How many missiles fired at the US from say Mexico would it take before all out war is declared? Shut up and don't talk about things that you know nothing about.
the french resistance in world war 2 were considered terrorists by the german administration. i am confused has to how israel managed to get hamas classified as a terrorist organization,if in fact that is a legitimate claim or fact etc. After getting a fairly good hiding in lebanon less than 2 years ago does israel want to scare their unwelcome neighbours by terrorizing a ghetto that israel made themselves. i have no solutions but no sympathy for an israel that does not learn from history
nonsense with the human rights, some people need to be punished harshly, in bibletimes god himself ordered many people to be killed,because they are useless and animals,they understand only violence, it is the same today, so go ISRAEL!! U ARE JUSTIFIED.
i agree killing is NEVER good no mater what but it is required ,same thing for war. i do not know what happy would you live in but it is not this one... even thou war has it limit too but even in it's limit it will never seem moral to you but it dose not mean you need to stop the war..
You're missing my point. What you or I have to say doesn't matter any more than what anyone else has to say. But people should get accurate, realistic reporting on their govt's activities, including war. That way, if they choose the path of war they do so knowing and accepting the real consequences, and not because they've been fed some dishonest fairy tale about how they're kind and just. I don't think you can conduct a just war based on lies and deception - I think it is impossible.
the biggest mistake in the second lebanan war it was letting the press come and report it was a such a bad mistake that it was the reason we lost..when you let the media scum all over your attracts, booming you start too change tactics it because the pressure from government's ,people and more...war is not pretty it is not for the public yeas..besides when reporters go in to a battle field you have to protect them that lowers success..do not git this wrong this is war
If the people can't handle the reality of the war their govt is engaging in, then that war s/ stop. If your moral authority as a country lies in deceiving your population & other countries into thinking your behavior is better than it is - which is what you're talking about - I think you're on the road to totalitarianism.
I want the gory details of war printed everywhere - so people can make real decisions knowing the actual consequences of their nations' actions. Bet there would be less war.
For example: I think we ended the Viet Nam War because extensive, realistic coverage of it made people aware of the fact that it was an immoral war. I think we maintained the Iraqi occupation (the war On Iraq if not the war With Iraq) because there was no realistic coverage of our complete failure there.
I stick to my earlier assessment. You only hide things you're ashamed of and you should not do things you're ashamed of. Let people decide w/ real info - or do you not trust democracy?
we live in a very small land with one secondary holey place that is in there hands your justifying them because of what we toke the land... you know after what they did to us we should be justified too can't we get mad we had blood spilled too way if they do something it's poor people fighting for freedom if we do something it's the big evil israel country killing ..there not as poor as you think ..i know what it feels the hate the murder of brothers am i out there killing people?
I'm not going to argue with you about your individual perceived reality. I'm sure there were Germans who had legitimate arguments w/ jews prior to World War 2, and that absolutely does not justify the shoah.
Yes, there is now a long history to the conflict. Yes, there have been atrocities committed by both sides. My question remains - who has more power now, who is the biggest impediment to peace now.
Good of you not participate in the violence, hope you can maintain that.
But let me ask you a question - if Israel isn't doing anything wrong and their treatment of the people in Gaza is appropriate and legal, than why have they expelled all the journalists and refuse to let them come back? To me, there is no more serious and obvious evidence that they are doing wrong. If Israel weren't ashamed of its treatment of these people, it wouldn't be afraid to let people report on their condition.
"There is a lot of anger in the Arab world at Israel, and it is justified" are you crazy this year some Israeli-arab came in to some hi school (some my friends learn there) sooting with m16 and a box of emo and kill 8 kids then professionally confirmed there death by sooting them again you "justifie" his anger (the fucking man was part of the country) what anger justifies that .Till me please what kind of anger justifies wanting to nuke us.We live in a very small
ok fine i get it you think israel dose not do it's best to bring peace will it's not fun rockets flying at you every day its not fun booms going off every where there is a mad arab it's not fun having stabs, sooting ....
