Thats great...im not saying u wouldnt gain power, im just saying you would be better off with smaller tubing. You have larger exhaust than some motors coming from the factory that are twice the cubic inches.
I moved from smaller tubing and gained horsepower. I don't know what more proof you want from me. Cubic inches doesn't = needed exhaust flow. It's how much air you can intake first... and then how much exhaust you can get rid of next. The K series cylinder head allows you to do a LOT of both.
In some cases smaller exhaust tubing is preferred. Typically 4 cylinders do not require 3 inch exhaust unless making big power. Hell even most v8s dont need 3 inch exhaust. The reason is hot air flows quicker than cooler air, and with smaller tubing the exhaust gets hotter an thus flows faster and more efficiently. Larger tubes mean more airflow, but cooler temperatures. IMO neither car needs 3 inch exhaust.
Proof is in the pudding sir, 3" exhaust put gains on top of 70mm exhaust. it is better, period. You don't need to explain exhaust to me i know velocity adds power, but also you need the volume to flow enough air for your engine. In the case of my engine, 3" exhaust gained power... not just up top but EVERYWHERE. I'm talking low cam, AND high cam.
runnin an S2000 with bolt ons is no use for a fact, main gains for an s2k is turbo but it will run about 6k and youll be set. However, its a possibility that you can swap an engine and install a turbo for that same price in a civic, maybe just a lil more cash but youll be takin that s2k no problem. but then again,, just depends on how u tune ur car, but it would turn out to a pretty bitchin' race lol
problem is those same mods would cost an arm and a leg by comparison to my mods. For the price of i/h/e, larger throttle body and custom tuning (kpro or aem ems) i could buy cams too... and still be faster :D
You replied to yourself bro, insinuating you want your sister to troll on your own dick and you smoke your own shit buckets all day. Hey, to each their own man.
ughh s2k's are such a bummer. honda better bring back the s2k badder than ever or else they are toast, has anyone seen the 9th gen si??? can you say uber fail.
angrut, I don't know if you aren't reading the responses or if you're just stupid, but read what the guy who posted this video is saying to you about DRIVETRAIN LOSS.
f20 this f20 that and no one realizes its an ap2 with a f22 lol. That si has the stock s2k killer combo.If that s2k was tuned also then it would rape the si. In this case its not. S2k is also a driver's car.If you completely suck at driving or mess up you can feel a huge difference in the car.
It's hard to follow an unknown person who posts vids up on YouTube than a actual tuner with 20 years of knowledge doing motor swaps who appeared in Honda Tuning Magazines with his AP2 K20. Hmmm let me see?? It's a hard choice to make. Sorry bro but I'm gonna go with the guy who did a k20 swap into his AP2. Besides you don't seem like a very bright person who thinks he knows what's he's talking about(^_^)
I don't understand what you're trying to prove here. K > F? I own the si, i love the k series, it waxes the f series in torque production to the wheels in the midrange, all due to intake cam VTC. a k24 swap into an s2000 is an awesome swap, makes about 260 whp if i remember the magazine article. Do you know how much that same k24 makes in a civic? It makes 285-290 whp. You don't seem to understand the concept of drivetrain loss, i'm trying to let you in on it and you don't get it
The F20c uses I believe the old school vtec with no VTC. The k20 is actually more advance using the newer iVtec technology with VTC which actually produces more power than the F20c but out of the box I know the f20c is faster. Try to google it to see which has more potential in tuning modification and horsepower wise. And it shouldn't matter if it's FWD or RWD.
I AM DRIVING THE CIVIC IN THIS VIDEO. I know exactly what the potential of modding the k is.
and it does matter if it's fwd or rwd. You don't seem to understand that the k20 is driving the car through a super efficient transaxle with front wheel drive. and the s2000 is driving the car through a beefier rwd transmission through a driveshaft and through a thick gear oil rear end and THEN the axles.
There is more drivetrain loss... do you understand how that works?
I believe you don't understand the fact that I know that a F20 stock is faster than a K20 stock, it says it clear 197hp to 240hp, but what I'm trying to say to you is that a K motor produces more power than a F motor when it is modified. Basically it's capable of producing more power.
They're actually pretty even. And putting a k20 into an s2000 is a stupid stupid thing to do, i'm sorry. I've seen k24's swapped in, and that's a good swap, but it costs a lot of money to get the custom bellhousing to mount to the transmission. And considering i have both an si and an s2000, i can tell you now, that in the fwd format, the si makes more horsepower at the wheels with just bolt-ons and tuning, but if you put a k20 into the rwd format, it would not make as much hp.
No no your wrong...it's been proven that K series motors respond better with mods. There was an article on Honda Tuning Mag back in 2003 that did a K motor swap into a ap2 chassis. For example I/h/e reflash on a f20c probably gain 20whp at the most where as the K motor picks up a 30whp gain.
No, i'm not wrong. the f20c makes more horsepower at the crank than the k20 does out of the box. If you add 20 whp to an f20c you have to add 50 to a k20 to make the same power at the wheels the f20c does.
You don't seem to understand that the f20c makes 190-200 whp stock at the rear tires. If you put a k20 into an s2000 you have to get a custom bellhousing to mount the transmission and you need custom motor mounts.
By the time you did all that building... you could've built the f20c in the car... and spent much less money for a platform that still performs. A build k20 isn't going to make any more whp than a build f20
The tune really helped your SI with its immediate pickup. You did the right thing by doing that and the TB. Adding torque to these little cars helps a ton.
Really? You can tell what his clutch foot was doing? When there is a brief lack of torque being applied to the car, the nose goes down then back up... That's just what happens. I can't recreate this race again, but his car traps 100-101 in the 1/4 mile, if you were wondering.
I'm sorry. another retard can't read my reply. WHEN I STAY ON TEH GAS PEDAL DURR, AND THE CAR NEXT TO ME SHIFTS DURRR, IT LOOKS LIKE HE SHIFTS POORLY DURRR.
@w00t692 That reply including the "RETARD" comment is not for me. I have an SI and ran multiple S2Ks just like you. None of them have the result on your vid because they know how to drive: The fact that he's shifting at 7800 will make him fall out of VTEC since he's not tuned, or even worse dropping him under his peak torque at 6800.. Hence your nasty pull on him.. Plus you being able to shift higher and making power all the way up there doesn't help him at all.. I did state nice kill pt blank
@h22CrX109 I have an SI with I/H/E and Flashpro and I have pulled 2 s2k's (AP1 and AP2) about the same amount as this video. They were both good drivers and had I/E
It looks that way because i shift after he does. So it looks terrible when he shifts and loses ground while i still have the throttle pegged to the floor.
