Djent tutorial - How to dial in a djent-type tone

[gianniswildchild]

Is this the UX1?Do i need the metal shop for this sound?

[Thrashman1990]

@gianniswildchild This is through a GuitarPort. You need no addons whatsoever for this one. If I did have the MetalShop pack, I'd have used the BigBottom model.

[oobinkey]

what did you use for a cab?

[Thrashman1990]

@oobinkey the rectifier cab with an off axis sm57

[Martyfriedman001]

If you guys want to hear the sound of Line 6 podfarm check my 2 song on my channel i used it for them:)

[rillafilla18]

what did you use to get the drum track? pre-recorded, or did you mic a kit yourself?

[GameKid98]

I think Pod Farm sounds awfully dry in the mix..

[ReyCarmesi97]

did you buy line6 pod farm or just downloaded the program? i downloaded it, so i havent the USB recording interface (the black thing) . so, guitar goes plugged right directly to the mic plug in ? please help me bro

[Thrashman1990]

@ReyCarmesi97 You need a line6 device for this to work, I would think. GuitarPorts are really cheap to buy used and that's what I am using. It does what I want it to perfectly well.

[InthelineofdutyMN]

@Thrashman1990 would a presonus audiobox work or does it have to be a line 6 product?

[Thrashman1990]

@InthelineofdutyMN It needs to be a line6 product I would think.

Though, if you have the presonus there is a lot of other softwares you can use for the same results!

[CrikeyTomatoes]

Everything sounds digital now. Fuck. FUCK. Really accurate tho...just lacks personality imo

[neo69hk]

what guitar string and pick ups did you use ?

thank you

[demonj00]

Too much compression on the mix with drums but tone works incredibly well.

[LoganCovers91]

Sup, I made a neat song tweaking this tone, check it watch?v=373ziAWcDvY

[XXxESPxXX]

theres hardly any actual djent lol

[Thrashman1990]

@XXxESPxXX This is true, hence "Djent-TYPE tone". Referring to the tone rather than the technique.

Check out my new tutorial for more accurate tweaking and playing!

[Deathz0r94]

@XXxESPxXX You know what Djent is, right?

[XXxESPxXX]

@Deathz0r94 I know very well what djent is. Lots of people think djent is a genre but it really isnt...

[Deathz0r94]

@XXxESPxXX No. It isn't a genre, but a SOUND. Four note power chord. Bb for example.

[ozanniof]

what kind of recording software do you use ?

[o0ShadowsfeaR0o]

Djent is probably the most brutal sound in the history of existence next to the breakdown.

[ParaDeMamarxD]

@o0ShadowsfeaR0o agree, but ¿slamm death beatdown? :D

[midwaybass]

what cabinet and microphone you use?

[Thrashman1990]

@midwaybass Treadplate cab - off axis 57 mic!

[Jorbazz]

Is it possible to open this preset in hd500?

[Thrashman1990]

@Jorbazz I would think so, yes!

[Jorbazz]

@Thrashman1990 Could you save the preset and put in the description? :) or send it to me on inbox?

[XXxESPxXX]

@Jorbazz its not

[CrazyItalian7469]

question. do you need the metal shop to do this, or any downloadable package? I really want a good tone but i dont feel like spending fifty bucks for the metal shop.

[Thrashman1990]

@CrazyItalian7469 No, you don't! This is the standard version with no upgrades. Check out my new djent tutorial for better tone, but still free!

[TheGamermaze]

awesome! what version of podfarm do you need 2.5 or platinum?

and will it actually sound like the end?

[Thrashman1990]

@TheGamermaze This is the basic PodFarm version - no upgrades!

Yes, that is the sound I am using in the full mix test.

[Bitchcake]

This is sick! I can't read the gains and freqs on the 4 band EQ though, can you list them?

[Sky9321]

Is this the exact tone your using in the mix? It doesn't sound like it, but it sound sick as hell. Im definetly gonna have to get this and reaper in the near future.

Are those drum tracks created in reaper?

[Thrashman1990]

@Sky9321 Yes, it is the same tone that is shown in the settings! The only difference would be my style of playing in the full mix setting where I play more aggressively.

