As a jew from latin america (Brazil) I must tell you something. The reason why not anyone can enter in a synagogue there is ONLY because of security issues. Try to become more informed about neo nazism in Latin America and the deficient Police and deficient prison system, which encourage crime. It will be a chilul ashem if you don't post a video correcting what you said, and saying the truth: that the shuls in latin america are not open to everybody just because of security purposes ONLY.
@fniski This is not true, I've been to latin america many times and the policy is that non Jews are not allowed to enter a synagogue even if they meet with the rabbi before hand.. In many places many arent even allowed to purchase kosher food... If it was just security just frisk them and let them in..
I dont a gree that the reason is racism. You don't know that most converts to judaism today are fake and thats why the cummonuity has to very carefull with conversions. Its the same case with those who ask for Sedaqa who are crooks. The crooks save our lives becuase if they didn't exist we would have no excuse for not givign charity.
@irationalpie According to halakhà,you do NOT have the right to judge converts' sincerity;unless of course you are part of the beth din which is examining them BEFORE conversion.
this is the biggest chilul hashem in the world , its wrong what he is doing , he is the biggest racist !
according to Jewish law , it says that you are not allowed to encourage conversing , it is against the Torah to allow non Jews into Judaism without them proving their love to Torah , practicing the Torah fully (and not like this guy says ) , what this guy is saying is to become reform and to attack Judaism , shame on him !!
@333iubelo what he is doing is chilul hashem bepharhesya , basicaly he is calling some jews not friendly , well i agree with what he says , it shouldnt be said or the whole world to see because when the world hears jews they think all of them !
MORE DISINFORMATION. YOU CAN'T BE SO IGNORANT AS TO COMPLETELY IGNORE THE ORIGINS OF YOUR OWN PEOPLES MIGRATION AND OCCUPATION OF THE LAND WHICH IS ALL BACKED BY HISTORICAL INFORMATION DOCUMENTED IN YOUR OWN BOOKS! I COMPARE YOU TO THE SCRIPTURE WHERE THE MESSIAH MAKES REFERENCE TO THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND. YOU KEEP DIGGING YOUR DITCHES AND THE REVELATIONS SPOKEN ABOUT YOU WILL LEAD YOU TO THE PLOTS OF YOUR OWN MAKING.
I'm sorry, but your words sound dangerous. You are basically calling for a Piloog, a rift in the Jewish nation. While honest converts may be zealous, there should be strict screaning for those with hidden interests. And while the process of conversion isn't specified in the Bible, so is the seremony of Biyoom and Halitza and even weddings. Is it really all lies? We are trying our best, although it may not be perfect. Personally, I know of several converts.
Timna was blocked from conversion by God inspired men. They knew the reason why, which may be hidden from us. Also, her name itself indicates that she will be blocked: Timna, from the verb M.N.A (Mem, Nun, Ain)
I don't see the problem here? It's not unusual for rabbis not to recognize conversions done by other rabbis. The orthodoxy does it all the time. Move on, you do not have an argument here.
the torah does not say anything about conversions. what it speaks of is intermarraige. so, this is not racism otherwise there would be no intermarraige either.
basically, it says only after 4 generations is the descendant of a foreigner to be considered an israelite. if people could convert, then this would make this entire section of the torah irrelevant.
the torah also says tht foreigners can live amongst the israelites if they agree to obey the laws, but that does not make them israelites
@JewishJedi1 ...Possibly so, but I don't accept the Talmud as the final authority. If the Torah mentioned a procedure and then the Talmud expanded on it, maybe that would make sense. But the Talmud just cannot unilaterally introduce the subject of conversions when it is not even mentioned in the Torah.
The Chabadniks say that the 1st conversion was performed by Moses before he went up to Mount Sinai, but then people also say the Talmud says Osneath was converted by Joseph 400 years earlier !
@drorbenami I agree that it should not be. leave no doubt, it's a creation of man's. However, I cannot find any actual steps for conversion in the Torah.
@JewishJedi1 ..that is because there are no procedures. If a person can convert in one or two years, then why would anyone go thru the inter-marraige procedure which takes at least 80 years and only applies to the 4th generation. In other words: a Greek man who marries a Jewish woman, is NEVER a Jew. His children aren't Jews, his grandchildren aren't Jews !!! But, what the rabbis are teaching is that "if you do what they say" you can be a Jew in 24 months or less.....
@pakijew4 ...of course it discourages conversion. it is clearly written that one may not add to or take away from the torah. There is no such thing as conversion in Judaism. The rabbis and the Maccabees made the whole thing up about 300 B.C. In other words, they added to the law.
The Israelites are called "God's Chosen People". What the rabbis are doing is saying "Jews are our chosen people. If you do exactly what we say for 12, 16 or 20 months, depending on the rabbi, then you are a Jew."
@drorbenami .........When a proselyte comes to be converted, one receives him with an open hand so as to bring him under the wings of the Divine Presence." (Leviticus Rabbah 2:9) ...then this should,nt been mentioned i guess..
@pakijew4 ...you don't know the difference between the torah and the midrash ? The Leviticus Rabbah you quoted is written by men,,,,it is not considered the word of God.
There is not one convert listed in any of the genealogies of the torah. there is not a single conversion mentioned . everyone says osneath , zipporah, ruth, the mother of absalom, the mother of king rehobaum,, all converted, but nowhere is it mentioned that they converted and nowhere is a procedure given. it is all lies
@ShlomoHaAvinoo ....he shall be come as a native born, but he is not as israelite. Just because a person is circumcized does not make him an isralite. otherwise Ishamel would be an israelite..all of Abrahams servants were circumcized but the covenant only passed thru Isaac.
There are no genealogies for Abrahams servants and there are no genealogies for the strangers who left egypt. also it they converted , to which tribe do they belong? see part 2
@ShlomoHaAvinoo continued... you agree that a person can be an israelite thru intermarraige after 4 generations. that is clearly written....so, if I had a choice to convert and "immediately" become an israelite, and my children who be considered isralites and my grand children would be israelites , then why would I even consider the intermarraige option ? by intermarraige I am not going to be an israelite, my children are not, nor are my grandchildren....why would i do it if I had an option ?
@drorbenami Only Certain Tribes had to Wait until the 3rd Generation until they could do that.Most o these peoples(except the Egyptian)are Wiped out anyway.
Today However most converts Can Immediately integrate.
