Im a christian and watching anneliese can be scary but confusing too, the things the demons said don't make sense, not that they have to make sense of course, but starting with anneliese, saying Mother God talked to her, Jesus said the ONLY way to the Father is through him, there is no Mother God, there is no Holy Virgin, Jesus never said that, the fact that Mother God told her to suffer so other souls wont go to hell is a lie, each person is responsible for their acts,
@aprilazaaa Bearing in mind that all religions are different and seem to contradict each other over and over,even christians have differing views to each other.Over the centuries the bible has been played with and changed so many times that to believe in it would in my opinion be a mistake. Also the translation is very very poor so it doesn`t make much sense at points also the vatican has held away from the public many many of the tapes,we only see a small part of it. Peace :)
@tintin777ful ,I doubt you have read and seriously study the Bible to be so sure the bible has been changed so many times, you really need to study, the bible invites you to chalenge it, to question, to compare with history, people that doesn't believe in the bible is people that has never studied it or chalenged it ( sorry for my english. Im still learning) people who believes only what other people who call themselves "experts" in the matter say but they never prove it, they give mere theories
@aprilazaaa I totally agree, there are no scriptures that instruct christians to worship Mary. In fact in Mark, Mary calls for Jesus to end his preaching work even calling it madness. God is also not three in one, God is one. I too find the Catholic religion very confusing.
Also for those here suggesting that the Bible has been changed, that is also wrong. Words may have been used where translation failed but the interpretation is still the same.
@FirexXxAngel By the intercession of St. Michael and the celestial Choir of Powers, may the Lord vouchsafe to protect our souls against the snares and temptations of the devil. Amen.
@FirexXxAngel WHY? GOD is ALL GOOD. GOD is ALL LOVE. Satanic people promote the ungodly ways: Abortion, Gay marriage, Drugs, Sexual perversion, Divorce, family immorality. I can go on and on and on, but your ways are not my ways saith the LORD. To believe in GOD is to believe in absolute GOOD, but satan's ways make evil good and good evil. You, my friend are an oxymoron as you speak. You say one thing, but do another. I, on the other hand, make GOD first in the way I live my life. GOD be with U
Sir, the case of Anneliese Michel is a real curious one, a real mystery. Most people here, including myself don't fully understand what really happened to her in the end. If you have the gift of seeing that, and other such things, feel blessed. But with great power comes great responsibility. All towers starts with one floor, sometimes a whole tower has to be stripped down to start building a new one. But it's not our place to do that in a social setting way. Wrong aid can turn into sin.
@FirexXxAngel Oh, you will know GOD exists!!! "The Warning" will show this. When it does, I know you will either be for heaven or be for hell. Either way, your soul will carry on, either in joy or in pain. It is up to you because GOD gave us all choice. I choose GOD over man because man is flawed because of choice. The Warning will give you the choice and you will know it is from GOD, at which point I pray you make the correct choice, GOD. GOD be with you in the events to come.
@FirexXxAngel Another thing, if you consider the Earthquake (5.8) in New York or the floods where people today still do not have electrical power as nothing, then I suggest you examine yourself, but there are still events to happen before this year is out, so I suggest that you pray in whatever manner you know for this country. I live in this country, but I have seen it gradually degrade with the unbelief in GOD. The unbelief will be our undoing. Jesus, I trust in YOU
@FirexXxAngel I have had a more important dream concerning "The Warning". I know about it, because I had it in Dec of 1999, but I will have it again when it happens for the world. I suggest you prepare your soul, because hell is real and waiting for souls like yours to enter it. I pray for you, but little good that will do if you are not open to it. GOD bless you in the coming events.
BTW: Yes I am praying and my dream indicated Sept. 11. I don't take it lightly.
There is few things that puzzles me, but here is the question: could and of us produce such sounds, with such intensity, and most importantly with a duration she or if you belive in this demons did?
If she has been as tormented and tiresome as she was, were did the streinght came from?
just 1 question.... 1 question...... how do you know she spoke "different languages" if you did not understand what she was saying....? If i randomly start speaking tongues does that mean i speak Latin, Greek, Italian, German? Don't get me wrong i might conjure a word or two out of what i've heard before OR out of simple chance but seriously, unless someone actually did speak multiple languages could approve that she was legitimately saying something then i would accept this as proof of posesion
Germany said yes to abortion, to wars, to kill the Jewish, remember! this country has majority of Protestants! Lutherans! they said yes to kill the jews to Hitler because Luther in his diaries said with all words "that Germany should get rid of the jewish, this hatreful race who made our people slaves". these are the words of Luther. Why the surprise for Hitler? Germany denies the existence of demons, of hell because all Europe now serves hell, including USA, another country of sins and heretics
of course is difficult to talk about this case in Germany. I live in Germany and this country is the father of the great Apostasy! Since Luther this country denies the existence of the demons - but Luther in his diaries confess with all words he knew he was also possessed by demons! But Germany worships him as their martyr. Of course Germany denies the existence of demons because Protestantism and all sects from it are apostasies. This is what the Church must say out loud but is silent!
Why must those with faith and those without argue over such matters? Neither of you KNOW the truth any more than a pebble knows of it's existence. You may have faith in science, or you may have faith in religion, the choice is your own and neither belief is more or less valid than the other. What each side shouts with vehement conviction is, and will forever be, nothing more than a guess.
@TheDiplococcus YOUR STATEMENT IS NOT TRUE, NOT SO. GOD IS TRUTH. GOD IS FACT. People want to say, "GOD does not exist". So you also say that with your statement not believing in such things as demons. To be complacent about such things is what the devil wants. The most wicked one wants us to think that demons are a guess. I personally know your are wrong. You will not know until you are dead when the demons drag your SOUL away while you are screaming, "WHY"? It is because you didn't believe!
Just dont worry about the ignorant they will jus be ignorant...we know spirits are real etc and that truth is stranger than fiction with alot of things so just don't worry about the people who think they know it all but don't know a damn thing other than what they are told.
You can look at this any way you wish, but if she was possessed then she wouldn't talk about money (she did), and blah blah blah... I could go on and on.
But looking at the facts, she was raised in a heavily religous family, taught all about the tales of the old roman gods, to cut a story short she was a firm believer.
If it was mental illness, it seems way more likely.
she seemed to be stuck in a Epileptic Psychosis, deprived of water and sturring in her own little world, she convinced herself.
@wfg You will see, but it will be too late for you. Sorry about that, I have no control on non-believers who are the reason why GOD is going to keep trying to give mercy for as long as He can to bring as many to Him as He can. You will see. The time is very short. The next place that will get hit is California. It will be Sept, Oct. No need to post back, I won't reply. To busy praying for reparation. GOD bless you
Christianity was not established as a "religion" till the days of salems lot, christianity had people fearing the supernatural or "witch-craft", Christianity tried to keep us in the dark ages, believing that technology was evil or to do with "witch-craft"!.
Anneliese had studied other languages, including Latin (which is supposed to be the language of Hades).
am i the only one here that gets creepd out by the demons voice?. it sounds so extreme! i was like. OMG! from now on im christian. i will do anything to get to heaven.
@AloneBurn can't buy your way in my friend but it is good that you wish to be christian. All the stuff so many claim not to be real is, possession, demons, evil spirit, God, angels, and the devil are all real. So, is heaven and hell! I had personal experiences with a possessed person, I have personally dealt with evil spirits and I guess you could say angels. I was an atheist for about 14 years never gave it thought at all until stuff started happening I couldn't explain. Can be scary GB
@2ravenf0x2 u must have missunderstood me. i was simply hiding myself(protecting) because. i have experienced on several ocations (demonic forces) i do deal with this often. i even had a priest in my apartment to flush demons out. iv woken up with shaking bed and iv even experienced doors slamming shut. handles shaking... but it stopd. and im a real christian. no worrys. i was just messing around.
ALL, Go look this guy up, Stanley Villavicencio. He has been promoting Divine Mercy since 1993, has been heard in every language miraculously and hasn't been sick a day since 1993 when he was given the mission to promote Divine Mercy by JESUS CHRIST Himself. Look Stanley up and then look up ferdinandart to see Ferdinand Rocconti.
WHOEVER WANTS PROOF, GO LOOK THEM UP AND GO HEAR THEM SPEAK.
SCIENCE CANNOT EXPLAIN GOD, BECAUSE GOD CREATED SCIENCE
@Gothicromance111 We could argue this point to no avail. Ulcers would develop from it. You can't prove it either, but there is better sense in believing that GOD created Man who created Science than the other way around.
It stands to reason that godless ways are ignorant to GOD. To have faith is a grace from GOD that you do not want.
My proof is FAITH, something you can't dispute because every man has his story. Just because you believe in science doesn't make you an authority on "NO GOD".
You may think you are living life to its fullest, and that us believers are foolish for not living the way you do, but on your last breath, your fear WILL overcome you, and you will wish that you believed in GOD.
You have been provided "scientific proof" of the existence of GOD and you have chosen not to accept it.
If I am right, you have much more to lose than I do. Eternal life is much better than the alternative.
@tanmara01 LOL.There's no scientific proof for the existence of God.Just because religions attempt to give answers to existential questions regarding death/afterlife,providing thus the believers with a feeling of safety, that's not a reason for me to believe in God.Researchers indicate that religious individuals fear death more than either atheists.Did you know that?Religion appear to reduce the fear of the unknown, while it increases the fear of being destroyed & the fear of being punished.
