Hmmm never heard of this fluoride stuff, but sounds yummy! It prevents cavities have you heard? They should put that stuff in toothpaste too that would be a good idea! Wow I'm so smart I thinky I'm a genius!!!
HEY PEOPLE I NEED SOME HELP, sorry for caps. i wanted to know if it was safe and effective to drink a glass of water with a pinch of BORAX laundry booster to remove fluoride from my body?
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Normally I don't use fluoridated toothpaste, but on a recent trip, I just had travel -sized tubes of paste with fluoride. After using that, my gums started to hurt. I stopped using that paste and my gums are fine again.
The first person to add Flouride to the water supply was Hitler, he did this to help to keep people calm as when you consume Flouride it reduces your body's ability to fight illness and this will keep you from feeling healthy or like doing anything beneficial or even thinking about defending yourself. Excellent video. I stopped drinking tap water some time ago and almost felt like I was super charged with energy after drinking filtered water for just one month. Drink Kombucha to cleanse.
@rainxxxx Your use of caps along with the vocabulary you use make you look like an idiot. Please step away from the keyboard and return after you become more mature. Thank you. Have a good day.
The government make billions off of alcohol and tobacco which sickens and kills millions of adults and children in the US. Then they turn around and spend hundreds of millions to ad fluoride to the water because they are CONCERNED about your teeth? How pathetically stupid can the American public be?
@AodhMacG You do realise that fluoride is only beneficial as a topical-treatment and is no way beneficial for consumption at the levels present on our water at 2-4ppm and that people's teeth in non-fluoridated countries are just as healthy than fluoridated countries? Numerous studies available to download online have shown that ingestion of fluoride at concentrations similar in water-supplies can cause thyroid- disease, osteosarcoma, kidney failure, reduced intelligence, skeletal fluorosis, etc.
Contrary to advertisements, fluoride can NOT be removed from water with ANY water filter. The fluoride molecule only has one atom more than water. Even with distillation, 80% of the fluoride (rat poison) remains in the water. So, our rivers perpetually poison our oceans, all for the profits of a few industries owned by the same psychotic monsters who brought you the private Federal Reserve Bank and the Internal Revenue that goes directly to the Crown to pay the interest on Our fake debt.
Hypothyroidism & Dental Fluorosis is only half of the story. Got Fibromyalgia? I do! "They" say "they" don't know the cause of it but when you look at the symptoms of Fluoride poisoning they are almost identical to Fibro! I stopped drinking tap water 13+ yrs. before I knew I had Fibro but I still bathe in it & wash my hands regularly! So ingesting it isn't the only problem! I have a 10yo son who has never drank tap water regularly but is now showing signs of Fibro! This poisoning must STOP!!
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Do you have a valid reference which proves that "nazis" put fluoride into concentration camp water?
And by the way, what would motivate the internees to escape from the camps, considering that German civilians on the outside were starving and being directly targeted by Britain's aerial campaign?
Fluoride is also anesthesia, meaning the government is slowly anesthetizing you through your food and water. The #1 cause of death from surgery, more than any other complication, is anesthesia. Fluoride (not sugar) is actually the #1 cause of tooth loss. Fluoride causes multiple hormonal imbalances and induces early puberty. Fluoride was used by the medical profession at one point to suppress the thyroid gland. If fluoride suppresses the thyroid, why is it being put in your drinking water?
no, it isn't. in fact, there's no evidence at all to suggest this outside of the anecdotal accounts of a former Russian soldier (Kenneth Goff, whose testimony is shaky at best).
You're also spouting things that are simply asinine.
Take for example the fact that, in countries where there is equal access to quality dental care and awareness of dental hygiene, that don't have fluoride in their water supplies (Japan), you see higher prevalence of tooth decay.
I mean, christ, your statement is so hilariously devoid of factual information I don't even know if I should bother debunking every point or simply tell you to go play with more chicken wire and tinfoil to keep the radio waves out of your brain.
They are INTENTIONALLY POISONING the food, water and prescription drugs with NERVE GAS = fluoride. HITLER and the Russian Army were the first ones to put fluoride in tap water because it makes a person unable to resist domination. There is NO BENEFIT to human consumption of fluoride. Even the smallest amount causes brain and nerve damage. Fluoride is commonly used as a pesticide, roach and rat killer, and chemical nerve gas, meaning FLUORIDE KILLS by slow accumulation in your bodies.
No wait, I think I'll just destroy your points one by one.
Fluoride is not used as a pesticide/roach or rat killer. It is contained in these compounds. To make such a stupid assessment about chemical composition and, more or less, suggest that containing fluoride or fluorine is the same as being fluoride not only shows you are absolutely inept.
But by your logic, herp derp, water is the same as tosylic acid because they both contain hydrogen.
The other hilarious thing is the reductio ad hitlerum/godwins law shit. OMG Hitler?! No way!!!!
Who gives a fuck? Hitler also breathed air. I guess we should all hold our breath so we can avoid being like that fascist asshole. Or maybe, we could stop with the insanely stupid appeal to fear fallacy and concentrate on the facts.
No human benefit you say? Well, several hundred longitudinal, peer-reviewed studies in toxicology, molecular biology, environmental science and medical journals shows that, while the claims of fluoride preventing tooth decay are overstated, it does have a demonstrable effect at delaying the onset of tooth decay.
Oh, and that bit about it causing nerve damage? Patently, one hundred percent false. Exposure at standard MTLs over extended periods of time is perfectly safe.
But I suppose the simplest way to debunk your claims is by simple logic, which I doubt you'll be able to grasp.
Assuming that, if fluoride were in fact detrimental to health as you say it is, then the only logical outcome would be an increase in the prevalence of nerve disorders, cancers and other ill health effects in areas that have fluoridation vs those that do not.
Guess what - we don't see this, at all...anywhere. There is no statistical evidence to suggest your claims.
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It is something we cannot chose not to use, for it is placed in our water for many, who are unaware of its dangers or it's effects, that are forced upon us. It is in water recommended as safe for babies, to mix there powdered baby formula, given to the poorer families, via the wic program. And a question is, if most do not drink tap water, how is it cost effective to add into the water by mandate, given all the health concerns being raised by its statistics, and of its minimum benefit therein?
People need to know this. I have been telling them for years. But they still buy the Tooth paste that has it in it. Keep spreading the word. Doug in Calif...
@kubush Caries root cause is diet & ineffective dental hygiene, mostly excessive consumption of refined sugar. So this begs the question of why a growing number of people who like myself take responsibility for their health, should be subjected to the forced mass medication of governments, isn't it enough to let people decide if they wish to ingest fluoride via other means e.g. tooth paste. So again how can u accept a governments forced mass medication without ur consent? Time to vote again!!
@veganath I watched my mom brush and floss every day. She died at 80 with no molars left. My siblings have spent over $30,000 on dental work in spite of their own flossing and good practices. Not enough is made of genetics. It's not JUST dental practices.
@veganath I watched my mom brush and floss every day. She died at 80 with no molars left. My siblings have spent over $30,000 on dental work in spite of their own flossing and good practices. Not enough is made of genetics. It's not JUST dental practices.
@kubush Forced mass medication is unethical, & flies in the face of civil liberties.
Governments have NO BUSINESS adding substances to drinking water intended as prophylactics against illness not caused by drinking water. Caries is not the manifestation of fluoride deficiency, but is the result of a generally false nutrition and inefficient dental hygiene.
@kubush yes I found a few, pretty busy with my assignments atm, so I will get back to you in a week or so when I have some spare time to look through them again. Sorry I think a true scientist should be cynical. Because corporations, industry/ the people who control information are motivated soley by profit/etc which really is self interest I should think. Sometimes to find truth you need to be aware of the motivators behind everything, the inherent greed in humanity,
@kubush sorry I wasnt aware that elements appeared naturally but rather in compounds, and yes flouride is an element, but the chemicals that are placed in our water are compounds produced as by products from industry, producing aluminium from bauxite etc, and by products from fertiliser industry. The people do not have a choice, so its forced, we might vote for our members of parliament or congress in your case, but once every 4 years and we certainly can not decide the outcome of bills/acts.
I don't know if it's just me but this robotic voice makes the information provided difficult to process. At least I think it's the voice or maybe the flouride I drink. I don't know.
CDC, National Academy of Sciences, National Institute of Dental and Craniofacial Research, Academy of Dentistry International, World Health Organization, and several other national dental and health organizations.
@kubush would have been easier to do that in the beginning lol. Yeah Ive read a few articles now, my understanding is that the jury is still out, I guess we need to wait another 20years before a substantial amount of population that has been flouridated to see if the negative claims are true. I think the jury is out on the benefits to, studies have shown both sides. Studies have also shown that its prob safe but should also have silicon added to ensure its 100% safe for concumption
@binomialbeard Water fluoridation has been occurring in the U.S. for 50 years. I think that should be enough time. No, the jury is not out on the safety or the benefits of fluoridation. There is no debate about this in the scientific community. Just check out all the references I posted.
