It is not against the law, haven't you ever seen those presses in tourist places that allow you to insert a penny and it makes it into an emblem with their logo on it?
That's like saying if you take a dollar out of your wallet and burn it, the feds will arrest you! It's your money and you can do as you please as long as you don't put it back into circulation.
U.S. Code Title 18, Chapter 17, Section 331 is the actual statute. But, it's like you said, as long as you don't try to use them as legitimate currency, it's ok. :)
Your voltage is waaay ti high for the solution you are using. If you dont have enough copper ions in the solution for the volatge you will get a lot of black stuff. I used only 1.5 volts from an AA. Even 12 volts is too much for this solution. You also may have too much salt in your solution making it too conductive. You should not be getting much if any fizzing or bubbles.
can you please explaine how you make the copper and nickel plating solition you use . Do you have any txt doc for some of us explaing how things are done for use please ty
Whenever i do this my quater becomes black. And when you said you used vinegar copper and a pinch of salt what goes on the negative end when you are making the solution? I would like to know what i am doing wrong thankyou and great video!! :D
Thanks for the video! I attempted to plate some 304 stainless steel using this method, and had no luck at all using a white vinegar solution. The solution worked fine for other metals.
After a little research, I tried using a warm water and baking soda mixture and it works a bit better for stainless steel. It takes a little longer, but actually sticks and holds up to light polishing.
WAIT MAN can i so called copper plate a knife so resist rusting cause i gota pocket knife in tired of oiling and what kind of liquid holding system should i use and can i posibly use silver lol
Awesome Video And Job i was wondering if you knew if i could use scrap copper wire like from my house to electroplate? also is there any other solutions i can use besides vinegar? Thank you So Much Awesome Quarters
hi cool way of plating a few weeks a go i got profehsinal plating liqued from my uncle his jobs plating i have dip 40 asid copper and bright nickle i can plate my thing at most 20 sec i use 3 volt but a megga strong current
Thanks a lot... was about 7 years old at the time, pretty dam good if you ask me. Now yes I do have a muh better camera. Cant always have wat you want (atleast I cant)
@Bobensen I can't get this to work with aluminum. I'm able to plate quarters and other things, not aluminum. A film develops on the aluminum that can be wiped off, leaving the aluminum clean and platting free. What am I doing wrong? Thx.
@Bobensen I can't get this to work with aluminum. I'm able to plate quarters and other things, not aluminum. A film develops on the aluminum that can be wiped off, leaving the aluminum clean and platting free. What am I doing wrong? Thx.
@EnAimBoy I tried, but aluminum is almost entirely waste of time, because it is continuously being displaced. Copper ions hit the aluminum and cause displacement faster than the power supply can replace the aluminium's electrons and the aluminium breaks up into free floating ions.
i'm thinking about plating a paintball marker, the longest part is the barrel, a 14 inch tube, would i need to increase the voltage or use some more AA. could i use pvc pipe to hold the vinegar and copper solution?
I wouldnt increse the voltage by much, maybee a little bit. Yes a pvc tube would work perfectly just make sure you have an annode that surrounds your barrel so you can get a more even plating.
so at the risk of sounding stupid, when making the solution or dissolving the copper where does the negitive go? I mean do u just drop the clip in or use a diiferent piece of copper or is it any metal on the negitive end?
In this case, no because you have a limited ammount of copper in the solution. You would end up getting a ruined black cathode with flakey plating. If you had a stronger acid to use, yes you could use more volts and current.
so u make a vinegar solution ( just vinegar and nothing else?) and then put copper that was connected to the anode side of ur battery in the vinegar? thats it? what kind of metal polish do u use?
I did this for 23 years and used to barrel copper plate quarters 500 at a time. My buddy had a coin op route and the bar owners used them for people that said they lost money playing the machines.
And as a 4th grade science project we used copper sulphate. You could use stainless steel for an anode then. You can plate on plastic, glass, anything. I have done it for a living.
One little explanation for the foggy green solution colour : I will share one of my little secrets with you. Well Cupric ions Cu++ turn the solution sky blue while cuprous ions Cu+ turn it deep blue green as in this video. You can easily switch from cupric (say copper sulfate) to cuprous by adding an ascorbic acid tablet (vitamin C enriched aspirine for instance) which acts as a mild reducing agent. After all cuprous give better plating results
If you switch to 12volts (I tried it b4) it will go waaay too fast. It will create a lot of hydrogen and oxygen and will turn your project instantly black due to the lack of copper ions.
you are right - I agree. that is how it played out in my hands. One major drawback with high voltage or a too concentrated solution is that the coating will peel off instantly as you touch it. ...