@Gothicromance111 That is where you are wrong! The articles about this incident where the man died for 3 days scientifically indicates strongly that GOD exists. The doctors and medical staff who checked the documentation say it is a miracle from GOD. The doctor who had the case became a Priest. You don't want to except it, but science has said there is no explanation, except that this is a miracle from GOD.
Read the articles for yourself instead of giving your flawed opinion.
@tanmara01 If one could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people. It is as simple as that. Try to be a little bit more open-minded. Several other explanations can be given to such incidents.
@Gothicromance111 I am not asking you "an atheist" to reason with me, but don't ask for proof and put your big nose into places if you aren't going to accept the proof.
Chaff in the Wind, that is all you are, that will be purged when the time comes.
Keep believing the way you want and see if hell doesn't exist.
You have more to lose than I do when it comes to death.
I only lose 100 or so years. You lose an eternity.
To burn in hell is no laughing matter. If your open minded, then you know.
@tanmara01 You talk like you know something but it is just shit,
if there was a god and he knew how you was talking then you wouldn't make it to heaven mate, listen to yourself forcing your views onto other people.
If there ever was a "god" then he turned his back on us a long time ago, when man invaded his golden city and tainted it, we were banned and cast from his city and forced to bring the taint back with us.
@tanmara01 yes and if the brain still has some life in it then a person can be "brought back from the dead" when in fact they were never truly dead in the first place.
It's fine that you need something to believe in, because cold hard facts just aren't enough for some people.
I have always been open minded to this type of thing but i'm reading what you are saying and all I can hear is blasphemy.
@tanmara01 What about several other scientists who claim that God doesn't exist? But, yeah, I forgot you just stick to one point and refuse to see the whole picture.
LOL.Destroy God? That's not an atheist's goal. Basically because there's nothing to destroy. Except for human stupidity, which is infinite.
Lastly, I didn't call you any names. Why do you attack me? But sure, this always happen when people run out of arguments. So, from now on, I won't even bother to reply to you.Good day!
@Gothicromance111 Human stupidity??? All those who don't agree with you are stupid? Goes to show what that degree in psychology earned you. A truly open minded education?
And you help people? How is that possible? You are calling GOD stupidity to a billion plus people.
Scientists like you are the reason why nuclear warfare exists. I would rather live without electricity and heat. Life would be more peaceful without your unGODly scientific ways.
@Gothicromance111 I was wondering your take on the Anneliese Michel story?I am open minded I am a quantum physics and theory friend with a belief in something just not sure what yet. I have many good ideas but 100% not so much. The laws of attraction and psychology are also a huge aspect of my reasoning and belief systems however, I do have a feeling I have had since a very young child that something spiritually intelligent exists.Well we know that energy only changes its not created or killed
@penbus492 This girl had too many problems,including epilepsy/seizures/episodes of paralysis/hearing voices/considered suicide/depressive symptoms/eating problems.One possible explanation: an extreme case of Dissociative Identity Disorder (many distinct personalities in the same person,mostly due to severe childhood trauma;the symptoms often resemble epilepsy & schizophrenia).DID may be misinterpreted as possession,where ''demons'' (the alters) take full control over the person.
@Gothicromance111 she couldn't walk past a jesus christ statue...when she was on a pilgrimage trip with a friend...explain that shit, and she was in perfect health at 22
@zw0ecool She was not in perfect health. She had her first epileptic seizure at the age of 16, if I remember right. And no one knows what associations she had made with specific objects and what feelings they evoked. Maybe she was just hallucinating, or the fact that she was extremely religious eventually caused some kind of repulsion. Many possible explanations can be given.
@Gothicromance111 You are quick to draw conclusions of your own, yet when you have been provided from scientists other than yourself who have provided factual proof that GOD exists, you don't believe it.
You're an atheist and shouldn't poke your finger into matters that you don't understand.
An atheist has one purpose only, to destroy GOD.
You say that you don't meddle in others affairs. HYPOCRITE!!
You say there is no GOD because you are upset that You don't agree with GOD.
@catbuithoi If science can not help me, I won't wait just stand there waiting for a miracle. Faith and religions are just social constructs which provide the believers with a false feeling of safety. Whereas, science provides evidence! I'll keep searching for answers, relying solely on my own strength, not on primitive methods and beliefs.
@ilovemusic6666 Yes, I absolutely agree with you. They knew that Anneliese had a very serious problem of health and they FIRST resorted to all the medical assistance they had available, and doctors never could help her. What is happened after, corresponds to the family culture and religious beliefs.
@mirandaisgreat It is mental illness ... does the demons, six of them right, needs the heart and brain of the body to be able to continue living through them... ? If it's really true, then how come the 6 demons, who couldn't pressumingly leave just "dissappeared" ?
"...let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. This is the 'stone that was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone'. NOR IS THERE SALVATION IN ANY OTHER, for there is no other name given under heaven among men by which we must be saved." -Acts 4:10-12 (emphasis mine)
wat?Annelisse had no power!The reason the spirits didnt leave was they claimed to hail Mary!why mary?she is not God..Jesus is!These priest were confused then & still now! catholic church does not Teach, it makes people/priest confused! Colossian 1:13: God rescued us from satan through jesus christ who sets us Free! Hello? Matthew 17:21,But an evil spirit of this kind is only driven out by prayer & fasting! READ the Bible people! we have holidays,yr system B.C&A.C, history etc OMG get with it...
I believe in Evil Spirits, but I do think this girl was sick. I heard crazy people and I saw them and they do look like they're possessed.ANyway, this girl suffered a lot and I'm sorry for her and for her family
So what's with all these stories that Anneliese Michel spoke with 6 different voices? The tapes reveal all her personalities sounded exactly the same. What about the Preist's assertions these were not human voices? I guess he has never heard a death metal singer before? Shit, Diamanda Galas does better voices.
I feel sorry for Anneliese. The only evil spirits around her were the ones who prevented her guardians from giving her proper health care.
@JimiLaMort I see your point and I couldn't agree more. ;)
Even in patients with dissociative identity disorder, the multiple personalities can be distinguished and the voices also sound differently. This girl was probably mentally ill and unfortunately this is not the only case when a patient was neglected or medical treatment was simply not provided, for stupid religious reasons.
@JKB6106 Yup, she was treated with powerful psychotropic drugs(since she was epileptic/suffered from depression+had suicidal thoughts).The medication she received had various side effects,which may have created some of the symptoms later on.If YOU do the research carefully you'll realize that it was just another severe case of dissociative identity disorder.During the exorcisms she no longer took the drugs.It was just a matter of finding the right treatment for her case and all her disorders.
the idea of the exorcism was primitive and stupid in the XXth century, unless it had worked by some sort of suggestion. but if she hadn't been exorcised she would have survived but continued to live a horrible life in an asylum drugged all day. science couldn't do much more for her than religion did. nevertheless, in the future, only science has the possibility to find a way to treat mental diseases right
Anyone who doesn't believe in possession opens themselves up to being possessed. In revelation it speaks of a day that is coming where all the demons will be loosed upon the earth. I wonder if on that day when it comes, the demons will possess all those who don't believe in it. Don't fool yourselves by believing that demons don't exist. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT DEMONS DO EXIST. The devil loves it when people don't believe in the powers of hell that exist in this world, one being "POSSESSION".
@tanmara01 I know possession and demons exist, but do you know why we get possessed? check out my comment in the previous video if you want to check it out!
@tanmara01 LOOOL... If you know ''for a fact'' that demons exist, prove it! And please, not by citing revelation or any other religious book, but with arguments and evidence.
@Gothicromance111 ON the day you die, there will be proof enough, but for you, it will be too late to believe in anything else other than hell. I will pray for you today, but to want proof takes years of belief. Remember we only live individually maybe 100 years, and GOD is timeless, so you had better pray for proof because time is running out for you. Like I said I will pray for you, but your free will could very possibly send you to hell. Once you get to hell, it's forever & too late for proof
@tanmara01''Belief'' doesn't result in ''proof'', just because you want it to.Only science can provide credible evidence,since it requires critical thinking & years of research.Faith in God on the other hand,gives nothing but a promise of an afterlife & a protection from the fear of death.As for prayer:this is the definition of how to do nothing and still think you're helping.Thanks but I'd rather burn in hell and preserve my free will,than being a blind follower of a religion.No offence.
@Gothicromance111 Go look up Stanley Villavicencio who died for 3 days and the doctor who treated him became a Priest.
Then do a google hit for ferdinandart to Ferdinand Rocconti. He was blind for 3 years with a disease called Myasthenia Gravis. There is no cure for it and he was healed, but the miracle of his story is, "while he was blind, he painted". Ten doctors witnessed it and he was cured without medication.
@tanmara01 Yes, there are medical mysteries, things that can not be explained yet and yes, doctors and scientist do make mistakes/misdiagnoses and so on. However, this does not suggest that God is responsible for every ''miracle''.
And the answer is simple. I don't believe in God, hence I don't believe in hell.But since you mentioned the issue of free will... Well, for me the most terrifying part would be not having free will. ''Hell'' doesn't scare me.
@Gothicromance111 Hell: to be eternally consumed by tormented fire without being consumed. The thought is pretty scary to me, but the actual existence of being there would be worse for anyone. I don't wish that on my worst enemy.
If you have skype, I would offer that as a form of communication if you would like, but nothing is pointless.
Everything is a plan, preordained. You and I are not chatting for no reason. It was planned, so don't ever think "pointless" to shut the door.