After reading what you said about your AF makes me believe you more. Listen I never said it wasn't good I just asked for proof. And yea I think the reason he made the power he made with the exhaust is because of the cams. The kid I'm talking about with the IPS cams made that same power after it was corrected. And I know about the RBC manny, I didn't know it came stock on an SI though, now I know. From what I have seen personally a 2.75" makes more power with basic bolt-ons.
If you do it proper, the 3" exhaust available for the Si are SUPER high quality. There were 70mm exhaust for the si, but most everyone had skunk2, which isn't a very high quality exhaust flow wise. I'm only trying to get you to understand that it didn't lose power. It didn't make a ton more than 70mm, but i didn't expect it to.
Explain how a car does a dyno with a 70mm. Then puts on a 3 inch and dynos higher?
I have seen that! I have seen and felt an Si get faster from a 60mm to a 70mm.
I know what scavenging is. I don't know everything about exhausts and flow but numbers don't lie when its back to back. And I saw the difference physically.
@IAmTheRealAsif What are you talking about 70mm is 2.75" NOT 3". I never said a 3"(77mm) would make more power than a 2.75"(70mm). You are making no sense with what you are saying. You must have read something wrong.
The car we used was a 06 type-s which is the same motor as your... actually better. We did all sort of mod changes to see what works. Using a 2.75" exhaust gave way more power than using a 3". Using the 3" actaully lost power over the stock exhaust when the supporting mods were a I/H and fuel adjustments. Vtec only controls the intake timing of the valves not the exhaust. The exhaust valves open to the same degree when vtecand non-vtec engagement. Vtec has no major effect on exhaust flow.
Vtec on the exhaust cam has MAJOR effects on exhaust flow are you kidding me? Just because it's only variable intake timing doesn't mean you can't perfect the VE of the engine and alter the torque curve drastically. PS: k20z3's use superior intake manifolds to the k20z1 in the 06 rsx-s and have the EXACT same cams. the k20z1 in the rsx-s from 05-06 is in no way better than the k20z3 in the 06+ si.
If Honda put variable timing on the exhaust cam, it would be from about -10 to +10 degrees at the most, as top end power comes from retarding the exhaust cam slightly. I could honestly give a shit what your k20z1 did, it's not even the same setup, you didn't use a larger throttle body, you didn't use a 3" straight through intake, and you didn't use an RBC intake manifold. All your comparisons are null and void.
No I don't have anything wrong. I was explaining how my friend went from a 60-70mm and gained power. My friend went from a 70mm to 3 inch and gained power on his k20z3. I have seen the dynos, I have seen it in person. A 3 inch DEF does not lose power over stock.
No point in arguing here, I guess we have to agree to disagree.
Can I ask why you would get a 3" exhaust on a NA car, unless you are going forced later on I get it. But if you aren't, you are losing power. You would get better results with a 2.5 or 2.75.
@w00t692 Do you personally have proof of your car? I know all about the 8thgen forum, thats all I here about the kid who knows nothing about cars talk about at autozone. Explain to me how a 3" exhaust would give you power when you only have bolt-ons. It has nothing to do with the car it has to do with engines in general. You have probably like 210whp with your mods, how do you think it is giving you power. I guarantee you; you would make more power with a 2.5 or 2.75 exhaust.
@IAmTheRealAsif Explain to me how a engine with just a header, flash, and 3" exhaust is going to make power. Do you know how engines work. I'm not saying a 3" is bad but if you don't have the mods to support it; it's use less. When I was in school we dyno'd a car right from the block in the car with no header on the engine and it made WAY less power compared to when we put a header and exhaust on. It's engine DYNAMICS. Don't come on here and tell me I'm wrong and to go talk to someone else.
I have a honda head. I have been into hondas for ever. I have seen from my own personal expierience what works and what doesnt. My friend went from a 60-70mm and his car got alot faster. Not a butt dyno feel his car got faster. Honda heads have ridiculous flow. Thats why they benefit with these bigger exhausts.
@IAmTheRealAsif You do realize you just proved my point right. Your friend has a 70mm(2.75") exhaust which gave him more power. Let him put on a 3" and lets see what he says. Do you understand how much of a difference 1/4" makes on exhaust flow. Like I said before if you don't have the mods to support 3" than don't get it. People start saying I'm wrong and they can't prove it. I am talking facts, they are stating opinions. You lose back pressure and most important SCAVENGING.
@IAmTheRealAsif Look up scavenging and you will see why having the right size exhaust matters. And a 3" exhaust is not the right size when supports mods are I/H and flash. It proves my point in the third sentence on wikipedia.
This engine has VARIABLE VALVE TIMING. IT GIVES THE ENGINE THE ABILITY TO PERFECT THE VOLUMETRIC EFFICIENCY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE REV RANGE. After 3" exhaust my peak torque moved from 5300 rpms to 4900 rpms. You SERIOUSLY need to look into why NEW engines can use big exhaust and stop clinging to old.
Also dynoing an engine without a header has absolutely nothing to do with why THIS engine in THIS car makes more power with 3" exhaust. Without a header you have zero scavenging effect from the header sucking air through the overlapping vavles pulling in extra air through the intake in this fashion. Also you lose all velocity.
@w00t692 Don't come at me like I don't know what I am talking about. I love Hondas and always will. One reason I love them is because they are underestimated A LOT. They are underestimated because of the mass quantities of unknowledgeable people spiting out opinions of what they think and not facts of result they have tested first hand. All these opinions are passed on to people like they are facts and people start believeing them.
@w00t692 When a person comes around stating facts and from experience people start to flame them because of what they have heard or read and not what they have experienced themselves. Go dyno your car with all the same stuff you have on now and only change the exhaust from 3" to 2.75" and show me the results of both with each exhaust. Without a doubt in my mind you will make more power with the 2.75".
@w00t692 Show the dyno sheet. You saying numbers doesn't prove shit. Put on a 2.75" and you will see better gains. Why don't you just put on a 3.5" or 4" than, it's bigger so it has to be better right...
