Laszlo Bock Testifies on Immigration at House Judiciary Cmte

[2011rhythmdivine]

Courageous! The vice president for people operations at Google really stood up for Google.  What a remarkable courage you showed!

[bogtown]

USA needs a points based highly skilled migrant system like the rest of the western world uses and cut the family reunification based green cards.

[Sillybillydilly]

USA needs a good educational system, and less financial strain on its people so they have the time an resources to educate themselves. Housing costs and the very prosperity of cash into check places (people being so tight on funds they have to borrow for 2 weeks in advance) are the biggest obstacles. Once everyone feels secure, they can start turning their attention to realizing their dreams, or even having dreams in the first place. Most people right now dream of winning the lottery.

[bogtown]

Yeah fuck off

[linuxguru1968]

Can you tell me exactly what you disagree with?

[darkblues]

dudes (icono.., linux..) get a life.

[linuxguru1968]

Lie 1: Google Founders: Brin and Page were not H1Bs. Sergy Brin family immigrated under a different visa type YEARS before H1B. Larry Page was native born.

Lie 2: Search Engine Inventor: The concept of a search engine was NOT invented by Brin/Page-it was invented by an American named Vannevar Bush in 1930s called Memex.

[iconoclast616]

Lie 3: Intel Founder - he referring to George Grove who was non-technical and again not a guest worker or H1B of any sort.

Lie 4: Yahoo Founders - David Filo was a native born American of European descent. Jerry Yang was not a guest worker or H1B - he immigrated with his family and was completely educated in the USA.

[iconoclast616]

Lie 5: Sun Microsystem: None of the technical leads who founded Sun were born abroad - only a few of the sales/admin people - and none of them started as guest workers or H1B.

[iconoclast616]

Lie 6: He lists business operations, global marketing, global business operations and data infrastructure operations positions filled by H1Bs -these are all administrative types of jobs NONE of which require advanced math or science skills. Mr. Bock, how much is Google paying these guys? What new industries have they started? How many are over 40 years old? How many of these jobs really require that they be physically present in the US?

[iconoclast616]

Lie 7: Orkut and Barat: Note that he even admits they were developers and did not invent the concept of the sites they worked on. Funny how he can only site two low level coders. He cannot site any H1Bs that started a legit tech company that is still operating today!

Lie 8: Laszlo Bock: What a joke! He even says he immigrated as a child. Did you come on a H1B visa at age 6, Mr. Bock? Does American need another lying lawyer/lobbyist for any country?

[atulvmehta]

Proof by Contradiction of Propositions (in less than 500 chars:)

Prop A: Corporates -> Increase H1B quota.

Prop B: Politicians -> Leave quota as is.

Prop C: iconoclast616 -> Prop B contradicts Prop A. Conclusion: Politicians are dumb.

Prop D: iconoclast616 -> Terminate H1B. Prop D contradicts Prop A. Prop D is logically worse than Prop B. Conclusion: Go to school!

Converse error?

[lindazimmer]

Can't find great minds in the USA? What a liar?

USA thinkers invented computers, cars, jets, and many other industries. Did India invent any of them on their own? Not one.

Jewish political interferce almost ruined Germany's economy, ruined USSR totality, and now is ruining USA.

Something is wrong with these people. Something bad.

[atulvmehta]

No one is saying there aren't great minds in the US. There is clearly a shortage. Otherwise why would ALL top 10 IT companies in the USA write letters to the government pleading for more talented H-1Bs. BTW, India invented spiritualism. You can have all the cars and computers you want and still be so unhappy.

[iconoclast616]

>> Otherwise why would ALL top 10 IT companies in the USA write letters to the government pleading for more talented H-1Bs.

The H1B increase has been voted down three times in the last serveral year. A new bill called "The H1B and L3 Visa Fraud Prevention Act" has been created. Doesn't look like the politicians are convinced there is a shortage.

[atulvmehta]

These last several years execs like Gates to Ellison to McNealy have literally begged at the Capitol to increase H-1B quotas. Either some high-calibre politicians are dumb, or some high-calibre execs running the top 10 - IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, Cisco, Google, etc. are dumb. More than likely it is the former. Either way I don't care if they are convinced or not. Given the bleak outlook, I've already started teaching Spanish to my daughter.

[iconoclast616]

>> begged at the Capitol to increase H-1B quotas ...