@kubush there is no conclusive evidence in my mind. I would like to see a conclusive study where diet ie amount of processed sugar etc is taken into account. Comparisons between Western Europe and England etc etc etc. I did find studies that showed mixed results. And people using the same experiment to draw different conclusions both good and bad, the jury is out.
@kubush The idea of being a scientist is to be cynical, skeptical etc and not to believe before you have proof, to continually improve your ideas to come to the correct conclusion. For me there is not 100% proof on this matter. So I will continue to eat healthly, no processed sugar, reverse ozmosis water, to exercise my mind and body and have healthy teeth like I do, no fillings decay etc. As I said maybe the gov should promote my lifestyle instead of feeding us chemical waste from industry.
@kubush, but like ive said which I found in some articles there is plenty of it in our food etc, so force medication in the water supply is maybe still to be decided. To much can be a problem and we will only know this in 20-30 years once a significant population who has been force medicated knows, maybe people are getting to much only time will tell. I drink water without flouride, my teeth are healty, I have barely any decay and never any fillings.
@binomialbeard It is in our foods BECAUSE of water fluoridation. That water is used to irrigate our crops which they absorb. It is not "forced medication".
@kubush am der thats what I said mate, and yeah the jury is out. Plus I have trouble beleiving anything that comes from the United States as I know that funds pushed in the right direction can alter any study to acheive the right results :) . Giving people medicine that they didnt chose to have is forced medication. Considering people need water to survive its a good place to start one would think. I found plenty of studies now from britain, Europe etc that show mixed results. The jury is out
@kubush our western society is crooked, it promotes bad unhealthy lifestyles, bad food full of chemicals, high processed sugar diets, etc etc etc. Then how does the American scientist propose to fix everything? with more chemicals produced in factories, pump cows with more monsanto BGH etc etc. As a scientist which I guess you believe that you are, should you not be researching ways for people to live healthly with out adding dangerous chemicals to our water supply??
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@kubush its a by product of industry, prob cheaper for corps to dump in water supply than in rivers & have law suits filed later, This way when the troubles arrise in 30years they can do a Hardys etc and pull a scheme to pay bugger all to anyone who got fckd up. Cheers for your reply though I appreciate it. But I feel people should have a choice, maybe the Western Govs should focus advertising on eating healthy food &cleaning your teeth rather than unhealthy lifestyles the TV always promotes :)
@kubush maybe all the sugar that they market to children causes tooth decay, did the childeren in these areas that suffer less decay eat less lollies than ones in other areas, I think fixing the crap that children eat, getting them to exercise is prob more important and will solve most of our future health problems :)
@kubush can you please show everyone here the "apparent proof" that you have, and yes you called me a moron and a fool so that places you in the uneducated section, I am simply asking for your proof the whole time that you mention you have discovered. WHEN YOU SHOW EVERYONE THE PROOF THAT YOU HAVE THEN I GUESS WE CAN CLOSE THIS ARGUMENT, thats all im interested in your proof that you have, once I see the proof I will probably change my mind and start drinking tap water again. please show proof
@kubush What’s your education level mate?\ What have you studied or learnt about in your life? Can you explain your "apparent" reasoning in your answer, or do you just look for people to criticise because you don’t have the mental capacity to answer a simple question, or to understand anything beyond the propoganda that is shown to your on your biased media. Can you show everyone this "proof" you speak of so frequently here. Probably not, I expect you will reply with another derogatory comment
@binomialbeard Sorry I am not going to respect anyone that constantly strawmans me. You need to go get educated, learn some critical thinking, and do some actual research other than youtube and anti-fluoride sites.
@kubush well you are derogatory and obvioulsy quite arrogant. you are asked a simple question to tell us all here where you have found this "apparent proof" you have mentioned. You have written that is has been proven? All I asked was that you show everyone here who wants to know the proof. Yes I am educated, in doing a masters degree in statistics, so I know how all these studies work and how easy it is to manipulate numbers to suit any agenda. Perhaps you do not understand scientific concepts
@kubush I have actually been onto this before youtube existed, no I havent been to any anti-flouride sites. I searched my university data base which contains practically every academic/scientific paper thats ever been published in the world by western scientists at western institutions, I couldn't find any scientific studies which represented your claims. Instead of being rude, could you please tell all the waiting people here about your "apparent proof" instead of labelling me a fool & a moron
@kubush If you are able to comprehend sarcasm, you would be able to infer with your great critical thinking mind that you have, when I gave you a "strawman" answer about believing the propoganda on the television, you should have been able to read between the lines at what I was trying to tell you. But as you have shown everyone here, you are only capable of criticism, derogatory and ignorant comments. Educated people don't put others down, but try to help to enlighten others to their wisdom.
@kubush nah not pretending to be educated, I understand the assumptions that would be made when doing a study like that, especially when its most likely funded by industry or the goverment. I drink reverse ozmosis water my whole life, I have never had any fillings, my dentist says my teeth are in perfect health, so I know I dont need to drink poison to stay healthy.
As I say your reasoning "apparently" where did you see this "apparent" truth, the television?? I forgot the TV never lies :(
@kubush That is an absolute and blatent lie. It is NOT proven safe and it does NOT save us a cent on health costs, rather it costs us more. Follow the science on this one, not CNN.
@xxTimelessxx I agree with you, this Kubush person is obviously ine who believes everything the media tells them, or works for the media, I have asked for the proof that Kubush mentions, making the claims it's not dangerous, its not poison, its safe. But no mention of where to find this information that is known to Kubush, only derogatory comments. Im interested in all facts, so would like to here where I can find out this information other than mass media outlets
@binomialbeard The substance is certainly in question, and the fact that he cannot admit that tells us that his motives are certainly not truth or the well being of others. But it is not the effects that truly ripens the situation, it is the lack of concent by the public. Yes it was voted in in most places, but this is not something that should be left to democracy. A questionable substance being forced upon others can only be unanimous, so our only choice is to remove it entirely
@xxTimelessxx yeah prob works for the same industry that sponsors fake scientific research, I have asked for his "proof" many times now but he wont give it up, but only responds with negative answers, I would love to hear proof that it is good, then I will start to drink tap water again
Our family has used 0 flouride our entire lives and have no cavities (we are on well water). It is true that natural flouride (not the type used in water/toothpaste) can be found in the groundwater. The type put into water/toothpaste is a poisonous industry waste material. If you don't believe toothpaste is a poison, read the warning on the side of your flouridated water: "If you swallow more than a pea sized amount, call the poison control center immediately".Kubush: who do you work for?
@kmhutter I WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT AND THE ELITE SECRET SOCIETY OF BANKERS THAT CONSPIRE TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE POPULATION! LOL.
No, seriously. Fluoride in moderate amounts is very safe. The amount in toothpaste far exceeds the amount in the water and it can be unsafe for infants and small children if too much is ingested. Anything in excess can be unsafe. That is an irrational excuse to ban it.
@kmhutter I agree that Kubush seems to have either a hidden agenda, or an enormous ego. Regardless of the effects, even he cannot deny the immorality of force feeding such a controversial substance to the public. If they want fluoride, they can get plenty with bottled water, fluoridated toothpaste or any black teas. If the government wants to help us, and redeem some public image, take the poison out of our water, and put some vitamins in it; We lack them with Monsanto running the food industry.
@xxTimelessxx "a controversial substance" There is no controversy about its efficacy and safety in the scientific community. This "controversy" in the public square is driven by ignorance.
@kubush yeah it prob does reduce tooth decay, but if you brush your teeth and eat enough calcium what would be the problem??? So the question again, why does the government in my country Australia 2, feel they have the need to put rat poison in our water?? The nazi used it as a mindsupression tool, and we know where they got a fair chunk of their Eugenics ideas from the good old U.S of corrupt A. Please explain why we need harmful rat poison in our water supply,?
@binomialbeard Dental researchers have shown that just introducing fluoride into a (previously unfluoridated) city's drinking water supply can reduce its inhabitants' rate of tooth decay between 40 and 70 percent.
Apparently just brushing your teeth isn't enough. It is not rat poison. At least not in the amounts that are in our water and toothpaste. The moderate amount in our water has been proven safe and very effective in fighting tooth decay.
@kubush yeah i like your reasoning "apparently", and yes it is rat poison, and how have they shown that??? mate you obvioulsly know nothing of statistics or science as you wouldnt make that comment, im going my masters in statistics, I know how easy it is to make any representation that you desire, and how easily one can misinterpret numbers which dont mean anything to suit whatever agenda they desire. Proven safe, can you please show me this "proof" as you call it??oh yes the TV said so, sorry
@kubush Well I guess we can call the Harvard scientists who conducted this study gullible, ignorant and uneducated by your logic. I've provided multiple links and solidity on my arguement, yet all we have from you is a sad attempt at hole filling with faulty logic. I think its time for you to drop your ego and stubborness on the issue and look at the true facts, for you are only making an already harsh matter even worse. Peace and love friend.