3.5 and 4" would be too big, the velocity would drop too low. Apparently you're some kind of retard that has no clue that a honda 4 cylinder flows more air through it's cylinder head than nearly any v8 that you can buy. The engine is 11.0:1 compression ratio and i've already explained to your stupid ass why the engine can use a 3" exhaust but you kindly ignored that and went back to telling me to put absurdly large exhaust on my car trying to prove some point you think means somethin
@w00t692 You know a person is wrong when they have to resort to insults. W.e there is no point in talking to someone that has no proof and is just talking for the sake of argueing. And the 3.5",4" thing was a joke but obviously you didn't get it. Have fun with your misinformation. Show me YOUR proof of dyno's and I will believe it. I have prood do you. Bigger isn' always better. And I never said vtec didn't have an effect on exhaust I said it didn't have as much as intake.
Bigger isn't always better, but 3" exhaust on a naturally aspirated vehicle isn't a ridiculous notion like you seem to think it is. I'm sorry but your k20z1 is not a k20z3 and it's not the same. I'm sure you used some fucking galvanized fence post in your joke ASE mechanic class for a 3" exhaust. Wanna see a k20 make even more power? run it open header on a 4-2-1 aftermarket header, slight low end loss for a net gain of horsepower up top. I tuned my car to the horsepower it made.
@w00t692 I also said 3" is worth it on NA if you have the mods to support it. Maybe your problem is not being able to read properly. It wasn't my car it was a kid in my class. He had ingen CAI, Hytech race header with the hytech twin loop exhaust, with RBC manifold and intake manny gasket, mild port head from Endyn and had them install his K2 cams. So before you start making assumptions know what you are talking about.
@w00t692 He is the reason I know about endyn and hytech and this was a while ago. There was another kid in our class with a 07 si with a 3" cat-back. He had a turbo car before and thought that 3" was better but it wasn't. Everyone in class laughed at him because he thought it would make more power when we dyno'd it I forgot how much it put down but after we put on a 2.75" and it made more power than the 3". He had a header and SRI for supporting mods.
@w00t692 Your right the z1 isn't the same as the z3 because the z1 is better. The only down fall is the intake manifold which can be easilt replace for $400 for a RBC and gasket. I didn't go to some ASE mechanic school again you assume things and make yourself look bad.
the z1 is not better. There you go spouting things off you don't even have a clue about. The z1 and z3 use the exact same cams. The cams are the same cams from the DC5-R. But the z3 uses the RBC intake manifold which is better. Both engines are very similar to one another, neither is better than the other, because they are basically the same. Thanks for letting me know you didn't even go to school, you're just talking shit for no reason. 3 INCH EXHAUST MAKES POWER. Period.
@w00t692 I know all about the K-series just because I don't go into detail about it doesn't mean anything. Your one of those people that can't prove anything so you just stick you what others say. And I did go to school, IDK where you would get the idea that I didn't because I have logic and say that a 3" exhaust on a NA car with just I/H isn't going to give you power. You can think w.e you want. It's your opinion and my facts.
ALL YOU'VE GIVEN IS OPINIONS. You haven't provided any facts either besides bullshit about how your k20z1 dyno'd more horsepower with 2.75" exhaust. Look at the updated description for a link to a guy that compared 3" to 70mm
Seriously, just make ONE post on k20a.org with your 70mm > 3" statement... and prepare to be flamed for being stupid.
@w00t692 Tell me where I can post the dyno sheets I have and I will. Lets see your and I'll show mine. I think I have a video as well if I can find it. Put your money where you mouth is.
@w00t692 I just looked at the on road pulls. First off him making 239whp means he HAS the supporting mods for a 3" exhaust i.e cams like he stated. Like I said before 3" on NA is good if you have the supporting mods. But seeing how you can't read what I say you still argue. Second those numbers aren't even corrected. And again i never said it was MY type-s which you seem to not understand but I get it...you can't read.
I never said it was your actual car. I refer to it as "your k20z1" as reference, not because i think it's your car. So you think that the only reason he gained horsepower was because of the cams? The RBC is a better flowing manifold, both top end power wise and mid range wise. I have the supporting mods for 3" exhaust, i have a larger throttle body, i have a properly designed intake both length and diameter wise, i have a VERY good 4-2-1 2.5" collector header and the 3" exhaust.
I REALLY wish i kept these datalogs so i could screenshot for you the power gain from my 3" exhaust. When you add a modification, same day, same weather, and you check your afr's afterwards, if you have gone richer, you probably lost power in that area (same amount of fuel, less need for it) if you went leaner you will gain power (same fuel, but car needs more now) When i went from 70mm to 3" My flat as a board 12.9:1 AFR changed at 4000-5500 from 12.9:1 up to 15.3:1
After 4000-5500 where it spiked to 15.3:1 it settled in past that point to around 13.1:1 up from 12.9:1 meaning the car wanted more fuel past that point. The changes past 4000-5500 didn't gain much of any power, but the changes at 4000-5500 moved my peak torque downwards.
@w00t692 I have seen so much bullshit when people come to talking about mods than they get dyno'd and they make no where near what they made and think something is wrong. A lot of people throw stuff on their car and expect it to make power. I would be the first person to say I'm wrong if I see definitive proof but that link you posted doesn't convince me. I tried searching on 8th gen but you can't unless you are a member and I don't wanna make an acc. for no reason.
@KoukiR So he posts a dyno of a 3 inch making more power and you yell at him for not proving anything and that he's just spouting off his own opinion? I'm pretty certain now you have never set foot in an educational facility because if you had, you wouldn't be so confused about what the fuck a fact is.
@IAmTheRealAsif I know Jeff knows everything and you go talk to him and ask if a car with a header and 3" exhaust is going to make more power than smaller one and tell me what he says. The guy is a genius if he says a 3" exhaust is going to make more power on a stock car compared to a smaller one that is right than I want to know why. I don't go on other peoples unknowlegdeable opinions. I go on proven facts that are done by unbiased testers, not the manufacturer, they lie to sell a product.
@w00t692 My friend had a 06 GTO-TT with a 2.75" and it was PROVEN that he made more power with it than when they tried it with a 3". The type of car has nothing to do with engine dynamics. Try drinking water out of a straw than try drinking water out of a paper towel roll. You lose back pressure and most importantly SCAVENGING. I know what I'm talking about I just don't go off hearsay off forums. Look up scavenging on wiki and read the whole thing but most importantly the second sentance
Yeah but the myth is that you need this back pressure. You don't. It's so annoying to hear people say it. This engine flows more air than 1 side of most V8''s do. Why wouldn't i want a 3" exhaust?