NO one wants that...
you think it's the land they want will gose katif- 4 years ago they did not stop for one day to kill us....
like i said the problem is not in there state of economy it is in israel the existent of that state.that state of economy is purely there creation we the UN has tried everything we can do in the circumstances that we have a democratic-jews state and we need defend it. the problem is not only in extremists like hamas it is spread trough allot of arabs the hate to Israel . waiting for a response...
There is a lot of anger in the Arab world at Israel, and it is justified. I'm sorry if you disagree but that is how I feel.
For a long time, I had confidence that what my country was doing was right. I assumed that, because all the messages from my society and my media told me were good and kind and just. I don't believe that anymore. I think some day you may take a wider view of events in Israel, now and in its past, and feel differently about things.
I know there is a story that is sold in Israel of them being the embattled state forever beseiged by malign, irrational forces bent on their destruction. It is the same story, though, that is fed to everyone, everywhere, so the people's taxes can be wasted on defense systems that should be mothballed.
If Israel wanted to make a better peace with it's neighbors, it could. I'm not saying it is all Israel's problem, but it has more than its share of the responsibility for it.
do you are stooped state has not done and dose and i'm sore will try again enough to try and solve the problem where giving them water electricity money (100000000 couple days ago) autonomy land GUNS.did any help even a little NO they do not care about negotiation there terrorist everything is turned back to kill us. Do you know what it is like to try defend your country then forced to help your enemy because you hurt it thin that help this kills you again.
ok fine sounds like a great site .first thing you need to know is that Israel has from it's foundation 60 years ago has tried to solve this problem there is nothing that has not bin done. the problem is that the extremists-hamas role the people .The people have chosen hamas as leaders and you know what they want to kill us they want to see no israely country no exceptions.they are part of a bigger problem iran hessbala soria alqida and more. This is a battle fםr are existent
hello zack i first i do not think this is black and white where good there bad there is never such a thing and you should think that way too.
i do not think you know will enough the facts you declare to know .I do not know if know history if you don't please learn this don't go by the media .... and VirtuousPornographer what the hell ???
Then educate me. I've done a lot of research on this topic, but the best, most concise source I've come up with is a site called "If Americans Knew" It tries to get at the objective truth of Palestinian vs Israeli deaths and then compares these totals to MSM coverage during the same period to evaluate media bias.
Right now, Israel is powerful and it is acting cruelly. Jews have been treated poorly in the past, but that does not entitle them to engage in collective punishment on others.
I'm sorry Zach if I was rude by telling the Jew to shut up. I'll refrain from such further outbursts unless of course I am free to decline to argue with Israelis and just tell them to shut up.
I try to use the word Zionist to differentiate lawless, expansionist jews from others - but I don't tell people what to do on my site.
It's like trying to figure out global warming based on your local weather - you can't do it, the trends are too long. I'm not going to judge mydast's comment because maybe he lives some place where injustice does chiefly go the other way. But he is living an unrepresentative existence, then. Israelis cause more harm to Palestinians on balance that's a fact.
let me till you about only a small part of destruction hamas has caused it is a town sderot it is mostly deserted, but the old and mostly poor people that have no where to go or the people that came there to support live with no work no food unprotected houses and rockets falling down on them all day long damaging life and sole. way are there no visits to there?? hamas roles the place giving the people stuff is giving hamas stuff. it is a cycle of death
Richard Falk has an anti-Israel agenda he came in to the investigation with the objective of making Israel give in.
Richard Falk got what he deserved.
He is no better than Kofi Annan or other racists in the U.N vile history
MagicKirin 10 months ago
How many missiles fired at the US from say Mexico would it take before all out war is declared? Shut up and don't talk about things that you know nothing about.
AbuAvital 1 year ago
the french resistance in world war 2 were considered terrorists by the german administration. i am confused has to how israel managed to get hamas classified as a terrorist organization,if in fact that is a legitimate claim or fact etc. After getting a fairly good hiding in lebanon less than 2 years ago does israel want to scare their unwelcome neighbours by terrorizing a ghetto that israel made themselves. i have no solutions but no sympathy for an israel that does not learn from history
71jamie36 3 years ago
nonsense with the human rights, some people need to be punished harshly, in bibletimes god himself ordered many people to be killed,because they are useless and animals,they understand only violence, it is the same today, so go ISRAEL!! U ARE JUSTIFIED.