@xxTimelessxx gahhh cant post a link so just google effects of fluoride and it will be your first link that comes up that will bring you to the Harvard study completed on the issue. Also, that is only one of so many studies on the negative effects of water fluoridation, and yet all I'm hearing from dentists is that it is only really effective through topical application. If you've found information stating otherwise, I'd certainly love to see it
@kubush Dont let your yawning put others to sleep. You preach all the things many of us would like to hear, but that is just not reality. You have obviously done very little to no research beyond your television and now you are trying to pull your wool over the eyes of others. Spreading truth is not about telling others what is wrong in your mind due to a blatent lack of dedication to finding such answers, but rather leading them to find the truth with their own filters. Go find some answers.
@tommyk77 Do your research on both sides of the subject, friend. All you need to do to access a mass amount of information on the negative effects and the lack of positives with fluoride is to type "effects of fluoride" into Google. First one that comes up is a Harvard medical study that claims the same things as this video. Very hard to avoid in the city for 80% of bottled water is also now fluoridated. Do not act as an example for a topic you know nothing about.
@xxTimelessxx Still sounds controversial. I'm always skeptical of these claims. I tend to treat them the same as the 9/11 conspiracy theory, Illuminati claims etc.
@tommyk77 You are right to filter all information that you come across, but the evidence is more clear on the fluoride issue than any other, while posing a serious and iminent threat to us all. Also, do a little more research into the 9/11 thing... its beyond suspicious. A great vid for that is "A blueprint for truth"
@xxTimelessxx Then why can I not find anything beyond the occassional dental fluorosis case? The rest is just anecdotes or You Tube robots.
You think 9/11 was a set up? Oh well. I just find it massively implausible and the evidence is (yes, a little funny) but insufficient to show a conspiracy
@tommyk77 I dont see how you're having trouble finding the fluoride info... but just google "effects of fluoride" and click the first link. It will bring you to a study conducted by Harvard scientists on the issue, and will explain much more than dental fluorosis. As for the 9/11 issue, you must not have watched the video I recommended. Problem-Action-Solution is what the government is known for. How many rights have we lost since then? and how many casualties came about? Worth a look.
@xxTimelessxx The first page is almost entirely scaremongering sites. The actual science, as kubush points out, is not what the anti-fluoride sites say.
How many rights have we lost? Well, not any really. America is drunk on rights, if you ask me.
@tommyk77 Scaremongering? really? Its a science we need to pay attention to. Such as when lead was put in our gasoline and asbestos in our walls, sometimes we jump the gun. It is ignorant people like you who close the minds of others to the warning signs placed before us due to their own fear of being wrong. Wake up and start weighing the extremely minor and exaggerated benefits with the overwhelming scientific evidence that it is harming us. Start brushing your teeth, its worth the clean water
@tommyk77 And the fact that the U.S. used 9/11 as a platform to send our soldiers to an endless war and ravage so many other countries in the name of patriotism is testament enough to their opportunism. Airport security has been raised immensly at the cost of our tax money, when we blew up our own damn towers. look at the facts and tell me how tower 7, the CIA building, fell like a stack of pancakes from some corner damage. Youre not shedding light on issues, you're tucking them into the shadows
@xxTimelessxx Oh, not another 9/11 twoofer. Puleaze. Tower 7 had a gaping hole in it due to debris and the firemen on the ground witnessed first hand the structural damage and they knew it was coming down, that is why they pulled out. The pentagon did not fall like a pancake at all.
@tommyk77 I must apologize for allowing this arguement to reach such levels without even going into the main issue of it all. Negative or positive effects put aside, do you not think it should be the individual decision of the person on whether or not they should have to drink a medicinal product? Majority rule or not, this is a drug. There are obviously mixed oppinions on it by many, and yet all of us must drink it. For those who truly want this in there water, there is fluoridated bottles
@tommyk77 but for those trying to avoid it due to pregnancies or making baby formula, or even those "whack jobs" who think its bad for them, it is a daunting task. This is backwards and needs to be addressed, for forced medication is illegal and immoral. I thank you for pushing me to find even more information on the subject and for being a great test to my patience on the issue. This was an enlightening conversation and I appreciate your engagement in it.
@xxTimelessxx Let me first say that I've liked your politeness. However, the term 'medicinal' is slippery. All water contains impurities, which could be classed as medicinal, but that is why we have tests to find out the dangerous levels of such substances.
Forced medication (flu vaccines spring to mind) does impinge on the rights of those against it, but it also impinges on the rights of the more susceptible who would want others to not be a risk to them.
@kubush the science provided by miskolzci is much more advanced than the bullshit assumptions that the IPCC make in there models e.g the atmosphere is infinitely large, negative feedbacks are irrelevant etc. all they spend there time doing is trying to fit there data into the most scary looking graphs to decieve people. compare there initial graphs with the medieval warm period to there more recent graphs. you'll see the "grey area" which hides the truth about the temps back then
@kubush well actually.. the science that says that man is causing the earth to warm up is so far from certainty its not even funny.. if you spent the time looking into the actual science rather than some bs graphs shown by al gore. and by the way his CO2 versus Temperature graphs are quite misleading.. look closely and you'll see that CO2 increase lags temperature by up to 800 years...the temp drives CO2 not the other way around. you should look into those papers i linked you..
@kubush in the largely funded ipcc etc. are absolute rubbish.. assuming the atmosphere is infinite with no boundary conditions, assuming the relative humidity is constant, are all massive assumptions that yield there hockey stick graphs absolutely rubbish.. have a look through these journals and read up on Dr. Ferenc Miscolzi.. heres a link of most of his papers and a summary miskolczi(dot)webs(dot)com ..
@kubush umm... well actually it is.. sodium fluoride is one of the most toxic non-radioactive substances known to man.. you know what rat trap is? .. its a poison thats used to kill vermon.. active ingredient? sodium fluoride.. do some research before you post ridiculous replies
@goedtg Population control? LOL. Really? Please show me the charts that show how our population has declined over the mass poisoning of the people over decades. This video has a ton of lies and you bought into every one of them.
@kubush, for starters, watch the video on YouTube called "The Fluoride Deception". Then, you'll see how ignorant you are about fluoride.
Then, start utilizing the alternative media (like InfoWars.com), instead of simply relying on the corporate controlled mainstream media. The fact is that there are a small group of very evil, power-hungry people in this world, and they've been steering planetary affairs for centuries to further their sinister multi-generational agendas.
@kubush i just wanted to say.. i looked at your channel and i see you are very much a scientific person.. but what you don't realise is that everything that you think is scientific is not necessarily good science.. when there is money behind something, it does not take much effort for false science to be published and in turn millions of dollars made.. i see you are also very certain that climate change is caused by man.. but if you look at the science.. the assumptions made in the
@kubush I believe they were speaking of the control of the population and not the number of us. We are docile and blindly walking down the path of materialism without a second thought to anything deeper. Want to see a worthwhile chart? google "water fluoridation vs. tooth decay" under images and you'll see there are no positive effects whatsoever. Do your research before calling someone a fool, or you'll be the one laughed at.
People who thumbed this down are idiots! DO the research people! Our own government is poisoning us. Look into WHY they are doing it. Google search it.
so you think this some sort of cool marketing? this video is a major fucking loser. i suppose you believe it to be artistic. it is a major loser. sincerity is the correct marketing approach, stop being a fucking loser daveyjonesrockit. this is not artistic. stop being a fucking loser.
@RacingRoy I understand your problem with crest and other mainstream toothpastes. There is alternatives like Nature's Gate that works much better than kidpaste. That is made to have very weak chemicals and will not do you good for very long.
Really, people. You aren't even making this a challenge.
Before dumping some insipid, idiotic drivel into a comment box, do the following
1. Read peer-reviewed research - look through pubmed, NAP, or any rigorous, scientific meta-analysis or research papers. Read them and UNDERSTAND what they say.
2. Check the statistics, and understand their importance. If only 0.000007% of people develop cancer out of a group, this is not a strong correlation.
oh look, the typical, banal response of accusing someone of working for the "opposite side". put your witch hunt bullshit on the side and provide me with peer-reviewed research next time.
Fluoride is poison! It comes from the waste of aluminum factories and its the main ingredient in rat poison! How the fuck can this shit be good for your teeth? Calcium fluoride is natural occurring, but the shit they add to our water is SODIUM FLUORIDE! The gov. adds this shit to our water supply to make us ill and lower our IQ's! I use fluoride free toothpaste (Dr. Kens) can be found online! Ecoloblue water generators make water from air and can be the solution to this problem! STOP FLUORIDE!