@ShlomoHaAvinoo you are wrong....only egyptians could intermarry in 3 generations....everyone else had to wait 4 generations....your point about being wiped out is stupid....they were not wiped out ...only those people over the age of 20 were killed....it is written....again, you say there were many converts....name one male convert and list his descendants....all the converts everyone speaks about are woman....they were not converts they were the property of their husbands
@ShlomoHaAvinoo .....if you would just think for a moment instead of grasping at straws, Esau was circumcised wasn't he ? He was "jewish enough in his behaviour that Isaac was willing to bless him and indeed he thought that he had blessed him. furthermore, esau was described as the favorite of isaac...so with all that why isn't in considered Jewish and his descendants jewish? Israel is God's chosen people, they are not just anybody off the street who some rabbi decides to convert.....
the land''Did you not read the Verses Closely? It Talks of joining Jacob.According to Judges The Isralties mixed in With the Canenites so today they Would be NOT thru the Father.
it si Impossible to know a True paternal son of Ya'akv because of the heavy intermrige between canen(see Chronicles ).
@ShlomoHaAvinoo ....i read what it says but I don't agree with you interpretation....furthermore, the karaites don't usually perform conversions, so they obviously don't agree either,,,,,
according to what you are saying we are not sure if King David was Jewish ? It is not forbidden to intermarry, the law says that israelites could marry canaanite virgins, does it not ? King Ahab married Jezebel didn't he? are you saying that 2 of the kings of Israel were not Jewish ?
@ShlomoHaAvinoo what's to tell? it says he was a hittite doesn't it ? He was a foreigner in the service of David. and he was n't the only one...I firget the name but during the war with absalom David told someone to go home because he wasn't jewish, but the man refused...are you seriously trying to say that Urioah the hittite was a convert ?
@ShlomoHaAvinoo ....you know there is something new in Israel. it is called the books of the law,a dnthese are the 1st 5 books of the old testaement. it is also called the torah, perhaps you have heard of it.???
Give the name of one male convert in the books of the law. tell me who converted him and what were the name of his children...don't speak about messianic times and what will happened....show me where it is written in the books of the law....
I completely understand how Amalek could be born from Timnah. Timnah who was a sincere hopeful convert, was turned down IN ERROR by Abraham, Isaac, and Yaakov. Her anger and her hatred is righteous and true for those who refused to allow her to come home where her soul belongs. From that hatred and anger Amalek was born, and this should be a lesson to the RABBIS who refuse to allow sincere converts to enter in. They hold the keys but will not open the doors, and there is a special hell for them.
why do you jews circumcise? just curious I've always wondered. i mean as far as I know its not just for health or anything or else it wouldn't be enforced right.
@ZombieNoobs ...it is a physical sign that the land of Israel has been promised to the children of Israel. an agreement was made and to show they accepted the terms of the agreement the Israelites must circumcise themselves. in addition to this, Ishamel, the father of the arabs, was promised 12 princes if he accepted the terms of the same agreement. Hence the fact that till this very day arabs and most muslims circumcise themselves proves that this agreement was made and Israel is not arab land
Thank you so much for making such an amazing video! I just wanted to say that what you said about Syrian synagogues/ Syrian Jew is very true.
I am not a convert myself but my father is not Jewish (he's Muslim) and I was raised as a Muslim. My mother is Jewish. I became interested in Judaism a few years ago and decided to learn more...I turned to my mother's family for support as it wasn't exactly a smooth ride. My mother's family is part Syrian. I wasn't welcome at all :(
So its not just converts that receive this sort of treatment (from Syrians and other Jews), its people exploring their Jewish heritage for the first time as well. and it can be very mentally damaging unfortunately. It helps to know that I'm not the only that went through this.
Thank you so much for this video. As a convert, there is no video on youtube that I appreciate more than this one. For those of us who found Xianity polytheistic, conversion to Judaism allows us to love G-d alone.
It's surprising to learn that the highest level of Rh- in any region of the world is in the Karaites people of Iraq with 53 per cent of the Rh-negative Cde complex. 50% of the Basque population is Rh-negative. The next highest levels are in Wales and Scotland. The Karaites are actually a Jewish sect that rarely inter marry outside their own blood lines.
What's really surprising is that the "Berbers" that travel freely throughout the Middle East are 35% Rh-Negative. Some sources say that the "Berbers" are "European" and that they originated on the border of Syria and Iraq about 2,000 BC. Some sources say that the ancient Norsemen are the "Seabourne" Berbers.
And by the way I don't necessarily agree with the rule that the Syrian community has made (Don't have a definite opinion/know all the facts, etc.) BUT I have written to show some of the REASONS for making it. And also a little of their perspective.
Geoasher23's comment of "Racism" I believe is wrong and shows ignorance of the situation.Facts are that this is a recent thing made in America specifically.I don't believe Syrian Jews view Americans lower then Arabs.
Anyway with the Syrian community things are more complicated. Why not try to understand THEIR perspective? Facts are that in the U.S.A. starting with Askenazim their were many "conversions" done that had its main reason of falling in "love". Then Syrians came to the U.S. Their were many instances where some guys would go to clubs and meet different non-Jewish women....
@extazy17 These women seeing that they have $ also agreed to go through with "converting". This would happen often resulting in many fake people converting, and most of all resulting in intermarriage and non-Jewish children being born to Syrian Jewish men). The Syrian community said enough is enough. We don't allow our children to marry even converts becuase of the high rate of fake conversions. If one does soo, they can but they wont be part of the community. (Wont get support, etc.)
9I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
@86mjones Yeah that would apply to those Gentiles today who call themselves Messianic "Jews" when in fact they are not born of a Jewish mother, didnt convert to Judaism through any Jewish branch, have no interest in being real Jews, but are instead Fundamentalist Christians who think their pagan new testament replaces God's Torah, and they call themselves "Jews". They are not Jews. Messianic "Judaism" was begun by Baptists and is not any branch of Judaism whatsoever. Fits your quote perfectly.
I am in awe of my husband's tenacity and patience in converting to Judaism via the Orthodox Bet Dein in our community, a group of otherwise kind rabbis who seem to delight in torturing potential converts and making them cry. And I am furious with the current anti-convert sentiment amongst the rabbinate in Israel particularly. Keep up the good work!