And by ''pointless'' I mean that I've seen many people trying to ''promote'' their religion or convert others, even if you say that this is not your goal. Your beliefs make no sense to me and I don't expect that you will ever understand mine point of view either.
@tanmara01 Don't fool yourself.I don't want to believe in any God.I'm an atheist.Being a psychologist though,I've learned to accept all kinds of beliefs,even if they don't make any sense to me.And since thanatology has been my main interest throughout the years and the area of my research,I couldn't help but acknowledge the importance of religious faith in death attitudes.However, religions are just social constructions.
+Being dead for 3 days is not a unique phenomenon.Just an abnormality.
@tanmara01 There are documented cases of people who have been dead for years actually.
Tolerance, acceptance and empathy on your opinion are hypocritical? I have my own beliefs, yes. However, these do not interfere with my work, since I don't feel the need to convert anyone or alter somebody's world view. I accept people for who they are and this includes respecting their beliefs.I don't need to be religious myself to understand that a person is in pain and needs help.
@Gothicromance111 Yes, there have been documented cases, but none for 3 days in the 20th century!!! That is a MIRACLE with all the technology that we have today.
You say belief doesn't interfere with your work? How do you explain GOD to people? Do you tell the people you help that GOD is a social construction? If you don't, then who is being hypocritical here? It certainly isn't me! Sure you have your own beliefs, but you commented to me wanting proof, not accepting what I said. Hypocritical?
@tanmara01 It's not my job to ruin their world by proving the non-existence of God and also I'm not a priest to explain God. If faith makes them feel better, who am I to judge this or take this away from them? That would be unethical.
And the reason I commented you was because you spoke of ''facts''. Leave facts and evidence for science. Religion is based solely on one's personal beliefs and aspirations.
@tanmara01 If God is perfect, why did he create a world full of imperfections? People aren't perfect, nothing in this world is perfect. How could the perfect God create something that is not perfect? People are suffering/dying and your perfect God does nothing.
Yes, people make mistakes, only to learn from them and move forward in order to do something greater.
@Gothicromance111 GOD is perfect...We are created to fill the thrones that were emptied out of heaven because of the fallen angels. I read books just like you, but I read the books of the saints. I do not live for this world, I live for heavenly reasons. I am human just like you but strive to be a saint. This is the only task that keeps me going.
I see that you do not know heaven unless you see it for yourself. but I do know that if you knew my life, you would not challenge the existence of GOD
@Gothicromance111 Also: poeple are put through tests and this world is very deceptive to say the least. When it says in the bible that the way to hell is wide and the way to heaven is narrow. This is true, and the time is short.
The world is not getting better, it is getting much worse. Even with all its flaws though, the mercy of GOD is abundant. Mercy is being poured out right now, but justice is right around the corner.
The devil is atheism, so don't say yes or no to the possibility of GOD.
@Gothicromance111 To give you scientific proof of someone who died for 3 days was leaving it to science.
You replied, Science makes misdiagnosing/mistakes. This is what you replied so science is flawed, so why leave it up to science? Leave it up to GOD Who is perfect.
Yes it is a personal fact, and your comments concerning GOD are certainly the unethical part of this communication.
Psychologist, You with your science is flawed, and for that reason, you lack the knowledge of our perfect GOD.
@Gothicromance111 Another thing? If you do tell people that GOD is a social construction, and one of those people should die in the course of your care, you will be accountable for changing that persons' FAITH when you die.
If, to affect another persons' belief causes the harm of that individuals' soul as to make that person end up in hell, on "YOUR" dying day, that person will judge you before CHRIST for changing their belief in GOD.
Ones' FAITH IN GOD should never be disturbed at all costs.
@tanmara01 Did you even read my reply? I do not try to affect people's beliefs, it's none of my business. They have their own point of view and I have my own point of view.Whatever makes one happy.Sounds fair enough.I wouldn't do the same mistake as many ''believers'' , who repeatedly try to shove their religion down your throat, even if you don't want to.
@Gothicromance111 YES, I would love for you to believe in GOD, but that you say that there is no GOD is reason enough for me to reply to you. You wanted proof and I provided it, but that was not enough for you. It is your own problems surrounding your own beliefs that stop you from believing in GOD. What can I say, I am grateful to have faith. I am thankful for the proofs that GOD has provided to me. I wish you could have that, but I can't give that to you. You have to want GOD in your life.
@tanmara01 Nothing is stopping me, believe me. I am happy with my choices and I am grateful that I am free from any kind of religion. And it's true, there's nothing you can do about it, because I don't need any God to give meaning to my life.
@Gothicromance111 Hopefully those choices are not hindering you from GODS' mercy.
You have made the conscious choice not to believe, not because there isn't any proof, but because you have decided that there is no GOD for your own reasons.
GOD has not shut the door on you, you have shut the door on GOD.
There are many things in this world that are unexplainable and GOD is one of them.
You commented on wanting some proof, and I gave you scientific proof that you said is flawed.
@Gothicromance111 AND when it comes to accepting people for who they are, you certainly went against your own beliefs by saying something to me.
If it is proof you want, then believe the proof that is given to you on a professional level instead of making your own opinionated statements without looking into the scientific proof personally.
I happen to know Stanley Villavicencio personally and so I know the facts surrounding the case.
@Gothicromance111 LOL, being dead for 3 days is not a "UNIQUE" phenomenon? Show me another who has died for 3 days and who was scientifically documented as such in the 20th century??? LOL
You have to accept those who believe in religion because you are a psychologist?
I would hate to be under your hypocritical care. It is worst kind of care for someone who believes in GOD.
AND YOU will be accountable for that, when you die, that I am sure of.
@Gothicromance111 It isn't my religion...Religion belongs to GOD. Your remarks as to how you believe shows much contradiction in many places, so I know that GOD is working in you. For you to be so abstinent to believing in GOD is the first sign of wanting to believe. You don't want me to believe otherwise or you would show me your proof. You have no proof for your remarks, but I have shown you scientific proof of a person who died for 3 days in the 20 century, a "MIRACLE" of GOD.
@Gothicromance111 I do understand your point of view. I believed that religion was an mental institution, but I kept searching for the truth. The truth did set me free. I even committed the unforgivable sin of abortion several times. As perfect as I thought I was, I did not think much of myself after a time. Since mankind makes mistakes, history is repeating itself. The harvesting will soon come, and when it does, be on the side of GOD in all things, and yes, it is hard but I do love my enemy.
@tanmara01 I've found my truth too, in science, which I serve.
I doubt that anyone can really love his/her enemy. If a person has hurt you in any way, you wouldn't just welcome him in your house with open arms. That would be foolish. Forgiveness would be perfect, but loving your enemy is irrational.
@Gothicromance111 To love your enemy is perfection and yes it is hard, but a day is coming that ALL will be accountable for their actions.
ALL the good "one" could have done and ALL the bad, will be shown to each and every one of us. On that day, there will be three kinds of people, the consolable, the un-consolable and the damned who will not care about the previous two. Noah is not a myth, it is a fact. This will be a precursor to the second coming of CHRIST.
@Gothicromance111 Also:if you can say that 3 days dead is not proof enough for you and that doctors makes mistakes, then your science is flawed.
GOD sends proof if you want to believe through science that is baffled by such events. It is up to you with that free will of yours to choose. GOD doesn't take free will away from us, man with its narrow mindedness takes it away by saying GOD does not exist.
Yea, we have live by laws that GOD has set up for us like, "Love Your Enemy". Can you do that?
@tanmara01 Yes, every single thing on earth has flaws, there's no such thing as perfection. In fact there are many cases of people who have been pronounced dead, while they were still alive. Actually, this was very common in 19th century.
When you have free will, you also have the ability to doubt your God and everything else. But God doesn't want you to to doubt, God wants you to follow and obey.
Love my enemy? Is there anyone who can do that? Not just theoretically. I mean for real.
@Gothicromance111 You quoted, "This does not suggest that GOD is responsible for every miracle". I see that you believe in miracles, "an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause". So WHO is responsible for that supernatural cause? I know GOD is responsible.
It is just a matter of time before you know GOD is responsible for miracles. I will pray for you to get that understanding. GOD bless you bro
@tanmara01 Don't try to paraphrase my words. I was just using the term you had previously used, so as to make a point. Cause whatever you consider to be a miracle in fact has a logical explanation. And once again, no need to pray for me. Don't waste your time. Do something more creative.
@Gothicromance111 Furthermore, ETERNAL LIFE is a much better criteria for believing than to believe in science that offers nothing except death. Your fearful life is your existence and on your last breath, you will be hoping that there is a GOD.
BUT when one does not believe in GOD, that person becomes conscience-less in their acts towards others & the acts of that person warrants hell here and after. ie:abortion
Don't become that person, despised by every1 even yourself.
@tanmara01 I guess you will be very disappointed when you die and there's no eternal life. Even if nothingness sounds scary I prefer to have realistic expectations and not to dwell in religious fantasies, only because this makes death sound less terrifying.
Furthermore, I don't need to believe in God to have a clear conscience and to be able to tell good from bad. I have a code of ethics of my own. I don't need any God to tell me about values and morality.
@Gothicromance111 Well, like I said, I will pray for you even though you don't want it. Prayer is extremely powerful. You sound like a reasonable person with the same ingredients that man is made from, so I would like to offer you to talk on the phone if you are USA based.
I am not hear to convert you.
You see, everything is a leap of faith. Your proof is your existence for what it is worth.
THIS I KNOW: My faith in GOD is stronger than any concept of yours.