Yes, they are created in Reaper aswell!

[Sky9321]

@Thrashman1990 Alright, are u using the line 6 interface too? And what guitar do you have, this is like the exact sound I've wanted for a LONG time lol.

[Thrashman1990]

@Sky9321 Using a GuitarPort from Line6 through PODfarm. The guitar I'm using there is a Fender Telecaster with a BareKnuckle "Piledriver" single coil pickup!

[Sky9321]

@Thrashman1990 What? I always thought single coils were peices of shit.

I just downloaded an evaluation copy of reaper, is there anywhere I can go to learn how to create drum tracks on here? (I'm a 100% recording noob)

But I've played music for about 5 years now, and always wanted to learn it.

[Thrashman1990]

@Sky9321 Oh, you are wrong! When single coils are done right they can be SMOKING! This pickup is more aggressive than any humbucker i've tried out there really.

You need a drum program to create drums in Reaper(Just like any other program) which could be anything from "EZ Drummer" to "Superior Drummer" to "Addictive Drummer". Look them up with google and you'll find lots and lots of tips on where to get them and how to use them!

[Sky9321]

@Thrashman1990

I got the addictive drummer demo, and I can not for the life of me figure out how to load the VST into the software at all. ._.

[Thrashman1990]

@Sky9321 To load addictive drummer into your recording DAW(Software) you need to take the addictive drum ".dll"-file and put it in the "effects" folder for that software. For reaper, it is located here: "C:/ > Programs > Reaper > Plugins > FX"

[Sky9321]

@Thrashman1990 Thank you so much. You've been a lot of help, I've been making drum tracks and just playing for like an hour. Just gotta get the full versions soon :]

[Corpzmaker91]

I feel an urge to listen to Meshuggah, and to buy an Ux 1 and a new awesome guitar :)

[MATYRKER]

I tried this and it didn't sound anything like this

[Thrashman1990]

@MATYRKER That is because we do not have the same guitar, the same strings, the same pickups or the same hands. ;-)

[ivansandoval777]

I know, but Id like to have the file, not to copy it manually ;)

[ivansandoval777]

Would you mind sharing the preset?

[Thrashman1990]

@ivansandoval777 The preset is right in front of you.

[iriwan]

Why is Katy Perry in the suggested videos..

[TheGrottodevil]

cephus pickups are generic crap

[smoof7returns]

what do you use to mix?

[Thrashman1990]

@smoof7returns I record and mix/master everything in Reaper.

[smoof7returns]

@Thrashman1990 dude....do some tutorials. that mix at the end sounded brilliant

[raypepeeves]

Wow, horrible.

[claytonmorell]

alot of people on different websites say it didnt even work when they tried to use it with their computer and that it sucks in general. do you have problems with it?

[zeeLibertiner]

that is sick :)

[Surcrit]

Omg god i love that tone, cant wait for christmas.

I know im getting an UX, and i've saved money for an 7-string for a long time now :D

[Eyngii]

what are you using for the drums?

[TheBANDEMIC]

are you using a line 6 ux etc.... idk if i should get line 6 or something else.... help anyone =]

[AceXVI]

it would seem the d/l link for the patch is down. mind reupping? =D

[AkilChinnyChin]

That song at the end...

[troyaboy]

Hey @Thrashman1990 Did you use the Guitarport in the final mix or only for the explanation portion?

[ripbaloff]

what guitar and pickups? I have cepheus passives and i cant get response out of them in the mix like your tone does

[Thrashman1990]

@ripbaloff Fender telecaster with a Bareknuckle Piledriver single coil telecaster bridge pickup.

The key is to have an aggressive right hand, it really does make the difference between good and bad results.

[ripbaloff]

@Thrashman1990 damn dude.

baffled by how much difference that makes

thanks a bunch

[TehBass1st]

could you please upload a preset to somewhere? im really considering getting a UX1 that comes with pod farm, but probably not till christmas. if i could get this sound, i'd be more than happy compared to what im getting now

[Thrashman1990]

@TehBass1st Here is a link: dl.dropbox.com/u/1242892/l6tre­adjent.l6t

[OphidianIOfficial]

@Thrashman1990 The link doesn't work

[jarhead4214]

@OphidianIOfficial Yes, but the video does. The link is for the tab. Read it. In big letters.... "LINK TO TAB"

[claytonmorell]

Are you using the Platinum version? Do you recommend it?