They are desprate for cheap labor - they cannot improve their products or increase market share. The only thing they can do is reduce labor costs. Yes, many politicians are dumb ... that is a given! ;)

[iconoclast616]

>> Given the bleak outlook, I've already started teaching Spanish to my daughter.

Muy bien. Acutaully, Native Americans from central Mexico were the first to invent zero and apply computing technologies to astronomy. Sadly, their kids are locked out of tech jobs because of corporate's love affair with cheap labor from India. IMHO, more Native American and Latino kids will enter the field once H1B has been terminated.

[atulvmehta]

Zero was invented in 500 AD by an Indian mathematician. It was introduced in Europe circa 900 AD when they came to know ah-ha 10 means ten. I continue to urge you to write to your local congressman and terminate the H-1B program and if you like have illegals do the same work for $9/hr - I'm sure there are many available.

[iconoclast616]

Lie 1: Google Founders: Brin and Page were not H1Bs. Sergy Brin family immigrated under a different visa type YEARS before H1B. Larry Page was native born.

Lie 2: Search Engine Inventor: The concept of a search engine was NOT invented by Brin/Page-it was invented by an American named Vannevar Bush in 1930s called Memex.

Lie 3: Intel Founder - he referring to George Grove who was non-technical and again not a guest worker or H1B of any sort.

[atulvmehta]

iconoclast616, You still don't get it yo-yo. I don't want to comment much on your cognitive abilities. But do your research - many companies were started by people who came here on H-1B. Anyway, how does it matter if Torvalds or I immigrated on an H-1B or a Z-1B visa? And check out shusterman dot com slash torvalds.html about the silly bureaucracy.

[linuxguru1968]

Under the current implementation of H1B, the AVERAGE salary of 85% of H1Bs is less that 50K/year - some only earn about $9/hour. Only about 10-15% H1B(like Torvalds) are truely "rare workers" and earn the competative rate of 100-200K/year. BTW, Torvalds has never started a company.

I'd still like to see your list of Fortune 500 companies started by H1B visa workers! Please include their NASDQ sticker names also.

[atulvmehta]

linuxguru1968, Most H-1B's come to this country with very little money, earn prevailing market wages while wasting time (6+ years) with the current bureaucracy because you can't start a company while you're on an H-1B. A green card gives freedom after a long wait and their names do end up in the top 1% of the wealthiest. I am a developer, not a stock broker - contact your broker for detailed data on tickers and demograhics of founders of tech companies.

[atulvmehta]

linuxguru1968, Torvalds started a non-profit company called Linux International. In a few decades, it will be go in annals of computing history for bringing computers to the masses - 5 billion poor people. One H-1B immigrant can do what entire WorldBank and IMF put together could not do in a hundred years. There are many rare and bright workers who come here initially on an H-1B. They are just not as popular as Linus is today.

[iconoclast616]

Lie 4: Yahoo Founders - David Filo was a native born American of European descent. Jerry Yang was not a guest worker or H1B - he immigrated with his family and was completely educated in the USA.

Lie 5: Sun Microsystem: None of the technical leads who founded Sun were born abroad - only a few of the sales/admin people - and none of them started as guest workers or H1B.

[atulvmehta]

iconoclast616, What you are saying is that if the first-gens invented, it doesn't matter. But if his or my daughter invented - they are super-stars! That is so freaking retarded. What you are suggesting is that stop the H-1s before they or their children build tomorrow's google, yahoo and youtubes.

[iconoclast616]

American innovation is a bottom up proces: people immigrate, assimulate and then colaborate to produce new products and ideas. Unlike immigrants, H1Bs come into the country and leave without leaving much of a footprint - except depressed wages and shorter careers for native workers.

[atulvmehta]

iconoclast616, Most (+98%) F1s/H1s do not leave, they get_naturalized(), earn prevailing wages or more. They start companies and create thousands of jobs. It's proven. The stereotype remains in a continuous unamerican "state of denial" and makes excuses to justify denial of opportunity to people who can help make this world a better place. This was not what the founding immigrants had in mind. Fore-fathers looking down from the skies above saying "Shame on you" for yelling "ONLY my swamp".

[iconoclast616]

Give me the name of a company started by H1B that employs thousands. I'm still waiting!

[atulvmehta]

Still dunno companies started by H-1Bs? You need to improve your google search skills!

