Monteverdi - Lamento della Ninfa - Dessay

[wishing2fly]

is that stuff at the bottom figured bass?

[franimalistic]

I think in a staged performance this would be wonderful, but in a chamber concert setting I would almost feel vulgar for spying on such emotion! Haha. Luckily it's a recording, so I can just enjoy it.

[MrGipeto66]

Sicuramente una buona interpretazione ma un pò troppo caricata di pathos e alla fine monocorde.

Anche il ritmo sembra troppo rigido;quasi un solfeggio.

Preferisco di gran lunga la Kirkby sebbene vocalmente inferiore alla Dessay.

La Dessay è irraggiungibile in altro repertorio(Pipistrello,Sonnamb­ula,Racconti di Hoffmann)

Ovviamente tutto ciò è un'opinione personale...

[patrickesspi]

OK, it is more romantic than monteverdian but still... I like it.

[outsider950]

ma il vibrato è in stile?

[Guit4rH3roGiRL]

not quite as good as Emma Kirkby, and I prefer it much slower as Kirkby did, but this one is nice.

[kenlifs]

Very nice and poignant. Reminds me of Dido's Lament

[CsaptukEst]

For me Emma Kirkby's gentle voice and the lower tempo of that version is much more beautiful. This sopran is so "brutal" . ' could rather imagine it a ""harder"" piece.

[Liszt31]

Nessuno si é soffermato sui cantori......Sono fantastici... Topi Lethipuu poi é magnifico......

[therealh]

C'è da dire che Monteverdi è stato una pietra miliare nella storia della musica. Di effetto piuttosto particolare la seconda aumentata a battuta 11 (erano altri tempi).

[uomodifficile]

Seems a Karaoke

[emmosCaroline]

1:33 .......

[CetraM3]

Che meraviglia. Monteverdi è struggente e magico. Poi cantato in maniera eccellente dalla Dessay è Paradiso sceso in terra!!!

[killerbunny123123]

uhmm... CIVILESO can you tell me where did u get that photo of Dessay from? the one at the beginning? is it a movie???

[civileso]

Yes, it is from the promotional documentary of the album "Lamenti". You can see the video on YouTube. MehdiCaps posted the whole documentary.

[MrHbc3]

@civileso I love, truly love, the description given by Natalie of the Lamento della Ninfa in that promotional video. I must have listened to/watched it thirty times. What an actress!!!

[ludox4everxxx]

Vero, qualche forzatura stilstica. Ma la comunicativa è tanto vera e la comprensione del testo tanto profonda da lasciare forte emozione. Che nella musica è la cifra vincente.

[youfeda]

è tutto meraviglioso...incredibile Dessay come articola e fraseggia

[FoliesEspagne]

I am not into singing that much and no conaisseur but the vibrato voice is destroying one of the most beautiful pieces ever composed. Can't this be forbidden someway for stuff before 1750?

That's why we have invented legislation for didn't we?

[schepw]

You're absolutely right!! she must be transferred to the romantic league!

[MerlevanderSteen]

What do you think is the best version on youtube of this song?

[FoliesEspagne]

I think the version of Emma Kirkby or La Fenice if they are onboard of YouTube. For the way of singing (no vibrato please!) Lamento della Ninfa - Amor - Claudio Monteverdi by the Savall family will do fine. Anything will be better than this singing saw

[NedRorem]

Yes, you are not into singing that much, you never read any treatise written in the time of Monteverdi and you're no conNaisseur.

[FoliesEspagne]

You don't have to repeat what I already said myself. I'm glad that at least one person can listen to this voice all the way through.

[laurabarocca]

Nou... La dessay è fantastica in Handel, ma qui è troppo ''liricheggiante''... :-/

[EduardoBrasil10000]

Apesar do pouco conhecimento no assunto, eu também a achei um pouco "liriquejante".

[Liszt31]

@laurabarocca Che ne pensi della versione di Nuria Rial?