Regardless of whether she was possessed or mentally ill, it is clear she offered herself for sinners. If it were no longer necessary, because Christ has paid the price, then why did He ask his disciples to pick up their crosses and follow Him? He also asked his disciples to be baptised with the same baptism, meaning baptism in blood. Anneliese is a martyr, a willing sacrifice for sinners, following in the steps of Jesus, regardless of whether she was possessed or not. Thank you Anneliese.
I agree with tuskaiae- the constant fighting about religious truth disgusts me too. Spirituality is inside of the person and however that person chooses to worship God is between them and their Maker.Faith and spirituality require you to believe in something you cannot see and fully understand until you die. May Annelise rest in peace and may each of us find peace. If her example helps us on our own spiritual path then her death was not in vain.
I agree with tuskaiae- the constant fighting about religious truth disgusts me too. Spirituality is inside of the person and however that person chooses to worship God is between them and their Maker.Faith and spirituality require you to believe in something you cannot see and fully understand until you die. May Annelise rest in peace and may each of us find peace. If her example helps us on our own spiritual path then her death was not in vain.
The court made the right judgement. This was an avoidable death of a young girl who was clearly suffering a mental illness. She lacked proper care by those untrusted with her well-being and who badly let her down. If nothing else, this story shows that religious superstitious beliefs and rituals such as those perpetuated by the Catholic church can be dangerous and result in people ignoring common sense.
@xenbay YES SHE NEEDED MEDICAL HELP. But you sayin she was only suffering from a freaking mental illness makes you look completely ridiculous. You obviously just don't want to believe in it. I don't LIKE the truth of what happened to her, but did you even listen to the freaking tapes....??? People with mental illnesses don't ..do.that.
@irhjma30000 You have obviously never heard of schizophrenia then. People with this illness often hear voices and speak in different voices. They may take on different "personalities" believing they are demons etc. It does not mean they are possessed or there's anything supernatural going on.
@xenbay hearing voices and speaking with a different-sounding voice is one thing. what was heard on those tapes....please. that is proof right there. i don't see how a girl could make a voice like that. and what about her mother witnessing her daughter being thrown to the ground and against walls. the bruises on her face and her cracked teeth show that too. honestly, i'm not saying this was handled as it should have been, but you obviously don't want to believe in anything that is unpleasant.
@irhjma30000 The fact you heard the voice coming from the girl, shows that the girl made the voice, using her own physical vocal chords which were clearly capable of making the sounds you heard. It wasn't a demon or any spirit entity. According to eye-witness accounts of her injuries they were self-inflicted, she would hit her head against the wall. A court with a jury found the Catholic priests and her mother guilty of causing her death. They examined all the evidence in great detail.
@xenbay people with schizophrenia do not take on different personalities what so ever. they become confused and very unorganized. They also may speak in a way that doesn't make sense, but they don't take on different personalities nor do they speak in difference voices.
@irhjma30000 It's very possible for someone with a serious mental illness such as schitzophrenia or multiple personality disorder to speak with different voices. Humans have two sets of vocal cords. And sometimes both can be active. Tibetan monks use both sets quite often.
oooh.Now,..'I' C, Look, Hitler was that shitty, A#$ H$%e, that He could'nt even make the place in hell after death..That's y that gate keeper of hell kick him from the hell..U really deserve this Bastard..!!! N that Girl, 'Anneliese' Won over u Sucked Demons..R.I.P..!!!
@NakedSnakeBlGBOSS its very possible, the Bible itself has no word on Virgin Mary being able to do the things they believe she can do, it would have been an excellent compromise to fool the priests
Thank you for posting and translating this disturbing film. Prior to viewing this I had a grudging respect for the often intellectually complex theological beliefs of the religious. But after watching this documentary and noting the obstinacy with which the surviving participants in this tragedy cling to their medieval delusions about this poor dead girl's mental condition and their own shameful part in her deterioration - it made me angry that such stupid people exist in this world.
maybe the message of possesion is not about a girl against bad spirits maybe it's all about human's religion, we made christianity,muslims or what so ever, the importance is we need to knew that God is really existing and you can be save not only by religion!
interesting documentary.I'm not religious at all.No power (like church) could lead me in my spirituality. i'm a human being who beleive to "the invisible". My first and logical reaction is to think that she had a neurologic disorder.Anyway, i never saw an illness who can create THAT! the voice, the attitud, the bruises.i don't agree at all to think that JC was near her. But i could beleive some bad spirits took her like a puppet. terrible. it's because she wasn't protect that she was vulnerable
This girl is expressing the illogical twisted nature of the church, she doesnt use logic and reason however because her fundamentalist family havent given her such tools. So all she had to use was images of demons and sin.
Sarebbe bello se qualcuno traducesse questo documentario in italiano. I sottotitoli in inglese sono già qualcosa, ma faccio un po' di fatica a seguire la vicenda completamente. Spero davvero qualcuno si prenda la briga di fare questo lavoro.
I do not believe that there is a place such as hell, "ashes to ashes dust to dust you shall return".
BPLucifer 1 month ago
She needed medical care and those catholics killed her.
BPLucifer 1 month ago
@BPLucifer die and go to hell
paneksshops 1 month ago
if a thousand people read the Bible without any other form of guidance or instruction they would all interpret it exactly the same!
dawnB1967 3 months ago
Im a christian and watching anneliese can be scary but confusing too, the things the demons said don't make sense, not that they have to make sense of course, but starting with anneliese, saying Mother God talked to her, Jesus said the ONLY way to the Father is through him, there is no Mother God, there is no Holy Virgin, Jesus never said that, the fact that Mother God told her to suffer so other souls wont go to hell is a lie, each person is responsible for their acts,
aprilazaaa 4 months ago
@aprilazaaa Bearing in mind that all religions are different and seem to contradict each other over and over,even christians have differing views to each other.Over the centuries the bible has been played with and changed so many times that to believe in it would in my opinion be a mistake. Also the translation is very very poor so it doesn`t make much sense at points also the vatican has held away from the public many many of the tapes,we only see a small part of it. Peace :)
tintin777ful 4 months ago
@tintin777ful ,I doubt you have read and seriously study the Bible to be so sure the bible has been changed so many times, you really need to study, the bible invites you to chalenge it, to question, to compare with history, people that doesn't believe in the bible is people that has never studied it or chalenged it ( sorry for my english. Im still learning) people who believes only what other people who call themselves "experts" in the matter say but they never prove it, they give mere theories
aprilazaaa 3 months ago
so i invite you to really question both sides, to study both sides, and open your mind to it, with no predjudices, God bless!
aprilazaaa 3 months ago
@aprilazaaa I totally agree, there are no scriptures that instruct christians to worship Mary. In fact in Mark, Mary calls for Jesus to end his preaching work even calling it madness. God is also not three in one, God is one. I too find the Catholic religion very confusing.
Also for those here suggesting that the Bible has been changed, that is also wrong. Words may have been used where translation failed but the interpretation is still the same.
dawnB1967 3 months ago
Which one
eliteinventor 5 months ago
@FirexXxAngel By the intercession of St. Michael and the celestial Choir of Powers, may the Lord vouchsafe to protect our souls against the snares and temptations of the devil. Amen.
tanmara01 5 months ago
@FirexXxAngel WHY? GOD is ALL GOOD. GOD is ALL LOVE. Satanic people promote the ungodly ways: Abortion, Gay marriage, Drugs, Sexual perversion, Divorce, family immorality. I can go on and on and on, but your ways are not my ways saith the LORD. To believe in GOD is to believe in absolute GOOD, but satan's ways make evil good and good evil. You, my friend are an oxymoron as you speak. You say one thing, but do another. I, on the other hand, make GOD first in the way I live my life. GOD be with U
tanmara01 5 months ago
Sir, the case of Anneliese Michel is a real curious one, a real mystery. Most people here, including myself don't fully understand what really happened to her in the end. If you have the gift of seeing that, and other such things, feel blessed. But with great power comes great responsibility. All towers starts with one floor, sometimes a whole tower has to be stripped down to start building a new one. But it's not our place to do that in a social setting way. Wrong aid can turn into sin.
M3town3 1 month ago
@FirexXxAngel Oh, you will know GOD exists!!! "The Warning" will show this. When it does, I know you will either be for heaven or be for hell. Either way, your soul will carry on, either in joy or in pain. It is up to you because GOD gave us all choice. I choose GOD over man because man is flawed because of choice. The Warning will give you the choice and you will know it is from GOD, at which point I pray you make the correct choice, GOD. GOD be with you in the events to come.
tanmara01 5 months ago
@FirexXxAngel Another thing, if you consider the Earthquake (5.8) in New York or the floods where people today still do not have electrical power as nothing, then I suggest you examine yourself, but there are still events to happen before this year is out, so I suggest that you pray in whatever manner you know for this country. I live in this country, but I have seen it gradually degrade with the unbelief in GOD. The unbelief will be our undoing. Jesus, I trust in YOU
tanmara01 5 months ago
@FirexXxAngel I have had a more important dream concerning "The Warning". I know about it, because I had it in Dec of 1999, but I will have it again when it happens for the world. I suggest you prepare your soul, because hell is real and waiting for souls like yours to enter it. I pray for you, but little good that will do if you are not open to it. GOD bless you in the coming events.
BTW: Yes I am praying and my dream indicated Sept. 11. I don't take it lightly.