@tziporrasimcha Non-Jews who marry Jewish women and then want to convert in order to be accepted or to stay with them have a big problem. To begin with a Jewish man or women should not be marrying a non-Jew. With that then as in your situation, the marriage is not a "marriage" as defined by Jewish law and every time they are together they are violating G-D's law. How can someone want to be a SINCERE convert while breaking Jewish law? ( I understand the Rabbi's who wouldn't want this individual
@extazy17 What about non-Jews who marry non-religious Jewish women and then TOGETHER the couple that Torah observant Judaism is the truth? It's not just one couple that has this problem, but many! And yes, the situation was terribly difficult - to come to the conclusion that you are violating G-d's laws by being together but not having a better solution than to wade through the conversion process. You have no idea. It is why I am now so outspoken against intermarriage.
@tziporrasimcha I do understand the situation, but I am not a Rabbi, nor do I know the case to say anything specific. People should contact a good Orthodox Rabbi (preferably a Rabbinic court) who deals with these types of issues and also then better someone who knows and is in contact with the couple or at least one of the people.
Nice video, I won't disagree with you, Know where you are coming from. My dad is Syrian Jew and I agree that they are protective about intermarriage. It is because a child is considered Muslim if the father is Muslim and by intermarrying a Jewish women, the child could not legally be considered Jewish or they would become an apostate,Syrian Jews stuck very close together and kept that tradition. I don't agree with converts being stuck with Avraham Avinu as a last name, shouldn't be reminded imo
Even though I'm not convinced that racism is the main reason - I agree that it can easily be perceived that way. This is enough reason for rabbis and communities to change their approach. If a rabbi wants to make conversion more difficult than Talmudic law ALLOWS, fine. I can't force you to be a more observant Jew...
but YOU CAN DO IT IN A MORE CONSIDERATE MANNER.
While informing the potential convert that conversion is difficult, express concern for him...
...let him know how G-d's Torah can enrich his life even before officially joining the people of Israel. AT LEAST TEACH HIM THE LAWS OF NOAH! (Is the average community rabbi familiar with the laws of Noah? - my experience has already lead me to my opinion on that)
I can understand how in certain countries rabbis perhaps should feel fearful about being publically open to converting people, but balance it out with public concern for the non-Jewish community....
@omedyashar ,why should he do any thing in a more considerate manor,If apply your standard to the very same people who reject converts or people from entering a synagogue based on the non-jewishness is a travesty,it meerly show that some forms of judaism are still reactionary to certain people,judaism was never ment to be a reactionary movement based on the disengagement of its christian sister,moreover it just ephasizes the false dichotomy the judaism is forced to accept.
I'm not convinced that racism is the main reason. Prejudice perhaps. And many Orthodox Rabbis have the misconception that they are SUPPOSED to reject
converts or make the conversion process difficult.
How many people reading this comment have actually looked up the source texts on how a potential convert is supposed to be treated? I'm sure you'll be suprised if you look up the sources.
I personally think the main reason is ignorance of the law, and 2ndly because of fear.
Actually the Rabbi of my shul today on Shabb-t talked about this. He did mention the Syrian community and applauded them (he's not Syrian) . He said that converts are allowed to marry other converts and mamzerim, but a regular Jew shouldn't marry a convert, especially if he's a Kohen. And to the comment that if someone converts he or she always had a Jewish soul isn't accurate and correct.
That is your opinion, and it comes from the Syrian community, and their particular interpretation of Kabbalah. It is based mostly on their own negative experiences, and they should not generalize to all people or all converts in all generations.
The Jews of Aleppo created a wonderful work which was referenced by the Rambam himself, so it is a source of pride for them. But they have allowed that to go to their head, in my opinion, which has created some stunningly stupid results.
No offense to you personally or to all jews as my grandmother was Jewish....but you said in other videos that the Torah and Talmud has certain parts that jew haters use against Jews but that Jews don't feel that way....However, right here your telling us they have armed guards keeping people out......you say the purpose for jew is to be light...but that is darkness..this sounds like its more pandemic in the jewish community than it is an aberation.....I dunno, any words on that? thank you sir...
The majority of the children of Israel in modern times are fairly liberal, and it is relatively easy to convert to their forms of 'Judaism.' But the problem is that their forms of Judaism are modern inventions made to suit the comforts of a more morally "liberated" society.
The case is different with more traditional (orthodox) communities. Conversion to these communities is difficult, but not impossible. MOST will accept converts, but they don't often make it easy.
@omedyashar Religion is of men...sorry, this sounds like the worse kind of racism.....maybe thats why the Hitler thing happened due to the Jews views and opinions and treatment of "gentiles"I dunno, I don't think thats good.....on either side..never is it good to kill or to exclude.. but the biggest sin leading to all the others is thinking your better...or that your way is "THE" way.hitler thought that.....Jim Jones thought that... the muslims think that. the xtians n jews to. a black light u r
the majority of Jews in Germany were LIBERAL non-Orthodox Jews. They were the MOST open and accepting of all Jews, and were FAR from the opinion that their way is the only way.
In fact, UNLIKE Christianity and Islam, virtually ALL ORTHODOX JEWS (and all non-Orthodox Jews) do NOT think that a person must be Jewish to have eternal life / go to 'heaven.'
Ignorance is the worst; racism and baseless hatred are just the results of it.
@omedyashar ...My words are not directed at you or anyone in particular just the ones you spoke of .....whoever they are........In general though if a religion teaches concepts whether all members of that religion accept it or not .generally most will associate them all as one entity and that was my only point.. If Judaism got a bad rep over the years for such teachings it might have led to the hatred of Hittler?Whether it was beliefs of all Jews or not. I don't have the answers.Just questions
@addan76 Nope. Most Jews aren't descendants of converts. I believe you are referring to the Kazars. The Kazar nobility became Jewish, but in the empire their was freedom of religion and their were both Jews, (some converts to Jews), cristians, and muslims.
@addan76 Your an antisemitic pig. Why do you have to spell Askenazim like that? Anyway no the Rabbi wasn't Askenazi, he is Sefardi (technically Bukharian which is kind of its own group, but more Sefardi leaning).
Also especially in America their is a lot of problems with assimilation. The syrian community is very zealous in stopping it, and they are tight nit and not as open to the outside as the Askenazim. The result is FAR less assimilation and intermarriage. (It doesn't mean I agree with them 100% but I do understand, but do believe that Jews should marry Jews of all backgrounds- Syrian, Askenaz, Bukharian, Persian, etc. Also True, sincerely devoted converts).
Syrian community, with all due respect, is misguided about this and in error; they need to come back to normal Jewish praxis and stop their racist and anti-Jewish behavior. They are out on a limb. One of my former neighbors who was halabi attacked my house and broke a window out, so I have no more patience for their stupid behavior or their stupid rabbis. They are wrong, period.