Vinod Khosla, Sun Microsystems

Vivek Randive, Tibco Software

Sanjiv Sidhu, i2 Technologies

Gururaj Deshpande, Sycamore Networks

Pradeep Sindhu, Juniper Networks

Sabeer Bhatia, Hotmail

Kavitark Ram Shriram "Google's sherpa" was the one who funded Brin and Page with the first $100K to start Google. He pretty much formed the DNA of the entire company. His net worth: $1.75+ billion.

[iconoclast616]

Your lying: just because they are from India does not mean they were H1Bs. The people you cite were startup employees; part of the bogus dot-com fronts of these companies. None of them created new technological art the spawned new industries. Khosla, a non-technical employee of a venture capital firm, was definately not H1B and didn't invent Solaris or Sparc. Bhaitia didn't invent web mail - he just started the companies. He was from India but not H1B. Still wating for your list!

[atulvmehta]

iconoclast616, You continue to remain in your perpetual "state of denial". Some of those great people I listed indeed came here on an H-1B. I suggest you contact INS. to help rid of your misconceptions. If you are not convinced, write to your congressman that illegals should get automatic citizenship, anyone who came here on an H-1B should be thrown out, and let's make America a champ in exporting lawn mowing talent to China.

[iconoclast616]

>> Some of those great people I listed indeed came here on an H-1B

Its not that they aren't great people; its just that they are not of the calibre of Bill Joy, John Gage, Scott McNeally, Steve Jobs, Steve Wozniak. They never distinguished themselves by making great leeps forward like the top player in industry.

[atulvmehta]

> Its not that they aren't great people; its just that they are not of the calibre...

Fine - they are just great people then. You have the right your personal opinion that that only native Americans hold calibre rights, others don't. That's pefectly fine. None of those great people are remotely interested in knowing what you think of them.

[iconoclast616]

>> Fine - they are just great people then

All the major technolgical innovationsj: computer, telephone, radio, electronic, physics, medicine - have been done in Europe or America. With a tract record like that, it is irresponsible to drive native born Americians out of intellectual work.

[skotumk]

not here to involve in an argument just to get the facts right...

Kavitark Ram Shriram "Google's sherpa" - true

he also "formed the DNA of the entire company" - true.

The guy who wrote the 100K cheque was Andy Bechtolsheim, the founder of Sun Microsystems.

(the market mostly regard Bechtolsheim as the principle investor in Google. Shriram's financial involvement is mysterious)

[linuxguru1968]

Bechtolsheim was not an H1B visa worker. Shriram was not a CS, EE type of technical workers; he was a salesman. What does this have to with a cheap labor program like H1B?

[atulvmehta]

Linux International isn't a Nasdaq-listed company. But given your line of thinking i.e. H-1Bs be banned - Torvalds (an H-1B worker) with his Linux would have been sent back at port of entry! None of the commercial distros Red Hat, Debian, Mandriva, ... started by enterprising ubuntu money-mongering founders would have existed. Needless to say, new jobs being created at Google, Oracle, Cisco, etc. would not exist. That again if they'd have remained in business given the conditions you prescribe.

[iconoclast616]

H1B should be limited to the top paid rare workers not cheap help. Linux was based on Minix by Andy Tanenbaum - it was not orginal art by Linus. He could still be doing his Linux work from Finland - no need to bring him here to the US.

[atulvmehta]

FYI, H-1B is limited to top-paid rare workers when there are none available locally to fill those jobs. It's a very detailed process. Tanenbaum's kernel was microkernel. Linux kernel was monolithic - it still is and Linus still bashes Tanenbaum's wits. Yes anyone can work from anywhere. Imagine a rogue fella in Philipines working for Microsoft posts all their internal code in the public domain. Who will go Microsoft go after?

[iconoclast616]

>> FYI, H-1B is limited to top-paid rare workers when there are none available locally to fill those jobs.

Not True: According to DOL, the AVERAGE rate of compenstation for 85% of H1Bs is LESS THAN %50K/year. Top paid is $100-$200/year only 10-14% H1Bs fall in this category. The rest are simply disposable "cheap help" that just drive down wages.

[atulvmehta]

>> is LESS THAN %50K/year? cheap help?

Lol, your math just doesn't add up. Dunno about H-1s coming from other countries but Indians are the wealthiest among all ethnic groups in America.

[iconoclast616]

>> Lol, your math just doesn't add up.

Not my math its facts from DOL - only the top 10% H1bs earn the wages you are talking about. The rest are earnig about $9/hour sharing apts with four other people. Not the American dream ....

