If anyone believes what astrologers espouse, then it should be put to a scientific test. Take a significant number of people who have no knowledge of astrology, and no bias for or against it, and see if the astrological predictions coincide with the events in their lives in a statistically significant way. Of course, before this can be done, their has to be some common ground among the predictions of astrologers and some predictions that are testible. If not, astrology is a fraud on its face.
no offense, but itit's saddening that people buy this crap that you and others peddle. You're selling something that is completely made up, and when people listen, it can be harmful. There's no reason for any rational being to believe in astrology, and it's truly depressing to see simple minds caught up in this horrible loop of fantasy. Come to reality. realize what you are saying!
haha nice one, this is meant to be funny right? you should make it a bit more obvious though because i can imagine some poor unfortunate souls buying into this!
I'm confused - why is this video contain RE:CARL SAGAN, because that implies you have at least some sort of argument in defense of the stuff you peddle.
@ac3491 Carl Sagan never did the scientific method on Astrology. His knowledge of Astrology was always lacking. His personal bias, immature opinions were unscientific and punitive. This is the man who had a lot to say about Velikovsky, but had to eat his own words. The only way I can remember Sagan is the silly delivery of the spoken word, no scientific genius!
Carl Sagan was one of greatest and most profound speakers for science that ever lived. He spent his life learning, teaching, writing, and conducting research. Astrology has no capacity to explain observable phenomena in the universe and its claims do not hold up to the scientific method. It is the product of superstition and human arrogance.
Try and be more careful when you dismiss an intellectual giant such as Sagan in favor of pseudoscience.
@YourReligionisWrong That's your opinion, you obviously don't know what your talking about. Show me any research sagan did to disprove Astrology. Sagan is no intellectual giant!! Velikovsky made Sagan look a fool. try again with your ignorance!
Sagan did not need to disprove Astrology since it has been known to be a pseudoscience for centuries. He did talk about how it is distracting some from what the stars and planets really are. Velikovsky's ideas and notions are not accepted in the scientific community. Trying to mold the nature of the universe to fit a preconceived dogma is NOT science. His claims are simply not verifiable and many of his claims have been objectively debunked.
@YourReligionisWrong So sagan has never studied or research astrology but has plenty to say against, one ignorant fool!! sagans opinions are worth zero, 0. Velikovsky is a bigger man than sagan will ever be. Try telling scientists to do science before telling me what is science, you just don't have any idea. Your igorance of Velikovsky is unbelievable. His claims have been proved to be true, Venus and Jupiter. Does it ring a bell?
Chiron like Pluto forces one to have a higher level of consciousness; it is the face that is turned inwards towards the uncosncious; without a wound and sense of loss there is no detachment and separation of the subject from the object and no perception of a greater reality than mundane reality. The woundedness of human nature becomes known and accepted and valued. It is the razor edge path despair is only below and the intuition and higher consciousness above which is beyond reach ofthe will.
Chiron is the wound that does not heal. One has to be philosophical about it. One cannot change the past but one can see things differently and not overvalue them. Without the wound, sense of loss, detachment from externals and physical and the turning inwards into the unconscious, one can not see the invisible (Pluto and Neptune) and the symbolism.
I am an Aquarius, and you are right on. However, I would like to point out, that this "lit fire" has been burning for some time, it's now the fruit seems ripe for picking.
Now, is a time for a curbment of enthusiasm as well, which will provide for better than inticipated results.
Chiron is the bridge to the transpersonal so what will realy brings redemption(Neptune) will have to include both the spiritual transpersonal and the physical, the eternal and immortal, a going beyond the temporal and transitoryness of the material world.
Absolutely Briiliant video! I have aquarius rising, and I recentely helped form a 3 man group and our vision is to expand and have everyone in the group the master of every aspect of culture. Of course there is no plan in place, just the optimism. lol, I know that type of thinking is very Jupiterish.
What's this video got to do with Carl Sagan? You just put that in the title to get views, didn't you?
DarqeDestroyer 2 months ago
@DarqeDestroyer i get more views than Carl sagan. I didnt do it for that.
astrologers 3 weeks ago
loads of pig shit. absolute rubbish. i can imagine how retarded u r to talk against such a learned person as Carl Sagan.
kesav1985 8 months ago
I think you are full of crap. I don't trust anyone who listens to Orb.
gibbytravis 10 months ago
I can smell your filthy hippie stench through my monitor.
FemptMurderOrgy666 11 months ago
If anyone believes what astrologers espouse, then it should be put to a scientific test. Take a significant number of people who have no knowledge of astrology, and no bias for or against it, and see if the astrological predictions coincide with the events in their lives in a statistically significant way. Of course, before this can be done, their has to be some common ground among the predictions of astrologers and some predictions that are testible. If not, astrology is a fraud on its face.
jrmotmot 11 months ago
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YourReligionisWrong 1 year ago
you are a scoure on humanity, you dumb motherfucker. i hope carl sagans ghost cuts your dick off for being so dumb.
breakthechain888 1 year ago
no offense, but itit's saddening that people buy this crap that you and others peddle. You're selling something that is completely made up, and when people listen, it can be harmful. There's no reason for any rational being to believe in astrology, and it's truly depressing to see simple minds caught up in this horrible loop of fantasy. Come to reality. realize what you are saying!