[Thrashman1990]

@claytonmorell I am only using the standard version that comes with the GuitarPort, even though I recommend any upgrade strongly!

[claytonmorell]

@Thrashman1990 Thankyou!

[TheFrontAgency]

@Thrashman1990 I've been craving for metal and bass pack upgrades but at the sime time i'm fucking content I can dial after 2-3ish years and bass, well i now reamp through a real amp but mostly I love that i could dial in good guitar tones with standard PF EXCEPT for Djent. And this sounds fucking nice so thanks man!

[imperfection32]

dude when i heard the final mix it sounded so tits i just couldnt help but smile

[TerminateTheHippies]

Man this is so frustrating, I've been trying so hard to get such a tone but the sound I get is always so "backgroundish" once recorded. I use a pod X3 and all the patches I came up with sound good when I listen to them, but the sound seems to fade away somehow when I record.

Do you record via USB ? At what bit rate (16, 24?) and in which sample rate ?

Do you quadtrack or dualtrack ?

It just amazes me how the sound is so present in your song !

Any help will be much appreciated ! :p

Cheers !

[Thrashman1990]

@TerminateTheHippies The thing to remember when recording is to back off the gain a bit, it add's more bite and presence with PODs, and don't be afraid to add more mids. I always try to use as much mids as I possibly can without turning honky or nasal which also helps alot.

I record directly via USB at 16bit, sample rate is 512 i think? Whatever works best.

Quadtracking mostly, this clip is Dual-tracked though(I think.. don't take my word for it)

Hope this helps a little bit, cheers!

[Sweetmanridez]

@thrashman1990

what did you use for your drums!? they sound pretty sick. superior drummer?

[Thrashman1990]

@Sweetmanridez Correct! Superior Drummer 2.0

[caracterav]

good tone!

[Afurthyclays]

Beautifully brutal!

Great job.

[mamabonthere]

should i get a tubescreamer? or a MAXON od 808? im using a LTD ec 1000 deluxe.is a tubescreamer or maxon od 808 pedal needed to create such a beefy tone?

[Kudeghraw]

Bad ass man. I might have to rip you off a bit. I've been f*cking with this toneport for a year now and can't get anything close to that even dual tracking pan left, pan right, and center (6 tracks) for each riff into my DAW. Beefy.

[Infor12]

mine, with those exact settings sounds a total shit... I have a kh-202 with EMG 81 running through UX1.

Do you have any extra library for your toneport?

[gablandim]

I finnaly found my djent tone with this tips in Amplitube 3! Thank you so much!

[dropkickproductiontx]

Oh my god that song at the end was beautiful

[ACLeftyGuitar]

make a song!

[12andres24]

Sweet tone! what pickups you using?

[Thrashman1990]

@12andres24 I'm using a BareKnuckle Pickups Piledriver single coil telecaster pickup!

[ashleyhoward14]

is this guitar straight into pc? or a pedal/amp inbetween?

[Thrashman1990]

@ashleyhoward14 Guitar straight into a Line6 GuitarPort device that is connected to the computer!

[SweetAmericanMustard]

Mad good tone, what tuning though?

[Thrashman1990]

@SweetAmericanMustard I am in D standard with the lowest string dropped down two whole steps

From high to low: D-A-F-C-G-A#

[SweetAmericanMustard]

@Thrashman1990 Awesome, I'm in Drop A# so should sound cool as well :)

[metalmik3]

Nice tone man ;) Could you share the patch? :)

Thanks in advance.

[BoundByOrigins]

could you post this tone on the line 6 Custom tone part? i would really like to download it because i only have pod farm one so i only have somuch to work with.

[Thrashman1990]

@BoundByOrigins This is using the most basic POD farm, so you can replicate this tone in either POD farm program and/or GearBox if you'd like!

