Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Darth Vader: A New Hope

[MrSpoonicorn]

I see we can make lightsabers....but we record with a tamato?

[ScanManP13]

Some of the best dialogue of the entire series.

[Anakin8529]

these guys fight like old people at a prune juice stand

[DarthMex1991]

0:17-0:29 I remember as a kid waiting for my dad to come from work I had my Darth Vader Lightsaber and told him the same speech

[foxycorredor]

why he died that way ? every jedi I see diying doesnt die like obi wan dissapearing

[SecularNumanist]

@foxycorredor

Remember the end of revenge of the Sith? Yoda teaches Obi Wan immortality.

So Yoda and Obi wan both die this way because they have learned immortality, but all the others who got killed just died normally.

[extremechampion00]

@SecularNumanist Actually Qui-Gon Jinn taught both Yoda and Obi-Wan Kenobi how to become Force Ghosts. Since he was the first one to discover how to do it though, all the other Jedis died in a more savage fashion.

[s0d100]

but luke was the first could talk to ghosts with the force and without so he could also see padme and shmi ghosts it showed that on the star wars wiki

[bugbite96]

why do ALL my favorite characters die :(

[ScrambleChannel]

At the end Darth was thinking where the Fuck did he go

[myraxg]

"If you strike me down, I shall become even more powerful than you can possibly imagine"

That line just gets me every time.

This is not only a great movie because of the story and action, but because of the Philosophy of it all.

[liongirlfc]

@Silverbullet89 he most lucky wanted Luke to choice for his self and not just come and say hello my name is Obi wan Kenob and I will train you for you can be a Jedi follow me.

[idioticinagoodway]

@Silverbullet89

Luke's uncle hated the jedi, and he kicked Obi Wan off his property. When Obi Wan started to train Luke, Luke's uncle was already dead.

[snakes3425]

@idioticinagoodway

Obi-wan also told Owen and Beru what had happened to Anakin and what he'd done, so Owen had the double burden of knowing that he was Darth Vader's brother (Shmi married Owen's father between Episdoes I and II) and keeping Luke safe from his father, so Owen lied to Luke about Obi-Wan and Anakin's exploits because Luke was like a son to him and he didn't want him sharing his brother's fate and to keep him safe from Anakin

[teflonswan]

still one of my favorite duels ever

[ogfunk187]

@Silverbullet89 ..im no stars wars geek..but.. he may have had doubts about training luke because what happened the last time he trained a Skywalker!.. almost end of the galaxy and all!!!

[ogfunk187]

@Silverbullet89 maybe the stress aged him afew years

[12342832]

WHO AGREES WIT ME... wen Darth Vader breathes it sounds like hes sayin OPEN OPEN OPEN THUMPS UP IF U AGREE!!

[Rapter57]

i like how vader says "you should not have come back". its like hes really acknologing what happened in ep III

[BANZITOMMY]

@Silverbullet89

Yes your right late 50's is probably more accurate. I think he looks right for that age other then the white hair, although the lose of hair color varies from person to person. I still do not think they look all to weak, unless you compare to the new ones. I think the old movies are cannon though(4,5,6) George should have had someone else write the preqeuls.

[BANZITOMMY]

@Silverbullet89

Yea I guess but remember the Jedi don't use the force to attack. I guess he could do a force jump but in the space they were in I see no need. Whether Obi Wan could beat Vader we'll never know. My take on it is he might have been able to but it was not his path and he knew it.

[BANZITOMMY]

Well I like the fight. It wasn't perfect, Obi Wan's spin was dumb and it was a tad slow sometimes. But despite that it was acted well. Alec Guinness didn't look weak to me, he seemed to be coming strong. Great acting and dialogue. Thinking about it this fight could have got way more intense had it went on longer. There is really no place where you'd need to do a force jump in this scene. Its just classic sword play.

[jones13013]

@Silverbullet89 well, a boxing champion which does not fight since 20 years will be also weak. Kenobi was alone on Tatooine, his last real swordfight was two decades ago.

[melosebrainuhoh]

So much simpler... and so much *bettter*... than the excessive, overchoreographed, repetitive, emotionless, BORING duels in the prequels.

[vikingdecendents]

this scene back in 1977 hooked me for life

[kkwillsaveus]

1:46 is possibly my favourite second of Star Wars.

It's like he's saying, 'yeh you're about to kill me, but Luke's on my side, and he's going to kill you eventually, I'll win, despite this defeat, so fuck you, you prick.'

Then lets his defence down, what a moment.

[chrome74]

this is it - the first light saber battle in history! every move is cool, nowdays they jump around like rubber balls...