@w00t692 Is it like with flashpro? Cuz i know in the main calibration screen under "Throttle" the tb is dampened from stock, after I unchecked that box it was a whole different ball game in 1st lol.
w00t692 niiccee...i noticed in your other vid you have the skunk2 header if you dont mind me asking which one did you like more and why did you switch from the ssr rep to the s2, ive been looking for ssr rep myself and are u on 8th...alrite bro thanks
seems like you had the jump on both races, good runs though
513bb6 1 day ago
@513bb6
The second race i did not have a the jump, he started outside of vtec... and i didn't. Notice him press the gas before me...
w00t692 1 hour ago
K20!!!
TheTrollingspree 1 week ago
Why is the s2k shifting early?
speeddemon157mph 1 week ago
Lol wtf!? How many hp is that civic putting out?? That's crazy awesome!
St00ge1 4 weeks ago
Thats great...im not saying u wouldnt gain power, im just saying you would be better off with smaller tubing. You have larger exhaust than some motors coming from the factory that are twice the cubic inches.
shoppy16 1 month ago
@shoppy16
I moved from smaller tubing and gained horsepower. I don't know what more proof you want from me. Cubic inches doesn't = needed exhaust flow. It's how much air you can intake first... and then how much exhaust you can get rid of next. The K series cylinder head allows you to do a LOT of both.
w00t692 1 month ago
In some cases smaller exhaust tubing is preferred. Typically 4 cylinders do not require 3 inch exhaust unless making big power. Hell even most v8s dont need 3 inch exhaust. The reason is hot air flows quicker than cooler air, and with smaller tubing the exhaust gets hotter an thus flows faster and more efficiently. Larger tubes mean more airflow, but cooler temperatures. IMO neither car needs 3 inch exhaust.
shoppy16 1 month ago
@shoppy16
Proof is in the pudding sir, 3" exhaust put gains on top of 70mm exhaust. it is better, period. You don't need to explain exhaust to me i know velocity adds power, but also you need the volume to flow enough air for your engine. In the case of my engine, 3" exhaust gained power... not just up top but EVERYWHERE. I'm talking low cam, AND high cam.
w00t692 1 month ago
civic sounded amazing!
pundit116 2 months ago
Knocking on the window and trying to scream to get his attention when you have a horn was the greatest part of this vid!!!
nickgtracer996 2 months ago
That si is amazing! if they were both stock, the si would be no match for that honda v6
posvibration21 3 months ago
@posvibration21
That other Honda is a 4 cylinder, not a V6.
w00t692 3 months ago 15
runnin an S2000 with bolt ons is no use for a fact, main gains for an s2k is turbo but it will run about 6k and youll be set. However, its a possibility that you can swap an engine and install a turbo for that same price in a civic, maybe just a lil more cash but youll be takin that s2k no problem. but then again,, just depends on how u tune ur car, but it would turn out to a pretty bitchin' race lol
abn562 4 months ago
if people knew anything about s2000's they dont gain much if it anything at all from bolt ons, theyre already highly tuned.
factoryman1988 4 months ago
Dam look at all the shit you needed to beat the s2k though. Stock for stock you would loose but i give you props man you have a hell of a car
MultiChicklets 5 months ago
@MultiChicklets
Yeah it's no contest when stock, he puts lengths on me.
w00t692 5 months ago
@MultiChicklets All of what shit? He has a handful of basic bolt-on parts. It's still a heck of a lot cheaper than an S2K. lol.
850wagonT5 4 months ago
Lol throw the same mods on the s2k that the si has.. Rematch ahaha..
ffe224 5 months ago
@ffe224
problem is those same mods would cost an arm and a leg by comparison to my mods. For the price of i/h/e, larger throttle body and custom tuning (kpro or aem ems) i could buy cams too... and still be faster :D
w00t692 5 months ago
haha the s2000 driver sucks
eundaddy 5 months ago
try stock for stock lol
riceboi1983 5 months ago
@riceboi1983
Stupid comment. No shit he's faster than me stock, but this video shows how well the k20 gains horsepower from simple bolt-ons and a tune.
w00t692 5 months ago
didnt' expect that....
CoupeDeville23 5 months ago
Amazing race. Respect the si
lenisk8 5 months ago
Yo, if that's u in the si, u got great shifting skills!
RockyHillTrickShotz 5 months ago
s2000 slower than it?
DtoWnSux1 5 months ago
@w00t692
Then you got yourself a real quick si my friend.. Good stuff
AaronBurgerBaron1 5 months ago
S2 shifting way to early
AaronBurgerBaron1 5 months ago
@AaronBurgerBaron1
My civic si's rev limit: 8800 rpms
The s2000's rev limit: 8200 rpms
No.. he's not shifting early
w00t692 5 months ago
S2000 dude. Roll up the window. Thats why you loosing.
cmodsonly4you 5 months ago
s2000 lost to civic..pretty lame...Please sell it man...It's not cool anymore if you loose to a civic!!!!!
CuntIEatYou 5 months ago
CLOSE your windows fool! LESS air resistance!
SRIspicee 6 months ago
@SRIspicee
window was closed :P although my buddy's wasn't.
w00t692 6 months ago
@w00t692
well now you just look dumb for yelling at a closed window lol
jowen034 5 months ago
you ever ran at the track yet?
inv1sion 7 months ago
@inv1sion
Yes plenty of times. i've run anywhere from 14.1 to 14.7, but always with 97-100 mph trap speeds
w00t692 7 months ago
@w00t692 really? surprised you aren't hitting high 13s, with my mods i would probably be running 15s then.
inv1sion 7 months ago
someone cant shift
Androidi22 7 months ago
and it was a sedan.
poonpiratex420 7 months ago
@poonpiratex420
Aye, that it was.
w00t692 7 months ago
YOU'RE ALL WRONG AND THIS GUY IN THE S' DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO DRIVE. OK BYE.
TheJesseRuiz 7 months ago
lol roll down the window xD
aznlove251misan 8 months ago
@aznlove251misan
Yeah i'm pretty genius.
w00t692 8 months ago
@w00t692 lol
aznlove251misan 8 months ago
@aznlove251misan windows up = more aerodynamic = win;)
jdn052192 7 months ago
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sejfiu100 8 months ago
@sejfiu100
Congrats on being pretty stupid. You don't hear vtec engage because i was already in vtec when the race started.
w00t692 8 months ago 9
@w00t692 lol treated! vtec ftw!
sportsfan6776 8 months ago
@sejfiu100
dude your a failure, vslug? gtfo lameass troll.
tyxium 7 months ago
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sejfiu100 7 months ago
@sejfiu100
You replied to yourself bro, insinuating you want your sister to troll on your own dick and you smoke your own shit buckets all day. Hey, to each their own man.
w00t692 7 months ago
ughh s2k's are such a bummer. honda better bring back the s2k badder than ever or else they are toast, has anyone seen the 9th gen si??? can you say uber fail.
mrdragking13 10 months ago
@mrdragking13 you should take a look at the RR civic
deckan315 8 months ago
Is your tsx throttle body a direct bolt on to the civic?? No tuning required?
angrut 10 months ago
@angrut
yes, it's a direct bolt on.
w00t692 10 months ago
@w00t692 how much HP do you think the tsx throttle body gives? does it feel a lot more responsive?
