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  • Yikes!

  • Vowel shapes...my only complaint

  • The awkward cough.....

  • I'm in love with the altos in this choir. usually 2nd alto is the part you can barely here in choirs. not here, nice and clear! bravo

  • i think that considering that this is a high school choir, they did a good job. I think there are some people here who are commenting on videos just to sound smart. Everyone needs to calm down and respect that this group has talent.

  • now if only the camera operator could have held the camera steady. That's what tripods are for and the way the best videos are created...so as to eliminate distractions... excellent musical performance - especially for a high school group !

  • Just want to put this out there, we worked on this for just a few weeks if I remember correctly. I know we could have been better, but for the amount of time we spent on it plus how many other songs we spent working on at the same time, I think we did ok.

  • I think yall did a good job on this song, i mean i heard one of the best choirs in texas sing this song and they sounded amazing lol keep it up

  • ....look at MVHS' performance of water night, and then you guys will be blown away.

  • As impolite as that is.....the performance gorilla speaks of is just incredible.

  • Love the alto's part.

  • we sang this song and i love the alto part but the altos were flat in this vid!

  • The vowels were a little lacking, and the overall tone was kind of bright, but the musicality was nice.

  • I was in there!

  • yay! I am in there

  • yes, very well job, we sing it in choir, too.

    but what happend in 1.50? ^^

    sorry about my english..

  • That's the actual chord.

  • Yes, that's the chord.

  • oh you're right. i thought because it sounds a little bit dissonant, but i saw it have to sound so :P

  • this is pretty good actually. nice to hear another highschool who is good too, and really pays attention to detail: the dynamic contrast, vowels and diction. very good.

  • wow, very well done. i think this is probably as good as a high school choir can do it.

    still... you need men with more mature voices to support the sound... it sounds pretty hollow without them! still props to you for putting it together so well.

  • It was hard being the only Bass II who could actually rumble down there. Looking back, I still think we did an okay job.

  • Fond du Lac in Wisconsin, i'm from wisconsin. wow, the eyes of shadow-water and open your eyes blew me away. very good. much better than my high school choir was. good job and nice performance.

  • yeah my parents do pretty well. and I have friends at Berklee. I was thinking about Berklee to go there for film scoring and Jazz composition. but i decided otherwise.

    Berklee is a REALLY good school but the tuition there is a lot too. Even with my parents doing well i will still finish with ALOT of debt.

  • One of my favorites! I was even hoping to see the Philippine Madrigal Singers' version of this piece. They superbly performed this song.=)

  • You guys should argue elsewhere, leave this area open for comments, not debates.

  • I agree, every choir has spots of needed improvement, your altos at 3:45 went flat, but all it takes is one person, it also has no accompaniment, and its a damn Erik Whitacre piece, the fact that your choir did that is AMAZING, my choirs doing cloudburst this semester, I was hoping when she said we were doing Whitacre we'd get this or sleep, but its a lot of fun. Great video, don't listen to the critics.

  • NICE!!! especially for a high school choir!!!

  • UN-BE-LIEV-ABLE!!!! This choir is AMAZING. Regardless of it being a HS, amateur, professional, college, WHATEVER. They're AWESOME. They have all those chunky chords RINGING! I'm studying to be a music educator one day and I HOPE i can get my choir to come near the quality that this choir has shown. I didn't think that a HS choir could do Whitacre justice, but they proved me wrong. (at the risk of sound trite or cliche) Bravo!

  • beautiful.

  • That low e flat for the basses is killer...unfortunately it's a half a step below the lowest I can hit so I had to be moved up to a higher divisi :(

  • E flat is a very important note for basses. because writers write E flats because they are low enough to be really low but high enough were people can still here it without a problem. i write them all the time.

    but usually when i write low E flats in songs im usually singing bass and i can get them no problem. I dont normally see music that too low for me. lol

  • Nice to attempt to sound enlightened...and bragging about how low you can go. I wouldn't say E flat isn't an important note for bass. I am pretty sure most (90+ percent) songs require a bass to be able to go as low as an E max and as high as an e 2 octaves above max. Lower is usually optional. Of course even though I sing bass in choir I am not an actual bass, but I am just 15 years old so who knows, I'll probably be able to hit that note powerfully in 10 years.