RULI1974 3 years ago
RULI YOU ARE ANIMAL BECAUSE U DONT KNOW HUMAN RIGHTS; STUFF YOU WITH YOUR BIBLIC PROPAGANDA SHIT... GO FCK YOURSELF MOrON!"!!
malik911 3 years ago
i agree killing is NEVER good no mater what but it is required ,same thing for war. i do not know what happy would you live in but it is not this one... even thou war has it limit too but even in it's limit it will never seem moral to you but it dose not mean you need to stop the war..
mydast 3 years ago
You're missing my point. What you or I have to say doesn't matter any more than what anyone else has to say. But people should get accurate, realistic reporting on their govt's activities, including war. That way, if they choose the path of war they do so knowing and accepting the real consequences, and not because they've been fed some dishonest fairy tale about how they're kind and just. I don't think you can conduct a just war based on lies and deception - I think it is impossible.
FeelFreeToArgue 3 years ago
the biggest mistake in the second lebanan war it was letting the press come and report it was a such a bad mistake that it was the reason we lost..when you let the media scum all over your attracts, booming you start too change tactics it because the pressure from government's ,people and more...war is not pretty it is not for the public yeas..besides when reporters go in to a battle field you have to protect them that lowers success..do not git this wrong this is war
mydast 3 years ago
If the people can't handle the reality of the war their govt is engaging in, then that war s/ stop. If your moral authority as a country lies in deceiving your population & other countries into thinking your behavior is better than it is - which is what you're talking about - I think you're on the road to totalitarianism.
I want the gory details of war printed everywhere - so people can make real decisions knowing the actual consequences of their nations' actions. Bet there would be less war.
FeelFreeToArgue 3 years ago
For example: I think we ended the Viet Nam War because extensive, realistic coverage of it made people aware of the fact that it was an immoral war. I think we maintained the Iraqi occupation (the war On Iraq if not the war With Iraq) because there was no realistic coverage of our complete failure there.
I stick to my earlier assessment. You only hide things you're ashamed of and you should not do things you're ashamed of. Let people decide w/ real info - or do you not trust democracy?
FeelFreeToArgue 3 years ago
we live in a very small land with one secondary holey place that is in there hands your justifying them because of what we toke the land... you know after what they did to us we should be justified too can't we get mad we had blood spilled too way if they do something it's poor people fighting for freedom if we do something it's the big evil israel country killing ..there not as poor as you think ..i know what it feels the hate the murder of brothers am i out there killing people?
mydast 3 years ago
I'm not going to argue with you about your individual perceived reality. I'm sure there were Germans who had legitimate arguments w/ jews prior to World War 2, and that absolutely does not justify the shoah.
Yes, there is now a long history to the conflict. Yes, there have been atrocities committed by both sides. My question remains - who has more power now, who is the biggest impediment to peace now.
Good of you not participate in the violence, hope you can maintain that.
FeelFreeToArgue 3 years ago
But let me ask you a question - if Israel isn't doing anything wrong and their treatment of the people in Gaza is appropriate and legal, than why have they expelled all the journalists and refuse to let them come back? To me, there is no more serious and obvious evidence that they are doing wrong. If Israel weren't ashamed of its treatment of these people, it wouldn't be afraid to let people report on their condition.
FeelFreeToArgue 3 years ago
"There is a lot of anger in the Arab world at Israel, and it is justified" are you crazy this year some Israeli-arab came in to some hi school (some my friends learn there) sooting with m16 and a box of emo and kill 8 kids then professionally confirmed there death by sooting them again you "justifie" his anger (the fucking man was part of the country) what anger justifies that .Till me please what kind of anger justifies wanting to nuke us.We live in a very small
mydast 3 years ago
ok fine i get it you think israel dose not do it's best to bring peace will it's not fun rockets flying at you every day its not fun booms going off every where there is a mad arab it's not fun having stabs, sooting ....