590221010 7 months ago
@590221010
a few horsepower, not really a huge difference.
w00t692 7 months ago
Hey is it true that a Corolla XRS with I/H/E tuned be able to beat our Civic's with I/H/E reflash?
angrut 10 months ago
@angrut
It should be a close close race with equal mods.
w00t692 10 months ago
@angrut yes until the vtec kicks in
lockyjose 10 months ago
@w00t692
Hey do you have any parts for sale? email me @ jrnat808@yahoo.com
angrut 1 year ago
angrut, I don't know if you aren't reading the responses or if you're just stupid, but read what the guy who posted this video is saying to you about DRIVETRAIN LOSS.
jsuttonus 1 year ago
Fully built a F series and fully built a K series... The outcome is the K will be powerful PERIOD!!!!
angrut 1 year ago
@angrut
J's builds F series with 300 horsepower at the crank...
w00t692 1 year ago
@angrut thats because those k20s are so under-built they can gain hp even if u placed a cup as an intake lmao!
ovariesniper 9 months ago
f20 this f20 that and no one realizes its an ap2 with a f22 lol. That si has the stock s2k killer combo.If that s2k was tuned also then it would rape the si. In this case its not. S2k is also a driver's car.If you completely suck at driving or mess up you can feel a huge difference in the car.
somesillirabbit 1 year ago
@somesillirabbit
I know the f22 is what's in this car. The guy just started arguing about stupid shit and semantics with me.
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692
It's hard to follow an unknown person who posts vids up on YouTube than a actual tuner with 20 years of knowledge doing motor swaps who appeared in Honda Tuning Magazines with his AP2 K20. Hmmm let me see?? It's a hard choice to make. Sorry bro but I'm gonna go with the guy who did a k20 swap into his AP2. Besides you don't seem like a very bright person who thinks he knows what's he's talking about(^_^)
angrut 1 year ago
@angrut
I don't understand what you're trying to prove here. K > F? I own the si, i love the k series, it waxes the f series in torque production to the wheels in the midrange, all due to intake cam VTC. a k24 swap into an s2000 is an awesome swap, makes about 260 whp if i remember the magazine article. Do you know how much that same k24 makes in a civic? It makes 285-290 whp. You don't seem to understand the concept of drivetrain loss, i'm trying to let you in on it and you don't get it
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692
The F20c uses I believe the old school vtec with no VTC. The k20 is actually more advance using the newer iVtec technology with VTC which actually produces more power than the F20c but out of the box I know the f20c is faster. Try to google it to see which has more potential in tuning modification and horsepower wise. And it shouldn't matter if it's FWD or RWD.
angrut 1 year ago
@angrut
I AM DRIVING THE CIVIC IN THIS VIDEO. I know exactly what the potential of modding the k is.
and it does matter if it's fwd or rwd. You don't seem to understand that the k20 is driving the car through a super efficient transaxle with front wheel drive. and the s2000 is driving the car through a beefier rwd transmission through a driveshaft and through a thick gear oil rear end and THEN the axles.
There is more drivetrain loss... do you understand how that works?
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692
I believe you don't understand the fact that I know that a F20 stock is faster than a K20 stock, it says it clear 197hp to 240hp, but what I'm trying to say to you is that a K motor produces more power than a F motor when it is modified. Basically it's capable of producing more power.
angrut 1 year ago
@angrut
They're actually pretty even. And putting a k20 into an s2000 is a stupid stupid thing to do, i'm sorry. I've seen k24's swapped in, and that's a good swap, but it costs a lot of money to get the custom bellhousing to mount to the transmission. And considering i have both an si and an s2000, i can tell you now, that in the fwd format, the si makes more horsepower at the wheels with just bolt-ons and tuning, but if you put a k20 into the rwd format, it would not make as much hp.
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692
No no your wrong...it's been proven that K series motors respond better with mods. There was an article on Honda Tuning Mag back in 2003 that did a K motor swap into a ap2 chassis. For example I/h/e reflash on a f20c probably gain 20whp at the most where as the K motor picks up a 30whp gain.
angrut 1 year ago
@angrut
No, i'm not wrong. the f20c makes more horsepower at the crank than the k20 does out of the box. If you add 20 whp to an f20c you have to add 50 to a k20 to make the same power at the wheels the f20c does.
You don't seem to understand that the f20c makes 190-200 whp stock at the rear tires. If you put a k20 into an s2000 you have to get a custom bellhousing to mount the transmission and you need custom motor mounts.
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692
It doesn't have to be a k24. It can be a K20 too as long as it's fully built.
angrut 1 year ago
@angrut
By the time you did all that building... you could've built the f20c in the car... and spent much less money for a platform that still performs. A build k20 isn't going to make any more whp than a build f20
w00t692 1 year ago
Thinking of getting an S2k and swapping the F series for a K series, because in reality the K series makes more power modified.
angrut 1 year ago
@angrut
Only if it's a built cammed k24. If you put a k20 in there you will be slower than the F22 you just took out.
w00t692 1 year ago
The tune really helped your SI with its immediate pickup. You did the right thing by doing that and the TB. Adding torque to these little cars helps a ton.
nevermissclancom 1 year ago
@nevermissclancom
You have no idea how much different it feels. It almost doesn't matter what rpm i punch it from, it just goes.
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692 haha I know what torque feels like. Trust me I have 310 lb ft of it. :) Your car runs great man.
nevermissclancom 1 year ago
@nevermissclancom
Nah, i didn't mean you don't know what torque feels like. I meant you have no idea what it was like before and after. It was night and day.
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692 Yeah I bet it felt great. I actually really want an Si as a daily driver. Great gas mileage and good performance in one package is great.
nevermissclancom 1 year ago
Some body TAKE AWAY HIS GoD DAM KEYS THAT S2K SHOULD NOT BE ANBERISD LIKE THAT. DAM
Sleepe00 1 year ago
@Sleepe00
what the hell does this even mean? let me ask you guys something. Out of the 2 runs, which run are you referring to him shifting like shit?
w00t692 1 year ago
That guy in s2000 can't shift for shit and the way he releases the clutch just wow.