- Chris

[ravieliom]

what tune are you in? :)

[Thrashman1990]

@ravieliom I am in D standard with the lowest string dropped down two whole steps

From high to low: D-A-F-C-G-A#

[underneaththesilence]

U got a band? U sld finish up this song, I'd put some vocals in it haha.

[DoomsdayPaul]

what drum machine did you use?

[Thrashman1990]

@DoomsdayPaul Superior 2.0

[RX120D]

The missing bass frequencies are filled out by the actual Bass guitar in the mix. That's why it sounds so thick.

[guitarshop40]

HOLY F

[FeroxX]

who who waitt... what did you use in the mix, cuz thats sounds huge, the preview of the guitar tone not that much

[Thrashman1990]

@FeroxX The guitar tone that is "previewed" is exactly the same as the one in the mix.

[neo69hk]

Will you do a tutorial to talk about mixing metal guitar ??

it must be awesome

[Thrashman1990]

@neo69hk I'll look into it some day, I'm rebuilding my guitar and have plans for a new tutorial video on djent. /Chris

[MarioBearz]

i was like ok that is a cool tone... then the mix and oh shit tight! hah.

sick tutorial.

[DirtyPoopers]

damn this was helpful, and my mind was instantly blown violently out my ass right around 0:57

[ottawadrummer]

Sounds pretty good for your playing style. Personally I prefer a bit more fuzz/sustain and more low end.

[HarrisonVokills]

cutting that much high end out of my guitars kills the mix - no life, yours sounds pretty good though.

[takeaimnfire]

@HarrisonVokills Yea he cut a lot, but did you notice the presence was cranked to max?

[guitarblade1891]

Hey man could I bother you for the exact numbers on the eq? My phone doesnt have a big enough screen and I have no computer

[Mo7Vsta]

what guitar did you use? well i guess did you use emgs?

[Thrashman1990]

@Mo7Vsta Actually - I used a Telecaster with a BareKnuckle Pickups 'Piledriver' bridge pickup!

[Mo7Vsta]

@Thrashman1990 damn that goes freakin hard for a tele! would have never guessed!

[GameKid98]

@Thrashman1990 WOOOAH? You mean like a TELECASTER? with A SINGLE COIL!?!?

Holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Thrashman1990]

@GameKid98 Exactly!

[shockandawe123]

@Thrashman1990 Hey man, I am in the process of choosing the correct gear for "Djent" so can you give me more info about this "Line 6 PodFarm" thingy because hearing the tone that it creates, dammnnn i must have it.

[FakeAndGay666]

Sick sound, awesome track!! I need a guitarist with that sound.

[ElPopularVale]

the final break was cool, nice triplet!

[thumb73]

Really, really cool tone and riffing!!!

[guitarshop40]

holy that is brutal. my god!

[Maxze]

You forgot to mention What cab/mic you are using!!111

[Thrashman1990]

@Maxze If you watch closely, I stated that I'm using the treadplate cab with an off-axis sm57, with room at 0%!

Chris.

[Maxze]

@Thrashman1990 Ah soz, my problem!!

i used this setup but switched the cab to a Vintage 75 brit celest with 25% room and a SM 57 off axis, sounds marvelous thanks for the settings! :)

[meiman9000]

what's the song?

[Thrashman1990]

@meiman9000 It's an original song made by me.

[meiman9000]

@Thrashman1990

awesome!

[meiman9000]

do you use Ezdrummer?

[Hagstrom4ever]

Hi..I had a Vetta II hd and now I'm using a Dual Rectifier but it's the first time that I use POD farm..could you give me an advice about the connection (what I need..I have a audio interface)..I need something else? why Big bottom sounds such a overdrive pedal and not like the beast I knew with Vetta?

[Thrashman1990]

@Hagstrom4ever You need a Line6 audio device that connects to your computer via USB for PODfarm to work.

I think you are unsatisfied with the BigBottom in PODfarm(or in a POD) because there is a big difference in playing with a "real" amp at high volumes like the vetta, and then use the BigBottom with the same settings at lower volumes through a POD(in headphones, for example). This due to a few reasons, but let's jus say that I suggest that you tweak with the settings in PODfarm! Cheers.