NO one wants that...
you think it's the land they want will gose katif- 4 years ago they did not stop for one day to kill us....
mydast 3 years ago
like i said the problem is not in there state of economy it is in israel the existent of that state.that state of economy is purely there creation we the UN has tried everything we can do in the circumstances that we have a democratic-jews state and we need defend it. the problem is not only in extremists like hamas it is spread trough allot of arabs the hate to Israel . waiting for a response...
mydast 3 years ago
There is a lot of anger in the Arab world at Israel, and it is justified. I'm sorry if you disagree but that is how I feel.
For a long time, I had confidence that what my country was doing was right. I assumed that, because all the messages from my society and my media told me were good and kind and just. I don't believe that anymore. I think some day you may take a wider view of events in Israel, now and in its past, and feel differently about things.
FeelFreeToArgue 3 years ago
I know there is a story that is sold in Israel of them being the embattled state forever beseiged by malign, irrational forces bent on their destruction. It is the same story, though, that is fed to everyone, everywhere, so the people's taxes can be wasted on defense systems that should be mothballed.
If Israel wanted to make a better peace with it's neighbors, it could. I'm not saying it is all Israel's problem, but it has more than its share of the responsibility for it.
FeelFreeToArgue 3 years ago
do you are stooped state has not done and dose and i'm sore will try again enough to try and solve the problem where giving them water electricity money (100000000 couple days ago) autonomy land GUNS.did any help even a little NO they do not care about negotiation there terrorist everything is turned back to kill us. Do you know what it is like to try defend your country then forced to help your enemy because you hurt it thin that help this kills you again.
mydast 3 years ago
ok fine sounds like a great site .first thing you need to know is that Israel has from it's foundation 60 years ago has tried to solve this problem there is nothing that has not bin done. the problem is that the extremists-hamas role the people .The people have chosen hamas as leaders and you know what they want to kill us they want to see no israely country no exceptions.they are part of a bigger problem iran hessbala soria alqida and more. This is a battle fםr are existent
mydast 3 years ago
hello zack i first i do not think this is black and white where good there bad there is never such a thing and you should think that way too.
i do not think you know will enough the facts you declare to know .I do not know if know history if you don't please learn this don't go by the media .... and VirtuousPornographer what the hell ???
mydast 3 years ago
Then educate me. I've done a lot of research on this topic, but the best, most concise source I've come up with is a site called "If Americans Knew" It tries to get at the objective truth of Palestinian vs Israeli deaths and then compares these totals to MSM coverage during the same period to evaluate media bias.
Right now, Israel is powerful and it is acting cruelly. Jews have been treated poorly in the past, but that does not entitle them to engage in collective punishment on others.
FeelFreeToArgue 3 years ago
I'm sorry Zach if I was rude by telling the Jew to shut up. I'll refrain from such further outbursts unless of course I am free to decline to argue with Israelis and just tell them to shut up.
VirtuousPornographer 3 years ago
I try to use the word Zionist to differentiate lawless, expansionist jews from others - but I don't tell people what to do on my site.
It's like trying to figure out global warming based on your local weather - you can't do it, the trends are too long. I'm not going to judge mydast's comment because maybe he lives some place where injustice does chiefly go the other way. But he is living an unrepresentative existence, then. Israelis cause more harm to Palestinians on balance that's a fact.
FeelFreeToArgue 3 years ago
let me till you about only a small part of destruction hamas has caused it is a town sderot it is mostly deserted, but the old and mostly poor people that have no where to go or the people that came there to support live with no work no food unprotected houses and rockets falling down on them all day long damaging life and sole. way are there no visits to there?? hamas roles the place giving the people stuff is giving hamas stuff. it is a cycle of death
mydast 3 years ago
Shut up Jew!
VirtuousPornographer 3 years ago
People are so brainswashed by our media. When al jazeera english covers the situation trying to reason with people in comments is pointless.
Warnomore50 3 years ago