And always remember the best technique is the technique which gives the best results in your hands
Look man the most beautiful copper plating applications I have seen are copper plating staples and car jumper starter electrodes. Also I am mulling copper plating jewelry or cutlery (cheap stainless steel). Carry on...
instantly black rather due to electrolytically produced oxygen reacting with copper as soon as it deposits thus resulting in unwanted oxidization side-reactions. (though the coating thickness may also be a factor)
Yes, A stronger acid will work better by holding more copper ions in the solution and no NaOh will not work because it's a strong base, not an acid. The salt makes the solution more conductive.
wow, im an idiot... i knew NaOH was a base... i just figured that out right as i posted that. hahaha.... i ment to ask if like 30% HCl would work cause thats like all i have right now... ?
Yes theoretically that would work much better than vinegar. Personally, I havnt tried it before (dont have connections for HCL) but it would hold more copper in the solution. Please tell me how it goes!
i tried this as best as i could understand,i put copper tubing in vinegar and hooked 2 amps from a car charger to it but it didnt change color for plating what am i missing or doing wrong?
how long do i have to wait for the copper and vinegar to turn blue or green?
For me, It took me about a good hour. Also make sure that the charger was connected the right way. The Positive end of your circuit ALWAYS goes to the anode (copper)
you can also use vineger and proxide 2:1, and microwave it to make it bubble than put in pennies and you will get that blue solution to copper plate stuff.
Im dissolving the copper how long should it take with a 1.5v battery and a 9v battery i want to know how long it will take for both to make the solution turn blue thanks
To tell you the truth, 20 minutes isnt very long of a wait. But yes you can go faster by using higher voltage. But you must first get a solution with a higher concentration of copper ions.
Humm, I thought you needed to filter it in order to get the particles and other Contamination out of the solution. I read that somewhere... I guess I learn something new every day
im using a 6v. battery and my copper wont stick i have a solid copper annode and copper plating solution and it still wont work just wont stick do you know why
im doing copper electroplating for my school science project and my copper wont stick im using a 6v. lantern battery do you know why the copper wont stick
Can you plate any metal? And are there other metals you can plate whith? And what is the blue liquid? An electrolyte? Where can I get it? Sorry about all of the questions, I have to do a science fair project.
i know for sure that the solution can be made by taking the copper anode and a paperclip for a cathode. let this run for about 15 min. and the vinegar-salt solution should turn blue. I believe this blue substance is copper sulfate but i am not 100% sure. not sure about other metals but i know zinc works well. i believe lead does not come off the anode so you would need to continue dissolving a lead salt into the mix.
yes you can plate anything that conducts well, (metals) you need to make it so there is no oxidation on the layer you want to plate though, because it wont work otherwise, so scrub it down with some steel/iron wool first..
haven't tried my electroplating experiment for a while however i found the cause of the black crust. If there is too much salt in the solution it becomes to good a conductor making the electrons flow faster than the rate that the positive ions can come off the anode. This than turns to the water and starts using up all the hydrogen. This process neutralizes the vinegar. The black crust is formed when a positive ion does get across to the cathode but turns black.
Well, There are many possible good solutions to clean like for copper you can use a vinegar, salt solution. Also Any acid (weak) should be pretty good also. But i just stick to rubbing alcohol and/or acetone.
Well, vinegar as a base solution. just add a pinch of salt and electricly dissolve the copper in the solution(the setup I used in the video). But it works a lot better and faster if you add copper salts to the solution.(thats what I currently use now for my copper plating.)
no, vinegar is an acid and the salt turned your copper acetate into copper chloride which is bright green and mildly toxic. Check wikipedia for the color if you think i'm incorrect.
Yea Im pretty sure thats what happened and I agree with you because copper chloride is a greenish and yes it is slightly toxic because it is producing a verrrry small ammount of chlorine gas due to breaking down the NaCl into Na and Cl(g). Any copper solution is toxic because it contains copper ions. I have worked with more toxic things before so im not very worried...
Well, It really depends on what voltage and what your copper consentration is. It actually took about 15. But the more time, the thicker the copper layer
I also really wanted to try to plate brass but I tried it with a brass anode and tried it, It didnt work. I also tried having a Copper annode and a zinc annode in my solution (brass is copper and zinc) But that didnt work either. I looked into it and it appears you need more chemicals to be able to accomplish it. I'm sorry I wish I could help... I would love to see if anyone has has an answer.