Not ingesting Fluoride is a no-brainer. If you doubt this, go do your own research.
One insidious fact that seems to be secret, and, yes, it is a dirty, dirty one. And to those who think that this rat poison -- yes, it is used as such -- in the tiny minuscule amounts wont hurt you, consider this:
The pineal gland, which is a remarkable gland located in the center of the human brain, collects fluoride like a sponge, and gradually, will turn to it stone (i.e. it calcifies).
I hate the thought of ingesting this poison,who are these people that think they can mass medicate us. My husband fell on his back 16months ago,fractured 3 vertebrae, he was told his bones were deteriorating,especially his spine and just lately its giving him problems as he is a builder, I think it may be the fluoride in our drinking water, what other damage can it do to us,we deserve clean healthy water.
Appeal to absuridity - check. Non-sequitur, illogical, droning, baseless arguments not based upon fact - check. Red herrings and idiotic shill accusations - check. Congratulations, your tinfoil hat is still bright and shiny. You've now passed on to beta level delusional idiot; may you be a light for all other morons of your ilk.
@hilzor again, you suck at your job. You listed a bunch of logical fallacies then ended it with one. ironic or poetic. does it really matter? I tend to agree with globalists. They can inherit the earth, I'll rot in the dirt. And again your assumption is that my references are second hand. You have to be a shill, I can't comprehend any other scenario. My foil hat is always in style. Stop hating.
@marleysherb research research, fluoride does or does not damage teeth, it is or is not poisonous. there is nothing to research. As I said, he's a shill. We don't NEED fluoride in any water supplies and the nice foil hat people are asking their government to remove it. That is all that's being discussed. As for him not being a shill you must either be his best buddy or a shill as well. In fact I think you're the same person. But does that really matter, probably not.
Of course there's nothing to research, because you already have a foregone conclusion, meaning that your "discussions" are moot.
There is a difference between arguing that fluoride is not a necessity (as I have done countless times in these comments, you fucking idiot), and arguing that it is dangerous.
@hilzor The funny thing is I'm supposed to take some professionals word for it when there's still dispute in the scientific community, then some guy asks me, sme layman to go do scientific research on my own. Do you know how many conspiracies I'm reseaching now because I don't trust a single person who isn't me?
I said research is not needed, either fluoride is poisonous or it is not. If it is poisonous get it out of the water, there's no argument there, and its been proven it's poisonous. so?
@hilzor you can't fail my logic with more failed logic. (I don't know enough latin to nit pick) During droughts, I put bleach in my water when I have to take from cistern but I won't guzzle it with ice cubes. What is your point? If i reeled over when I drank it, I'd stop putting bleach in it. Simple as that, they say it's for the citizens benefit, but if the citizens don't want it don't put it in. they can get fluoride to supplement their tooth health elsewhere, that make sense?
I'd suggest you take a logic 101 course (it's apparent you DESPERATELY need it) before trying to call anyone out for using any "failed logic".
You have done nothing but use the sweeping generalization fallacy, and when you were called out on this, you dodged the point altogether by presenting red herring arguments (and with this post, the argumentum ad populum).
You are still utterly missing the very basic point.
debate the financial aspect of fluoride if you want. debate its efficacy. however, the minute you say it's poison, or even hint that it' may be a "global conspiracy", "mind control", etc. you automatically lose.
Hmmm never heard of this fluoride stuff, but sounds yummy! It prevents cavities have you heard? They should put that stuff in toothpaste too that would be a good idea! Wow I'm so smart I thinky I'm a genius!!!
TRUTHringsTRUE 1 week ago
HEY PEOPLE I NEED SOME HELP, sorry for caps. i wanted to know if it was safe and effective to drink a glass of water with a pinch of BORAX laundry booster to remove fluoride from my body?
YashPwnter 2 weeks ago
Rat poison is sodium flouride end of discussion.
NorCalMediGrower 3 weeks ago
am i the only one that thinks this video is scary as shit and the girl makes it like 10 times scarier
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ryansimpsoncanada 4 months ago
Normally I don't use fluoridated toothpaste, but on a recent trip, I just had travel -sized tubes of paste with fluoride. After using that, my gums started to hurt. I stopped using that paste and my gums are fine again.
originalcause 4 months ago
The first person to add Flouride to the water supply was Hitler, he did this to help to keep people calm as when you consume Flouride it reduces your body's ability to fight illness and this will keep you from feeling healthy or like doing anything beneficial or even thinking about defending yourself. Excellent video. I stopped drinking tap water some time ago and almost felt like I was super charged with energy after drinking filtered water for just one month. Drink Kombucha to cleanse.
sweet6b9 5 months ago
SHILL.
docsstore1 6 months ago
WILL U ALL SHUT UP ABOUT FLORIDE AND THE GOVERNMENT, STOP FUCKING WINGING LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO BLAME GET A LIFE YOU CONSPIRICY THEORY ASSHOLES!!
rainxxxx 6 months ago
@rainxxxx looks like the fluoride did a number on someone already
neighbouroftheforest 5 months ago
@neighbouroftheforest just an excuse cos you cant afford toothpaste!
rainxxxx 5 months ago
@rainxxxx whats your excuse for being you?
neighbouroftheforest 5 months ago
@neighbouroftheforest dont should i need one?
rainxxxx 5 months ago
@rainxxxx Your use of caps along with the vocabulary you use make you look like an idiot. Please step away from the keyboard and return after you become more mature. Thank you. Have a good day.
Pax00Imperium 5 months ago
@Pax00Imperium i think you should grow up and stop being a conspiracy theorist and government hater, dot give a shit about punctuation on youtube
rainxxxx 5 months ago
Pretty girl, Sorry the fluoride made me say it. Ha ha
tim4962 7 months ago
The government make billions off of alcohol and tobacco which sickens and kills millions of adults and children in the US. Then they turn around and spend hundreds of millions to ad fluoride to the water because they are CONCERNED about your teeth? How pathetically stupid can the American public be?
richardritchey 9 months ago
If you want to see any of these studies, just ask.
CHIPSTERO7 10 months ago
Complete ignorance! Every half decent dentist will promote water fluoridation.
Do people actually think the government want to harm people?
AodhMacG 10 months ago
@AodhMacG You do realise that fluoride is only beneficial as a topical-treatment and is no way beneficial for consumption at the levels present on our water at 2-4ppm and that people's teeth in non-fluoridated countries are just as healthy than fluoridated countries? Numerous studies available to download online have shown that ingestion of fluoride at concentrations similar in water-supplies can cause thyroid- disease, osteosarcoma, kidney failure, reduced intelligence, skeletal fluorosis, etc.
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Contrary to advertisements, fluoride can NOT be removed from water with ANY water filter. The fluoride molecule only has one atom more than water. Even with distillation, 80% of the fluoride (rat poison) remains in the water. So, our rivers perpetually poison our oceans, all for the profits of a few industries owned by the same psychotic monsters who brought you the private Federal Reserve Bank and the Internal Revenue that goes directly to the Crown to pay the interest on Our fake debt.
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falltoprey1 11 months ago
just dont drink loads of it.
hunterking100 11 months ago
@carbondalekid83 you mean in vain. not in vein. big difference
ixdor94 1 year ago
chicken cant show his face and talk jesus christ....
copperhead88 1 year ago
Hypothyroidism & Dental Fluorosis is only half of the story. Got Fibromyalgia? I do! "They" say "they" don't know the cause of it but when you look at the symptoms of Fluoride poisoning they are almost identical to Fibro! I stopped drinking tap water 13+ yrs. before I knew I had Fibro but I still bathe in it & wash my hands regularly! So ingesting it isn't the only problem! I have a 10yo son who has never drank tap water regularly but is now showing signs of Fibro! This poisoning must STOP!!
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galanie 1 year ago
It's irrelevant whether or not German Nazis put flouride in the water. The American Nazis do. It's toxic waste.
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wwwtotalitaerde 1 year ago
@RobTrain09
Do you have a valid reference which proves that "nazis" put fluoride into concentration camp water?
And by the way, what would motivate the internees to escape from the camps, considering that German civilians on the outside were starving and being directly targeted by Britain's aerial campaign?
LibertaerUeberAlles 1 year ago 2
When a legitimate scientist tells me this crap I'll pay attention... not some nerd in his moms basement who jerks off to fart porn all day.
beckasha83 1 year ago
But why poison us? The longer we work the more we pay taxes...
darknessofkrish 1 year ago
Fluoride is also anesthesia, meaning the government is slowly anesthetizing you through your food and water. The #1 cause of death from surgery, more than any other complication, is anesthesia. Fluoride (not sugar) is actually the #1 cause of tooth loss. Fluoride causes multiple hormonal imbalances and induces early puberty. Fluoride was used by the medical profession at one point to suppress the thyroid gland. If fluoride suppresses the thyroid, why is it being put in your drinking water?
