon man why dont u just admit ur pissed cuz he's not in the UFC! hahaha~ u hater

[funkychickeness]

yeah. dumb ufc fan boys doesn t know anythign else. posers

[Mannypacquia0]

i dont think the fedor needs the ufc, its the ufc that needs fedor, if Lesnar wants to crownhim self as the best heavyweight in the world, he would obviously have to fight fedor sometime.

[ProfessorSexington]

Well thats your opinion and your entitled to it, but that argument doesnt hold water, while fedor is a legendary fighter and truly gifted, we all know strikeforce will tank soon, and the UFC made Fedor a spectacular offer and he came back with gimme half of the ufc lol, hes starting too look like he will do anything to keep out of the ufc,...cowardice...or pickyness take yer pick.

[Mannypacquia0]

yeah, but i dont think its cowardness... hes not scared to fight people like brock, i mean if your scared to fight then obviously you shouldnt be in mma, i think its all vadim, being a dick asking for co-promotion, now that type of shit wont happen with the ufc..... everything would have been good besides that one little offer...

[dimmuborgir82]

Lesnar is injured dont you understand, where u get the idea hes scared from ??

[Mannypacquia0]

wtf? are you a dumbass? i didnt say anything about lesnar being scared, i was talking about those dumbass people that think fedor is scared to fight brock lesnar,

[stockmaster1982]

Dude i think he's dodging carwin!

Or the UFC is trying to protect their

UFC heavyweight from a possilbe defeat.

[bachatadiccion]

fuck karo parisyan.

[B1gBassa]

lol rogers retire before fedor ko's ure ass

[nyran125]

can you just imagine how many fighters would be jealous of Roger's being the guy who beat Fedor next. To be THE guy to beat him. That would make Roger's a legend in a second.

[nyran125]

lol this dude got all of the fight results right. YAY for you.

[Cessation3]

Gotta read your material beforehand, you stumble reading telepromter too much, lol. Descent show nonetheless.

[ChicanoBoi23]

2:56 LOL Funny Mayhem Miller moment

[theotherserge]

1,300 views. nice, getting more and more exposure!

[TWinCombatSports]

i am trying.

[theotherserge]

its working from what I'm seeing!

[oakmantex]

Jake Shields vs Jason miller

[TWinCombatSports]

did i screw that up somehow?

[frenchkids]

Too bad for Brett. I really like him, but it's going to be way too much for him at this stage.

[therichrules]

Good pics. I enjoyed your info.

[ChicanoBoi23]

Fedor vs Brett Rogers ITS ON!!!

[plbaylock]

ok everybody go to this mans website to help him out. hes doing a hell of a job. all u have to do is click the button to the right. i watch the show every week.

ok to the jardin and silva i'm picking jardin becus silva just got ok and i think hes not going to be mentally ready to fight. although my boy jardin AKA Stone Cold Steve Austin Uncle has a soft chin, i think he can pull off the decision if he hit him with the combos then get out like he did chuck

[MRSMITH213]

THIS WEEK'S SHOW KICKED

ASS-NAULT

[TWinCombatSports]

please stop. i thank you for the compliment on the show, but don't appreciate the rest.

[whatwild]

I really like sambo. Look at how the one of the first UFC events went down Sambo Vs Jitsu. Vicious Head Kick that sent teeth flyin to the third row..LOL

[Cessation3]

lol I remember that, the announcers were like wtf did you see that guys teeth knocked out, with shocked looks on their faces. ufc 1 actually

[vinnymackdx]

Fedor vs Rogers should be a great fight and i cant wait to see Fedor back in the mix to own the heavyweight division once again!

as for Lesnar vs Carwin, i don't think Carwin has what it takes to beat Lesnar, i realy wanted to see Carwin vs Velasquez, that fight would of been fun to watch!

good show btw!