The polish was used because after I plated my coin, it wasnt exactly a shiney copper appearance. I just polished it because it made it look a lot better. I just used a special polishing compound. Any metal polish should work.
ahh, hehe bit wierd for me to know that, im an electrician, but you know cuz if the resistance is high: iron+water+aligators thats a lot of resistance, is it better if the amperege was higher ?
The cathode would be bubbling because when the water is electrified, at the cathode, hydrogen is being produced, at the annode oxygen is being produced. Basicly its breaking the water in the vinegar down. Now about the 25 min thing, it takes a while to plate the object. You can also do it for like 5-10 if your solution is more consentrated. And with the voltage, no, more isnt as good. (Less is more) because you try to take more copper out of the solution that what is in it creating black gunk.
Hey, I have a pendant that I'm trying to repair via copper plating. Its a raised copper rose on a silver metallic back (it could be silver, iron, lead, steel, or a combination: its an antique, I have NO idea) Over time, the copper on the petals has worn away on spots, so I want to fix that. However, I do not want the silver metallic (again, I'm not sure if its silver) to be affected. I started covering it with painters tape, hoping that the paper will interfere. I doubt that will work.Any ideas?
I mean, I could cover that area with wax, though I have no idea how I'm going to get that off without buying something ridiculous like wax remover...>.> Though, that may be the best solution.
when i tried it, my coin tuned black in a matter of seconds. I left it for 2 hours and turned into a yellow-orange crust on the coin. I want in to shine like yours did but do you have any Ideas why this happened?
Guess I was wrong about my last comment.The nickel actually did copper plate even though it was on the positive terminal.I thought in order to plate,that it had to be on the negative terninal;I'm confused.
Bobensen,I tried an experiment on a nickel, where I attached the postive terminal to it and put it in a vinegar/salt solution.The negative was copper tubing.Results:the nickel started to turn into copper.I thought that maybe it was plating in reverse but then I came to the conclusion that nickels are made of copper underneath the nickel finish.Does this make sense?
oh its just viniger and it's turnd green from the cooper being plated
BLUYES422 11 months ago
will this work on aluminium?
100roberthenry 1 year ago
Do you could get a way to apply this technique in plastic materials?
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uytiify 1 year ago
Isn't defacing US currency actually a federal offense?
NoWattz 1 year ago
@NoWattz
It is not against the law, haven't you ever seen those presses in tourist places that allow you to insert a penny and it makes it into an emblem with their logo on it?
That's like saying if you take a dollar out of your wallet and burn it, the feds will arrest you! It's your money and you can do as you please as long as you don't put it back into circulation.
wulff707 1 year ago
U.S. Code Title 18, Chapter 17, Section 331 is the actual statute. But, it's like you said, as long as you don't try to use them as legitimate currency, it's ok. :)
NoWattz 1 year ago
What is your Coper plate solution made of
brandon11ac 1 year ago
nice, now please go and wash your hands
ihabsinno 1 year ago
@imthemovieman
Your voltage is waaay ti high for the solution you are using. If you dont have enough copper ions in the solution for the volatge you will get a lot of black stuff. I used only 1.5 volts from an AA. Even 12 volts is too much for this solution. You also may have too much salt in your solution making it too conductive. You should not be getting much if any fizzing or bubbles.
Bobensen 1 year ago 2
can you please explaine how you make the copper and nickel plating solition you use . Do you have any txt doc for some of us explaing how things are done for use please ty
metal2 1 year ago
Whenever i do this my quater becomes black. And when you said you used vinegar copper and a pinch of salt what goes on the negative end when you are making the solution? I would like to know what i am doing wrong thankyou and great video!! :D
rccars4LiFE 1 year ago
will paint thinner remove the new color?
or wut exactly will remove the plating?
IwataSpraya 1 year ago
plating other things is O.K. and it doesn't have to be copper plated, chrome plated is another type of plating
doomcaster76 1 year ago
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doomcaster76 1 year ago
Yeah it's true, I've done this experiment...
doomcaster76 1 year ago
What about brass, can you do the same thing????
vlvl21 1 year ago
Thanks for the video! I attempted to plate some 304 stainless steel using this method, and had no luck at all using a white vinegar solution. The solution worked fine for other metals.