@72Yonatan Why would someone attack your house? Anyway the action of 1 person doesn't apply to the whole community. Generally from what I and other's see the Syrian community is a very nice community. Very charitable, but also close to their own.
Actually with your example Avraham Yitzhak and Yakov did reject her and you see the outcome of Timna. Her descendant was Amalek (an evil nation). If she would be part of the nation then we would have amalek in our midst G-D forbid. Even though Avraham was embracing its obvious he say great negativity in her (and her future offspring). Also Avraham rejected his own servent's daughter for Yitzhak.
I believe Syrian Jews do accept converts but just dont marry with them. They see that their have been many problems with conversions where after a failed relationship the convert went back to their old non-Jewish ways soo they decided to not deal with it any longer. (But whatever, they also said not to mary Bukharian Jews (my community) because of some problems their).
Rabbi it is one thing to try to convert goyim. I think you went a little too far this time. I dont believe it is really this difficult to convert. I myself was born a jew. But I have met many people who have converted in the past three years. If they arent accepted in a local community they can move to teanack, monsey, boro park, willaimsbug, Lakewood, or miami beach where I am. You know they are going through is a test. The test is very difficult. Sometimes it means moving to another state.
It is one thing to discourage another from conversion; it is quite a different matter to totally reject a person without any ulterior motive from becoming a Jew. This is not a test, rather it is discrimination. Remember that King David, Melekh haMoshiach, was the grandson of a most righteous convert: Ruth the Moabitess.
@72Yonatan It is a mitzvah to discourage a convert to see if he is really serious. I have nothing against converts. I love all jews. But the whole idea of discrimination is nonsense. I have met many true converts and they do not feel discriminated against nor do I want to seperate them. I probably wouldnt want to marry one. But all converts are welcomed in to the community. This Idea of racism Rabbi Asher points in the video is ridiculus. What racism? There are many different races converting.
It is one thing to discourage a convert in order to test his resolve to convert; it is quite another matter to forbid conversion. For a regular Jew, he will accept the negative consequences of this behavior, however, since the convert already HAS a Jewish neshumah, or he or she would not even be seeking conversion in the first place. Halabi Jews are confused about this, since they have decided to buck the system and refuse to convert or to accept converts.
The relevant sentence in the English language summary is "no male or female member of our community has the right to intermarry with non-Jews; this law covers conversions which we consider to be fictitious and valueless". In the 1946 "Clarification" a comma appears after the word "conversions", which makes it appear that all conversions are "fictitious and valueless", though this understanding is not uncontested, and there is no equivalent change in the Hebrew text.
As a jew from latin america (Brazil) I must tell you something. The reason why not anyone can enter in a synagogue there is ONLY because of security issues. Try to become more informed about neo nazism in Latin America and the deficient Police and deficient prison system, which encourage crime. It will be a chilul ashem if you don't post a video correcting what you said, and saying the truth: that the shuls in latin america are not open to everybody just because of security purposes ONLY.
fniski 3 days ago
@fniski This is not true, I've been to latin america many times and the policy is that non Jews are not allowed to enter a synagogue even if they meet with the rabbi before hand.. In many places many arent even allowed to purchase kosher food... If it was just security just frisk them and let them in..
geoasher 3 days ago
@geoasher
This is not true in Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay. If you do know someone from the shul, you are welcome to enter.
fniski 3 days ago
I dont a gree that the reason is racism. You don't know that most converts to judaism today are fake and thats why the cummonuity has to very carefull with conversions. Its the same case with those who ask for Sedaqa who are crooks. The crooks save our lives becuase if they didn't exist we would have no excuse for not givign charity.
irationalpie 1 month ago
@irationalpie According to halakhà,you do NOT have the right to judge converts' sincerity;unless of course you are part of the beth din which is examining them BEFORE conversion.
333iubelo 1 month ago
this is the biggest chilul hashem in the world , its wrong what he is doing , he is the biggest racist !
according to Jewish law , it says that you are not allowed to encourage conversing , it is against the Torah to allow non Jews into Judaism without them proving their love to Torah , practicing the Torah fully (and not like this guy says ) , what this guy is saying is to become reform and to attack Judaism , shame on him !!
iamproudtobeajew 2 months ago
@iamproudtobeajew please show me where it says its not allowed to encourage conversion
geoasher 2 months ago
@iamproudtobeajew I wonder if you know the meaning of chillul ha-Shem.....
333iubelo 1 month ago
@333iubelo i am a religious Jew !
iamproudtobeajew 1 month ago
@iamproudtobeajew So you might be able to explain why you claim he is a racist and what is wrong with his ahavat Torah.....
333iubelo 1 month ago
@333iubelo what he is doing is chilul hashem bepharhesya , basicaly he is calling some jews not friendly , well i agree with what he says , it shouldnt be said or the whole world to see because when the world hears jews they think all of them !
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isnt the torah the revamped version of maat law ? or borrow cant say copy cause its a word that make no sense to ppl who steal lol
andrefleming77 5 months ago
I'm sorry, but your words sound dangerous. You are basically calling for a Piloog, a rift in the Jewish nation. While honest converts may be zealous, there should be strict screaning for those with hidden interests. And while the process of conversion isn't specified in the Bible, so is the seremony of Biyoom and Halitza and even weddings. Is it really all lies? We are trying our best, although it may not be perfect. Personally, I know of several converts.
AzizaLaBelle 5 months ago
Timna was blocked from conversion by God inspired men. They knew the reason why, which may be hidden from us. Also, her name itself indicates that she will be blocked: Timna, from the verb M.N.A (Mem, Nun, Ain)
AzizaLaBelle 5 months ago
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pakijew4 6 months ago
This is the hardest time in recorded history to convert. The bat shit crazies are running the show currently.
JewishJedi1 7 months ago
I don't see the problem here? It's not unusual for rabbis not to recognize conversions done by other rabbis. The orthodoxy does it all the time. Move on, you do not have an argument here.
JewishJedi1 7 months ago
the torah does not say anything about conversions. what it speaks of is intermarraige. so, this is not racism otherwise there would be no intermarraige either.
basically, it says only after 4 generations is the descendant of a foreigner to be considered an israelite. if people could convert, then this would make this entire section of the torah irrelevant.
the torah also says tht foreigners can live amongst the israelites if they agree to obey the laws, but that does not make them israelites
drorbenami 7 months ago
@drorbenami the Talmud speaks on it however.