SAVE A SOUL, SAVE YOUR OWN
tanmara01 5 months ago
There is few things that puzzles me, but here is the question: could and of us produce such sounds, with such intensity, and most importantly with a duration she or if you belive in this demons did?
If she has been as tormented and tiresome as she was, were did the streinght came from?
BaronHerezus 6 months ago
just 1 question.... 1 question...... how do you know she spoke "different languages" if you did not understand what she was saying....? If i randomly start speaking tongues does that mean i speak Latin, Greek, Italian, German? Don't get me wrong i might conjure a word or two out of what i've heard before OR out of simple chance but seriously, unless someone actually did speak multiple languages could approve that she was legitimately saying something then i would accept this as proof of posesion
JBatistaCPhT 8 months ago
Germany said yes to abortion, to wars, to kill the Jewish, remember! this country has majority of Protestants! Lutherans! they said yes to kill the jews to Hitler because Luther in his diaries said with all words "that Germany should get rid of the jewish, this hatreful race who made our people slaves". these are the words of Luther. Why the surprise for Hitler? Germany denies the existence of demons, of hell because all Europe now serves hell, including USA, another country of sins and heretics
laurids2007 8 months ago
of course is difficult to talk about this case in Germany. I live in Germany and this country is the father of the great Apostasy! Since Luther this country denies the existence of the demons - but Luther in his diaries confess with all words he knew he was also possessed by demons! But Germany worships him as their martyr. Of course Germany denies the existence of demons because Protestantism and all sects from it are apostasies. This is what the Church must say out loud but is silent!
laurids2007 8 months ago
Whether Anneliese was possessed or had a mental illness, the end result is a sad one.
Bless her
mamby101 9 months ago
Two camps. Two factions. Two different views.
Why must those with faith and those without argue over such matters? Neither of you KNOW the truth any more than a pebble knows of it's existence. You may have faith in science, or you may have faith in religion, the choice is your own and neither belief is more or less valid than the other. What each side shouts with vehement conviction is, and will forever be, nothing more than a guess.
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@TheDiplococcus YOUR STATEMENT IS NOT TRUE, NOT SO. GOD IS TRUTH. GOD IS FACT. People want to say, "GOD does not exist". So you also say that with your statement not believing in such things as demons. To be complacent about such things is what the devil wants. The most wicked one wants us to think that demons are a guess. I personally know your are wrong. You will not know until you are dead when the demons drag your SOUL away while you are screaming, "WHY"? It is because you didn't believe!
tanmara01 5 months ago
Just dont worry about the ignorant they will jus be ignorant...we know spirits are real etc and that truth is stranger than fiction with alot of things so just don't worry about the people who think they know it all but don't know a damn thing other than what they are told.
TokenPictures111 9 months ago
You can look at this any way you wish, but if she was possessed then she wouldn't talk about money (she did), and blah blah blah... I could go on and on.
But looking at the facts, she was raised in a heavily religous family, taught all about the tales of the old roman gods, to cut a story short she was a firm believer.
If it was mental illness, it seems way more likely.
she seemed to be stuck in a Epileptic Psychosis, deprived of water and sturring in her own little world, she convinced herself.
wfg 9 months ago
@wfg You will see, but it will be too late for you. Sorry about that, I have no control on non-believers who are the reason why GOD is going to keep trying to give mercy for as long as He can to bring as many to Him as He can. You will see. The time is very short. The next place that will get hit is California. It will be Sept, Oct. No need to post back, I won't reply. To busy praying for reparation. GOD bless you
tanmara01 9 months ago
Christianity was not established as a "religion" till the days of salems lot, christianity had people fearing the supernatural or "witch-craft", Christianity tried to keep us in the dark ages, believing that technology was evil or to do with "witch-craft"!.
Anneliese had studied other languages, including Latin (which is supposed to be the language of Hades).
wfg 9 months ago
am i the only one here that gets creepd out by the demons voice?. it sounds so extreme! i was like. OMG! from now on im christian. i will do anything to get to heaven.
AloneBurn 10 months ago 2
@AloneBurn can't buy your way in my friend but it is good that you wish to be christian. All the stuff so many claim not to be real is, possession, demons, evil spirit, God, angels, and the devil are all real. So, is heaven and hell! I had personal experiences with a possessed person, I have personally dealt with evil spirits and I guess you could say angels. I was an atheist for about 14 years never gave it thought at all until stuff started happening I couldn't explain. Can be scary GB
2ravenf0x2 10 months ago
@2ravenf0x2 u must have missunderstood me. i was simply hiding myself(protecting) because. i have experienced on several ocations (demonic forces) i do deal with this often. i even had a priest in my apartment to flush demons out. iv woken up with shaking bed and iv even experienced doors slamming shut. handles shaking... but it stopd. and im a real christian. no worrys. i was just messing around.
AloneBurn 10 months ago
@AloneBurn ah k sorry for misunderstanding. Must have been rough for you i'm glad thing are better. May the Lord continue to protect you
2ravenf0x2 10 months ago
ALL, Go look this guy up, Stanley Villavicencio. He has been promoting Divine Mercy since 1993, has been heard in every language miraculously and hasn't been sick a day since 1993 when he was given the mission to promote Divine Mercy by JESUS CHRIST Himself. Look Stanley up and then look up ferdinandart to see Ferdinand Rocconti.
WHOEVER WANTS PROOF, GO LOOK THEM UP AND GO HEAR THEM SPEAK.
SCIENCE CANNOT EXPLAIN GOD, BECAUSE GOD CREATED SCIENCE
WE KILLED GOD'S REAL PROOF, HIS SON JESUS
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 Actually, it's the other way around. Man created God in order to feel safe and protected. And science will eventually kill God.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 We could argue this point to no avail. Ulcers would develop from it. You can't prove it either, but there is better sense in believing that GOD created Man who created Science than the other way around.
It stands to reason that godless ways are ignorant to GOD. To have faith is a grace from GOD that you do not want.
My proof is FAITH, something you can't dispute because every man has his story. Just because you believe in science doesn't make you an authority on "NO GOD".
tanmara01 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 Science will NEVER kill GOD.
You may think you are living life to its fullest, and that us believers are foolish for not living the way you do, but on your last breath, your fear WILL overcome you, and you will wish that you believed in GOD.
You have been provided "scientific proof" of the existence of GOD and you have chosen not to accept it.
If I am right, you have much more to lose than I do. Eternal life is much better than the alternative.
Praised be Jesus Christ
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 LOL.There's no scientific proof for the existence of God.Just because religions attempt to give answers to existential questions regarding death/afterlife,providing thus the believers with a feeling of safety, that's not a reason for me to believe in God.Researchers indicate that religious individuals fear death more than either atheists.Did you know that?Religion appear to reduce the fear of the unknown, while it increases the fear of being destroyed & the fear of being punished.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 That is where you are wrong! The articles about this incident where the man died for 3 days scientifically indicates strongly that GOD exists. The doctors and medical staff who checked the documentation say it is a miracle from GOD. The doctor who had the case became a Priest. You don't want to except it, but science has said there is no explanation, except that this is a miracle from GOD.
Read the articles for yourself instead of giving your flawed opinion.
GOD exists.
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 If one could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people. It is as simple as that. Try to be a little bit more open-minded. Several other explanations can be given to such incidents.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
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tanmara01 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 You say GOD doesn't exist. Who is being open minded here? NOT YOU!!!
You are one who is close minded to GOD. I know that atheism exists and that you are one of those atheists.
Why don't you leave it alone? Because you are bent on proving what, that you are wrong?
You meddled where your shouldn't have and now you cannot gracefully say you are wrong.
You are wrong, because you are clearly out of your league when it comes to the existence of GOD.
Admit it, GOD exists
tanmara01 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 I am not asking you "an atheist" to reason with me, but don't ask for proof and put your big nose into places if you aren't going to accept the proof.
Chaff in the Wind, that is all you are, that will be purged when the time comes.
Keep believing the way you want and see if hell doesn't exist.
You have more to lose than I do when it comes to death.
I only lose 100 or so years. You lose an eternity.
To burn in hell is no laughing matter. If your open minded, then you know.
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 You talk like you know something but it is just shit,
if there was a god and he knew how you was talking then you wouldn't make it to heaven mate, listen to yourself forcing your views onto other people.
If there ever was a "god" then he turned his back on us a long time ago, when man invaded his golden city and tainted it, we were banned and cast from his city and forced to bring the taint back with us.
wfg 9 months ago
@tanmara01 yes and if the brain still has some life in it then a person can be "brought back from the dead" when in fact they were never truly dead in the first place.
It's fine that you need something to believe in, because cold hard facts just aren't enough for some people.
I have always been open minded to this type of thing but i'm reading what you are saying and all I can hear is blasphemy.
wfg 9 months ago
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tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 What about several other scientists who claim that God doesn't exist? But, yeah, I forgot you just stick to one point and refuse to see the whole picture.
LOL.Destroy God? That's not an atheist's goal. Basically because there's nothing to destroy. Except for human stupidity, which is infinite.
Lastly, I didn't call you any names. Why do you attack me? But sure, this always happen when people run out of arguments. So, from now on, I won't even bother to reply to you.Good day!
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 YOU ATTACKED ME FIRST.
Don't try to turn it around as though you are innocent. A holier than thou person. You attacked first.
GOD exists and for you to say otherwise shows how you can't stand the fact that HE does.
Science is a product of GOD and you will expire soon enough to find out the truth.
Keep believing in you atheistic ways that will take you to hell eventually.