After a little research, I tried using a warm water and baking soda mixture and it works a bit better for stainless steel. It takes a little longer, but actually sticks and holds up to light polishing.
TouringBubble 1 year ago
So I can strip my car of all parts and strip the paint, Immerse it in a solution in a swimming pool and have a glorious copper car???
WTG!
locouk 1 year ago
WAIT MAN can i so called copper plate a knife so resist rusting cause i gota pocket knife in tired of oiling and what kind of liquid holding system should i use and can i posibly use silver lol
dylbyl1234 1 year ago
niiice!
what is that liquid?
TheSliekaStyle 1 year ago
You made a power source out of a simple battery...I see it in the background but I want to know the steps to do that.
Drumminsince89 1 year ago
Whats the voltage?
MasterChief241 1 year ago
@MasterChief241 1.5v
poprocks4 1 year ago
what song was that?
aeroscope 1 year ago
Awesome Video And Job i was wondering if you knew if i could use scrap copper wire like from my house to electroplate? also is there any other solutions i can use besides vinegar? Thank you So Much Awesome Quarters
daviddaddy 1 year ago
@daviddaddy
Yes you can use scrap copper wire from a house. Also yes you can use other solutions such as different acids like HCL etc...
Bobensen 1 year ago
@Bobensen Can I use anny acid?
Ubojica6661 1 year ago
@Bobensen The greater the acidity (on the PH scale) the better I would imagine or am I wrong?
GhostOfACPast 1 year ago
Nice Work!
I have been out of school for a Loooooong time. I forgot half the stuff I learned. I'm glad I found this. KUDO'S
skoorbes 1 year ago
Lol that's not distortion thats called puberty
ipodtester1 1 year ago 18
do you HAVE to connect it to a battery?
MrJerrikoMatt 1 year ago
I would rather coat a quarter in silver... or gold.
ToobeYoo 2 years ago
Great video! Well designed and kept us interested.
Ideal99 2 years ago
hi cool way of plating a few weeks a go i got profehsinal plating liqued from my uncle his jobs plating i have dip 40 asid copper and bright nickle i can plate my thing at most 20 sec i use 3 volt but a megga strong current
nadav611 2 years ago
nice camera
both the audio and color are messed up
MightiestMerchants 2 years ago
Thanks a lot... was about 7 years old at the time, pretty dam good if you ask me. Now yes I do have a muh better camera. Cant always have wat you want (atleast I cant)
Bobensen 2 years ago 11
can you plate aluminum or steel this way
EnAimBoy 2 years ago
yup
Bobensen 2 years ago
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Eomund 1 year ago
@Bobensen I can't get this to work with aluminum. I'm able to plate quarters and other things, not aluminum. A film develops on the aluminum that can be wiped off, leaving the aluminum clean and platting free. What am I doing wrong? Thx.
Eomund 1 year ago
@Bobensen I can't get this to work with aluminum. I'm able to plate quarters and other things, not aluminum. A film develops on the aluminum that can be wiped off, leaving the aluminum clean and platting free. What am I doing wrong? Thx.
Eomund 1 year ago
@EnAimBoy I tried, but aluminum is almost entirely waste of time, because it is continuously being displaced. Copper ions hit the aluminum and cause displacement faster than the power supply can replace the aluminium's electrons and the aluminium breaks up into free floating ions.
aeroscope 1 year ago
does it have to be metal
thedragonsprince 2 years ago
Yes. Graphite might work, too.
TuneMaestro 2 years ago
i'm thinking about plating a paintball marker, the longest part is the barrel, a 14 inch tube, would i need to increase the voltage or use some more AA. could i use pvc pipe to hold the vinegar and copper solution?
waltrulz 2 years ago
I wouldnt increse the voltage by much, maybee a little bit. Yes a pvc tube would work perfectly just make sure you have an annode that surrounds your barrel so you can get a more even plating.
Bobensen 2 years ago
How do you make the blue solution? Do you just leave the copper in it and let it dissolve by itself. Or do you run current through it.
caboose434 2 years ago
I ran a current through it for an hour or so if you are unsure, check previous comments (i posted how somewhere)
Bobensen 2 years ago
I suppose you could use gold at the cathode too.
pirucreek 2 years ago
so at the risk of sounding stupid, when making the solution or dissolving the copper where does the negitive go? I mean do u just drop the clip in or use a diiferent piece of copper or is it any metal on the negitive end?
paulsawawall 2 years ago
The negitive can be any piece of metal dipped in the solution. as long as it's not touching the positive
Bobensen 2 years ago
thanks, and how long til you put the quarter in after a good color change?
paulsawawall 2 years ago
For the solution to become ready, It took about an hour.