[blacky3ard]

in the movie

they used a sword as a lightsaber

and used a computer to make it look like a lightsaber

[VenomShock]

@blacky3ard well not really swords persay. They were props usually manufactured out of Flash handles and other unique things, with poles coming out the end for reference.

[littlekeed]

Why did Lucas forget that one of these duels can be just as if not more engaging without 10 minutes of cgi and choreography? The Luke vs Vader fights later on in the series were never topped by the technology fest.

[1337huntard]

why does obi-wan disappear?

[VisionofOrion]

I think the concept was he became one with the force.

[canadianmafia67]

he becomes a force ghost

[happynobody]

he's a magician, it was all a magic trick. He's like the Houdini of a galaxy far, far away.

[isyrafessa]

why does darth vader looks so stiff when he fight

[kracker212]

2 reasons

1) in the first film only they used fragile spinning reflective rods as a part of the effect When they hit too hard, they break. So they're "pulling their punches" to keep from breaking the props.

2) If you look at Vader's costume, you'll notice that there's a section like a flap that covers his shoulders which makes it so you can't raise your arms over your head

Complex costumes are usually cooler on the outside looking in since they can be a hassle to move around in.

[catcrehsr]

ya thats y the had to change his fighting style

[akaza99]

Obi-Wan Kenobi

Darth Vader

[CanadaKools]

how is obi wan so old? he was like 25 when luke was born and now luke's 18 and obi wan's 70

[KidOfEighteen]

He was much older when Luke got born. If you look at part II and III Obi Wan is much older when teaching Anakin.

Or else it must be stress..!

[vfgjhj]

He looked more like he was around 40 in episode III, and here he should be somewhere around 60....... he did change quite a bit from episode III to IV though. I thought Lukes aunt looked way too old in episode IV.

[Peace7Maker]

he was 25 in episode 1... he must have about 32 when luke was born...

[TCTriangle]

LOL The first and oldest lightsaber duel ever!

[dazzlemebiznatch]

your powers are weak OLD MAN LOL!!!!!

[KidOfEighteen]

I lol'd irl seing that on my television :p

[StarWF2]

What a couple of bums. That was embarrassing.

Vader couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo.

[Gabbagabbahey2]

Wich is wierd considering he was all agile and flipping around the place in the prequel trilogy.... wtf!

[Peace7Maker]

at the same time he is completly robotic now... and hes about 55... (and obiwan is suppose to have about 65)

[swanofavon0]

i recon there moves are awesome... very quick ust in smaller sections when not talking

[GuitarHeroPl0x]

2 things..

1: I thought this was Ben Kenobi.. Isn't there a Ben Kenobi in Star Wars?

2: I'm with satmtca, why did he just give up like that? I don't get it..

[Deseridius]

Ben = Obi Wan

[iRoNiCoSaRCaST]

in the universe of star wars they say that if a jedi deliberatly let himself go into the force, he can return later and with even more power, thats why he did that. sorry my bad english im from uruguay

[satmtca]

can someone explain to me why he did that just gave up i know he was old but it doesn't make any sense

[pietamaistro]

to become a force ghost

[Dotseoem]

To make Luke stronger. He just became a part of the Force, but wanted to make it look like he died.

[voldemortlover66]

damn, the combat was so lame, a six year old could fight like that!!! the new combat in the new movies is way better

[florgamary]

In this particular fight, its not about the combat. Its the gravity of the situation. The meeting after all that went down. Yes, its a slow fight, but the intensity is great. If one cant appreciate this slower, yet classic fight, then you're not a real star wars fan.

[VisionofOrion]

Couldnt said it better myself

[Mcmuffinman414]

@florgamary i dont think its the slowness of the fight however the extremely poor choreography that pisses most people off

[smileyTn7]

@Mcmuffinman414 ye like that random turn obiwan does hahaha its great

[extremechampion00]

@florgamary Slow? More like hard! Every strike was filled with power and as you said intensity. I think the only thing it needs to shut the haters up is to have the Rebel Fanfare playing in the background, that would make it even more epic than it already is.

[georgebaggy]

@florgamary and that is the reason why this is the best lightsaber fight in the entire series

[gethsoftware]

@florgamary i like this battle bechose there very little usless movement.

[VisionofOrion]

Keep in mind most of the moves in this particular fight were done by Sir Alec Guiness playing an aged Obi Wan Kenobi. The 1977 Star Wars didnt have the support, in technology or budget then the ones made over the past several years. Still a classic fight never the less.

[satmtca]

they're both like 80 or so years old what would u expect

[BANZITOMMY]

@satmtca

Well I am pretty sure Darth is only in his 40's and Obi Wan 60-70s.