Find out what eternal fire without consumption is OR
Be open minded to the idea that GOD exists....
tanmara01 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 Other scientists who have the same opinion as you.
No, I think I will go with the billions of people who also believe in GOD, not the few scientists who don't like yourself.
Get on board sister before it is too late. Noah also promoted the event that no one believed.
I am telling you, you had better change your ways or you will miss the boat.
Look at revelation. The cataclysmic event will come by fire.
Nuclear warfare? Coincidence??? No, GOD knows man and his science
tanmara01 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 THANK GOD, finally you get smart and say you won't reply.
What did you think you were doing in the first place by replying and promoting an idea that has no criteria whatsoever in your thinking?
You need to be open minded in your thinking and stay out of the fire.
Next time, say I am sorry, but that doesn't exist in your vocabulary, does it?
You could care less for ideas other than your own narrow minded ones.
GOD exists and you can't prove otherwise,but GOD proves He does
tanmara01 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 Human stupidity??? All those who don't agree with you are stupid? Goes to show what that degree in psychology earned you. A truly open minded education?
And you help people? How is that possible? You are calling GOD stupidity to a billion plus people.
Scientists like you are the reason why nuclear warfare exists. I would rather live without electricity and heat. Life would be more peaceful without your unGODly scientific ways.
Some science is good, but yours is not good.
tanmara01 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 I was wondering your take on the Anneliese Michel story?I am open minded I am a quantum physics and theory friend with a belief in something just not sure what yet. I have many good ideas but 100% not so much. The laws of attraction and psychology are also a huge aspect of my reasoning and belief systems however, I do have a feeling I have had since a very young child that something spiritually intelligent exists.Well we know that energy only changes its not created or killed
penbus492 10 months ago
@penbus492 This girl had too many problems,including epilepsy/seizures/episodes of paralysis/hearing voices/considered suicide/depressive symptoms/eating problems.One possible explanation: an extreme case of Dissociative Identity Disorder (many distinct personalities in the same person,mostly due to severe childhood trauma;the symptoms often resemble epilepsy & schizophrenia).DID may be misinterpreted as possession,where ''demons'' (the alters) take full control over the person.
Gothicromance111 10 months ago
@Gothicromance111 she couldn't walk past a jesus christ statue...when she was on a pilgrimage trip with a friend...explain that shit, and she was in perfect health at 22
zw0ecool 10 months ago
@zw0ecool She was not in perfect health. She had her first epileptic seizure at the age of 16, if I remember right. And no one knows what associations she had made with specific objects and what feelings they evoked. Maybe she was just hallucinating, or the fact that she was extremely religious eventually caused some kind of repulsion. Many possible explanations can be given.
Gothicromance111 10 months ago
@Gothicromance111 You are quick to draw conclusions of your own, yet when you have been provided from scientists other than yourself who have provided factual proof that GOD exists, you don't believe it.
You're an atheist and shouldn't poke your finger into matters that you don't understand.
An atheist has one purpose only, to destroy GOD.
You say that you don't meddle in others affairs. HYPOCRITE!!
You say there is no GOD because you are upset that You don't agree with GOD.
Face it GOD is
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 lmao!
proof of god's existence?
that's bullshit and you know it mate, do not chat crap.
The closest you could get to god is a super-nova!
wfg 9 months ago
@catbuithoi If science can not help me, I won't wait just stand there waiting for a miracle. Faith and religions are just social constructs which provide the believers with a false feeling of safety. Whereas, science provides evidence! I'll keep searching for answers, relying solely on my own strength, not on primitive methods and beliefs.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
thanks for posting!!! but I wouldnt watch/ listen to the audio by myself!!
Nightsblossom 11 months ago
It wasn't completely their faults that she died. They took her to doctors, and they wouldn't help.
ilovemusic6666 1 year ago 7
@ilovemusic6666 Yes, I absolutely agree with you. They knew that Anneliese had a very serious problem of health and they FIRST resorted to all the medical assistance they had available, and doctors never could help her. What is happened after, corresponds to the family culture and religious beliefs.
lamaga2007 11 months ago
@ilovemusic6666 they tried to help her but she told them to stop because it was not working...they didn't know what to do.
zw0ecool 10 months ago
i love how everyone keeps saying she was mental and needed hospitalization
when she WAS hospitalized.
they didn't just go straight to possession. she was mentally institutionalized and when it failed to do anything, they looked at other avenues.
how do you explain
a girl not knowing other languages
suddenly being able to speak them? is that mental illness too?
mirandaisgreat 1 year ago 21
@mirandaisgreat yea i know ..thank you..at least you have a brain!
BrownEyez6890 1 year ago
@mirandaisgreat Patients with dissociative identity disorder have the ability to speak languages they do not know.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
@mirandaisgreat she couldn't walk past a jesus christ statue that's when they figured she was possessed.
zw0ecool 10 months ago
@mirandaisgreat what language did she speak ?
fxdesca 10 months ago
@fxdesca
[in Latin language] I am the one who dwelt within NERO!
[in Greek language] I once dwelt within JUDAS!
[in German Language] I was with Legion
[In Assyrian Neo-Aramaic language] I am Belial
[possessed/English] and I am Lucifer, The devil in the flesh
mirandaisgreat 10 months ago
@mirandaisgreat she really spoke in all these languages ? Man thats just crazy
fxdesca 10 months ago
@mirandaisgreat It is mental illness ... does the demons, six of them right, needs the heart and brain of the body to be able to continue living through them... ? If it's really true, then how come the 6 demons, who couldn't pressumingly leave just "dissappeared" ?
deadmanavir 10 months ago
@mirandaisgreat people with "demons" don't speak in other languages they speak gibberish because theyre fucked up in the head. Religion is bullshit!
MANGOS487 8 months ago
"...let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. This is the 'stone that was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone'. NOR IS THERE SALVATION IN ANY OTHER, for there is no other name given under heaven among men by which we must be saved." -Acts 4:10-12 (emphasis mine)
Christ is the stone; how can another atone?
thelostreligion 1 year ago
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thelostreligion 1 year ago
Why was the parents charged as guilty ?? Can't see that
1337Egghuvud 1 year ago
wat?Annelisse had no power!The reason the spirits didnt leave was they claimed to hail Mary!why mary?she is not God..Jesus is!These priest were confused then & still now! catholic church does not Teach, it makes people/priest confused! Colossian 1:13: God rescued us from satan through jesus christ who sets us Free! Hello? Matthew 17:21,But an evil spirit of this kind is only driven out by prayer & fasting! READ the Bible people! we have holidays,yr system B.C&A.C, history etc OMG get with it...
urloveliness 1 year ago
I believe in Evil Spirits, but I do think this girl was sick. I heard crazy people and I saw them and they do look like they're possessed.ANyway, this girl suffered a lot and I'm sorry for her and for her family
guitarlawyer75 1 year ago
So what's with all these stories that Anneliese Michel spoke with 6 different voices? The tapes reveal all her personalities sounded exactly the same. What about the Preist's assertions these were not human voices? I guess he has never heard a death metal singer before? Shit, Diamanda Galas does better voices.
I feel sorry for Anneliese. The only evil spirits around her were the ones who prevented her guardians from giving her proper health care.
JimiLaMort 1 year ago
@JimiLaMort I see your point and I couldn't agree more. ;)
Even in patients with dissociative identity disorder, the multiple personalities can be distinguished and the voices also sound differently. This girl was probably mentally ill and unfortunately this is not the only case when a patient was neglected or medical treatment was simply not provided, for stupid religious reasons.
Gothicromance111 1 year ago
@Gothicromance111 If you do the research carefully, she was in medical treatment for years before the exorcism began.
JKB6106 1 year ago
@JKB6106 Yup, she was treated with powerful psychotropic drugs(since she was epileptic/suffered from depression+had suicidal thoughts).The medication she received had various side effects,which may have created some of the symptoms later on.If YOU do the research carefully you'll realize that it was just another severe case of dissociative identity disorder.During the exorcisms she no longer took the drugs.It was just a matter of finding the right treatment for her case and all her disorders.
Gothicromance111 1 year ago
the idea of the exorcism was primitive and stupid in the XXth century, unless it had worked by some sort of suggestion. but if she hadn't been exorcised she would have survived but continued to live a horrible life in an asylum drugged all day. science couldn't do much more for her than religion did. nevertheless, in the future, only science has the possibility to find a way to treat mental diseases right
atirisdes 1 year ago
I think if she had been hospitalized for severe mental problems( whatever the diagnosis was ), she was probably alive by now,
what do you think?
babak462 1 year ago
Anyone who doesn't believe in possession opens themselves up to being possessed. In revelation it speaks of a day that is coming where all the demons will be loosed upon the earth. I wonder if on that day when it comes, the demons will possess all those who don't believe in it. Don't fool yourselves by believing that demons don't exist. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT DEMONS DO EXIST. The devil loves it when people don't believe in the powers of hell that exist in this world, one being "POSSESSION".
tanmara01 1 year ago
@tanmara01 I know possession and demons exist, but do you know why we get possessed? check out my comment in the previous video if you want to check it out!