Bobensen 2 years ago
is the electrolyte JUST vinegar?
WeynWild 2 years ago
In theory wouldn't leaving this in for longer make a thicker plating? Maybe replace the battery every few days? :P
DjinnJuggler 2 years ago
what did you put inside to solution-water?(it is green) Where can i get it?
halfmumi 2 years ago
if i increased the amperage would the process be faster or would a higher voltage increase the speed of the reaction?
evanpilot 2 years ago
In this case, no because you have a limited ammount of copper in the solution. You would end up getting a ruined black cathode with flakey plating. If you had a stronger acid to use, yes you could use more volts and current.
Bobensen 2 years ago
Thanks
evanpilot 2 years ago
what if you just put it in with no battery
MacsCanfly 2 years ago
ITS GOING TO EXPLODE!!!!
Just kidding.....
In this case, no battery=no plating=no fun
Bobensen 2 years ago
what kind of battery did use?
flagman57 2 years ago
just a 1.5v AAbattery with two metal prongs taped to both sides.
Bobensen 2 years ago
so u make a vinegar solution ( just vinegar and nothing else?) and then put copper that was connected to the anode side of ur battery in the vinegar? thats it? what kind of metal polish do u use?
flagman57 2 years ago
i'll do it in 10 second with a 230 amp dc welder....
BOOM
llamafur 2 years ago
I did this for 23 years and used to barrel copper plate quarters 500 at a time. My buddy had a coin op route and the bar owners used them for people that said they lost money playing the machines.
And as a 4th grade science project we used copper sulphate. You could use stainless steel for an anode then. You can plate on plastic, glass, anything. I have done it for a living.
uzi1951 2 years ago
the green solution is copper acetate
nice
bigdanlis 2 years ago
nice work
dunngar 2 years ago
you are getting results - congratulations !
What will happen if we switch to 6 V or even still 12 V ? I have been trying day after day with poor results so I may be switching to your 1.5 V tip.
LEBANON707 2 years ago
One little explanation for the foggy green solution colour : I will share one of my little secrets with you. Well Cupric ions Cu++ turn the solution sky blue while cuprous ions Cu+ turn it deep blue green as in this video. You can easily switch from cupric (say copper sulfate) to cuprous by adding an ascorbic acid tablet (vitamin C enriched aspirine for instance) which acts as a mild reducing agent. After all cuprous give better plating results
LEBANON707 2 years ago
Didnt know that, thanks
(I learn something new every hour)
Bobensen 2 years ago
If you switch to 12volts (I tried it b4) it will go waaay too fast. It will create a lot of hydrogen and oxygen and will turn your project instantly black due to the lack of copper ions.
Bobensen 2 years ago
you are right - I agree. that is how it played out in my hands. One major drawback with high voltage or a too concentrated solution is that the coating will peel off instantly as you touch it. ...
And always remember the best technique is the technique which gives the best results in your hands
LEBANON707 2 years ago
Look man the most beautiful copper plating applications I have seen are copper plating staples and car jumper starter electrodes. Also I am mulling copper plating jewelry or cutlery (cheap stainless steel). Carry on...
LEBANON707 2 years ago
instantly black rather due to electrolytically produced oxygen reacting with copper as soon as it deposits thus resulting in unwanted oxidization side-reactions. (though the coating thickness may also be a factor)
LEBANON707 2 years ago
oh ya i add to polish to at the end
Agremen 2 years ago
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Agremen 2 years ago
nice vid! would a stronger acid work better like NaOH ? and what is the pupose of the pinch of salt ?
neversoft900 2 years ago
Yes, A stronger acid will work better by holding more copper ions in the solution and no NaOh will not work because it's a strong base, not an acid. The salt makes the solution more conductive.
Bobensen 2 years ago
wow, im an idiot... i knew NaOH was a base... i just figured that out right as i posted that. hahaha.... i ment to ask if like 30% HCl would work cause thats like all i have right now... ?
neversoft900 2 years ago
Yes theoretically that would work much better than vinegar. Personally, I havnt tried it before (dont have connections for HCL) but it would hold more copper in the solution. Please tell me how it goes!
Bobensen 2 years ago
I think that electrolysis of solution of copper chloride would produce chlorine, witch could be a problem.