[laurabarocca]

@Liszt31 Lei è molto brava, ma non mi piace tanto l'accompagnamento... la mia versione preferita è quella del Concerto Italiano con Rossana Bertini..

[primohomme]

This is just too beautiful, it's gotta be a sing!

[Heartlessiceboy]

She is an amazing soprano but maybe madrigal is not really her thing,I really liked her Tecum Pricipum from Handel's Dixit Dominus probably my favorite one besides the Annick Massis one

[margotlorena]

do you want this by Rene Jacobs with Maria Christina Kiehr as Amore?

[civileso]

Hehe, sure! I have about 15-20 versions of this and I can't believe Jacobs is not one of them!

[margotlorena]

where should I send it then? I cant remember which email account you were using

[cuicuimusic]

they are playing it one tone higher than the score and the other versions you posted, don't they ?

[MehdiCaps]

A semitone, I'd say. The others are performed at modern pitch. There will be more, but only in a few days (Eser is too busy right now).

[conejamusical]

i just love dessay... beautiful madrigal

[margotlorena]

lovely madrigal, but I didn't like her very much, what's with the scooping !?!

[daniel0azar]

Yeah... she's not a Baroque specialist... so, as MehdiCaps expressed very nicely, her Baroque singing is very impregnated with Romantic technique.

[thebarroque]

I agree, but the male voices are great...Dessay good in baroque but she really not "shines" in this repertoire as she does in other works.

Thanks for posting! Is wonderful to hear new recordings of this beautiful works

[sopran21]

I agree

[MehdiCaps]

More Verdi than Monte, but it's great. ;)

[margotlorena]

do you say that because of dessay??

[daniel0azar]

hehe I like the analogy lol... somehow true... Dessay's voice remains better suited for Romantic music than for Baroque music... but some of her Baroque interpretations are very touching, such as this one, and Handel's Delirio Amoroso...

[sopran21]

I dont agree.

I think that Baroque music fits her very well.

[SsteinwayS]

I think that any music fits her well. She's so versatile.

[sopran21]

I was thinking about it and I agree with thebarroque that baroque music fits natalie very well but in this work specially in some specific places she doesnt sound so beatifull as useall. for example I didnt like the part when she singns: taci,taci...

anyway this piece is so beatifull. the male voices is simply divine!

[SsteinwayS]

Completely agree with you this time! Unlike last time...I believe we argued about Bartoli vs. Dessay in "Un pensiero nemico di pace" The "taci taci" part actually made me jump, it was so startling and almost ugly! But she brings the Romantic passion into this madrigal but she just overdoes it some times. The male voices are amazing! The faster part in the beginning is to die for, ethereal blending of syllables...I guess Monteverdi's mastery is part of it too.

[sopran21]

you were the one that said that natalie sing "Un pensiero nemico di pace" better then baratoli? I really dont remember.

well at least we agree about this one... : )

however, I totelly love dessay in the baroque music... like thebarroque wrote that natalie really "shines". I dont know what happend to her in this piece.

[SsteinwayS]

Yep that's me! :) I'm a HUGE HUGE HUGE Dessay fan, but obviously not a deaf one. I agree that she's amazing in Baroque music! When she doesn't do vibrato (not a vocalist so I don't what that is...) it's just divine sometimes. Here she's just...god, I don't know? Sounding like being impaled at some parts? I imagine she was flailing all about like crazy when she was singing this....

[grenouilleGG]

About the flailing, you're right. Haven't you seen the pre-release clip for this CD? Have a look on Mehdi's page; she's on the first of the three. (Now that you mention it, "impaled" isn't far off base, either!)

[grenouilleGG]

I don't mean it critically, by the way. Whatever it takes. I'd stand on my head to be able to sing like that. :)

[SsteinwayS]

Me too. I'm a gigantic Dessay fan, but here, it's not as great as some of her other stuff.

I saw the vid just now! Thanks for letting me know, it's awesome! I think I'm going to by a copy.

[smiledenim]

@MehdiCaps Very funny, and true!