TheYelof3 1 year ago
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Thank you for proving Sagan right. Get some professional help.
noonespecia2007 1 year ago
haha nice one, this is meant to be funny right? you should make it a bit more obvious though because i can imagine some poor unfortunate souls buying into this!
micsimus 1 year ago
Good work, Ptolemy.
frohickey 1 year ago
I'm confused - why is this video contain RE:CARL SAGAN, because that implies you have at least some sort of argument in defense of the stuff you peddle.
watch?v=ZB88HnlLgZ8
ac3491 1 year ago
@ac3491 Carl Sagan never did the scientific method on Astrology. His knowledge of Astrology was always lacking. His personal bias, immature opinions were unscientific and punitive. This is the man who had a lot to say about Velikovsky, but had to eat his own words. The only way I can remember Sagan is the silly delivery of the spoken word, no scientific genius!
the0fart0machine 1 year ago
@the0fart0machine
You're kidding, right?
EvelioEinWindir 1 year ago
@the0fart0machine
Carl Sagan was one of greatest and most profound speakers for science that ever lived. He spent his life learning, teaching, writing, and conducting research. Astrology has no capacity to explain observable phenomena in the universe and its claims do not hold up to the scientific method. It is the product of superstition and human arrogance.
Try and be more careful when you dismiss an intellectual giant such as Sagan in favor of pseudoscience.
YourReligionisWrong 1 year ago 5
@YourReligionisWrong That's your opinion, you obviously don't know what your talking about. Show me any research sagan did to disprove Astrology. Sagan is no intellectual giant!! Velikovsky made Sagan look a fool. try again with your ignorance!
the0fart0machine 1 year ago
@the0fart0machine
Sagan did not need to disprove Astrology since it has been known to be a pseudoscience for centuries. He did talk about how it is distracting some from what the stars and planets really are. Velikovsky's ideas and notions are not accepted in the scientific community. Trying to mold the nature of the universe to fit a preconceived dogma is NOT science. His claims are simply not verifiable and many of his claims have been objectively debunked.
YourReligionisWrong 1 year ago
@YourReligionisWrong So sagan has never studied or research astrology but has plenty to say against, one ignorant fool!! sagans opinions are worth zero, 0. Velikovsky is a bigger man than sagan will ever be. Try telling scientists to do science before telling me what is science, you just don't have any idea. Your igorance of Velikovsky is unbelievable. His claims have been proved to be true, Venus and Jupiter. Does it ring a bell?
the0fart0machine 1 year ago
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@the0fart0machine
Clearly you are trolling. If not, you are incredulous to evidence. Either way it is time to end this exchange. Thanks!
YourReligionisWrong 1 year ago
a bit more interesting than commercial astrology, i can see how astrologers are so good at sucking ignorant people out of their money.
and sagan was a genius, this is not a response at all to his video. its more like spam.
ibanezvirtuoso 1 year ago
a bit more interesting than commercial astrology, i can see how astrologers are so good at sucking ignorant people out of their money.
and sagan was a genius, this is not a response at all to his video. its more like spam.
ibanezvirtuoso 1 year ago
WTF has this got to do Sagan? Sagan described astrology as "fuzzy thinking and pious fraud" and as far as I'm concerened he was being too kind.
Tapecutter59 2 years ago
there is a really good article about Chiron on Astrodienst homepage called Wounding and the will to live. "acceptance of mortal limits" etc.
rockpianoguy 2 years ago
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there is a really good article about Chiron on Astrodienst homepage called Chiron wounding and the will to live and "the acceptance of mortal limits"
geoffreyah 2 years ago
There is a really great article about Chiron on Astrodienst called Chiron wounding and the will to live and "the acceptance of mortal limits" etc.
geoffreyah 2 years ago
Chiron like Pluto forces one to have a higher level of consciousness; it is the face that is turned inwards towards the uncosncious; without a wound and sense of loss there is no detachment and separation of the subject from the object and no perception of a greater reality than mundane reality. The woundedness of human nature becomes known and accepted and valued. It is the razor edge path despair is only below and the intuition and higher consciousness above which is beyond reach ofthe will.
geoffreyah 2 years ago
Chiron is the wound that does not heal. One has to be philosophical about it. One cannot change the past but one can see things differently and not overvalue them. Without the wound, sense of loss, detachment from externals and physical and the turning inwards into the unconscious, one can not see the invisible (Pluto and Neptune) and the symbolism.
geoffreyah 2 years ago
I am an Aquarius, and you are right on. However, I would like to point out, that this "lit fire" has been burning for some time, it's now the fruit seems ripe for picking.
Now, is a time for a curbment of enthusiasm as well, which will provide for better than inticipated results.
mrbluesfan22 2 years ago 2
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mrbluesfan22 2 years ago
@mrbluesfan22 with every beginning, there is an ending. And with every ending there is a beginning.
With astrology we come to understand there are cycles, cycles within cycles.
astrologers 2 years ago
Master the Transits
MasterEy1 2 years ago
Interesting ideas!
MyzzTy 2 years ago
@MyzzTy thanks. Astrology is worth a lifetime of study.
astrologers 2 years ago
@astrologers Couldn't agree more!
the0fart0machine 1 year ago
@astrologers unless you have only one life.
Backyardplay 10 months ago
Chiron is the bridge to the transpersonal so what will realy brings redemption(Neptune) will have to include both the spiritual transpersonal and the physical, the eternal and immortal, a going beyond the temporal and transitoryness of the material world.
geoffreyah 2 years ago
@geoffreyah I'm studying more about Chiron, researching what happens over time in people's charts.
astrologers 2 years ago
Absolutely Briiliant video! I have aquarius rising, and I recentely helped form a 3 man group and our vision is to expand and have everyone in the group the master of every aspect of culture. Of course there is no plan in place, just the optimism. lol, I know that type of thinking is very Jupiterish.
MrAmoore6 2 years ago
@MrAmoore6 Sounds great. "master of every aspect of culture" You should come to our festival of arts. We're planning a big event.
astrologers 2 years ago
Thanks. Visit our website more often. Invitation to everybody!
1AGEL 2 years ago