  • 90+ percent of songs have a low E flat in them? i have been studying choral music for 12 years and the amount of songs i have seen that go down do a low E flat is nowhere near 90+ percent. Im not insulting you i just dont think that that is true.

  • Re-read my post.  I did not say "90+ percent of song have a low E flat in them". How have you been studying choral music for 12 years when your profile says you are just 18? Just because you have been in choir for 12 years does not mean you have been studying choral music for 12 years.

  • Well i have been singing for 12 years and traditionally sutdying choral music for about 6 now composing for 3 years. and i am a freshman at the julliard school of music in New York. Trust me i know what im talking about.

  • I'm sure you do. An no sarcasm there, I'm being serious. I was just angry at the time of my posts :(. I failed to make All state choir this year. I'm no music expert unfortunately.

  • you said you 15? there will be plenty of time. What state?

  • Maryland. It actually came as a bit of a surprise to me because this year I thought my audition was very good whereas last year I thought it sucked and I made it.

  • yeah when i was living in Illinois the same thing happened to a good friends of mine. he was PISSED.

  • Haha, where did you live in Illinois?

    I made district IMEA this year (and I did sophmore year as well, but now I'm a senior) but couldn't go due to a previous engagement with community theatre, which I was forced to choose over the festival.

    I'm going to go to Millikin for Music ed. =D

  • I was looking there as well. I was looking at Julliard, Berklee, Western Michigan, and Millikin when I made my desicion. If you go there tell Stephen Weidenhoffer I say hi. (hes the dean of music and director of One Voice if you don't know)

  • Probably depends on the level of music, dang, thats a lot of time studying, how long do you study? Your tuition makes me cry, Julliard... God thats gotta take its toll on the wallet, scholarship or your parents got mad bank? I recently got mail from berklee, I'm probably going for composition. *High Five*, I've been writing music for a long time, I even have some random guitar work from middle school up here. Anyways... Julliard... Damn.

  • You should send me some of your stuff. Do you have Finale or something like that you can e-mail me some stuff.

  • Yeah, give it a few years, when your voice starts breaking try again, happened to me, I still sing tenor though, more fun, kids don't try to blast as much as the basses do, because they can't do it in there chest voice without sounding retarded, ahaha... Why are you arguing with a Julliard student? Thats bold and stupid.

  • HOLY SHIT!

    THAT IS RIDICULOUS

    This choir is like REDONK GOOD

    Kinda jealous, I should convince my Director to let us do this piece

  • I love how Eric Whitacre has a lot of dissonance in his music and how the melody goes with the lyrics.

    Beautifully done :) gave me chills

  • beautifully done. one of my favorite pieces by whitacre. especially for a high school choir.

  • Job well done!

    I love this song!!!

    But I do prefer it with a smaller group.

    My choir is singing it right now and we only have 18 people...

    But that is just my preference.

    Great job!!!This is a tough piece.

  • Very impressive that a high school choir pulled off this VERY tough piece.

  • Plus, if you listen, you hear people crying before the applause breaks out - it shows that moving performances don't have to be perfect, the group just has to want to hit it, you know? Anyway, be nice, and get your snobby heads out of where the sun don't shine - we are all guilty of it at some point or another, even me, but it sometimes takes another person to let you know - I love these choirs ;-)

  • PS, stop being offensive on here - how many of the people who posted rude things on here have videos up that rival the quality of this one? not many. Appreciate the music; it's not worth it to fight about the quality of the group.

  • By the way, the sopranos just soar - not screechy at all as we tend to be...eeesh, I'm not gonna lie - It takes a ton of busting your ass to get sound like this - props ;-)

  • the tenors have a great pure sound in this recording :-)

    Whitacre is incredibly difficult, and i really enjoy this recording - personally, i like darker vowel space, however, it's really up to the discretion of the director!