Brbolj 2 years ago
Oo Reply button doesn't work for me.
Brbolj 2 years ago
hi! great video but did you say acetone or acid for cleaning? if it's acid then what kind is best? great vid!
mashersmasher 2 years ago
he said acetone for both.
jeremiahswee 2 years ago
well thanks for the help i have done some now cool
27simber 2 years ago
i tried this as best as i could understand,i put copper tubing in vinegar and hooked 2 amps from a car charger to it but it didnt change color for plating what am i missing or doing wrong?
how long do i have to wait for the copper and vinegar to turn blue or green?
jakejekyl417 2 years ago
For me, It took me about a good hour. Also make sure that the charger was connected the right way. The Positive end of your circuit ALWAYS goes to the anode (copper)
Bobensen 2 years ago
If you do it properly, it wont wear off. and yes scffed chrome should be able to plate over as long as its clean.
Bobensen 2 years ago
wait if Solution= Vinegar, Dissolved Copper and a pinch of salt why is it blue
evnmore 2 years ago
Because of the copper ions saturated in the solution.
Bobensen 2 years ago
can you spend these??
butchlester 2 years ago
Ummm... Legally No(i thnk) but i got away spending a couple (now there in circultion) Also there fine to put in soda machines
Bobensen 2 years ago
can i use nail polish remover as acetone
Soccerballin6 2 years ago
yup
Bobensen 2 years ago
Nice Video! This cool Bob!
ELManlinos 2 years ago
mine didnt work,am i putting too much salt? (3 pinches),i used a 9v battery and 3 pinches of salt is all i did different
snoozlefroose 3 years ago
you can also use vineger and proxide 2:1, and microwave it to make it bubble than put in pennies and you will get that blue solution to copper plate stuff.
draconite420 2 years ago
cool im gonna try this,do you think i could use copper wire as a source of copper? (if i used alot?)
snoozlefroose 3 years ago
Yup it will work
Bobensen 3 years ago
SOLUTION = ? (more info on this, please.)
Kriswixx 3 years ago
This is the LAST time Im posting this (i have posted it many times)
Solution= Vinegar, Dissolved Copper and a pinch of salt
Bobensen 3 years ago
What sort of power supply do you use? It appears in your last video that you use just a AC adapter on a power strip. Maybe i'm just seeing things.
youtubasoarus 3 years ago
the power supply is a 1.5v battery, or, AA. (FROM WHAT I SEE)
Kriswixx 3 years ago
what is in the solution??
mdc2296 3 years ago
Im dissolving the copper how long should it take with a 1.5v battery and a 9v battery i want to know how long it will take for both to make the solution turn blue thanks
Astatine0936 3 years ago
any way to condense the waiting to something like 5 minutes instead of 25 decades?
sodr2 3 years ago
To tell you the truth, 20 minutes isnt very long of a wait. But yes you can go faster by using higher voltage. But you must first get a solution with a higher concentration of copper ions.
Bobensen 3 years ago
You mean I just add more CuSO4? Also, what about if I'm using H2SO4 in the solution as well?
sodr2 3 years ago
Exactly
Bobensen 3 years ago
By using higher current: Q = It = nzF
Greater concentration of copper ions will lower the resistance and current goes up.
kaviaari 3 years ago
Btw whats ur solution composed of =D nice videos btw can you
Astatine0936 3 years ago
Can you post a video on how to produce sodium hydroxide? I've had little success in my attempts, and you seem like you would be able to do it well.
Jartigas5 3 years ago
Very impressive. Such good results with so simple equipment. Your Voice is funny. Five Stars!
DoktorKlawonn 3 years ago
check out my video type in zinc plating its the first one let me know what you think
coolsciencetech 3 years ago
was the solution pure vinegar? thanx
theredrooter 3 years ago
no you dont want to filter it but in some cases you do want to agitate your plating solution
kjs12224 3 years ago
Humm, I thought you needed to filter it in order to get the particles and other Contamination out of the solution. I read that somewhere... I guess I learn something new every day
Bobensen 3 years ago
did u circulate the plating solution somehow while u were plating
kjs12224 3 years ago
No I didn't Even though you should circulate and filter it constantly
(im not a professional)
(not yet...)
