Stranded Orca 'Morgan' at dolphinarium Harderwijk

[DoveDancing]

This is SICK. BETTER TO DIE WILD AND FREE THAT EXIST IN CAPTIVITY... THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE!

[ropich]

Morgan deserves the right to be set free in accordance with the plan developed by the scientists that have formed the Free Morgan Foundation.

[riemertje]

@ropich it's unbelievable that we do this

[ropich]

Seaworld and the Dolphinarium's shameless argument that her reintroduction to the wild is no longer possible is merely intended to secure Morgan for their captive breading (they are out of females) and entertainment programs. Shame on them they make me sick. The Netherlands government, by authorizing her transfer to Seaworld, is complicit in enslaving an intelligent and beautiful animal.

[ropich]

Morgan should not be prostituted out and sold into in some Seaworld amusement park. The original plan when she was recovered was that she would be reintroduced to the wild. Much of the scientific community believes that this plan is still viable. There is precedent to show that this is possible as is evidenced by the reintroduction into the wild of Springer, an orca caught in similar circumstances off the pacific northwest coast of Canada/USA.

[KZCrazyyy]

Aww thats too shallow and small :(

[riemertje]

unbelievable what a small tank. Now the Orca can't go back to the sea, THANKS HOLLAND

[ropich]

@riemertje SHAME ON THE NETHERLANDS

[ropich]

SHAME ON THE NETHERLANDS

[HiLaXx]

so sad ..

[ValkyrieLee]

I cried. This is horrible. Animals aren't for entertainment!

[BardleyCfan]

@ValkyrieLee Don't even start this!!! What about the many who live in the wild and loves interaction?? They become lonely and what are we suppose to do than??

[ValkyrieLee]

@BardleyCfan ?? why are you tagging me?

[SpectreWriter]

@boodylover86 Actually, if you were paying attention instead of running off with what is relatively rudimentary understandings, you'd have noticed that males flop over. Female dorsal fins are nowhere near as tall, so you don't see that with them. Bottlenose fins are far shorter still, with a thicker base. But if the pen is too small (and what pen ISN'T when they do 100-200 miles a day just meandering) then that is obvious proof that we cannot give them proper habitat and exercise. Duh.

[SpectreWriter]

@boodylover86 Uhm no. Lolita's mother is pushing 100 and still alive and strong, the matriarch of her pod DESPITE the fact that a good part of that pod was enslaved and killed when they took Lolita as a baby. 2) There is no GOOD aquarium. She's not a clever fish, she's a sentient, SAPIENT, sovereign being. Who are we humans to say what is best for an orca? Would you have chimps decide what is best for the humans they encounter?

[guva2212]

And this is all about the money, she is a cash cow, how sad:((((

[SpectreWriter]

@boodylover86 Wrong answer. Cardio-vascular systems are what keep the dorsal fin erect; it flops because of ill health, but is more pronounced on males because the dorsal is taller. "Everyone here" doesn't know, and fewer still recognize the import of differences between cetaceans. "Formal Exercise," huh? Sell that to someone who doesn't know better. And the additives do nothing for the toxicity. Then there's the other meds given to counteract captivity. ONE in captivity or isolated is too many.

[Kyofighter93]

@SpectreWriter Well dont short change him he isnt wrong. The main factor to you is that the cardio vascular system doesnt have the suffiency to stabalize the dorsal fin, but that is contributed to the lack room that the animals are subjected to. The dorsal cannot stabalize because like he said, there is just simply not the room for it to stabalize.

[SpectreWriter]

@Kyofighter93 Yeah, he is. You guys are pretty circular in your little logic track. Maybe that's why you don't mind that they're keeping an ORCA in a BATHTUB. Not enough room? Not enough EXERCISE, which is why the cardio-vascular system is impaired, which is amongst the reasons why they must not be kept in little tubs. So yes, he IS wrong, and more wrong still for trying to justify this.

There are a few of us who have stepped away from the Captive Industry's kool-aid and willing to say truth.

[Kyofighter93]

@SpectreWriter Logic track.......okay well the ill give you some of my logic. The collagen in the dorsal fin of killer whales is uneven due to the amount of uneven pressure on the fin. The orcas in the wild dive to the depths of 300 or more feet and thats the pressure that keeps the fin in lined and erect and as you have stated these bath tubs are not sufficent enough to sustain the fins of an mature bull. Im not ruling out the other possibles of the this phenomena, but i like both factors.

[Kyofighter93]

@Kyofighter93 By the way I noticed you lived in chicago; I am going to assume you dont visit any aquariums, but maybe I'll see you around.

[SpectreWriter]

@Kyofighter93 FROM Chicago. And you're right, I wouldn't go to the Shedd. Their educational value? Some guy asked, AFTER that educational program, how they got the dolphins back in from Lake Michigan to do the shows. Nuff said.

[SpectreWriter]

@Kyofighter93 Bottom line remains that we have no business keeping them captive at all... and even less doing so in these little tubs.

[SpectreWriter]

@boodylover86 You have NO idea what you're talking about. Shall we lock you up in something like that? "Whales in captivity are good where they are" huh? Then why does their dorsal fin flop over when a wild HEALTHY dolphin's does not? (Orcas are DOLPHINS, not whales. That's a misnomer.) Why? Because their circulatory system is depressed. Because they're fed frozen/dead fish, have no exercise to speak of, and are isolated from their pods. This is decades of suffering, not at all doing ok

[savecetaceans]

She looks so sad, is this her tank. is this it?? She can't dive? she can only go back and forth? :(

[ninjawanda]

@savecetaceans yeah this is her tank. she's still in this same one since I've filmed this.