[signboyy]

jardine just lost a close decision to rampage who is a recent lhw champion and just destroyed wandy.

yet you think if he loses this fight he is out of the ufc?

nonsense. it will just mean he is a midlevel lhw and will have to win another couple fights to be a top 3 lhw contender again.

[TWinCombatSports]

jardine has not won 2 in a row since he beat wilson gouveia and forrest griffin. he is 4 and 4 in his last 8 fights.

[signboyy]

so what if jardine is 14/5.

randy couture is 16/9

the point is he has beaten

former hw champion chuck liddell

former hw champion forrest griffin

former wec hw champion brandon vera

and lost a close decision to former heavyweight champion rampage jackson

so after losing one more fight he is out of the ufc? that is insanity.

[watuphomieg]

dude seriously come on....

he beat chuck who shouldn't have been fighting, he didnt fight the chuck we knew from 2005.

he beat forrest when forrest first started.

no one cares about brandon vera like really.

and rampgae won a unanimous decision, it wasnt a close fight, because he got rocked a few times.

jardine will be done if he loses again

[TWinCombatSports]

signboyy...first, i can't believe you put jardine and couture on the same level...yes, jardine has some great wins. but how many of jardine's losses were title fights? just of the top of my head 4 of couture's losses were title fights. twice to liddell, once to lesner and once to vitor belforrt...one more just came to mind...josh barnett. If jardine stays in the UFC it is because dana likes him and he comes to fight everytime and does not have a boring fight. you make great points.

[signboyy]

jardine's and couture's similar records indicate they ARE on the same level.

records dont lie. for some reason jardine is underhyped and couture is overhyped.

jardine has never fought for the title, but beating former champions is the same thing.

you are forgetting ricco rodriguez.

if jardine stays in the ufc it is because he has beaten former champion griffin, former champion liddell, former wec champion vera, and lost a close decision to former champion rampage. he is a contender.

[TWinCombatSports]

i was just looking at couture's wikipedia page...mainly at his fight record...this fight with big nog is the second fight that randy has had in the UFC that was not for a belt. beating former champions is not the same for the reason that the belt is not on the line. jardine is a stud. don't get me wrong. i just feel that if he loses, his position within the company will be in jeopardy. right now he is the gate keeper to the top tear of the LHW division. if he loses, he might not even be that.

[signboyy]

by the way if you are going to reply to me, make sure to hit the reply button next to my name instead of someone elses.

your reply is not in my inbox and it is by sheer chance that i came here to reply to someone else and noticed your retort.

[whatwild]

Im a Vera Fan!!

Jardine will not be done if he loses..

He fights nothing but the best of course your going to lose.

[watuphomieg]

he fights nothing but the best??

who the hell loses to stephan bonnar?

come on, i was a shamrock fan and i hated to see him go... but when you lose 3 in a row (if he loses tomorrow) thats a sign to hang up the gloves.

[TWinCombatSports]

the bonner fight was a bad decision by the judges, but i am with you on stephan bonner. i think jardine may want to go to a smaller org and dominate and then come back.

[signboyy]

he lost to stephan bonner in the ultimate fighter. he was still green in the ultimate fighter.

IF he loses it will be two in a row.

liddell(who jardine beat) lost 4 out of 5 before dana retired him.

but if jardine loses 2 in a row he is gone?

double standard.

[TWinCombatSports]

jardine and bonner were in different seasons of TUF. bonner season 1 and jardine season 2. bonner beat jardine at an ultimate fight night and i think that jardine got robbed as does many people who saw that fight.

jardine is 4 and 4 in his last 8 and has not won 2 in a row since beating griffin and gouveia.

i think if jardine and vera fight now, vera will win that fight hands down.

dana pounced both Tamden McCrory and Thales Leites after losing 2 in a row.

[ChicanoBoi23]

lol hey man, u think u can send me a link for that marquart pic at 6:50, its pretty funny

[signboyy]

i though dana recinded his bouncing of tamden mccrory and thales leites.

[TWinCombatSports]

he did...initially. after a discussion with others in the office, Leites and McCrory were still released.