Bobensen 3 years ago
watch my video!!! Type in Zinc plating and search it. its the first one!!! rate it and comment!!!
coolsciencetech 3 years ago
im using a 6v. battery and my copper wont stick i have a solid copper annode and copper plating solution and it still wont work just wont stick do you know why
kjs12224 3 years ago
im doing copper electroplating for my school science project and my copper wont stick im using a 6v. lantern battery do you know why the copper wont stick
kjs12224 3 years ago
Can you plate any metal? And are there other metals you can plate whith? And what is the blue liquid? An electrolyte? Where can I get it? Sorry about all of the questions, I have to do a science fair project.
dyldyljkj19 3 years ago
i can answer that to the best of my abilities.
i know for sure that the solution can be made by taking the copper anode and a paperclip for a cathode. let this run for about 15 min. and the vinegar-salt solution should turn blue. I believe this blue substance is copper sulfate but i am not 100% sure. not sure about other metals but i know zinc works well. i believe lead does not come off the anode so you would need to continue dissolving a lead salt into the mix.
videosrock654 3 years ago
Thanks! I did it!
dyldyljkj19 3 years ago
the blue solution from what i know should be copper sulphate... because the copper would be easy to separate from the sulphur anyway give it a shot
timothyp2009 3 years ago
wrongo if he is only using vinegar then it is copper ACETATE.....
zcuttlefish 3 years ago
yes you can plate anything that conducts well, (metals) you need to make it so there is no oxidation on the layer you want to plate though, because it wont work otherwise, so scrub it down with some steel/iron wool first..
:D
timothyp2009 3 years ago
haven't tried my electroplating experiment for a while however i found the cause of the black crust. If there is too much salt in the solution it becomes to good a conductor making the electrons flow faster than the rate that the positive ions can come off the anode. This than turns to the water and starts using up all the hydrogen. This process neutralizes the vinegar. The black crust is formed when a positive ion does get across to the cathode but turns black.
videosrock654 3 years ago
very nice video,very instructive. One question, what the best solution to clean the material to be plated?
fercarcas 3 years ago
Well, There are many possible good solutions to clean like for copper you can use a vinegar, salt solution. Also Any acid (weak) should be pretty good also. But i just stick to rubbing alcohol and/or acetone.
Bobensen 3 years ago
you mean that the green solution is actual blue one?
fercarcas 3 years ago
Yes, The solution I had made up the day before was crystal blue. The next day it randomly turned green. Same thing happened to my nickel solution.
Bobensen 3 years ago
did you use NaCl to increase conductivity?
zcuttlefish 3 years ago
Yes it makes the solution more conductive. The more NaCl you use the more conductive it is
Bobensen 3 years ago
i thought we use CuSO4 solution for the plating
does it really works with only vinegar ( white ) ?
rekinu5 3 years ago
Yes It does also work with vinegar but cuso4 is better. Really, as long as your solution is acidic and you can dissolve your copper its ok.
Bobensen 3 years ago
u mean only vinegar. ONLY, like nothing else added as salt, like copper salt?
btw thnks for the answers, i hope i dont annoy you :D
rekinu5 3 years ago
Well, vinegar as a base solution. just add a pinch of salt and electricly dissolve the copper in the solution(the setup I used in the video). But it works a lot better and faster if you add copper salts to the solution.(thats what I currently use now for my copper plating.)
Bobensen 3 years ago
no, vinegar is an acid and the salt turned your copper acetate into copper chloride which is bright green and mildly toxic. Check wikipedia for the color if you think i'm incorrect.
zcuttlefish 3 years ago
Yea Im pretty sure thats what happened and I agree with you because copper chloride is a greenish and yes it is slightly toxic because it is producing a verrrry small ammount of chlorine gas due to breaking down the NaCl into Na and Cl(g). Any copper solution is toxic because it contains copper ions. I have worked with more toxic things before so im not very worried...
Bobensen 3 years ago
Well, It really depends on what voltage and what your copper consentration is. It actually took about 15. But the more time, the thicker the copper layer
Bobensen 3 years ago
I want to plate red brass with yellow brass (70/30) any tips or would it be about this same process just with brass tubing instead?
DanielScottLipe 3 years ago
I also really wanted to try to plate brass but I tried it with a brass anode and tried it, It didnt work. I also tried having a Copper annode and a zinc annode in my solution (brass is copper and zinc) But that didnt work either. I looked into it and it appears you need more chemicals to be able to accomplish it. I'm sorry I wish I could help... I would love to see if anyone has has an answer.