[SkYjAcKeR666]

Nice one man, EQ is the killer :) thank you much. Post some presets man it's awesome sounding.

[Downbeat1984]

Daddy like

[nightspotlight]

you forgot to mention the tuning of your guitar

[Thrashman1990]

@nightspotlight The tuning is not very relevant. Not at all, rather.

[tRiBanAAX]

thanks! 

[TheCanadianFreakShow]

What did you use for the drums? Thanks.

[KevinSheth4L]

Okay...you HAVE to make a video on how to mix that tone. I got a similar tone in Guitar Rig 4, but I'm left with a decent tone, and no idea how to mix it...

[TriviumCrusader17]

Mix is pumping harder than a tin swingset with a fat fuck on it!

[Coldmystery]

The end clip at the end didn't sound like anything except progressive metal. Djent may be a good way to describe a sound your guitar makes but from everything I have been hearing it is a poor term to define a genre. This is LAME

[Thrashman1990]

@Coldmystery You are very much correct. But also remember that the majority refer to this type of sound as "Djent", which also includes the type of guitar tone. I myself do not think of Djent as a genre, because it isn't.

I don't think I could reach out to alot of people that did appreciate and get help via this video if I named it "Progressive metal guitar tone" - do you?

Bear in mind - progressive metal is what we all think of when we say djent.

[replica07]

I actually prefer the tone you get with the 4 band eq off. Sounds like Meshuggah in DEI.

[ConstriktoR666]

tnx!!!!!!!!! i was looking for that kind of sound

[samathanwataguan]

@SytzeKZ

Trust me, in a full mix it probably sounds much better with the EQ on than if it was off even though it sounds better off when you hear it on it's own.

[DanDood666]

@SytzeKZ But if you had the eq off you wouldnt get the Djent tone

[mattwildchild]

thanks a lot man ! i really is a great preset ! i personally prefer to unplug the EQ. thanks again !!

[decapitatedrathead]

@SytzeKZ he could have done that tone good with that EQ, but he really didnt. if he had eqed it a tiny bit better it would have sounded amazing

[nealbot82]

shit yeah!

[Thrashman1990]

@shreddernuo This is true. Also one of the tricks - less gain gives more clarity and less mush.

[mariosport]

periphery?

[SilentDownfall]

Very helpfull, thanks (:

[Mohamed636]

doesnt sound as good when i play it though :(

[Thrashman1990]

@Mohamed636 This is not unusual, my friend! I have a different guitar with different pickups. You will have to tweak it to your tastes to some extent!

[Mohamed636]

@Thrashman1990 Yeah i figured, but i dont knwo anything about tone settings. Thank for that anyways! I was thinking it was probably my speakers, which it partially is i think.

[mcterryvideo]

Thats crazy my friend, I like it!

[XenoChrist2011]

@SytzeKZ yep, but the question is which one will sound better in the mix.

[Thrashman1990]

@XenoChrist2011 I can say hands down that the sound you hear is the sound i chose. Simply because it fitted the mix better than the sound without the added GEQ.

[ACLeftyGuitar]

make that into a song please!!!!!!!

[QuantizeMusic]

@SytzeKZ True however I'd argue that the EQ makes a nicer blend when other instruments are added. Makes it more of one big sound as opposed to 2-3 different instruments separately playing different parts. Just my opinion.

[jonhchristmas1]

because i think that like the pod 2.0 you should get pod farm free with your hardware because..yaknow..fair is fair

get podfarm from piratebay and tell line6 to fuck themselves

[stuntdouble777]

Revalver djent tutorial please!

[ibaho124]

all djent is is the new "sunlight sound" deathmetal fans will know what im talking about

[empyreusmusic]

I just recently got the Pod Farm trial, and I'm getting a Line 6 interface soon. What product do you have?

[Thrashman1990]

@empyreusmusic I have a GuitarPort device!

[subhumanproduction]

is line6 treadplate from the default pack or metal shop pack?

[Thrashman1990]

@subhumanproduction The default pack.

[Thrashman1990]

@subhumanproduction The default pack.