M3town3 1 year ago
@tanmara01 LOOOL... If you know ''for a fact'' that demons exist, prove it! And please, not by citing revelation or any other religious book, but with arguments and evidence.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 ON the day you die, there will be proof enough, but for you, it will be too late to believe in anything else other than hell. I will pray for you today, but to want proof takes years of belief. Remember we only live individually maybe 100 years, and GOD is timeless, so you had better pray for proof because time is running out for you. Like I said I will pray for you, but your free will could very possibly send you to hell. Once you get to hell, it's forever & too late for proof
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01''Belief'' doesn't result in ''proof'', just because you want it to.Only science can provide credible evidence,since it requires critical thinking & years of research.Faith in God on the other hand,gives nothing but a promise of an afterlife & a protection from the fear of death.As for prayer:this is the definition of how to do nothing and still think you're helping.Thanks but I'd rather burn in hell and preserve my free will,than being a blind follower of a religion.No offence.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 Go look up Stanley Villavicencio who died for 3 days and the doctor who treated him became a Priest.
Then do a google hit for ferdinandart to Ferdinand Rocconti. He was blind for 3 years with a disease called Myasthenia Gravis. There is no cure for it and he was healed, but the miracle of his story is, "while he was blind, he painted". Ten doctors witnessed it and he was cured without medication.
They both speak to Jesus daily.
No offense but how can you want 2 burn in hell?
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 Yes, there are medical mysteries, things that can not be explained yet and yes, doctors and scientist do make mistakes/misdiagnoses and so on. However, this does not suggest that God is responsible for every ''miracle''.
And the answer is simple. I don't believe in God, hence I don't believe in hell.But since you mentioned the issue of free will... Well, for me the most terrifying part would be not having free will. ''Hell'' doesn't scare me.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 Hell: to be eternally consumed by tormented fire without being consumed. The thought is pretty scary to me, but the actual existence of being there would be worse for anyone. I don't wish that on my worst enemy.
If you have skype, I would offer that as a form of communication if you would like, but nothing is pointless.
Everything is a plan, preordained. You and I are not chatting for no reason. It was planned, so don't ever think "pointless" to shut the door.
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 Like I said, I don't believe in hell.
And by ''pointless'' I mean that I've seen many people trying to ''promote'' their religion or convert others, even if you say that this is not your goal. Your beliefs make no sense to me and I don't expect that you will ever understand mine point of view either.
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tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 Don't fool yourself.I don't want to believe in any God.I'm an atheist.Being a psychologist though,I've learned to accept all kinds of beliefs,even if they don't make any sense to me.And since thanatology has been my main interest throughout the years and the area of my research,I couldn't help but acknowledge the importance of religious faith in death attitudes.However, religions are just social constructions.
+Being dead for 3 days is not a unique phenomenon.Just an abnormality.
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tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 There are documented cases of people who have been dead for years actually.
Tolerance, acceptance and empathy on your opinion are hypocritical? I have my own beliefs, yes. However, these do not interfere with my work, since I don't feel the need to convert anyone or alter somebody's world view. I accept people for who they are and this includes respecting their beliefs.I don't need to be religious myself to understand that a person is in pain and needs help.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 Yes, there have been documented cases, but none for 3 days in the 20th century!!! That is a MIRACLE with all the technology that we have today.
You say belief doesn't interfere with your work? How do you explain GOD to people? Do you tell the people you help that GOD is a social construction? If you don't, then who is being hypocritical here? It certainly isn't me! Sure you have your own beliefs, but you commented to me wanting proof, not accepting what I said. Hypocritical?
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 It's not my job to ruin their world by proving the non-existence of God and also I'm not a priest to explain God. If faith makes them feel better, who am I to judge this or take this away from them? That would be unethical.
And the reason I commented you was because you spoke of ''facts''. Leave facts and evidence for science. Religion is based solely on one's personal beliefs and aspirations.
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tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 If God is perfect, why did he create a world full of imperfections? People aren't perfect, nothing in this world is perfect. How could the perfect God create something that is not perfect? People are suffering/dying and your perfect God does nothing.
Yes, people make mistakes, only to learn from them and move forward in order to do something greater.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 GOD is perfect...We are created to fill the thrones that were emptied out of heaven because of the fallen angels. I read books just like you, but I read the books of the saints. I do not live for this world, I live for heavenly reasons. I am human just like you but strive to be a saint. This is the only task that keeps me going.
I see that you do not know heaven unless you see it for yourself. but I do know that if you knew my life, you would not challenge the existence of GOD
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 If God was perfect, he would have created a perfect world, with perfect human beings, without pain and suffering.
Well, I try to live my life to the fullest, because this is our only chance to live, here and now, cause they may be no afterlife!
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 Also: poeple are put through tests and this world is very deceptive to say the least. When it says in the bible that the way to hell is wide and the way to heaven is narrow. This is true, and the time is short.
The world is not getting better, it is getting much worse. Even with all its flaws though, the mercy of GOD is abundant. Mercy is being poured out right now, but justice is right around the corner.
The devil is atheism, so don't say yes or no to the possibility of GOD.
tanmara01 11 months ago
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@Gothicromance111 To give you scientific proof of someone who died for 3 days was leaving it to science.
You replied, Science makes misdiagnosing/mistakes. This is what you replied so science is flawed, so why leave it up to science? Leave it up to GOD Who is perfect.
Yes it is a personal fact, and your comments concerning GOD are certainly the unethical part of this communication.
Psychologist, You with your science is flawed, and for that reason, you lack the knowledge of our perfect GOD.
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tanmara01 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 Another thing? If you do tell people that GOD is a social construction, and one of those people should die in the course of your care, you will be accountable for changing that persons' FAITH when you die.
If, to affect another persons' belief causes the harm of that individuals' soul as to make that person end up in hell, on "YOUR" dying day, that person will judge you before CHRIST for changing their belief in GOD.
Ones' FAITH IN GOD should never be disturbed at all costs.
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 Did you even read my reply? I do not try to affect people's beliefs, it's none of my business. They have their own point of view and I have my own point of view.Whatever makes one happy.Sounds fair enough.I wouldn't do the same mistake as many ''believers'' , who repeatedly try to shove their religion down your throat, even if you don't want to.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 YES, I would love for you to believe in GOD, but that you say that there is no GOD is reason enough for me to reply to you. You wanted proof and I provided it, but that was not enough for you. It is your own problems surrounding your own beliefs that stop you from believing in GOD. What can I say, I am grateful to have faith. I am thankful for the proofs that GOD has provided to me. I wish you could have that, but I can't give that to you. You have to want GOD in your life.
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 Nothing is stopping me, believe me. I am happy with my choices and I am grateful that I am free from any kind of religion. And it's true, there's nothing you can do about it, because I don't need any God to give meaning to my life.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 Hopefully those choices are not hindering you from GODS' mercy.
You have made the conscious choice not to believe, not because there isn't any proof, but because you have decided that there is no GOD for your own reasons.
GOD has not shut the door on you, you have shut the door on GOD.
There are many things in this world that are unexplainable and GOD is one of them.
You commented on wanting some proof, and I gave you scientific proof that you said is flawed.
GOD is GOD
tanmara01 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 AND when it comes to accepting people for who they are, you certainly went against your own beliefs by saying something to me.
If it is proof you want, then believe the proof that is given to you on a professional level instead of making your own opinionated statements without looking into the scientific proof personally.
I happen to know Stanley Villavicencio personally and so I know the facts surrounding the case.
It is not just belief, it is fact.
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tanmara01 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 LOL, being dead for 3 days is not a "UNIQUE" phenomenon? Show me another who has died for 3 days and who was scientifically documented as such in the 20th century??? LOL
You have to accept those who believe in religion because you are a psychologist?
I would hate to be under your hypocritical care. It is worst kind of care for someone who believes in GOD.
AND YOU will be accountable for that, when you die, that I am sure of.
Just hope that no one dies under your care.
tanmara01 11 months ago
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@Gothicromance111 It isn't my religion...Religion belongs to GOD. Your remarks as to how you believe shows much contradiction in many places, so I know that GOD is working in you. For you to be so abstinent to believing in GOD is the first sign of wanting to believe. You don't want me to believe otherwise or you would show me your proof. You have no proof for your remarks, but I have shown you scientific proof of a person who died for 3 days in the 20 century, a "MIRACLE" of GOD.
tanmara01 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 I do understand your point of view. I believed that religion was an mental institution, but I kept searching for the truth. The truth did set me free. I even committed the unforgivable sin of abortion several times. As perfect as I thought I was, I did not think much of myself after a time. Since mankind makes mistakes, history is repeating itself. The harvesting will soon come, and when it does, be on the side of GOD in all things, and yes, it is hard but I do love my enemy.
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 I've found my truth too, in science, which I serve.
I doubt that anyone can really love his/her enemy. If a person has hurt you in any way, you wouldn't just welcome him in your house with open arms. That would be foolish. Forgiveness would be perfect, but loving your enemy is irrational.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 To love your enemy is perfection and yes it is hard, but a day is coming that ALL will be accountable for their actions.
ALL the good "one" could have done and ALL the bad, will be shown to each and every one of us. On that day, there will be three kinds of people, the consolable, the un-consolable and the damned who will not care about the previous two. Noah is not a myth, it is a fact. This will be a precursor to the second coming of CHRIST.
It is right around the corner.
tanmara01 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 Also:if you can say that 3 days dead is not proof enough for you and that doctors makes mistakes, then your science is flawed.
GOD sends proof if you want to believe through science that is baffled by such events. It is up to you with that free will of yours to choose. GOD doesn't take free will away from us, man with its narrow mindedness takes it away by saying GOD does not exist.
Yea, we have live by laws that GOD has set up for us like, "Love Your Enemy". Can you do that?
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 Yes, every single thing on earth has flaws, there's no such thing as perfection. In fact there are many cases of people who have been pronounced dead, while they were still alive. Actually, this was very common in 19th century.