DBLOCK020 1 year ago
@DBLOCK020
Really? You can tell what his clutch foot was doing? When there is a brief lack of torque being applied to the car, the nose goes down then back up... That's just what happens. I can't recreate this race again, but his car traps 100-101 in the 1/4 mile, if you were wondering.
w00t692 1 year ago
did that guy just tap his window? lol like he can hear you?
azodinblitz 1 year ago
Woow!! So many "hater" comments!! Good runs, nice kill point blank ! But yea I hope s2k driver has improved on his skills lately.. no offense.. lol..
h22CrX109 1 year ago
@h22CrX109
I'm sorry. another retard can't read my reply. WHEN I STAY ON TEH GAS PEDAL DURR, AND THE CAR NEXT TO ME SHIFTS DURRR, IT LOOKS LIKE HE SHIFTS POORLY DURRR.
There, maybe you can understand it now.
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692 That reply including the "RETARD" comment is not for me. I have an SI and ran multiple S2Ks just like you. None of them have the result on your vid because they know how to drive: The fact that he's shifting at 7800 will make him fall out of VTEC since he's not tuned, or even worse dropping him under his peak torque at 6800.. Hence your nasty pull on him.. Plus you being able to shift higher and making power all the way up there doesn't help him at all.. I did state nice kill pt blank
h22CrX109 1 year ago
@h22CrX109
he wasn't shifting at 7800. and the 2nd time he started outside of vtec. read the description.
w00t692 1 year ago
@h22CrX109 I have an SI with I/H/E and Flashpro and I have pulled 2 s2k's (AP1 and AP2) about the same amount as this video. They were both good drivers and had I/E
ITRlover1 1 year ago
@ITRlover1 Ok cool. You guys are probably right. I just realized that the only two AP2s I ran were the two quickest down here for their mods.
h22CrX109 1 year ago
Looks like the guy in the ap2 didn't shift right.
angrut 1 year ago
@angrut
One more time for all the retards. That's what it looks like when you're shifting next to a car that shifts after you do.
w00t692 1 year ago
Yeah, keep talking. The 5 speed I got will kick your cars ass anyday.
EG6kidd 1 year ago
The sweet Honda exhaust tone. It's like music to my ears.
xxxH22VTECxxx 1 year ago
lol did you seriously knock in the wnidow? haha im pretty sure he wont hear you
Dani01c 1 year ago
Wow! S2k has VTEC kid. No such thing as non-VTEC S2k granny shifting.
EG6kidd 1 year ago
@EG6kidd
Holy shit, my S2000 has VTEC? Thanks for letting me know!
bolonysalad 1 year ago
@EG6kidd
Words cannot describe how stupid you are. go back to your b18/16 and shitty 5 speed.
w00t692 1 year ago
WOW, that dude in the AP2 cannot shift at all. He should be shifting at 8k he sounds like its at 6.5 or 7k.
DemonAway 1 year ago
@DemonAway
No... he shifted at 7800 or so every single gear....
w00t692 1 year ago
@DemonAway
My si revs to 8800 rpms... So of course the gears sound longer and look longer.
w00t692 1 year ago
guy in s2000 learn how to shift
omgfroobynoobs 1 year ago
@omgfroobynoobs
It looks that way because i shift after he does. So it looks terrible when he shifts and loses ground while i still have the throttle pegged to the floor.
w00t692 1 year ago
After reading what you said about your AF makes me believe you more. Listen I never said it wasn't good I just asked for proof. And yea I think the reason he made the power he made with the exhaust is because of the cams. The kid I'm talking about with the IPS cams made that same power after it was corrected. And I know about the RBC manny, I didn't know it came stock on an SI though, now I know. From what I have seen personally a 2.75" makes more power with basic bolt-ons.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@KoukiR
If you do it proper, the 3" exhaust available for the Si are SUPER high quality. There were 70mm exhaust for the si, but most everyone had skunk2, which isn't a very high quality exhaust flow wise. I'm only trying to get you to understand that it didn't lose power. It didn't make a ton more than 70mm, but i didn't expect it to.
w00t692 1 year ago
Check the updated description for 3" vs 70mm and so you can learn something in school today.
w00t692 1 year ago
Explain how a car does a dyno with a 70mm. Then puts on a 3 inch and dynos higher?
I have seen that! I have seen and felt an Si get faster from a 60mm to a 70mm.
I know what scavenging is. I don't know everything about exhausts and flow but numbers don't lie when its back to back. And I saw the difference physically.
IAmTheRealAsif 1 year ago
@IAmTheRealAsif What are you talking about 70mm is 2.75" NOT 3". I never said a 3"(77mm) would make more power than a 2.75"(70mm). You are making no sense with what you are saying. You must have read something wrong.
KoukiR 1 year ago
The car we used was a 06 type-s which is the same motor as your... actually better. We did all sort of mod changes to see what works. Using a 2.75" exhaust gave way more power than using a 3". Using the 3" actaully lost power over the stock exhaust when the supporting mods were a I/H and fuel adjustments. Vtec only controls the intake timing of the valves not the exhaust. The exhaust valves open to the same degree when vtecand non-vtec engagement. Vtec has no major effect on exhaust flow.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@KoukiR
Vtec on the exhaust cam has MAJOR effects on exhaust flow are you kidding me? Just because it's only variable intake timing doesn't mean you can't perfect the VE of the engine and alter the torque curve drastically. PS: k20z3's use superior intake manifolds to the k20z1 in the 06 rsx-s and have the EXACT same cams. the k20z1 in the rsx-s from 05-06 is in no way better than the k20z3 in the 06+ si.
w00t692 1 year ago
@KoukiR
If Honda put variable timing on the exhaust cam, it would be from about -10 to +10 degrees at the most, as top end power comes from retarding the exhaust cam slightly. I could honestly give a shit what your k20z1 did, it's not even the same setup, you didn't use a larger throttle body, you didn't use a 3" straight through intake, and you didn't use an RBC intake manifold. All your comparisons are null and void.
w00t692 1 year ago
@KoukiR
No I don't have anything wrong. I was explaining how my friend went from a 60-70mm and gained power. My friend went from a 70mm to 3 inch and gained power on his k20z3. I have seen the dynos, I have seen it in person. A 3 inch DEF does not lose power over stock.