JewishJedi1 7 months ago
@JewishJedi1 ...Possibly so, but I don't accept the Talmud as the final authority. If the Torah mentioned a procedure and then the Talmud expanded on it, maybe that would make sense. But the Talmud just cannot unilaterally introduce the subject of conversions when it is not even mentioned in the Torah.
The Chabadniks say that the 1st conversion was performed by Moses before he went up to Mount Sinai, but then people also say the Talmud says Osneath was converted by Joseph 400 years earlier !
drorbenami 7 months ago
@drorbenami I agree that it should not be. leave no doubt, it's a creation of man's. However, I cannot find any actual steps for conversion in the Torah.
JewishJedi1 7 months ago
@JewishJedi1 ..that is because there are no procedures. If a person can convert in one or two years, then why would anyone go thru the inter-marraige procedure which takes at least 80 years and only applies to the 4th generation. In other words: a Greek man who marries a Jewish woman, is NEVER a Jew. His children aren't Jews, his grandchildren aren't Jews !!! But, what the rabbis are teaching is that "if you do what they say" you can be a Jew in 24 months or less.....
drorbenami 7 months ago
@drorbenami Agree!
JewishJedi1 7 months ago
@drorbenami ....in same way torah doesnt discourage conversion to judaism......
pakijew4 6 months ago 17
@pakijew4 ...of course it discourages conversion. it is clearly written that one may not add to or take away from the torah. There is no such thing as conversion in Judaism. The rabbis and the Maccabees made the whole thing up about 300 B.C. In other words, they added to the law.
The Israelites are called "God's Chosen People". What the rabbis are doing is saying "Jews are our chosen people. If you do exactly what we say for 12, 16 or 20 months, depending on the rabbi, then you are a Jew."
drorbenami 6 months ago
@drorbenami .........When a proselyte comes to be converted, one receives him with an open hand so as to bring him under the wings of the Divine Presence." (Leviticus Rabbah 2:9) ...then this should,nt been mentioned i guess..
pakijew4 6 months ago
@pakijew4 ...you don't know the difference between the torah and the midrash ? The Leviticus Rabbah you quoted is written by men,,,,it is not considered the word of God.
There is not one convert listed in any of the genealogies of the torah. there is not a single conversion mentioned . everyone says osneath , zipporah, ruth, the mother of absalom, the mother of king rehobaum,, all converted, but nowhere is it mentioned that they converted and nowhere is a procedure given. it is all lies
drorbenami 6 months ago
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ShlomoHaAvinoo 5 months ago
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@drorbenami כִּי יְרַחֵם יְהוָה אֶת יַעֲקֹב וּבָחַר עוֹד
בְּיִשְׂרָאֵל וְהִנִּיחָם עַל אַדְמָתָם | וְנִלְוָה
הַגֵּר עֲלֵיהֶם וְנִסְפְּחוּ עַל בֵּית יַעֲקֹב:( (ישעיהו יד:
When YHWH has mercy on Jacob and
again chooses Israel, he shall place them on
their land and the sojourner (ger גֵּר ) shall
join himself to them and they shall add
themselves on to the House of Jacob.
(Isaiah 14:1)
ShlomoHaAvinoo 5 months ago
@drorbenami מג) וַיֹּאמֶר יְהוָה אֶל מֹשֶׁה וְאַהֲרֹן
זֹאת חֻקַּת הַפָּסַח | כָּל בֶּן נֵכָר לֹא
יֹאכַל בּוֹ... (מה) תּוֹשָׁב וְשָׂכִיר לֹא
יֹאכַל בּוֹ:... (מז) כָּל עֲדַת יִשְׂרָאֵל
יַעֲשׂוּ אֹתוֹ: (מח) וְכִי יָגוּר אִתְּךָ גֵּר
וְעָשָׂה פֶסַח לַיהוָה הִמּוֹל לוֹ כָל זָכָר
וְאָז יִקְרַב לַעֲשֹׂתוֹ וְהָיָה כְּאֶזְרַח הָאָרֶץ
| וְכָל עָרֵל לֹא יֹאכַל בּוֹ: (מט) תּוֹרָה
אַחַת יִהְיֶה לָאֶזְרָח | וְלַגֵּר הַגָּר
בְּתוֹכְכֶם: (שמות יב:מג--מט)
ShlomoHaAvinoo 5 months ago
@drorbenami 3) And YHWH said to Moshe and
Aharon, This is the statute of the Passover
[sacrifice]. No Gentile (ben-nechar (בֶּן נֵכָר
may eat of it... (45) A resident (toshav
תּוֹשָׁב ) and a hired worker (sachir (שָׂכִיר
may not eat of it... (47)
ShlomoHaAvinoo 5 months ago
@drorbenami The entire
congregation of Israel must do it. (48)
When a stranger (ger גֵּר ) sojourns among
you and will keep the Passover to YHWH,
you must circumcise all him males and
then may approach to do it and he shall
become as a native-born (ezrach אֶזְרַח ) of
the land, but no uncircumcised may eat of
it. So torah Proves conversion.
ShlomoHaAvinoo 5 months ago
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drorbenami 5 months ago
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@ShlomoHaAvinoo ....he shall be come as a native born, but he is not as israelite. Just because a person is circumcized does not make him an isralite. otherwise Ishamel would be an israelite..all of Abrahams servants were circumcized but the covenant only passed thru Isaac.
There are no genealogies for Abrahams servants and there are no genealogies for the strangers who left egypt. also it they converted , to which tribe do they belong? see part 2
drorbenami 5 months ago
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drorbenami 5 months ago
@ShlomoHaAvinoo continued... you agree that a person can be an israelite thru intermarraige after 4 generations. that is clearly written....so, if I had a choice to convert and "immediately" become an israelite, and my children who be considered isralites and my grand children would be israelites , then why would I even consider the intermarraige option ? by intermarraige I am not going to be an israelite, my children are not, nor are my grandchildren....why would i do it if I had an option ?
drorbenami 5 months ago
@drorbenami Only Certain Tribes had to Wait until the 3rd Generation until they could do that.Most o these peoples(except the Egyptian)are Wiped out anyway.
Today However most converts Can Immediately integrate.