When you have free will, you also have the ability to doubt your God and everything else. But God doesn't want you to to doubt, God wants you to follow and obey.
Love my enemy? Is there anyone who can do that? Not just theoretically. I mean for real.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 You quoted, "This does not suggest that GOD is responsible for every miracle". I see that you believe in miracles, "an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause". So WHO is responsible for that supernatural cause? I know GOD is responsible.
It is just a matter of time before you know GOD is responsible for miracles. I will pray for you to get that understanding. GOD bless you bro
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 Don't try to paraphrase my words. I was just using the term you had previously used, so as to make a point. Cause whatever you consider to be a miracle in fact has a logical explanation. And once again, no need to pray for me. Don't waste your time. Do something more creative.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 Furthermore, ETERNAL LIFE is a much better criteria for believing than to believe in science that offers nothing except death. Your fearful life is your existence and on your last breath, you will be hoping that there is a GOD.
BUT when one does not believe in GOD, that person becomes conscience-less in their acts towards others & the acts of that person warrants hell here and after. ie:abortion
Don't become that person, despised by every1 even yourself.
Search for the truth
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 I guess you will be very disappointed when you die and there's no eternal life. Even if nothingness sounds scary I prefer to have realistic expectations and not to dwell in religious fantasies, only because this makes death sound less terrifying.
Furthermore, I don't need to believe in God to have a clear conscience and to be able to tell good from bad. I have a code of ethics of my own. I don't need any God to tell me about values and morality.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
@Gothicromance111 Well, like I said, I will pray for you even though you don't want it. Prayer is extremely powerful. You sound like a reasonable person with the same ingredients that man is made from, so I would like to offer you to talk on the phone if you are USA based.
I am not hear to convert you.
You see, everything is a leap of faith. Your proof is your existence for what it is worth.
THIS I KNOW: My faith in GOD is stronger than any concept of yours.
tanmara01 11 months ago
@tanmara01 No, I'm from Greece. But still, it would be pointless, I believe.
Gothicromance111 11 months ago
Regardless of whether she was possessed or mentally ill, it is clear she offered herself for sinners. If it were no longer necessary, because Christ has paid the price, then why did He ask his disciples to pick up their crosses and follow Him? He also asked his disciples to be baptised with the same baptism, meaning baptism in blood. Anneliese is a martyr, a willing sacrifice for sinners, following in the steps of Jesus, regardless of whether she was possessed or not. Thank you Anneliese.
kathleenallenvideos 1 year ago
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I agree with tuskaiae- the constant fighting about religious truth disgusts me too. Spirituality is inside of the person and however that person chooses to worship God is between them and their Maker.Faith and spirituality require you to believe in something you cannot see and fully understand until you die. May Annelise rest in peace and may each of us find peace. If her example helps us on our own spiritual path then her death was not in vain.
tmariewat 1 year ago
I agree with tuskaiae- the constant fighting about religious truth disgusts me too. Spirituality is inside of the person and however that person chooses to worship God is between them and their Maker.Faith and spirituality require you to believe in something you cannot see and fully understand until you die. May Annelise rest in peace and may each of us find peace. If her example helps us on our own spiritual path then her death was not in vain.
tmariewat 1 year ago
is this really real ????????????
kraver100 1 year ago
May she rest in peace.
SomethinUnforgivable 1 year ago
The court made the right judgement. This was an avoidable death of a young girl who was clearly suffering a mental illness. She lacked proper care by those untrusted with her well-being and who badly let her down. If nothing else, this story shows that religious superstitious beliefs and rituals such as those perpetuated by the Catholic church can be dangerous and result in people ignoring common sense.
xenbay 1 year ago 2
@xenbay YES SHE NEEDED MEDICAL HELP. But you sayin she was only suffering from a freaking mental illness makes you look completely ridiculous. You obviously just don't want to believe in it. I don't LIKE the truth of what happened to her, but did you even listen to the freaking tapes....??? People with mental illnesses don't ..do.that.
irhjma30000 1 year ago
@irhjma30000 You have obviously never heard of schizophrenia then. People with this illness often hear voices and speak in different voices. They may take on different "personalities" believing they are demons etc. It does not mean they are possessed or there's anything supernatural going on.
xenbay 1 year ago
@xenbay hearing voices and speaking with a different-sounding voice is one thing. what was heard on those tapes....please. that is proof right there. i don't see how a girl could make a voice like that. and what about her mother witnessing her daughter being thrown to the ground and against walls. the bruises on her face and her cracked teeth show that too. honestly, i'm not saying this was handled as it should have been, but you obviously don't want to believe in anything that is unpleasant.
irhjma30000 1 year ago
@irhjma30000 The fact you heard the voice coming from the girl, shows that the girl made the voice, using her own physical vocal chords which were clearly capable of making the sounds you heard. It wasn't a demon or any spirit entity. According to eye-witness accounts of her injuries they were self-inflicted, she would hit her head against the wall. A court with a jury found the Catholic priests and her mother guilty of causing her death. They examined all the evidence in great detail.
xenbay 1 year ago
@xenbay that does not show she herself made the voices. that's ridiculous.
irhjma30000 1 year ago
@xenbay people with schizophrenia do not take on different personalities what so ever. they become confused and very unorganized. They also may speak in a way that doesn't make sense, but they don't take on different personalities nor do they speak in difference voices.
glmsgirl 1 year ago
@glmsgirl Thanks for pointing this out, I think meant "dissociative identity disorder" apparently it's often confused with schizophrenia.
xenbay 1 year ago
@irhjma30000 It's very possible for someone with a serious mental illness such as schitzophrenia or multiple personality disorder to speak with different voices. Humans have two sets of vocal cords. And sometimes both can be active. Tibetan monks use both sets quite often.
FireStar32005 1 year ago
oooh.Now,..'I' C, Look, Hitler was that shitty, A#$ H$%e, that He could'nt even make the place in hell after death..That's y that gate keeper of hell kick him from the hell..U really deserve this Bastard..!!! N that Girl, 'Anneliese' Won over u Sucked Demons..R.I.P..!!!
nirsh1000 1 year ago
The fact is the Devil DOES exist. Just as God exists.
FireStar32005 1 year ago
@FireStar32005 Neither exist. There's absolutely no proof or scientific evidence to suggest they do.
xenbay 1 year ago
Blasphemy........The cross of Christ was victory, Catholic Church is a false religion.
mlj25 1 year ago
@mlj25 Plz think before you write,you will be judged by every word which comes out of your mouth.
shaioliver 1 year ago
@mlj25
You are right. Those priests say this was a victory, but in fact,
it was a complete failure. The girl was sacrificed by Satan, and most likely, the virgin mary that talked to her, was Satan himself.
Anneliese Michel, she was such a beautiful young lady and yet, has been destroyed by Devil. May God take care of her soul.
NakedSnakeBlGBOSS 1 year ago
@NakedSnakeBlGBOSS its very possible, the Bible itself has no word on Virgin Mary being able to do the things they believe she can do, it would have been an excellent compromise to fool the priests
dairyduck 1 year ago
HEY TUSKAIAE I AGREE WITH YOU, GOD IS WHAT MATTERS
goldenboy28100 1 year ago
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Thank you for posting and translating this disturbing film. Prior to viewing this I had a grudging respect for the often intellectually complex theological beliefs of the religious. But after watching this documentary and noting the obstinacy with which the surviving participants in this tragedy cling to their medieval delusions about this poor dead girl's mental condition and their own shameful part in her deterioration - it made me angry that such stupid people exist in this world.
cutecat216 1 year ago
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cutecat216 1 year ago
maybe the message of possesion is not about a girl against bad spirits maybe it's all about human's religion, we made christianity,muslims or what so ever, the importance is we need to knew that God is really existing and you can be save not only by religion!
6digit 1 year ago
at first it was kinda believable that she was infact possessed but now i'm pretty sure that she was just mentally ill.
if she knew Kain and that priest then it's entirely possible that it was all just in her head.
skaplis 1 year ago
@skaplis thats it..just mentaly illnes..
naik2222 1 year ago
interesting documentary.I'm not religious at all.No power (like church) could lead me in my spirituality. i'm a human being who beleive to "the invisible". My first and logical reaction is to think that she had a neurologic disorder.Anyway, i never saw an illness who can create THAT! the voice, the attitud, the bruises.i don't agree at all to think that JC was near her. But i could beleive some bad spirits took her like a puppet. terrible. it's because she wasn't protect that she was vulnerable
lexomillia 1 year ago
Poor woman =/ I hope her God has given her peace.
AquilaRomana8 1 year ago
it did,nt work she died,
bricardiff1969 1 year ago
If there is a hell, anybody who makes another suffer in the name of religion is going there
surethang27 1 year ago 2
This girl is expressing the illogical twisted nature of the church, she doesnt use logic and reason however because her fundamentalist family havent given her such tools. So all she had to use was images of demons and sin.
headcr0b 1 year ago
As a Catholic, her unwavering faith is very inspiring.
f4roxmysox 1 year ago
Hey...DIMWITS! Comment on the video...not some worthless comment on religion as a whole.
The91stallion 1 year ago
Sarebbe bello se qualcuno traducesse questo documentario in italiano. I sottotitoli in inglese sono già qualcosa, ma faccio un po' di fatica a seguire la vicenda completamente. Spero davvero qualcuno si prenda la briga di fare questo lavoro.
airbag97 1 year ago