Slingblade347 1 year ago
@Slingblade347
no, it isn't. in fact, there's no evidence at all to suggest this outside of the anecdotal accounts of a former Russian soldier (Kenneth Goff, whose testimony is shaky at best).
You're also spouting things that are simply asinine.
Take for example the fact that, in countries where there is equal access to quality dental care and awareness of dental hygiene, that don't have fluoride in their water supplies (Japan), you see higher prevalence of tooth decay.
hilzor 1 year ago
@Slingblade347
I mean, christ, your statement is so hilariously devoid of factual information I don't even know if I should bother debunking every point or simply tell you to go play with more chicken wire and tinfoil to keep the radio waves out of your brain.
hilzor 1 year ago
They are INTENTIONALLY POISONING the food, water and prescription drugs with NERVE GAS = fluoride. HITLER and the Russian Army were the first ones to put fluoride in tap water because it makes a person unable to resist domination. There is NO BENEFIT to human consumption of fluoride. Even the smallest amount causes brain and nerve damage. Fluoride is commonly used as a pesticide, roach and rat killer, and chemical nerve gas, meaning FLUORIDE KILLS by slow accumulation in your bodies.
Slingblade347 1 year ago
@Slingblade347
No wait, I think I'll just destroy your points one by one.
Fluoride is not used as a pesticide/roach or rat killer. It is contained in these compounds. To make such a stupid assessment about chemical composition and, more or less, suggest that containing fluoride or fluorine is the same as being fluoride not only shows you are absolutely inept.
But by your logic, herp derp, water is the same as tosylic acid because they both contain hydrogen.
hilzor 1 year ago
@Slingblade347
The other hilarious thing is the reductio ad hitlerum/godwins law shit. OMG Hitler?! No way!!!!
Who gives a fuck? Hitler also breathed air. I guess we should all hold our breath so we can avoid being like that fascist asshole. Or maybe, we could stop with the insanely stupid appeal to fear fallacy and concentrate on the facts.
hilzor 1 year ago
@Slingblade347
No human benefit you say? Well, several hundred longitudinal, peer-reviewed studies in toxicology, molecular biology, environmental science and medical journals shows that, while the claims of fluoride preventing tooth decay are overstated, it does have a demonstrable effect at delaying the onset of tooth decay.
Oh, and that bit about it causing nerve damage? Patently, one hundred percent false. Exposure at standard MTLs over extended periods of time is perfectly safe.
hilzor 1 year ago
@Slingblade347
But I suppose the simplest way to debunk your claims is by simple logic, which I doubt you'll be able to grasp.
Assuming that, if fluoride were in fact detrimental to health as you say it is, then the only logical outcome would be an increase in the prevalence of nerve disorders, cancers and other ill health effects in areas that have fluoridation vs those that do not.
Guess what - we don't see this, at all...anywhere. There is no statistical evidence to suggest your claims.
hilzor 1 year ago
@Slingblade347
Why would Hitler want to make people docile? Wasn't he trying to get people motivated to fight against Communism?
LibertaerUeberAlles 1 year ago 3
so shall we all just drink bottled water then? problem solved?
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deadadelta 1 year ago
It is something we cannot chose not to use, for it is placed in our water for many, who are unaware of its dangers or it's effects, that are forced upon us. It is in water recommended as safe for babies, to mix there powdered baby formula, given to the poorer families, via the wic program. And a question is, if most do not drink tap water, how is it cost effective to add into the water by mandate, given all the health concerns being raised by its statistics, and of its minimum benefit therein?
SeekTruthinLight 1 year ago
People need to know this. I have been telling them for years. But they still buy the Tooth paste that has it in it. Keep spreading the word. Doug in Calif...
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2bee1wabby 1 year ago
@kubush Caries root cause is diet & ineffective dental hygiene, mostly excessive consumption of refined sugar. So this begs the question of why a growing number of people who like myself take responsibility for their health, should be subjected to the forced mass medication of governments, isn't it enough to let people decide if they wish to ingest fluoride via other means e.g. tooth paste. So again how can u accept a governments forced mass medication without ur consent? Time to vote again!!
veganath 1 year ago 17
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@veganath I watched my mom brush and floss every day. She died at 80 with no molars left. My siblings have spent over $30,000 on dental work in spite of their own flossing and good practices. Not enough is made of genetics. It's not JUST dental practices.
galanie 1 year ago
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@veganath I watched my mom brush and floss every day. She died at 80 with no molars left. My siblings have spent over $30,000 on dental work in spite of their own flossing and good practices. Not enough is made of genetics. It's not JUST dental practices.
galanie 1 year ago
@veganath if voting made a differences they would make it illegal
fallenempireoverdrve 11 months ago
@kubush Forced mass medication is unethical, & flies in the face of civil liberties.
Governments have NO BUSINESS adding substances to drinking water intended as prophylactics against illness not caused by drinking water. Caries is not the manifestation of fluoride deficiency, but is the result of a generally false nutrition and inefficient dental hygiene.
veganath 1 year ago
@kubush yes I found a few, pretty busy with my assignments atm, so I will get back to you in a week or so when I have some spare time to look through them again. Sorry I think a true scientist should be cynical. Because corporations, industry/ the people who control information are motivated soley by profit/etc which really is self interest I should think. Sometimes to find truth you need to be aware of the motivators behind everything, the inherent greed in humanity,
binomialbeard 1 year ago
@kubush sorry I wasnt aware that elements appeared naturally but rather in compounds, and yes flouride is an element, but the chemicals that are placed in our water are compounds produced as by products from industry, producing aluminium from bauxite etc, and by products from fertiliser industry. The people do not have a choice, so its forced, we might vote for our members of parliament or congress in your case, but once every 4 years and we certainly can not decide the outcome of bills/acts.
binomialbeard 1 year ago
@binomialbeard sorry meant element not the plural :)
binomialbeard 1 year ago
I don't know if it's just me but this robotic voice makes the information provided difficult to process. At least I think it's the voice or maybe the flouride I drink. I don't know.
confettistar 1 year ago
Water fluoridation is supported by:
CDC, National Academy of Sciences, National Institute of Dental and Craniofacial Research, Academy of Dentistry International, World Health Organization, and several other national dental and health organizations.
Any more questions?
kubush 1 year ago
@kubush would have been easier to do that in the beginning lol. Yeah Ive read a few articles now, my understanding is that the jury is still out, I guess we need to wait another 20years before a substantial amount of population that has been flouridated to see if the negative claims are true. I think the jury is out on the benefits to, studies have shown both sides. Studies have also shown that its prob safe but should also have silicon added to ensure its 100% safe for concumption
binomialbeard 1 year ago
@binomialbeard consumption lol
binomialbeard 1 year ago
@binomialbeard Water fluoridation has been occurring in the U.S. for 50 years. I think that should be enough time. No, the jury is not out on the safety or the benefits of fluoridation. There is no debate about this in the scientific community. Just check out all the references I posted.
kubush 1 year ago
@kubush there is no conclusive evidence in my mind. I would like to see a conclusive study where diet ie amount of processed sugar etc is taken into account. Comparisons between Western Europe and England etc etc etc. I did find studies that showed mixed results. And people using the same experiment to draw different conclusions both good and bad, the jury is out.
binomialbeard 1 year ago
@kubush The idea of being a scientist is to be cynical, skeptical etc and not to believe before you have proof, to continually improve your ideas to come to the correct conclusion. For me there is not 100% proof on this matter. So I will continue to eat healthly, no processed sugar, reverse ozmosis water, to exercise my mind and body and have healthy teeth like I do, no fillings decay etc. As I said maybe the gov should promote my lifestyle instead of feeding us chemical waste from industry.
binomialbeard 1 year ago
@kubush, but like ive said which I found in some articles there is plenty of it in our food etc, so force medication in the water supply is maybe still to be decided. To much can be a problem and we will only know this in 20-30 years once a significant population who has been force medicated knows, maybe people are getting to much only time will tell. I drink water without flouride, my teeth are healty, I have barely any decay and never any fillings.
binomialbeard 1 year ago
@binomialbeard It is in our foods BECAUSE of water fluoridation. That water is used to irrigate our crops which they absorb. It is not "forced medication".