No point in arguing here, I guess we have to agree to disagree.
IAmTheRealAsif 1 year ago
iuno...on the forums ive seen our cars make more power with a 3in then a 2 1/2 or 2 3/4
tougeM2 1 year ago
haha..it's funny how you knock on the window...lol
reglus03 1 year ago
@reglus03
rofl, yeah. I felt tarded after that.
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692 haha..yeah but i like your 3rd gear
reglus03 1 year ago
Can I ask why you would get a 3" exhaust on a NA car, unless you are going forced later on I get it. But if you aren't, you are losing power. You would get better results with a 2.5 or 2.75.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@KoukiR
You are so wrong. Please look on 8thcivic for all the 3" exhaust results. I didn't lose power i gained power.
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692 Do you personally have proof of your car? I know all about the 8thgen forum, thats all I here about the kid who knows nothing about cars talk about at autozone. Explain to me how a 3" exhaust would give you power when you only have bolt-ons. It has nothing to do with the car it has to do with engines in general. You have probably like 210whp with your mods, how do you think it is giving you power. I guarantee you; you would make more power with a 2.5 or 2.75 exhaust.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@KoukiR
Your wrong 3 inch makes more power everywhere. Go ask Jeff Evans. I have seen dyno charts. You are wrong.
IAmTheRealAsif 1 year ago
@IAmTheRealAsif Explain to me how a engine with just a header, flash, and 3" exhaust is going to make power. Do you know how engines work. I'm not saying a 3" is bad but if you don't have the mods to support it; it's use less. When I was in school we dyno'd a car right from the block in the car with no header on the engine and it made WAY less power compared to when we put a header and exhaust on. It's engine DYNAMICS. Don't come on here and tell me I'm wrong and to go talk to someone else.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@KoukiR
I have a honda head. I have been into hondas for ever. I have seen from my own personal expierience what works and what doesnt. My friend went from a 60-70mm and his car got alot faster. Not a butt dyno feel his car got faster. Honda heads have ridiculous flow. Thats why they benefit with these bigger exhausts.
IAmTheRealAsif 1 year ago
@IAmTheRealAsif You do realize you just proved my point right. Your friend has a 70mm(2.75") exhaust which gave him more power. Let him put on a 3" and lets see what he says. Do you understand how much of a difference 1/4" makes on exhaust flow. Like I said before if you don't have the mods to support 3" than don't get it. People start saying I'm wrong and they can't prove it. I am talking facts, they are stating opinions. You lose back pressure and most important SCAVENGING.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@IAmTheRealAsif Look up scavenging and you will see why having the right size exhaust matters. And a 3" exhaust is not the right size when supports mods are I/H and flash. It proves my point in the third sentence on wikipedia.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@KoukiR
This engine has VARIABLE VALVE TIMING. IT GIVES THE ENGINE THE ABILITY TO PERFECT THE VOLUMETRIC EFFICIENCY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE REV RANGE. After 3" exhaust my peak torque moved from 5300 rpms to 4900 rpms. You SERIOUSLY need to look into why NEW engines can use big exhaust and stop clinging to old.
w00t692 1 year ago
@KoukiR
Also dynoing an engine without a header has absolutely nothing to do with why THIS engine in THIS car makes more power with 3" exhaust. Without a header you have zero scavenging effect from the header sucking air through the overlapping vavles pulling in extra air through the intake in this fashion. Also you lose all velocity.
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692 Don't come at me like I don't know what I am talking about. I love Hondas and always will. One reason I love them is because they are underestimated A LOT. They are underestimated because of the mass quantities of unknowledgeable people spiting out opinions of what they think and not facts of result they have tested first hand. All these opinions are passed on to people like they are facts and people start believeing them.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@w00t692 When a person comes around stating facts and from experience people start to flame them because of what they have heard or read and not what they have experienced themselves. Go dyno your car with all the same stuff you have on now and only change the exhaust from 3" to 2.75" and show me the results of both with each exhaust. Without a doubt in my mind you will make more power with the 2.75".
KoukiR 1 year ago
@KoukiR
Been there, done that. I picked up 7 horsepower from 4500-6000 with the 3" and about 4 horsepower on the top end.
any more questions?
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692 Show the dyno sheet. You saying numbers doesn't prove shit. Put on a 2.75" and you will see better gains. Why don't you just put on a 3.5" or 4" than, it's bigger so it has to be better right...
KoukiR 1 year ago
@KoukiR
3.5 and 4" would be too big, the velocity would drop too low. Apparently you're some kind of retard that has no clue that a honda 4 cylinder flows more air through it's cylinder head than nearly any v8 that you can buy. The engine is 11.0:1 compression ratio and i've already explained to your stupid ass why the engine can use a 3" exhaust but you kindly ignored that and went back to telling me to put absurdly large exhaust on my car trying to prove some point you think means somethin
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692 You know a person is wrong when they have to resort to insults. W.e there is no point in talking to someone that has no proof and is just talking for the sake of argueing. And the 3.5",4" thing was a joke but obviously you didn't get it. Have fun with your misinformation. Show me YOUR proof of dyno's and I will believe it. I have prood do you. Bigger isn' always better. And I never said vtec didn't have an effect on exhaust I said it didn't have as much as intake.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@KoukiR
Bigger isn't always better, but 3" exhaust on a naturally aspirated vehicle isn't a ridiculous notion like you seem to think it is. I'm sorry but your k20z1 is not a k20z3 and it's not the same. I'm sure you used some fucking galvanized fence post in your joke ASE mechanic class for a 3" exhaust. Wanna see a k20 make even more power? run it open header on a 4-2-1 aftermarket header, slight low end loss for a net gain of horsepower up top. I tuned my car to the horsepower it made.
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692 I also said 3" is worth it on NA if you have the mods to support it. Maybe your problem is not being able to read properly. It wasn't my car it was a kid in my class. He had ingen CAI, Hytech race header with the hytech twin loop exhaust, with RBC manifold and intake manny gasket, mild port head from Endyn and had them install his K2 cams. So before you start making assumptions know what you are talking about.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@w00t692 He is the reason I know about endyn and hytech and this was a while ago. There was another kid in our class with a 07 si with a 3" cat-back. He had a turbo car before and thought that 3" was better but it wasn't. Everyone in class laughed at him because he thought it would make more power when we dyno'd it I forgot how much it put down but after we put on a 2.75" and it made more power than the 3". He had a header and SRI for supporting mods.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@w00t692 Your right the z1 isn't the same as the z3 because the z1 is better. The only down fall is the intake manifold which can be easilt replace for $400 for a RBC and gasket. I didn't go to some ASE mechanic school again you assume things and make yourself look bad.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@KoukiR
the z1 is not better. There you go spouting things off you don't even have a clue about. The z1 and z3 use the exact same cams. The cams are the same cams from the DC5-R. But the z3 uses the RBC intake manifold which is better. Both engines are very similar to one another, neither is better than the other, because they are basically the same. Thanks for letting me know you didn't even go to school, you're just talking shit for no reason. 3 INCH EXHAUST MAKES POWER. Period.