[savecetaceans]

@ninjawanda This is awful, I just don't have the words to describe how heartbreaking this is. doing all I can in the UK to raise awareness - London against cetacean slaughter - on facebook if anyone is interested in getting involved. How can this happen?! I thought man had come along way. But it would seem we have so so so much to learn.

[anouchka1980]

@savecetaceans the tank is to small for morgan.but hardewijk don't give a shit about that ,and that is just one of the milion facts.

[geertjanscholtz]

@savecetaceans It's still her tank, because the judge told today that she can't be moved to a bigger tank in spain where she got lot's of other killer whale friends. It's a beautiful animal and she should be moved to another group of killer whales, but some 'called' activists blocked the trip because they think she can survive in the sea alone... It's just a toddler in whale therms...

[savecetaceans]

@geertjanscholtz Personally I'm glad she isn't in the grasp of seaworld in the park in Tenerife. This whale would be much better off being rehabilitated in a seapen. If she was moved to an artificial pod there is strong chance they would not accept her. Also she would be taught to perform and probably be used in the captive breeding programme. All terrible things, although this tank is awful moving her to be on public display elsewhere is also not a good move.

[savecetaceans]

@geertjanscholtz Search for this on the web, : Kiwi helps win landmark case blocking killer whale's move. Should bring up and article worth reading. (I couldn't post link sorry)

[ropich]

She should absolutely not be sold to Seaworld and the tank in Tennerie Spain, where she would like a terrible life in slavery and prostitution. She should be set free pursuant to the reintegration and rehabilitation plan proposed by the Free Morgan Foundation. The proposal of the Dolphinarium is driven purely by greed. The Dolphinarium and SeaWorld are horrible organizations that should be boycotted for enslaving intelligent, beautiful social animals for their own personal gain.

[anouchka1980]

morgan do not go back to the sea thats for sure : ( ...

[SpectreWriter]

@anouchka1980 That is NOT "for sure". it is only that way if we allow her to be enslaved! FIGHT AGAINST THAT FATE!

[anouchka1980]

@SpectreWriter you need to read the newpaper of the netherlands listen to the people who work's there you will become les more sure that morgan stay there.and not go back to her ocean yeah sik i now just the tru

[ottomiglia]

Questa poverina sta impazzendo! Poi si lamentano che fanno degli scatti improvvisi o reagiscono male e causano danni agli addestratori

[janvantwillert]

The change of humans or Morgan her self will find her family is very likely, because that particular orca population comes every year between october and januar and in early spring close to the Norwegian coast. Placing Morgan in an open sea pen in Norway so Morgan her self or with help of her caretakers, who will follow and help her ever step of the way, can find her or a befriended pod. The plan for this release option made by top orca scientists you can read on freemorgan.nl

[xxfab08xx]

that tanks not big enough for a dolphin let alone a killer whale!!! they will never return her to the wild because she will make them money and they will not miss that chance cos they are greedy and selfish!!!

[siesss]

@boodylover86

I know that 99% of the dolphin trainers love their animals, and that they treat them with great care. But an orca in captivity is just as worse as an elephant in a circus. They need space we can't provide. And in the end it's all about the money,.. They are all commercial... It's not for nothing that the average lifespan of an orca/dolphin in captivity is so low.

I'd rather visit them in the wild.. /watch?v=PLYbwHakjTE . I filmed most of that. that memory is burned in my brains..

[siesss]

@boodylover86

The problem is that there is no good aquarium. I know that not all orca's reach that age. That's why I said: They CAN.. I'd rather utilise it, than to put in captivity. They've had an orca in dolfinarium till 1987. they tried to breed with her. She got a few calves. The last one turned out to be fatal for her. look for: gudrun captive orcas. And then the 4th site. All her calves are dead now btw. they just don't belong in captivity. Go and watch: The cove.... it's on youtube

[SpectreWriter]

@siesss The problem is that they are sentient, sapient, SOVEREIGN beings, and we have NO right to take their freedom from them, no matter what the excuse. "For their own good" is not an acceptable justification to keep her or any other cetacean in captivity.

[siesss]

@boodylover86

We saved her life, and in exchance for that we decide that she needs to do tricks and will swim in a small swimmingpool for the rest of her probably not even 15 years in captivity. while they can reach 50 to 80 years in the wild

[SpectreWriter]

@siesss Actually, longer. Lolita's mother is pushing 100 and still the matriarch of her pod.

[siesss]

I Already knew they weren't going to find her pod. That chance is so small. And it's ridicilous for a dolrinarium to spend thousands of euro's to look for her pod, while chances are almost zero. why do you think dolfinarium doesn't take dolphins or orca's from the wild anymore? And why it is forbidden by the dutch government sometimes 50% of orca's die during transport, because of stress, and it's just inhumane to put them in captivity.

[Knusperkeks1983]

poor little girl. her live ends there

[siesss]

Hahahahaha, do you really think they will release her??

They also said she wouldn't get in contact with humans. although, only if they really needed to. Now visitors can see her everysingle day... She is starting to get dependent on humans, and after a few more months they will tell everybody that they can't place her back, and they will come up with some lame argument..