ShlomoHaAvinoo 5 months ago
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drorbenami 5 months ago
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@ShlomoHaAvinoo you are wrong....only egyptians could intermarry in 3 generations....everyone else had to wait 4 generations....your point about being wiped out is stupid....they were not wiped out ...only those people over the age of 20 were killed....it is written....again, you say there were many converts....name one male convert and list his descendants....all the converts everyone speaks about are woman....they were not converts they were the property of their husbands
drorbenami 5 months ago
@ShlomoHaAvinoo .....if you would just think for a moment instead of grasping at straws, Esau was circumcised wasn't he ? He was "jewish enough in his behaviour that Isaac was willing to bless him and indeed he thought that he had blessed him. furthermore, esau was described as the favorite of isaac...so with all that why isn't in considered Jewish and his descendants jewish? Israel is God's chosen people, they are not just anybody off the street who some rabbi decides to convert.....
drorbenami 5 months ago
@drorbenami ''he shall
become as a native-born (ezrach אֶזְרַח ) of
the land''Did you not read the Verses Closely? It Talks of joining Jacob.According to Judges The Isralties mixed in With the Canenites so today they Would be NOT thru the Father.
it si Impossible to know a True paternal son of Ya'akv because of the heavy intermrige between canen(see Chronicles ).
ShlomoHaAvinoo 5 months ago
@ShlomoHaAvinoo ....i read what it says but I don't agree with you interpretation....furthermore, the karaites don't usually perform conversions, so they obviously don't agree either,,,,,
according to what you are saying we are not sure if King David was Jewish ? It is not forbidden to intermarry, the law says that israelites could marry canaanite virgins, does it not ? King Ahab married Jezebel didn't he? are you saying that 2 of the kings of Israel were not Jewish ?
drorbenami 5 months ago
@drorbenami Tell Me About Uriyah the Hittite?
ShlomoHaAvinoo 5 months ago
@ShlomoHaAvinoo what's to tell? it says he was a hittite doesn't it ? He was a foreigner in the service of David. and he was n't the only one...I firget the name but during the war with absalom David told someone to go home because he wasn't jewish, but the man refused...are you seriously trying to say that Urioah the hittite was a convert ?
drorbenami 5 months ago
@ShlomoHaAvinoo ....you know there is something new in Israel. it is called the books of the law,a dnthese are the 1st 5 books of the old testaement. it is also called the torah, perhaps you have heard of it.???
Give the name of one male convert in the books of the law. tell me who converted him and what were the name of his children...don't speak about messianic times and what will happened....show me where it is written in the books of the law....
drorbenami 5 months ago
@drorbenami also Read (Isaiah
56:3–8)(Let not the son of the Gentile (bennechar
בֶּן נֵכָר ) who joins himself to YHWH
say, “YHWH has surely separated me from
his people
ShlomoHaAvinoo 5 months ago
Is this a issue in the U.K.?
Arabian5347 1 year ago
I completely understand how Amalek could be born from Timnah. Timnah who was a sincere hopeful convert, was turned down IN ERROR by Abraham, Isaac, and Yaakov. Her anger and her hatred is righteous and true for those who refused to allow her to come home where her soul belongs. From that hatred and anger Amalek was born, and this should be a lesson to the RABBIS who refuse to allow sincere converts to enter in. They hold the keys but will not open the doors, and there is a special hell for them.
SarahRachel59 1 year ago
why do you jews circumcise? just curious I've always wondered. i mean as far as I know its not just for health or anything or else it wouldn't be enforced right.
ZombieNoobs 1 year ago
@ZombieNoobs ...it is a physical sign that the land of Israel has been promised to the children of Israel. an agreement was made and to show they accepted the terms of the agreement the Israelites must circumcise themselves. in addition to this, Ishamel, the father of the arabs, was promised 12 princes if he accepted the terms of the same agreement. Hence the fact that till this very day arabs and most muslims circumcise themselves proves that this agreement was made and Israel is not arab land
drorbenami 5 months ago
Hello geoasher,
Thank you so much for making such an amazing video! I just wanted to say that what you said about Syrian synagogues/ Syrian Jew is very true.
I am not a convert myself but my father is not Jewish (he's Muslim) and I was raised as a Muslim. My mother is Jewish. I became interested in Judaism a few years ago and decided to learn more...I turned to my mother's family for support as it wasn't exactly a smooth ride. My mother's family is part Syrian. I wasn't welcome at all :(
yokheved87 1 year ago
So its not just converts that receive this sort of treatment (from Syrians and other Jews), its people exploring their Jewish heritage for the first time as well. and it can be very mentally damaging unfortunately. It helps to know that I'm not the only that went through this.
Peace
Yokheved
yokheved87 1 year ago
Thank you so much for this video. As a convert, there is no video on youtube that I appreciate more than this one. For those of us who found Xianity polytheistic, conversion to Judaism allows us to love G-d alone.
dvkuth 1 year ago
It's surprising to learn that the highest level of Rh- in any region of the world is in the Karaites people of Iraq with 53 per cent of the Rh-negative Cde complex. 50% of the Basque population is Rh-negative. The next highest levels are in Wales and Scotland. The Karaites are actually a Jewish sect that rarely inter marry outside their own blood lines.
greenmagoos 1 year ago
You better not be a gentile pal.
What's really surprising is that the "Berbers" that travel freely throughout the Middle East are 35% Rh-Negative. Some sources say that the "Berbers" are "European" and that they originated on the border of Syria and Iraq about 2,000 BC. Some sources say that the ancient Norsemen are the "Seabourne" Berbers.
greenmagoos 1 year ago
did you cut your Payot? :(
KingOystar 1 year ago
@KingOystar no they are in my Kippa
geoasher023 1 year ago
And by the way I don't necessarily agree with the rule that the Syrian community has made (Don't have a definite opinion/know all the facts, etc.) BUT I have written to show some of the REASONS for making it. And also a little of their perspective.
Geoasher23's comment of "Racism" I believe is wrong and shows ignorance of the situation.Facts are that this is a recent thing made in America specifically.I don't believe Syrian Jews view Americans lower then Arabs.
extazy17 1 year ago
Anyway with the Syrian community things are more complicated. Why not try to understand THEIR perspective? Facts are that in the U.S.A. starting with Askenazim their were many "conversions" done that had its main reason of falling in "love". Then Syrians came to the U.S. Their were many instances where some guys would go to clubs and meet different non-Jewish women....
extazy17 1 year ago
@extazy17 These women seeing that they have $ also agreed to go through with "converting". This would happen often resulting in many fake people converting, and most of all resulting in intermarriage and non-Jewish children being born to Syrian Jewish men). The Syrian community said enough is enough. We don't allow our children to marry even converts becuase of the high rate of fake conversions. If one does soo, they can but they wont be part of the community. (Wont get support, etc.)
extazy17 1 year ago
9I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
86mjones 1 year ago
@86mjones why are you quoting from the nt? is there a reason why??
xxGigi08xx 1 year ago
@86mjones Yeah that would apply to those Gentiles today who call themselves Messianic "Jews" when in fact they are not born of a Jewish mother, didnt convert to Judaism through any Jewish branch, have no interest in being real Jews, but are instead Fundamentalist Christians who think their pagan new testament replaces God's Torah, and they call themselves "Jews". They are not Jews. Messianic "Judaism" was begun by Baptists and is not any branch of Judaism whatsoever. Fits your quote perfectly.