[atulvmehta]

Dude, I pay more than $9/hr to the guy who mows my lawn. He lives with 6 others in a shared apt. But I think I might know where the math turns wrong - why we can't judge simply with DOL numbers. You go work for a mega corp and take a $(put a number here) salary or $1 salary like Brin or Jobs. A friend of mine worked for Microsoft and bought a really really expensive car and a dream house when his options materialized. He's retired now. It'd be only wishful thinking to call that cheap labor!

[iconoclast616]

None of the founder teams or technical leads for founding Google, Oracle or Cisco was NOT H1Bs.

[atulvmehta]

You still have reading comprehension issues. I said Google, Oracle, Cisco and all those Linux distros are still in business because they are banking on Linux - a product brought here by an H-1B immigrant. Got it?

[iconoclast616]

Lie 6: He lists business operations, global marketing, global business operations and data infrastructure operations positions filled by H1Bs -these are all administrative types of jobs NONE of which require advanced math or science skills. Mr. Bock, how much is Google paying these guys? What new industries have they started? How many are over 40 years old? How many of these jobs really require that they be physically present in the US?

[atulvmehta]

iconoclast616, I have the answer for the question you posed for Laszlo. Indians are the wealthiest among *all* ethnic groups in America. They arrive with a couple of hundred dollars in their pockets but end up making millions due to their endurance & fighting spirit. Country folks like you don't even have to go through a 6-year H-1B hell, yet don't create anything! This should also clarify your doubts about entrepreneurial abilities.

[iconoclast616]

Lie 7: Orkut and Barat: Note that he even admits they were developers and did not invent the concept of the sites they worked on. Funny how he can only site two low level coders. He cannot site any H1Bs that started a legit tech company that is still operating today!

Lie 8: Laszlo Bock: What a joke! He even says he immigrated as a child. Did you come on a H1B visa at age 6, Mr. Bock? Does American need another lying lawyer/lobbyist for any country?

[atulvmehta]

iconoclast616, If a zombie congressman were to take up on your suggestions, all illegals would get automatic citizenship, all those Ph.D H-1s and F-1s would be deported, and America would be a champ in exporting lawn mowing talent to China. :-) You are stupid.

[linuxguru1968]

Oosp I forgot: Jack Kilby/Robert Noyce invented the integrated circuit and "Ted" Hoff Jr invented the microprocessor. Maybe one of Bill Gate's cheap, disposable, antibiotic-resistant-plague-ca­rrying, barely-english-literate, never-started-a-legit-tach-com­pany, innovationless, soon-to-be-deported-when-their­-visa-runs-out,routine and unimaginative H1B scabs can tell me which Indian outsourcing company they worked for?

[atulvmehta]

linuxguru1968, So inventors are myGates and iJobs! Your id should be icandy or microsoftie. Lol, they didn't invent anything except MARKETING and how to suck local 60K & H-1 blood. Now if your IQ calls that inventors, I'd say go join the club and play some office politics. Your slang seems to indicate that you may lack potentcy to do any technical work _ so I won't go as far as calling you non-inventor (like no expectations at all--).

[linuxguru1968]

Robert Morse, Henry Ford,Thomas Edison, The Wright Brothers, Robert Goddard, Philo T. Farnsworth, Lee DeForest, Shockley, Brattain and Bardeen, Jobs and Wozniak, Marc Anderseen, Bill Gates ... this list goes on - none of them were from China or India and many were notorious academic failures. How many future inventor/entrepreneurs like these guys will never happen because of H1B ... shame on the politicians .. H1B is a crime against humanity.

[atulvmehta]

linuxguru1968, I'd have added Torvalds to my inventor list even though he might have come here on some "immigrant" visa. You are clearly incapable of inventing anything. But don't take out your frustrations and failures on H-1Bs. Go masturbate or "go to your home state" and be that good farmer or something. I didn't think Ted Hoff would be so disgruntled as you are to learn that zero was invented by an Indian 1500 years ago. :-) BTW, Edison stole it too - you just don't know!

[atulvmehta]

iconoclast616, Am glad you want to get to the origins of math, logic, and microprocessors. Where did "zero" or "void" come from or say the number of zeros in gooooooogle. You'd want to know if you are a _developer_ and are able to somewhat think logically. The Romans didn't have a zero in their system. A humble mathematician in India invented it around 500 A.D. and was brought to Europe about the year 900 A.D - well, ages ago immigrant programs were created in the US. +Four+ responses below...