  • i am in this choir and am in this particular clip i am a tenor and happen to be standing in the front row and the reason we sang this pice is because it is dificult and it is a 16 pice harmony. you can only achive greatness by trying the great pices of music wich Fond du Lac Choirs definitly do. The main reason for poasting this video was for our choir members to watch and get better. Maby your choirs should do the same. Happy watching.

  • Music isn't competetive. You guys are very good, and you owe it to your director. But don't boast please. Music is universal, and if one person thinks they're better at it, then they don't truly understand it. Keep working at it though! :)

  • i dont see why everyone one is getting so offensive and defensive. this may not be the best but it is A HIGH SCHOOL choir! this is fantastic for high school level. and while their vowels aren't all perfect who cares. there are like 16 part harmonies in this piece! so props to the singers. grandiose.

  • yes yes. agreed.

  • look at all these choral experts in here. lol. i didn't know Robert Shaw & John Rutter had accounts on youtube.

    how arrogant can you be to say, "i've worked with mr. whitacre and he would slap you for ruining his piece".

    obviously, you missed something, because he's extremely humble and i'm sure he would feel honored having ANY choir sing his music. get over yourself . . . first of all.

    and 2, why are you idiots coming here to state the obvious?! i mean, is it really necessary?? it's music!

  • True dat. Music isn't supposed to put anybody down, it's not competitive. Rather, it's joining. "It's music!"

  • they need to blend with each other more. Throughout the song, individual voices stick out. This is an awesome song but was too advanced for this choir.

  • I have had the privilege of working with Whitacre, and I must say that he would have smack all of you upside the head for ruining his music. This was not to good, but I must say that it is a LOT better then most of the other videos you can find of this song on youtube.

  • Wow, you really have no knowledge of how singing diction works buddy! Granted, this group is not doing the best job with their pronunciation either, but "water" is one of the most important words in this entire piece. It needs to be stretched to its full potential in order for the listener to truly grasp the beauty in the text. If it was sung as "wah-tuh" with a slight 'r' on the end, it would sound AMAZING! But only emphasize the first syllable, and let the second be a schwa vowel.

  • Me? I was clearly just giving the opinion of the foremost English signing diction author that has ever written, but I'm sure you know more than her.

  • ...Dr. WOLD? IS that you??

  • Skinny is right. It sounds beautiful.. until they sing "waaTURRR"

    If they sang "waataaaah" with a slight "r" as they're cutting off the note, it would sound correct. That's how you have to sing.

    The way they sing it doesn't 'emphasize' the word, it makes it ugly.

  • My choir is also performing with Mr. Whitacre singing a combined Sleep and Lux Aurumque, however our choir is singing With a Lily in the Hand. Along with Desh by Dr. Sperry (Miami University) and O Nata Lux, not sure whom it's by.

    Olentangy Liberty Varsity Chorale

  • My choir is performing this song along with Sleep and Lux Aurumque in front of Mr. Eric Whitacre himself :)

    Hilliard Darby Symphonic Choir.

  • i'm a chorale major in my high school, i just wanted to say that the first time you hear the half notes of "water" you shouldn't make it wah der. it should have an emphasized Ter sound... but thats me. at the first fortissimo of eyes.... rounded vowels

    thats just my opinion though, don't take this as being mean, but as of constructive criticism. :)

  • my choir is singing this as well, and several top-notch instructors have said the exact opposite thing.

    wah-daa not wah-ter

  • Ok what top notch instructor are you talking to because you should always have the distinct ter diction when saying water, never wah daa. i would be suprised to see any top notch director say that...

  • I've always had directors who in instances like that say that it should have more of a British accent sound to it. That way it's like a mix of wah-tah and wah-ter, and it's not as harsh sounding. *shrugs* Whatever works best for the choir, I guess.

  • I would have been inclined to agree with you but my chamber choir sang witness first term and worked with Ronald Stalei on it. He is considered one of the best directors in the world right now and is over the BYU singers. He asked us to do something weird with one of our words so you never know who might say what.

  • Sheesh, I'm no vocal major but one of the foremost choral directors on the east coast teaches at my university (Dr. Peggy Dettwiler at Mansfield University) and when our men's chorus sang "Bridge Over Troubled Water", we were taught to sing water like, "wah-der". Though this might have been out of style - our arrangement was written gospel style, so it's possible that diction was appropriate for that style. So many different choices, who's to say who is right and who is wrong?