SarahRachel59 1 year ago
I am in awe of my husband's tenacity and patience in converting to Judaism via the Orthodox Bet Dein in our community, a group of otherwise kind rabbis who seem to delight in torturing potential converts and making them cry. And I am furious with the current anti-convert sentiment amongst the rabbinate in Israel particularly. Keep up the good work!
tziporrasimcha 1 year ago 6
@tziporrasimcha Non-Jews who marry Jewish women and then want to convert in order to be accepted or to stay with them have a big problem. To begin with a Jewish man or women should not be marrying a non-Jew. With that then as in your situation, the marriage is not a "marriage" as defined by Jewish law and every time they are together they are violating G-D's law. How can someone want to be a SINCERE convert while breaking Jewish law? ( I understand the Rabbi's who wouldn't want this individual
extazy17 1 year ago
@extazy17 What about non-Jews who marry non-religious Jewish women and then TOGETHER the couple that Torah observant Judaism is the truth? It's not just one couple that has this problem, but many! And yes, the situation was terribly difficult - to come to the conclusion that you are violating G-d's laws by being together but not having a better solution than to wade through the conversion process. You have no idea. It is why I am now so outspoken against intermarriage.
tziporrasimcha 1 year ago
@tziporrasimcha I do understand the situation, but I am not a Rabbi, nor do I know the case to say anything specific. People should contact a good Orthodox Rabbi (preferably a Rabbinic court) who deals with these types of issues and also then better someone who knows and is in contact with the couple or at least one of the people.
extazy17 1 year ago
Nice video, I won't disagree with you, Know where you are coming from. My dad is Syrian Jew and I agree that they are protective about intermarriage. It is because a child is considered Muslim if the father is Muslim and by intermarrying a Jewish women, the child could not legally be considered Jewish or they would become an apostate,Syrian Jews stuck very close together and kept that tradition. I don't agree with converts being stuck with Avraham Avinu as a last name, shouldn't be reminded imo
PILMAN 1 year ago 2
Yosef:
So all the fuss could have been due to a simple error of grammar? What does the Hebrew text state?
72Yonatan 1 year ago
Even though I'm not convinced that racism is the main reason - I agree that it can easily be perceived that way. This is enough reason for rabbis and communities to change their approach. If a rabbi wants to make conversion more difficult than Talmudic law ALLOWS, fine. I can't force you to be a more observant Jew...
but YOU CAN DO IT IN A MORE CONSIDERATE MANNER.
While informing the potential convert that conversion is difficult, express concern for him...
omedyashar 1 year ago
...let him know how G-d's Torah can enrich his life even before officially joining the people of Israel. AT LEAST TEACH HIM THE LAWS OF NOAH! (Is the average community rabbi familiar with the laws of Noah? - my experience has already lead me to my opinion on that)
I can understand how in certain countries rabbis perhaps should feel fearful about being publically open to converting people, but balance it out with public concern for the non-Jewish community....
omedyashar 1 year ago
...they could DEFINITELY use an overhall in their public relations methods.
omedyashar 1 year ago
@omedyashar ,why should he do any thing in a more considerate manor,If apply your standard to the very same people who reject converts or people from entering a synagogue based on the non-jewishness is a travesty,it meerly show that some forms of judaism are still reactionary to certain people,judaism was never ment to be a reactionary movement based on the disengagement of its christian sister,moreover it just ephasizes the false dichotomy the judaism is forced to accept.
wowheed 1 year ago
I'm not convinced that racism is the main reason. Prejudice perhaps. And many Orthodox Rabbis have the misconception that they are SUPPOSED to reject
converts or make the conversion process difficult.
How many people reading this comment have actually looked up the source texts on how a potential convert is supposed to be treated? I'm sure you'll be suprised if you look up the sources.
I personally think the main reason is ignorance of the law, and 2ndly because of fear.
omedyashar 1 year ago
Nicely said Rabbi!
yingdiskette 1 year ago
Actually the Rabbi of my shul today on Shabb-t talked about this. He did mention the Syrian community and applauded them (he's not Syrian) . He said that converts are allowed to marry other converts and mamzerim, but a regular Jew shouldn't marry a convert, especially if he's a Kohen. And to the comment that if someone converts he or she always had a Jewish soul isn't accurate and correct.
extazy17 1 year ago
@extazy17
And what sources did he bring for his claims?
omedyashar 1 year ago
@omedyashar Ill try to ask him next time I see him Bli Neder.
extazy17 1 year ago
@extazy17
That is your opinion, and it comes from the Syrian community, and their particular interpretation of Kabbalah. It is based mostly on their own negative experiences, and they should not generalize to all people or all converts in all generations.
The Jews of Aleppo created a wonderful work which was referenced by the Rambam himself, so it is a source of pride for them. But they have allowed that to go to their head, in my opinion, which has created some stunningly stupid results.
72Yonatan 1 year ago
No offense to you personally or to all jews as my grandmother was Jewish....but you said in other videos that the Torah and Talmud has certain parts that jew haters use against Jews but that Jews don't feel that way....However, right here your telling us they have armed guards keeping people out......you say the purpose for jew is to be light...but that is darkness..this sounds like its more pandemic in the jewish community than it is an aberation.....I dunno, any words on that? thank you sir...
metaljazzblues23 1 year ago
@metaljazzblues23
The majority of the children of Israel in modern times are fairly liberal, and it is relatively easy to convert to their forms of 'Judaism.' But the problem is that their forms of Judaism are modern inventions made to suit the comforts of a more morally "liberated" society.
The case is different with more traditional (orthodox) communities. Conversion to these communities is difficult, but not impossible. MOST will accept converts, but they don't often make it easy.
omedyashar 1 year ago
@omedyashar Religion is of men...sorry, this sounds like the worse kind of racism.....maybe thats why the Hitler thing happened due to the Jews views and opinions and treatment of "gentiles"I dunno, I don't think thats good.....on either side..never is it good to kill or to exclude.. but the biggest sin leading to all the others is thinking your better...or that your way is "THE" way.hitler thought that.....Jim Jones thought that... the muslims think that. the xtians n jews to. a black light u r
metaljazzblues23 1 year ago
@metaljazzblues23
the majority of Jews in Germany were LIBERAL non-Orthodox Jews. They were the MOST open and accepting of all Jews, and were FAR from the opinion that their way is the only way.