kubush 1 year ago
@kubush am der thats what I said mate, and yeah the jury is out. Plus I have trouble beleiving anything that comes from the United States as I know that funds pushed in the right direction can alter any study to acheive the right results :) . Giving people medicine that they didnt chose to have is forced medication. Considering people need water to survive its a good place to start one would think. I found plenty of studies now from britain, Europe etc that show mixed results. The jury is out
binomialbeard 1 year ago
@kubush our western society is crooked, it promotes bad unhealthy lifestyles, bad food full of chemicals, high processed sugar diets, etc etc etc. Then how does the American scientist propose to fix everything? with more chemicals produced in factories, pump cows with more monsanto BGH etc etc. As a scientist which I guess you believe that you are, should you not be researching ways for people to live healthly with out adding dangerous chemicals to our water supply??
binomialbeard 1 year ago 11
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jameskoolkat 1 month ago
@kubush its a by product of industry, prob cheaper for corps to dump in water supply than in rivers & have law suits filed later, This way when the troubles arrise in 30years they can do a Hardys etc and pull a scheme to pay bugger all to anyone who got fckd up. Cheers for your reply though I appreciate it. But I feel people should have a choice, maybe the Western Govs should focus advertising on eating healthy food &cleaning your teeth rather than unhealthy lifestyles the TV always promotes :)
binomialbeard 1 year ago
@kubush maybe all the sugar that they market to children causes tooth decay, did the childeren in these areas that suffer less decay eat less lollies than ones in other areas, I think fixing the crap that children eat, getting them to exercise is prob more important and will solve most of our future health problems :)
binomialbeard 1 year ago
@kubush can you please show everyone here the "apparent proof" that you have, and yes you called me a moron and a fool so that places you in the uneducated section, I am simply asking for your proof the whole time that you mention you have discovered. WHEN YOU SHOW EVERYONE THE PROOF THAT YOU HAVE THEN I GUESS WE CAN CLOSE THIS ARGUMENT, thats all im interested in your proof that you have, once I see the proof I will probably change my mind and start drinking tap water again. please show proof
binomialbeard 1 year ago
Griffin SO, Jones K, Tomar SL. An economic evaluation of community water fluoridation. J Publ Health Dent 2001;61(2):78–86.
Ten Great Public Health Achievements—United States, 1900–1999. MMWR, December 24, 1999;48(50):1141.
Systematic review of water fluoridation BMJ 2000; 321 : 855 doi: 10.1136/bmj.321.7265.855 (Published 7 October 2000)
kubush 1 year ago
@kubush What’s your education level mate?\ What have you studied or learnt about in your life? Can you explain your "apparent" reasoning in your answer, or do you just look for people to criticise because you don’t have the mental capacity to answer a simple question, or to understand anything beyond the propoganda that is shown to your on your biased media. Can you show everyone this "proof" you speak of so frequently here. Probably not, I expect you will reply with another derogatory comment
binomialbeard 1 year ago
@binomialbeard Sorry I am not going to respect anyone that constantly strawmans me. You need to go get educated, learn some critical thinking, and do some actual research other than youtube and anti-fluoride sites.
kubush 1 year ago
@kubush well you are derogatory and obvioulsy quite arrogant. you are asked a simple question to tell us all here where you have found this "apparent proof" you have mentioned. You have written that is has been proven? All I asked was that you show everyone here who wants to know the proof. Yes I am educated, in doing a masters degree in statistics, so I know how all these studies work and how easy it is to manipulate numbers to suit any agenda. Perhaps you do not understand scientific concepts
binomialbeard 1 year ago 2
@kubush I have actually been onto this before youtube existed, no I havent been to any anti-flouride sites. I searched my university data base which contains practically every academic/scientific paper thats ever been published in the world by western scientists at western institutions, I couldn't find any scientific studies which represented your claims. Instead of being rude, could you please tell all the waiting people here about your "apparent proof" instead of labelling me a fool & a moron
binomialbeard 1 year ago 2
@kubush If you are able to comprehend sarcasm, you would be able to infer with your great critical thinking mind that you have, when I gave you a "strawman" answer about believing the propoganda on the television, you should have been able to read between the lines at what I was trying to tell you. But as you have shown everyone here, you are only capable of criticism, derogatory and ignorant comments. Educated people don't put others down, but try to help to enlighten others to their wisdom.
binomialbeard 1 year ago 2
@kubush nah not pretending to be educated, I understand the assumptions that would be made when doing a study like that, especially when its most likely funded by industry or the goverment. I drink reverse ozmosis water my whole life, I have never had any fillings, my dentist says my teeth are in perfect health, so I know I dont need to drink poison to stay healthy.
As I say your reasoning "apparently" where did you see this "apparent" truth, the television?? I forgot the TV never lies :(
binomialbeard 1 year ago
@kubush That is an absolute and blatent lie. It is NOT proven safe and it does NOT save us a cent on health costs, rather it costs us more. Follow the science on this one, not CNN.
xxTimelessxx 1 year ago
@xxTimelessxx I agree with you, this Kubush person is obviously ine who believes everything the media tells them, or works for the media, I have asked for the proof that Kubush mentions, making the claims it's not dangerous, its not poison, its safe. But no mention of where to find this information that is known to Kubush, only derogatory comments. Im interested in all facts, so would like to here where I can find out this information other than mass media outlets
binomialbeard 1 year ago
@binomialbeard The substance is certainly in question, and the fact that he cannot admit that tells us that his motives are certainly not truth or the well being of others. But it is not the effects that truly ripens the situation, it is the lack of concent by the public. Yes it was voted in in most places, but this is not something that should be left to democracy. A questionable substance being forced upon others can only be unanimous, so our only choice is to remove it entirely
xxTimelessxx 1 year ago
@xxTimelessxx yeah prob works for the same industry that sponsors fake scientific research, I have asked for his "proof" many times now but he wont give it up, but only responds with negative answers, I would love to hear proof that it is good, then I will start to drink tap water again
binomialbeard 1 year ago
Our family has used 0 flouride our entire lives and have no cavities (we are on well water). It is true that natural flouride (not the type used in water/toothpaste) can be found in the groundwater. The type put into water/toothpaste is a poisonous industry waste material. If you don't believe toothpaste is a poison, read the warning on the side of your flouridated water: "If you swallow more than a pea sized amount, call the poison control center immediately".Kubush: who do you work for?
kmhutter 1 year ago
@kmhutter I WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT AND THE ELITE SECRET SOCIETY OF BANKERS THAT CONSPIRE TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE POPULATION! LOL.
No, seriously. Fluoride in moderate amounts is very safe. The amount in toothpaste far exceeds the amount in the water and it can be unsafe for infants and small children if too much is ingested. Anything in excess can be unsafe. That is an irrational excuse to ban it.
kubush 1 year ago
@kmhutter I agree that Kubush seems to have either a hidden agenda, or an enormous ego. Regardless of the effects, even he cannot deny the immorality of force feeding such a controversial substance to the public. If they want fluoride, they can get plenty with bottled water, fluoridated toothpaste or any black teas. If the government wants to help us, and redeem some public image, take the poison out of our water, and put some vitamins in it; We lack them with Monsanto running the food industry.
xxTimelessxx 1 year ago
@xxTimelessxx "a controversial substance" There is no controversy about its efficacy and safety in the scientific community. This "controversy" in the public square is driven by ignorance.
kubush 1 year ago
@kubush yeah it prob does reduce tooth decay, but if you brush your teeth and eat enough calcium what would be the problem??? So the question again, why does the government in my country Australia 2, feel they have the need to put rat poison in our water?? The nazi used it as a mindsupression tool, and we know where they got a fair chunk of their Eugenics ideas from the good old U.S of corrupt A. Please explain why we need harmful rat poison in our water supply,?
binomialbeard 1 year ago
@binomialbeard Dental researchers have shown that just introducing fluoride into a (previously unfluoridated) city's drinking water supply can reduce its inhabitants' rate of tooth decay between 40 and 70 percent.
Apparently just brushing your teeth isn't enough. It is not rat poison. At least not in the amounts that are in our water and toothpaste. The moderate amount in our water has been proven safe and very effective in fighting tooth decay.
You're begging the question.
kubush 1 year ago
@kubush yeah i like your reasoning "apparently", and yes it is rat poison, and how have they shown that??? mate you obvioulsly know nothing of statistics or science as you wouldnt make that comment, im going my masters in statistics, I know how easy it is to make any representation that you desire, and how easily one can misinterpret numbers which dont mean anything to suit whatever agenda they desire. Proven safe, can you please show me this "proof" as you call it??oh yes the TV said so, sorry
binomialbeard 1 year ago
@binomialbeard
Oh, the "nazis" were using it as a "mind suppression tool"? Exactly whose minds were they trying to suppress?