[TWinCombatSports]

did you get my message about debating on This Week in MMA?

[watuphomieg]

welll what do you know, first round knockout, three fight losing streak. he is done!!

[signboyy]

who has a three fight losing streak?

[TWinCombatSports]

if he is talking about Jardine, he made a mistake. Jardine has a 2 fight losing streak...not sure who he is talking about.

[signboyy]

who has a three fight losing streak?

[watuphomieg]

fuck my bad again. **two fight losing streak,

dude get real, the last time you seen a good chuck was with tito ortiz in '06

forrest was considered by a lot of people to be a top contender when he fought shogun, not jardine.

i shouldnt care about vera, talk to me about vera when he beats a top 10 LHW.

and rampage, did jardine lose or not?

how am i racist, when im a minority you idiot, just shut up, jardine is done and thats all there is to it.

[signboyy]

i agree chuck is overated

forrest is overated

vera just beat soszynski

jardine lost to rampage by decision, hardly impressive

minorities cant be racist?

jardine is inconsistent but not done

[watuphomieg]

soszynski wasnt nor will he be a top 10 LHW soon.

a loss is a loss, if you get knocked out or by a split decision, losing is losing.

no wtf, how am i racist you moron? just because i dont like a certain fighter all of a sudden im racist? so if you like a sports team, and you dont like a team they're playing, then does that mean your racist to the other team?. dude you make no sense whatsoever idiot.

[signboyy]

i think soszynski is in the top 10 of lhw, he just hasnt proved it yet

alot of people hate blond fighters and thus are racist

[watuphomieg]

if he hasnt proved it yet, then he aint in the top 10. once hes in the top ten then he has proven it.

your dumb dude seriously, does anyone else here think that if im not a fan of one certain fighter then im racist? i dont like rashad evans either, so does that make me racist again signboyy?

[signboyy]

people with insight know when a fighter is top 10 caliber before having to proof it. people who lack insight have to wait until it is proven.

am i SERIOUSLY?

a lot of fans are racist, and my intuition tells me you are one of them.

sure you might be racist against black fighters and blond fighters.

[watuphomieg]

ya you can shove your intuition up your ass, im not racist you dumbass. even if i was, why would i have a problem saying it over the internet? your just ignorant, your mad cuz i ripped on your favorite fighter jardine, get off jardine's jock and dont even fuckin reply to this.

[signboyy]

intuition deficient racist

[laksewim]

i tottally agree

however; minorities can be racist, too

[signboyy]

chucks first fight after losing the belt was with jardine. so dont tell me it was a different liddell fightin jardine.

forrest had won the ultimate fighter then fought 4 fights in ufc before his 5th fight with jardine. he was a seasoned vet when he fought jardine.

you should care about vera considering he is a former wec champion.

it was unanimous but the judges said he was winning the fight until that knockdown at the end of the 3rd.

only racists want jardine to be done.

[rampagesgrill84]

Jardine has had the highway of hell in the LHW division. Chuck, Wand, Forrest, Vera, Rampage and now Thiago are the reason for his inconsistency. Anyone with the same road would've had losses. You forget that Couture's 15/16 UFC fights are for the title..

I don't agree that Randy should clinch with Nog, 'cause being in the clinch is exactly where Nog wants to be, and things can change quick from there. Randy should keep his distance and use straight punches, he's got the better hands.

[signboyy]

carwin is 11-0, he is long overdue for a title fight. lesnar got a title shot after only 2 fights in the ufc.

but i think the reason dana switched it is because it is better to have both carwin then velasquez fight for the title, instead of only one of them.

its just good business but also it is good for the fans who want to see 2 epic title fights instead of just one.

the era of carwin begins soon.

[katodmx007]

good one man, back to the roots.

lesnar will dominate ....zZZ.

but im excited for fedors fight, like always.

[TWinCombatSports]

yep. back to the grind.  had to take a week.