In fact, UNLIKE Christianity and Islam, virtually ALL ORTHODOX JEWS (and all non-Orthodox Jews) do NOT think that a person must be Jewish to have eternal life / go to 'heaven.'
Ignorance is the worst; racism and baseless hatred are just the results of it.
omedyashar 1 year ago
@omedyashar ...My words are not directed at you or anyone in particular just the ones you spoke of .....whoever they are........In general though if a religion teaches concepts whether all members of that religion accept it or not .generally most will associate them all as one entity and that was my only point.. If Judaism got a bad rep over the years for such teachings it might have led to the hatred of Hittler?Whether it was beliefs of all Jews or not. I don't have the answers.Just questions
metaljazzblues23 1 year ago
@omedyashar ,cont,its either a light unto the gentiles or not!
wowheed 1 year ago
izen't all jew conversion?
the 90%of jew are ashka-nazi and spanish one and all of tham are turk people
so why rabbi no allowed the others what are thay haiding for
addan76 1 year ago
@addan76 Nope. Most Jews aren't descendants of converts. I believe you are referring to the Kazars. The Kazar nobility became Jewish, but in the empire their was freedom of religion and their were both Jews, (some converts to Jews), cristians, and muslims.
extazy17 1 year ago
@extazy17 who are thay ashka-nazi and sephardic?
addan76 1 year ago
@addan76 Your an antisemitic pig. Why do you have to spell Askenazim like that? Anyway no the Rabbi wasn't Askenazi, he is Sefardi (technically Bukharian which is kind of its own group, but more Sefardi leaning).
extazy17 1 year ago
Also especially in America their is a lot of problems with assimilation. The syrian community is very zealous in stopping it, and they are tight nit and not as open to the outside as the Askenazim. The result is FAR less assimilation and intermarriage. (It doesn't mean I agree with them 100% but I do understand, but do believe that Jews should marry Jews of all backgrounds- Syrian, Askenaz, Bukharian, Persian, etc. Also True, sincerely devoted converts).
extazy17 1 year ago
@extazy17
Syrian community, with all due respect, is misguided about this and in error; they need to come back to normal Jewish praxis and stop their racist and anti-Jewish behavior. They are out on a limb. One of my former neighbors who was halabi attacked my house and broke a window out, so I have no more patience for their stupid behavior or their stupid rabbis. They are wrong, period.
72Yonatan 1 year ago
@72Yonatan Why would someone attack your house? Anyway the action of 1 person doesn't apply to the whole community. Generally from what I and other's see the Syrian community is a very nice community. Very charitable, but also close to their own.
extazy17 1 year ago
Actually with your example Avraham Yitzhak and Yakov did reject her and you see the outcome of Timna. Her descendant was Amalek (an evil nation). If she would be part of the nation then we would have amalek in our midst G-D forbid. Even though Avraham was embracing its obvious he say great negativity in her (and her future offspring). Also Avraham rejected his own servent's daughter for Yitzhak.
extazy17 1 year ago
I believe Syrian Jews do accept converts but just dont marry with them. They see that their have been many problems with conversions where after a failed relationship the convert went back to their old non-Jewish ways soo they decided to not deal with it any longer. (But whatever, they also said not to mary Bukharian Jews (my community) because of some problems their).
extazy17 1 year ago
Asher Koach! Robah Todah!
You are a Mench and a blessing to Judaism. Let me know where to donate to your shul, Rabbi.
B'shalom
K.K.
Kittenkattan 1 year ago
A Bet Din does not MAKE Jews but a Bet Din REVEALS jews! A goy is a goy and a jew is a jew! If someone converts, he/she had always a jewish soul!
kanaiboded 1 year ago 2
@kanaiboded Good point!
333iubelo 3 weeks ago
Thank you Asher, I for one appreciate your opinion and respect it. But also I am certain that you meant no disrespect for anyone.
Airman1121 1 year ago
Syrian Jews are not keeping Jewish law, since our Halakha accepts sincere converts.
72Yonatan 1 year ago 3
Rabbi it is one thing to try to convert goyim. I think you went a little too far this time. I dont believe it is really this difficult to convert. I myself was born a jew. But I have met many people who have converted in the past three years. If they arent accepted in a local community they can move to teanack, monsey, boro park, willaimsbug, Lakewood, or miami beach where I am. You know they are going through is a test. The test is very difficult. Sometimes it means moving to another state.
salobeans 1 year ago
@salobeans
or another country
drbable1 1 year ago
@salobeans
It is one thing to discourage another from conversion; it is quite a different matter to totally reject a person without any ulterior motive from becoming a Jew. This is not a test, rather it is discrimination. Remember that King David, Melekh haMoshiach, was the grandson of a most righteous convert: Ruth the Moabitess.
72Yonatan 1 year ago 3
@72Yonatan It is a mitzvah to discourage a convert to see if he is really serious. I have nothing against converts. I love all jews. But the whole idea of discrimination is nonsense. I have met many true converts and they do not feel discriminated against nor do I want to seperate them. I probably wouldnt want to marry one. But all converts are welcomed in to the community. This Idea of racism Rabbi Asher points in the video is ridiculus. What racism? There are many different races converting.
salobeans 1 year ago
@salobeans
It is one thing to discourage a convert in order to test his resolve to convert; it is quite another matter to forbid conversion. For a regular Jew, he will accept the negative consequences of this behavior, however, since the convert already HAS a Jewish neshumah, or he or she would not even be seeking conversion in the first place. Halabi Jews are confused about this, since they have decided to buck the system and refuse to convert or to accept converts.
72Yonatan 1 year ago
@72Yonatan
The relevant sentence in the English language summary is "no male or female member of our community has the right to intermarry with non-Jews; this law covers conversions which we consider to be fictitious and valueless". In the 1946 "Clarification" a comma appears after the word "conversions", which makes it appear that all conversions are "fictitious and valueless", though this understanding is not uncontested, and there is no equivalent change in the Hebrew text.
omedyashar 1 year ago
@omedyashar
...That's from the edict on the ban by the Syrian Jewish community. You can find it on the Wiki article on Syrian Jews.
omedyashar 1 year ago