LibertaerUeberAlles 1 year ago 2
@kubush Well I guess we can call the Harvard scientists who conducted this study gullible, ignorant and uneducated by your logic. I've provided multiple links and solidity on my arguement, yet all we have from you is a sad attempt at hole filling with faulty logic. I think its time for you to drop your ego and stubborness on the issue and look at the true facts, for you are only making an already harsh matter even worse. Peace and love friend.
xxTimelessxx 1 year ago
@xxTimelessxx gahhh cant post a link so just google effects of fluoride and it will be your first link that comes up that will bring you to the Harvard study completed on the issue. Also, that is only one of so many studies on the negative effects of water fluoridation, and yet all I'm hearing from dentists is that it is only really effective through topical application. If you've found information stating otherwise, I'd certainly love to see it
xxTimelessxx 1 year ago
@kubush Dont let your yawning put others to sleep. You preach all the things many of us would like to hear, but that is just not reality. You have obviously done very little to no research beyond your television and now you are trying to pull your wool over the eyes of others. Spreading truth is not about telling others what is wrong in your mind due to a blatent lack of dedication to finding such answers, but rather leading them to find the truth with their own filters. Go find some answers.
xxTimelessxx 1 year ago
A testable claim, robot. Care to cite papers showing a link between tap water consumption and DEATH.
Fluoride has good uses and the only risk is to infants who might drink very large quantities of it leading to mild dental fluorosis
tommyk77 1 year ago
@tommyk77 Do your research on both sides of the subject, friend. All you need to do to access a mass amount of information on the negative effects and the lack of positives with fluoride is to type "effects of fluoride" into Google. First one that comes up is a Harvard medical study that claims the same things as this video. Very hard to avoid in the city for 80% of bottled water is also now fluoridated. Do not act as an example for a topic you know nothing about.
peace and love.
xxTimelessxx 1 year ago
@xxTimelessxx Still sounds controversial. I'm always skeptical of these claims. I tend to treat them the same as the 9/11 conspiracy theory, Illuminati claims etc.
tommyk77 1 year ago
@tommyk77 You are right to filter all information that you come across, but the evidence is more clear on the fluoride issue than any other, while posing a serious and iminent threat to us all. Also, do a little more research into the 9/11 thing... its beyond suspicious. A great vid for that is "A blueprint for truth"
xxTimelessxx 1 year ago
@xxTimelessxx Then why can I not find anything beyond the occassional dental fluorosis case? The rest is just anecdotes or You Tube robots.
You think 9/11 was a set up? Oh well. I just find it massively implausible and the evidence is (yes, a little funny) but insufficient to show a conspiracy
tommyk77 1 year ago
@tommyk77 I dont see how you're having trouble finding the fluoride info... but just google "effects of fluoride" and click the first link. It will bring you to a study conducted by Harvard scientists on the issue, and will explain much more than dental fluorosis. As for the 9/11 issue, you must not have watched the video I recommended. Problem-Action-Solution is what the government is known for. How many rights have we lost since then? and how many casualties came about? Worth a look.
xxTimelessxx 1 year ago
@xxTimelessxx The first page is almost entirely scaremongering sites. The actual science, as kubush points out, is not what the anti-fluoride sites say.
How many rights have we lost? Well, not any really. America is drunk on rights, if you ask me.
tommyk77 1 year ago
@tommyk77 Scaremongering? really? Its a science we need to pay attention to. Such as when lead was put in our gasoline and asbestos in our walls, sometimes we jump the gun. It is ignorant people like you who close the minds of others to the warning signs placed before us due to their own fear of being wrong. Wake up and start weighing the extremely minor and exaggerated benefits with the overwhelming scientific evidence that it is harming us. Start brushing your teeth, its worth the clean water
xxTimelessxx 1 year ago
@tommyk77 And the fact that the U.S. used 9/11 as a platform to send our soldiers to an endless war and ravage so many other countries in the name of patriotism is testament enough to their opportunism. Airport security has been raised immensly at the cost of our tax money, when we blew up our own damn towers. look at the facts and tell me how tower 7, the CIA building, fell like a stack of pancakes from some corner damage. Youre not shedding light on issues, you're tucking them into the shadows
xxTimelessxx 1 year ago
@xxTimelessxx Oh, not another 9/11 twoofer. Puleaze. Tower 7 had a gaping hole in it due to debris and the firemen on the ground witnessed first hand the structural damage and they knew it was coming down, that is why they pulled out. The pentagon did not fall like a pancake at all.
kubush 1 year ago
@xxTimelessxx Yes, and asbestos was immediately discontinued when then science showed it to be harmful.
You can't just cite extreme cases in fluoride exposure and try to say that the amount in tap water causes the same effect.
you're as bad a the anti-vax crowd that try to say that thymerasol causes autism or the mercury levels are dangerously high.
The evidence is not on your side. Sorry
tommyk77 1 year ago
@tommyk77 I must apologize for allowing this arguement to reach such levels without even going into the main issue of it all. Negative or positive effects put aside, do you not think it should be the individual decision of the person on whether or not they should have to drink a medicinal product? Majority rule or not, this is a drug. There are obviously mixed oppinions on it by many, and yet all of us must drink it. For those who truly want this in there water, there is fluoridated bottles
xxTimelessxx 1 year ago
@tommyk77 but for those trying to avoid it due to pregnancies or making baby formula, or even those "whack jobs" who think its bad for them, it is a daunting task. This is backwards and needs to be addressed, for forced medication is illegal and immoral. I thank you for pushing me to find even more information on the subject and for being a great test to my patience on the issue. This was an enlightening conversation and I appreciate your engagement in it.
Peace to you friend
xxTimelessxx 1 year ago
@xxTimelessxx Let me first say that I've liked your politeness. However, the term 'medicinal' is slippery. All water contains impurities, which could be classed as medicinal, but that is why we have tests to find out the dangerous levels of such substances.
Forced medication (flu vaccines spring to mind) does impinge on the rights of those against it, but it also impinges on the rights of the more susceptible who would want others to not be a risk to them.
Anyway, see ya
tommyk77 1 year ago
u may as well drink nuclear reactor waste..!
i think ive spoken to this robot on the phone..
sugoo2 1 year ago
@kubush lol
switzeridoo 1 year ago
@kubush the science provided by miskolzci is much more advanced than the bullshit assumptions that the IPCC make in there models e.g the atmosphere is infinitely large, negative feedbacks are irrelevant etc. all they spend there time doing is trying to fit there data into the most scary looking graphs to decieve people. compare there initial graphs with the medieval warm period to there more recent graphs. you'll see the "grey area" which hides the truth about the temps back then
thedominator1991 1 year ago
@kubush well actually.. the science that says that man is causing the earth to warm up is so far from certainty its not even funny.. if you spent the time looking into the actual science rather than some bs graphs shown by al gore. and by the way his CO2 versus Temperature graphs are quite misleading.. look closely and you'll see that CO2 increase lags temperature by up to 800 years...the temp drives CO2 not the other way around. you should look into those papers i linked you..
thedominator1991 1 year ago
@kubush in the largely funded ipcc etc. are absolute rubbish.. assuming the atmosphere is infinite with no boundary conditions, assuming the relative humidity is constant, are all massive assumptions that yield there hockey stick graphs absolutely rubbish.. have a look through these journals and read up on Dr. Ferenc Miscolzi.. heres a link of most of his papers and a summary miskolczi(dot)webs(dot)com ..
thedominator1991 1 year ago
@kubush umm... well actually it is.. sodium fluoride is one of the most toxic non-radioactive substances known to man.. you know what rat trap is? .. its a poison thats used to kill vermon.. active ingredient? sodium fluoride.. do some research before you post ridiculous replies
thedominator1991 1 year ago
Sorry but what the fuck was that?
TriggerBoxes 1 year ago
Can you say governments solution to population control?
goedtg 1 year ago
@goedtg Population control? LOL. Really? Please show me the charts that show how our population has declined over the mass poisoning of the people over decades. This video has a ton of lies and you bought into every one of them.
kubush 1 year ago
@kubush, for starters, watch the video on YouTube called "The Fluoride Deception". Then, you'll see how ignorant you are about fluoride.
Then, start utilizing the alternative media (like InfoWars.com), instead of simply relying on the corporate controlled mainstream media. The fact is that there are a small group of very evil, power-hungry people in this world, and they've been steering planetary affairs for centuries to further their sinister multi-generational agendas.
TAKE THE RED PILL.
BRYAN351 1 year ago
@kubush i just wanted to say.. i looked at your channel and i see you are very much a scientific person.. but what you don't realise is that everything that you think is scientific is not necessarily good science.. when there is money behind something, it does not take much effort for false science to be published and in turn millions of dollars made.. i see you are also very certain that climate change is caused by man.. but if you look at the science.. the assumptions made in the
thedominator1991 1 year ago
@kubush It was a sarcastic comment stupid.
goedtg 1 year ago
@kubush I believe they were speaking of the control of the population and not the number of us. We are docile and blindly walking down the path of materialism without a second thought to anything deeper. Want to see a worthwhile chart? google "water fluoridation vs. tooth decay" under images and you'll see there are no positive effects whatsoever. Do your research before calling someone a fool, or you'll be the one laughed at.
xxTimelessxx 1 year ago
What misinformation!