[iconoclast616]

Atulvmehta, speaking of Roman, you are doing the ad hominem attack on me because you cannot refute my orginal posting of the lies Bock told to the Congress! That's way you trying to push my postings down you cannot refute them so you are censoring them. Go home!

[atulvmehta]

iconoclast616, Laszlo did not lie before congress. He gave one of the best speeches in the history of computing. "Go home?" See that's the problem with folks like you - education (read: start with reading comprehension). First whine before your boss - I can't get the job done, get some help. Then when he does - No, I'd be much happier to see that other guy "Go". Thanks for trying but what makes you think that any immigrant would care to take advise from a weak unstable below-average IQ source?

[atulvmehta]

iconoclast616's comments on Laszlo's great historical speech are plain ridiculous! The point he is making is that smart *immigrants* came here and made this economy a powehouse (including google). BTW, the machine you are using to post your loser comments perhaps runs a Pentium processor designed by an Indian on an H1-B visa!

Search on Wikipedia -> List_of_Indian_Americans.

Take care.

[iconoclast616]

Dude, you said it: "smart immigrants come here...". H1Bs are not immigrants they are GUEST workers. Ted Hoff, an European native born American, invented the microprocess at Intel that was in 1968 - 22 years before the creation of the current H1B program.

[atulvmehta]

Here's an alternative - if you can't get much done with those lazy incompetent locals, you can become an SCM manager, offshore the work for cheap, blame them as stupid and fire them if something goes wrong in your distributed effort. All goes well, you are an inventor overnight! And best of all, you can keep those filthy F-1s and H-1s from coming here. Does that sound like your kind of plan?

[atulvmehta]

If America truly had an anti-immigration attitude, F-1 / H-1 programs would not even exist. Somehow that would be better. It would prevent stealing credit for patentable work (can't do much with that visa status) and at the same time give them a second-class moron treatment.

[atulvmehta]

I meant "immigrant" as in "people who came here" not as in their "initial visa status". There is no question that people who came out here "initially" on H-1 / F-1 visas have invented and started companies on US soil. Although an H-1B visa holder is considered a guest worker, H-1B visa is recognized as dual intent, meaning an H-1B holder may have legal immigration intent. It is sad that their tax payer status is equal to that of a US resident and often end up as indentured laborers.

[atulvmehta]

The invention of zero became the turning point in civilization long before google, foo-bar, binary logic, and microprocessors were invented. Or Torvalds could come and give a speech at Google to brag about how wonderful of a coder he is. Now that's a perfect example of "zero" humility. Let that percolate through your brain a little bit if you had one between those ears, at a minimum. :-)

[iconoclast616]

Lie 1: Sergy Brin was NOT H1B-his family immigrated under a different visa type YEARS before H1B. Larry Page was native born.

Lie 2: The concept of a search engine was not invented by Brin/Page-it was invented by an American named Vannevar Bush in 1930s called Memex.

[iconoclast616]

Lie 2: Intel - he referring to George Grove who was non-technical and again not a guest worker or H1B of any sort.

Lie 3: Yahoo founders - David Filo was a native born American of European descent. Jerry Yang was not a guest worker or H1B - he immigrated with his family and was completely educated in the USA.

Lie 4: Sun Microsystem: None of the technical leads who founded Sun were born abroad - only a few of the sales/admin people - and none of them started as guest workers or H1B.

[iconoclast616]

Lie 4: He lists business operations, global marketing, global business operations and data infrastructure operations positions filled by H1Bs -these are all administrative types of jobs NONE of which require advanced math or science skills. Mr. Bock, how much is Google paying these guys? What new industries have they started? How many are over 40 years old? How many of these jobs really require that they be physically present in the US?

[iconoclast616]

Lie 5: Orkut and Barat: Note that he even admits they were developers and did not invent the concept of the sites they worked on. Funny how he can only site two low level coders. He cannot site any H1Bs that started a legit tech company that is still operating today!

Lie 6: Laszlo Bock: What a joke! He even says he immigrated as a child. Did you come on a H1B visa at age 6, Mr. Bock? Does American need another lying lawyer/lobbyist for any country?