  • wah-tuh. Tuh should have the same vowel as in the word "put," possibly even more closed than that, and definitely rounded in the lips. That's what I have my choir do.

  • The vowel should be closer to the O in "pot" as if you were saying it with a British accent.

  • So many choirs singing this song on YouTube could not match this--I'm not saying it was perfect, though. There seemed to be some choppy parts and, as some ppl have pointed out, an overpowering of the sopranos.

  • St. Olaf gave me chordgasms on this piece. I think it's a big debate between who's better: BYU or St. Olaf.

  • Definitely BYU. It's really a more pure and refined sound.

  • Really? Huh...well, I'd have to agree after listening to BYU again. I still believe that they are both very reputable choirs.

  • Have you heard st olaf perform this piece UNBELIEVABLE

  • oh man. I love this song. we did this in highschool... I miss it.

  • The sweetest recording of this by Polyphony conducted by Steven Layton.

  • The New Jersey All- State choir did this song the best i've ever heard and i'm not only saying that cuz i'm in the chorus, but when the CD comes out i'm gonna put it on here, it's amazing.

  • Omg Me too!! Nj allstate yeah

  • too bright.

    words could be dragged out more too.

  • makes me wish the high school i attended back in the day hadn't had such a suckee chorus...

  • very good for a HS choir but painful if you've heard the BYU Singers recording, which is unmatched.

  • omg. i LOVE eric whitacre. this is the most amazing piece of music ever. this is the ballad for our marching show this year.

  • To msholmes I don't think the conductor is "restarting" the piece. I think he's just getting them to hold the first chord

  • Note to the conductor: Never, never, never, never, under any circumstances restart a piece unless the "train has derailed." It is embarassing for your performers when they have to account for your bad upbeat. Just go on, and they will follow.

  • yea, i am doing this song right now in my university concert choir, its not an easy piece. good job

  • Very GOOD for High School..

  • A little bright.

  • Quite nice, slightly choppy and less legato than we would, but for a High School choir, that is really a nice sound.

    The sopranos may overpower a tad.

  • After performing this piece, I'm sure they did, with the amount of times the director must have told the second sopranos to sing out whenever they held the dissonant parts!

    This is an extremely difficult piece, and your choir did a very good job on this piece! All I can say is taller vowels and better intonation, but that's getting nit-picky.

    Very well done!! Bravissimi!!

  • I personally thought the song was very good!!! I think you guys did a good job! Some notes sound a little shaky, but they are probably supposed to since I bet the notes clash (as in B and C). Good job! Really pretty!

  • very nice, but it's missing the solid bass line. the guys aren't that good yet lol.

  • haha. get over it? I think they did a good job for being a highschol choir with that many people in it.

  • Staggered breathing is a hard concept?

  • It's not that horrible. I think the worst part about this is the background noise coming from aound the area of the camera. They're obviously doing some amount of staggered breathing because otherwise it would sound like absolute crap. Maybe you should think before you post idiotic comments that aren't even relevant.

  • Oh of course, staggered breathing isn't relevant to WATER Night... Get it? It's supposed to sound like water? How hard is it to take 20 seconds out of rehearsal and say "you guys need to spread out your breathing so that it sounds smooth"?

  • No, it's not relevant because look at the way he's conducting it. He's putting points in there where they all regroup to add dramatic effect. And i'm pretty sure you're not Eric W. so stop trying to act like you know Everything there is to know about the piece.

  • Its because they havent been taught how to alternate breathes so the phrases make a seamless line, melting into eachother so it seems that no one is breathing. Its a hard concept for a highschool choir to get, but they did a good job with this song for highschool.

  • wow my marching band's playing a version of this for one of our movements this upcoming season. great job! wow the sound quality is rly good too.

  • Cool. I love this song so much, as well as Eric's other songs he did. I remember singing this song, along with the rest of the choir of course, during my Senior Year of High School last year. You guys did a much better job though. Great job, and well done....

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