1971SuperLead 1 year ago
@1971SuperLead
yes very much misinformation.. if you like the idea of drinkng poision that is
thedominator1991 1 year ago
People who thumbed this down are idiots! DO the research people! Our own government is poisoning us. Look into WHY they are doing it. Google search it.
Stop being stupid and educate yourselves! Peace
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HoodwinkedbyanAngel 1 year ago
And on the eight day, God created propaganda
part2themovie 1 year ago
Oh, excuse me, his name is Duesberg, not Deusberg. Oh well.
hilzor 1 year ago
she's hot .. but the fluoride made her talk like a spaz
dtowno351 1 year ago
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banks2012cf 1 year ago
so you think this some sort of cool marketing? this video is a major fucking loser. i suppose you believe it to be artistic. it is a major loser. sincerity is the correct marketing approach, stop being a fucking loser daveyjonesrockit. this is not artistic. stop being a fucking loser.
kroovyandcal 1 year ago
Is her lips on upside down? did fluoride do that?
TheBoHoBoy 1 year ago
Fluoridated toothpaste is best used to remove scratches from CD/DVD's and not for your teeth.
Look for videos on YouTube about using toothpaste to remove scratches from DVD/CD's
wddcw 1 year ago
make your own homemade toothpaste, deodorant, shampoo, laundry detergent, bar soap and more.
Look for videos on YouTube about how to make these homemade
wddcw 1 year ago 2
you can remove this from your water easily with a berkey water system from ShaneShop (dot) net. Ask me more about it.
shaneshopnet 1 year ago
I brush with toddler/training toothpaste (Don't laugh;)
But think... Why Sodium Fluoride and not Calcium Fluoride...
Fluorides are toxic to humans, however CaF2 is considered relatively harmless due to its extreme insolubility.
RacingRoy 1 year ago
@RacingRoy I understand your problem with crest and other mainstream toothpastes. There is alternatives like Nature's Gate that works much better than kidpaste. That is made to have very weak chemicals and will not do you good for very long.
Hope this helps.
marleysherb 1 year ago
Really, people. You aren't even making this a challenge.
Before dumping some insipid, idiotic drivel into a comment box, do the following
1. Read peer-reviewed research - look through pubmed, NAP, or any rigorous, scientific meta-analysis or research papers. Read them and UNDERSTAND what they say.
2. Check the statistics, and understand their importance. If only 0.000007% of people develop cancer out of a group, this is not a strong correlation.
3. Learn basic science - chem, micro, etc.
hilzor 1 year ago
@hilzor
*cough* disinformation agent *cough*
stupaod 1 year ago
@stupaod
Amen
TB0N33 1 year ago
@stupaod
oh look, the typical, banal response of accusing someone of working for the "opposite side". put your witch hunt bullshit on the side and provide me with peer-reviewed research next time.
hilzor 1 year ago
@hilzor realistically most people cannot comprehend anything in a white paper.
part2themovie 1 year ago
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LiberteDonneur 1 year ago
Fluoride is poison! It comes from the waste of aluminum factories and its the main ingredient in rat poison! How the fuck can this shit be good for your teeth? Calcium fluoride is natural occurring, but the shit they add to our water is SODIUM FLUORIDE! The gov. adds this shit to our water supply to make us ill and lower our IQ's! I use fluoride free toothpaste (Dr. Kens) can be found online! Ecoloblue water generators make water from air and can be the solution to this problem! STOP FLUORIDE!
pidos847 1 year ago
Not ingesting Fluoride is a no-brainer. If you doubt this, go do your own research.
One insidious fact that seems to be secret, and, yes, it is a dirty, dirty one. And to those who think that this rat poison -- yes, it is used as such -- in the tiny minuscule amounts wont hurt you, consider this:
The pineal gland, which is a remarkable gland located in the center of the human brain, collects fluoride like a sponge, and gradually, will turn to it stone (i.e. it calcifies).
Connect the dots.
LiberteDonneur 1 year ago
@LiberteDonneur
I hate the thought of ingesting this poison,who are these people that think they can mass medicate us. My husband fell on his back 16months ago,fractured 3 vertebrae, he was told his bones were deteriorating,especially his spine and just lately its giving him problems as he is a builder, I think it may be the fluoride in our drinking water, what other damage can it do to us,we deserve clean healthy water.
marthaBot 1 year ago
@marthaBot
you deserve a tinfoil hat.
hilzor 1 year ago
@hilzor ad hominems - check. spam channel - check. cash in the check. repeat
part2themovie 1 year ago
@part2themovie
Appeal to absuridity - check. Non-sequitur, illogical, droning, baseless arguments not based upon fact - check. Red herrings and idiotic shill accusations - check. Congratulations, your tinfoil hat is still bright and shiny. You've now passed on to beta level delusional idiot; may you be a light for all other morons of your ilk.
hilzor 1 year ago
@hilzor again, you suck at your job. You listed a bunch of logical fallacies then ended it with one. ironic or poetic. does it really matter? I tend to agree with globalists. They can inherit the earth, I'll rot in the dirt. And again your assumption is that my references are second hand. You have to be a shill, I can't comprehend any other scenario. My foil hat is always in style. Stop hating.
part2themovie 1 year ago
@part2themovie He's not a shill, and you should pay mind to what he's told you.
A foil hat is only good if you have a valid concern, otherwise.. you end up looking like a fool and teaching others to be fools.
Before you jump to conclusions, read. understand. and read again.. until you really understand.
You will find the truth.
marleysherb 1 year ago
@marleysherb research research, fluoride does or does not damage teeth, it is or is not poisonous. there is nothing to research. As I said, he's a shill. We don't NEED fluoride in any water supplies and the nice foil hat people are asking their government to remove it. That is all that's being discussed. As for him not being a shill you must either be his best buddy or a shill as well. In fact I think you're the same person. But does that really matter, probably not.
part2themovie 1 year ago
@part2themovie
Of course there's nothing to research, because you already have a foregone conclusion, meaning that your "discussions" are moot.
There is a difference between arguing that fluoride is not a necessity (as I have done countless times in these comments, you fucking idiot), and arguing that it is dangerous.
hilzor 1 year ago
@hilzor The funny thing is I'm supposed to take some professionals word for it when there's still dispute in the scientific community, then some guy asks me, sme layman to go do scientific research on my own. Do you know how many conspiracies I'm reseaching now because I don't trust a single person who isn't me?
I said research is not needed, either fluoride is poisonous or it is not. If it is poisonous get it out of the water, there's no argument there, and its been proven it's poisonous. so?
part2themovie 1 year ago
@part2themovie
Here's where your "logic" fails.
Fluoride is poison (above MTLs)
so is water
so is salt
so is calcium
so is vitamin d
so is potassium
so is oxygen
Should we remove these things from our every day use as well, solely because of their poisonous nature?
hilzor 1 year ago
@hilzor you can't fail my logic with more failed logic. (I don't know enough latin to nit pick) During droughts, I put bleach in my water when I have to take from cistern but I won't guzzle it with ice cubes. What is your point? If i reeled over when I drank it, I'd stop putting bleach in it. Simple as that, they say it's for the citizens benefit, but if the citizens don't want it don't put it in. they can get fluoride to supplement their tooth health elsewhere, that make sense?
part2themovie 1 year ago
@part2themovie
I'd suggest you take a logic 101 course (it's apparent you DESPERATELY need it) before trying to call anyone out for using any "failed logic".
You have done nothing but use the sweeping generalization fallacy, and when you were called out on this, you dodged the point altogether by presenting red herring arguments (and with this post, the argumentum ad populum).
You are still utterly missing the very basic point.
hilzor 1 year ago
@hilzor which is?
part2themovie 1 year ago
@part2themovie Toothpaste, fluoride mouthwash, and drinking water have three completely different fluoridation levels.
All of the amounts in each are low.
Drinking water has the lowest amount of fluoride.
Fluoride mouthwash is clinically proven to strengthen teeth and prevent tooth decay for both adults and children.
Again, cavities and tooth decay are more dangerous than fluoride.
Cavities cause holes and structural damage in the teeth and begin early in your childhood.
marleysherb 1 year ago
@marleysherb Again, cavities and tooth decay are more dangerous than fluoride.
OK. Fuck you. Good bye.
part2themovie 1 year ago
@part2themovie You do not like fluoride right?
TheVoicelnYourHead 1 year ago
@part2themovie
debate the financial aspect of fluoride if you want. debate its efficacy. however, the minute you say it's poison, or even hint that it' may be a "global conspiracy", "mind control", etc. you automatically lose.
hilzor 1 year ago
@hilzor it is a global conspiracy, mind control and a poison.
who do i lose to?
part2themovie 1 year ago