[yourstudio]

Laszlo Bock you rock! We are all from Pangea! google shares its applications worldwide, so it makes sense to allow "googlers" around the world to work for google...Google shares, u.s. should too ... If you disagree please watch "The Immigration Debate" video, it has a great positive outlook on immigration :).

Here is the link

copy this after youtube *dot* com/?v=YhEl6HdfqWM

or simply type "the immigration debate" *made by super news

[iconoclast616]

There has never been a tech company founded by a H1B visa holder. Sergy was not an H1B visa holder and none of the founder of Intel were visa holders. He's confusing the issue: permanant immigrants vs. guest workers. 85% of H1Bs earn < 50K/year - they are deportable cheap help not rare workers.

[centerrightpunk]

ahhh! we can't find enough americans (who will work cheap enough) to work for us! "we're creating jobs here in america everyday", yea, hoping they'll someday be filled by cheap, foreign workers, haha.

[centerrightpunk]

"illegal immigrant" is not even a real term. it's technically illegal alien. "undocumented" is a term used to downplay the actions of someone who broke the law. they are in the country with unlawfully, hence ILLEGALLY. anybody can be "undocumented", i can be an "undocumented" driver, if i'm not licensed to drive.

[RuddODragonFear]

To those xenophobes commenting in the thread. Want a job at Google? Apply. Otherwise, GTFO and let foreigners take the jobs.

[RuddODragonFear]

Suggest you check your dictionary for:

- criminal

- amnesty

- insurgent

- invader

Moron.

[xklchakal]

this guys by far kick some s ...

[Ariolander]

This was a well structured speech. If you didn't get it your a fool. Heh nice to see the principles I learned in my Public Address class put into practical application in front of Congress no less.

He told you what he was going to say.

He said what he was going to say.

And he told you what he just said.

I could actually lay out his whole speech into the template outlines we were did in class. Great speech both technically and in delivery.

[GlobalLiberty]

An illegal immigrant is simply undocumented, but is in no way a criminal due to his/her immigration status. There is a difference between illegal and criminal. please use the two words correctly, as they are NOT interchangeable.

thank you

[antenapez]

xddd

[bbruhwiler8]

Google can find the qualified individuals in the pool of American citizens. Say no to the North American Union

[lester638]

Hey up in canada I dont think this policy is half bad due to canadians working for google. So when they come back to canada they taik your ideas and polices from your company to start new spin-offs (ripoffs)of your company....Hard point of view

[HisRoyalDudeliness]

Don't forget about 2012, 2016, 2020, o wait, we're not going to be sovereign by then ^^.

[jimmyjay86]

Excellent speech. Hopefully most of the congressmen were awake and paying attention. The immigrants who came over in the last major wave over a hundred years ago made America what it is today. Yet they were crapped on and the US policy shut down this huge resource. Now we are going to make the same mistake again.

[aaronschon]

wonder what Lou Dobbs and Tom Tancredo think of this?

Is it "losing american jobs to cheap overseas labor markets" Mr Lou "loony rant" Dobbs?

[milesmaximum]

Very important points. My wife is an immigrant, getting a visa is a huge headache and congress is trying to make it impossible to keep my wife here in america.

[HisRoyalDudeliness]

Sorry about your mail order, man.

[svzekio]

Very well done move - it should definately open up the doors for Google to be able to step up its recruitment as (as far I know) it is having the trouble to meet its current demand. Hope this goes well!

[Lightlumina]

Props to Laszlo and Goog for taking a stand.

[HisRoyalDudeliness]

Lol.

[Djronan1]

Google doesn't care about the average worker. They only care about the intelligent ones... do I hear "brain drain" anyone?

[HisRoyalDudeliness]

Yay, someone besides me gets it :).

[pat637]

so what's your point?

[pfaffanator]

immigration is going to be the most debatable topic for the 2008 elections, next to the middle easts wars.

basically this is google the biggest online site in the world addressing the issue. taking on congress head on. not many companies are willing to do that. standing up for the little guy

very bold move Google.

[HisRoyalDudeliness]

They only want the super intelligent ones, mind you, lol.

[pfaffanator]

yes but that is still more than a lot of other companies

[HisRoyalDudeliness]

Yeah, other companies don't want highly intelligent employees, you're totally right.

[pfaffanator]

sometimes yeah. its sick.

[HisRoyalDudeliness]

That was blatant sarcasm man, sorry, but you fail. :D

[pfaffanator]

i know but it is true.

[HisRoyalDudeliness]

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