[Peace7Maker]

lies, combat were created inspired by traditional fencing...

[767scarecrow]

@voldemortlover66 u suck

[Darthbelal]

"The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the learner, Now I am the master"

[MeckOneandOnly]

NOOOOO!!!!!

[chfmn]

but the learner

[zufgh]

the circle is now complete.......

[kumandown]

yeah im sure for that

[classyfilms]

Obi Wan still has it after all these years. But he's past his prime for sure. I don't see him battling General Grievus with his 4 light sabers any more.

[kumandown]

darth vader is nevous at last

[palpatine55]

Obi wan hadn't lost strength (look at Dooku, Palpatine, and Yoda, who are older than him in this movie). Darth Vader had just become MUCH stronger than the last time they met, and much smarter. He would not be making a mistake like challenging Kenobi's high ground again. Kenobi realized Vader was now too powerful for him to defeat, and ALLOWED Vader to strike him down so he became one with the force. Obi Wan fights much the same in this as in Ep III. Classic Soresu.

[Sexxor69]

Darth Vader actually became weaker, after he was put in the suit his power was nearly half of what it was without the suit. He didn't realize Vader was too strong, he just wanted to provide a distraction to allow Luke, Leia, Han, and Chewie to escape

[palpatine55]

if you were really versed in the series you will know that Vader's injuries cut his POTENTIAL in half. Lucas says Vader in the suit was 80% as powerful as Palpatine. Pre suited Vader had not even NEARLY reached his potential, as demonstrated by his defeat (though from overconfidence) by kenobi. I am claiming suited Vader is stronger than unsuited vader was at the time just before his injuries. Had he not been injured, he would have been far more powerful, more than even palpatine and yoda.

[terrywest111]

@Sexxor69 Agree wholeheartedly. Obi-Wan knew he had to sacrifice himself in order to let the others escape. Vader handn't won the duel yet... in fact it looked to me like Obi-Wan was moving to pin Vader against the wall, much like Obi-Wan did in their first duel on Mustafaar, Obi-Wan was maneuvering Vader around.

[stmk0]

@palpatine55 smarter? you give Vader a lot of credit if he didn't understand Kenobi's parlor trick.

[theflyest310]

@palpatine55

I agree that obi wan had not lost strength. But i dont think that vader was Much more powerfull than he was after ep lll, IN truth they prolly both were weaker in lV then they were in lll. IN the story palpatine even said that vader isnt wat he used to be. and ITS OBVIOUS that he isnt. His djem so style was stiff and lacked passion and strength. his djem so here was disgraceful compared to what it was. IF ANYTHING THEY BOTH were using classic soresu with basic shii cho techniqes

[aaronspayd]

Another thing I love to watch is how Ben Kenobi is the aggressor in this fight, which highly contradicts his top notch, disciplined mastery of Soresu.

[aaronspayd]

Obi-Wan is as gangsta as it gets. A top notch Jedi who looks like that guy that always asks you for change? Sign me up!!! By the way, Obi-Wan is the master of talking shit. "Only a master of evil, Darth!" That's to make fun of Anakin for being weak enough to fall to the Sith.

[gloobopalos]

cool vid!

[bry4nXedge]

FAKE!

[cdm111anator]

Luke:NAAAAAOW

[KPKonliner]

u call this a duel ? they're better when they're young.......

[LordNoctis]

Just remember, fi tehy hadn't had this duel in this movie, those other duels would enver have happened.

Besides that, people slow down when they get old, wat did you expect?

[KPKonliner]

i know that man ! obi gets old , vader had his mechanical body...

[jzan33]

hahaha luke sounded funny when he yelled

[greengrendel]

does he really die there? because I recall a totally different scene... with force-fields...

[Sexxor69]

yep he dies and becomes a force ghost

[greengrendel]

I remembered a scene with a forcefields, and them stopping to meditate while separated by the forcefield. And the apprentice trapped behind the last one, unable to join he fight. Perhaps it's another guy. I was 9-10 at the time...

[Sexxor69]

that was from episode 1 and it was qui-gon and obi-wan vs. darth maul...obi-wan was the apprentice

[greengrendel]

aah, that makes sense, ty!

[thunderstrike45]

thats batlle with obi won qui gonn vs darth maul

[luv2havefun9]

that was in episode 1. The duel was between darth maul and qui- whats his name (obi-wan's mentor) lol. obi-wan was the apprentice then.

[ogfunk187]

@Sexxor69..ive never heard of this phrase "force ghost", was it you made up? or heard?

[bccboy325]

technically he doesnt die, he becomes one with the force..

[lector0003]

what does that mean?