Bobensen 3 years ago
My Solution:
Vinegar (distilled white)
Pinch of salt
Electricly Dissolved Copper
The polish was used because after I plated my coin, it wasnt exactly a shiney copper appearance. I just polished it because it made it look a lot better. I just used a special polishing compound. Any metal polish should work.
Bobensen 3 years ago
im using 9 volt battery, or should i use less? what the minimum for the voltage to be?
panzarw 3 years ago
Yea, 9 is too high, I used 1.5
Bobensen 3 years ago
ahh, hehe bit wierd for me to know that, im an electrician, but you know cuz if the resistance is high: iron+water+aligators thats a lot of resistance, is it better if the amperege was higher ?
panzarw 3 years ago
Well it is better but you can eventually get a bit too high. Really for me it doesnt really affect me that much
Bobensen 3 years ago
The only wierd thing about this is that the thing you want to plate is bubling but not the one thats giving away the molecus.
why 25 min? i thought you need less, somewhere 5-10 minutes to do it
ohh and is it better if the voltage is higher ?
panzarw 3 years ago
The cathode would be bubbling because when the water is electrified, at the cathode, hydrogen is being produced, at the annode oxygen is being produced. Basicly its breaking the water in the vinegar down. Now about the 25 min thing, it takes a while to plate the object. You can also do it for like 5-10 if your solution is more consentrated. And with the voltage, no, more isnt as good. (Less is more) because you try to take more copper out of the solution that what is in it creating black gunk.
Bobensen 3 years ago
how is the solution made?? im kinda new to this n i dunno how its done!! cud any of u guys help me please..
moodhubulhaa 3 years ago
Hey, I have a pendant that I'm trying to repair via copper plating. Its a raised copper rose on a silver metallic back (it could be silver, iron, lead, steel, or a combination: its an antique, I have NO idea) Over time, the copper on the petals has worn away on spots, so I want to fix that. However, I do not want the silver metallic (again, I'm not sure if its silver) to be affected. I started covering it with painters tape, hoping that the paper will interfere. I doubt that will work.Any ideas?
OrgWizard 3 years ago
I mean, I could cover that area with wax, though I have no idea how I'm going to get that off without buying something ridiculous like wax remover...>.> Though, that may be the best solution.
OrgWizard 3 years ago
when i tried it, my coin tuned black in a matter of seconds. I left it for 2 hours and turned into a yellow-orange crust on the coin. I want in to shine like yours did but do you have any Ideas why this happened?
videosrock654 3 years ago
Either clean it better or use only 1.5 volts. The annode might also be too close or your using too much salt
Bobensen 3 years ago
your awesome, put some ads in the paper earn some extra money
TTTopGun 3 years ago
how would you suggest he do that?
coolsciencetech 3 years ago
no sulfuric acid? :(
anywho, im relatively certain i put WAY too much H2SO4 because im getting a weird red spongy precipitate all over the cathode
dudebot09 3 years ago
viva la techno
NinjaKid3000 3 years ago
do you play on Xbox Live i have someone on my friends list with a gt that is very sinilar to your youtube name
natemcgraw 3 years ago
No I do not.
Bobensen 3 years ago
Oxidation my friend, oxidation, copper does this when air is around it
First2ner 3 years ago
Yea, I know i just didnt call it that in my vid... Now i spray or put on a clear coat around my plating jobs and they stay perfect.
Bobensen 3 years ago
why do you do this anyway?
First2ner 3 years ago
I only Copper plated a coin for a demonstration. I can plate many other things for usefulness or just for fun (like the coins) Why not? Its a hobby
Bobensen 3 years ago
wasn't meant like that, hobby is great!
First2ner 3 years ago
where do u get the battery??
HinesWardx86x 3 years ago
o nvm lol i thot it was a 12 volt battery
HinesWardx86x 3 years ago
lol wtf?? in any store? it is most basic 1.5v battery, shish...
First2ner 3 years ago
Guess I was wrong about my last comment.The nickel actually did copper plate even though it was on the positive terminal.I thought in order to plate,that it had to be on the negative terninal;I'm confused.
65stratplayer 3 years ago
Bobensen,I tried an experiment on a nickel, where I attached the postive terminal to it and put it in a vinegar/salt solution.The negative was copper tubing.Results:the nickel started to turn into copper.I thought that maybe it was plating in reverse but then I came to the conclusion that nickels are made of copper underneath the nickel finish.Does this make sense?
65stratplayer 3 years ago
Did you add any salt to the vinegar before dissolving the copper anode?
65stratplayer 3 years ago