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692 I know all about the K-series just because I don't go into detail about it doesn't mean anything. Your one of those people that can't prove anything so you just stick you what others say. And I did go to school, IDK where you would get the idea that I didn't because I have logic and say that a 3" exhaust on a NA car with just I/H isn't going to give you power. You can think w.e you want. It's your opinion and my facts.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@KoukiR
ALL YOU'VE GIVEN IS OPINIONS. You haven't provided any facts either besides bullshit about how your k20z1 dyno'd more horsepower with 2.75" exhaust. Look at the updated description for a link to a guy that compared 3" to 70mm
Seriously, just make ONE post on k20a.org with your 70mm > 3" statement... and prepare to be flamed for being stupid.
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692 Tell me where I can post the dyno sheets I have and I will. Lets see your and I'll show mine. I think I have a video as well if I can find it. Put your money where you mouth is.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@w00t692 I just looked at the on road pulls. First off him making 239whp means he HAS the supporting mods for a 3" exhaust i.e cams like he stated. Like I said before 3" on NA is good if you have the supporting mods. But seeing how you can't read what I say you still argue. Second those numbers aren't even corrected. And again i never said it was MY type-s which you seem to not understand but I get it...you can't read.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@KoukiR
I never said it was your actual car. I refer to it as "your k20z1" as reference, not because i think it's your car. So you think that the only reason he gained horsepower was because of the cams? The RBC is a better flowing manifold, both top end power wise and mid range wise. I have the supporting mods for 3" exhaust, i have a larger throttle body, i have a properly designed intake both length and diameter wise, i have a VERY good 4-2-1 2.5" collector header and the 3" exhaust.
w00t692 1 year ago
@KoukiR
I REALLY wish i kept these datalogs so i could screenshot for you the power gain from my 3" exhaust. When you add a modification, same day, same weather, and you check your afr's afterwards, if you have gone richer, you probably lost power in that area (same amount of fuel, less need for it) if you went leaner you will gain power (same fuel, but car needs more now) When i went from 70mm to 3" My flat as a board 12.9:1 AFR changed at 4000-5500 from 12.9:1 up to 15.3:1
w00t692 1 year ago
@KoukiR
After 4000-5500 where it spiked to 15.3:1 it settled in past that point to around 13.1:1 up from 12.9:1 meaning the car wanted more fuel past that point. The changes past 4000-5500 didn't gain much of any power, but the changes at 4000-5500 moved my peak torque downwards.
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692 I have seen so much bullshit when people come to talking about mods than they get dyno'd and they make no where near what they made and think something is wrong. A lot of people throw stuff on their car and expect it to make power. I would be the first person to say I'm wrong if I see definitive proof but that link you posted doesn't convince me. I tried searching on 8th gen but you can't unless you are a member and I don't wanna make an acc. for no reason.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@KoukiR So he posts a dyno of a 3 inch making more power and you yell at him for not proving anything and that he's just spouting off his own opinion? I'm pretty certain now you have never set foot in an educational facility because if you had, you wouldn't be so confused about what the fuck a fact is.
bolonysalad 1 year ago
@bolonysalad He just put that up he didn't have it before and this is the first time I saw it.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@IAmTheRealAsif I know Jeff knows everything and you go talk to him and ask if a car with a header and 3" exhaust is going to make more power than smaller one and tell me what he says. The guy is a genius if he says a 3" exhaust is going to make more power on a stock car compared to a smaller one that is right than I want to know why. I don't go on other peoples unknowlegdeable opinions. I go on proven facts that are done by unbiased testers, not the manufacturer, they lie to sell a product.
KoukiR 1 year ago
@w00t692 My friend had a 06 GTO-TT with a 2.75" and it was PROVEN that he made more power with it than when they tried it with a 3". The type of car has nothing to do with engine dynamics. Try drinking water out of a straw than try drinking water out of a paper towel roll. You lose back pressure and most importantly SCAVENGING. I know what I'm talking about I just don't go off hearsay off forums. Look up scavenging on wiki and read the whole thing but most importantly the second sentance
KoukiR 1 year ago
you do lose back pressure with a 3'' but it's just a myth that you actually lose hp.
LSW2216 1 year ago
@LSW2216
Yeah but the myth is that you need this back pressure. You don't. It's so annoying to hear people say it. This engine flows more air than 1 side of most V8''s do. Why wouldn't i want a 3" exhaust?
w00t692 1 year ago
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KoukiR 1 year ago
How do you like the tsx tb? Did it improve throttle responce or give you a bit more power at all? I've got a fa5 but cant decide if its worth it =/
Geebuv 1 year ago
@Geebuv
It improves throttle response immensely. Not sure of any power gains, but the throttle response was fucking instantaneous.
w00t692 1 year ago
@w00t692 Is it like with flashpro? Cuz i know in the main calibration screen under "Throttle" the tb is dampened from stock, after I unchecked that box it was a whole different ball game in 1st lol.
Geebuv 1 year ago
@Geebuv
Honestly after disabling throttle dampening in 1st gear, i didn't even tell a difference. That's what the tsx tb did i believe.
w00t692 1 year ago
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toofly4ny 1 year ago
w00t692 niiccee...i noticed in your other vid you have the skunk2 header if you dont mind me asking which one did you like more and why did you switch from the ssr rep to the s2, ive been looking for ssr rep myself and are u on 8th...alrite bro thanks
toofly4ny 1 year ago
that si is quick nice, TOTAL FAIL on the s2k side, learn how to launch
jus my 2 cents.
goboostorgohome1 1 year ago
@goboostorgohome1
No point in doing a rolling launch at 25 mph in 1st gear man.
w00t692 1 year ago
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goboostorgohome1 1 year ago
Wonder how it would b like if he was tune???? Might b a good run if he get a tune.....
PobtxhaXyooj 1 year ago
nice run was the s2 tuned at all?
PobtxhaXyooj 1 year ago