@mpzstudio Music critics always try to make it appear as though speed has no place in music. The piece is meant to move fast. Pardon me if my mind does not think "slow and moderate" when playing a piece to mimic the antics of bees.
@hypacam12 I'm still thinking is too fast, if you speak too fast is dificult to understand what you're saying I mean ok we know who is valentina, this is not a critic to her, just trying to remind people that fastness is not virtuosity scuse me is my daily war with my students ;)
@mpzstudio ah, but you see, not all music tries to communicate a message, some music is just to mimic a situation or paint a picture. So, yes chopin's Op 25 no 2 should be played fast because its not a piece that speaks about bees, its a piece that expresses their nature (blindingly fast and erratic!). I don't see how this piece will remind anyone of a swarm of bees if its played at any speed lower than this.
Though this Étude may be depicting the soul of Chopin's betrothed Mario Wodzinska, the fact that it's sometimes called "The Bees" is not a surprise. I never knew about its nickname until now and before now I was always reminded of bees when listening to this. This Étude reminded me of Rimsky Korsakov's "The Flight Of The Bumblebee" and still does. Valentina, you play this Étude very well! :)
Valentina Lisitsa!!! Can you please answer my question please please please? I want to play opus 10 no. 5 by chopin and i started it but idk if i can do it. can you check my video and tell me if you think im able? Pleaseeee!
I'm in love with this piano sound. It sounds in a certain way old and from another time. Great! Not to mention your musical and technical niveau. Thanks for sharing this with us!!!
I've listened to this video now a few times. As a professionel organbuilder and audio engineer I think that the piano is deliberately (is this the right word?) not 100% in tune (in each key itself), which makes the sound a little bit more "wide" and soft. It is hard to tell because of the minor quality on youtube. I love this sound, and when I have to buy a grand piano in the future, I will have a closer look at Bösendorfer.
Sheesh, it's pieces like this where your idedic memory probably comes in really handy o_O This looks like it's not anywhere close to just chromaticism -- it's like Chopin went out of his way to make these crazy scales as difficult to remember as possible.
Yes, of course it *can* be played this fast. Stop "thinking" about it and just "listen" to it.....Piano playing isn't like chess; there are no "good" and "bad" moves.... Music is emotion..... Feel it.... If it "speaks" to you then it is *perfect* at this speed. Like many other works it's also *perfect* at other speeds too depending on what you want to convey.
@roturner I do not think the same..we all know Chopin's (or anyone else!) music and people who play this piece should know what the composer wanted..and I think of the sound intensity and the tempo! In this case it IS a good tempo - just check the title! "The bees" - like the Humble bee :) But I do hate when somebody (just because he/she is a piano virtuoso) play' faster than the presrcibed to show his/her talent..
@roturner I agree with you. The sheet music may say one thing, "Presto" as a tempo marking in this case. Yet, what would then be the point of all these pianists and artists and their interpretations and creations of music if they all strived for the same, original thought that Chopin had?
I wonder why nearly no pianist does respect the text in the right hand in this etude. there are two triolets for six notes and everybody plays three times two notes.
I wonder why... the written version is possible to play and sounds good....
I play it at around the same speed now. Inspired by your version. :) I wish I had a teacher though that could get me improve my technique. Here's my version of the same etude (I'm not a music major, so don't be harsh on me, I do this during my free time): wwwDOTboxDOTnet/shared/t2kamep7kq (Replace DOT with an actual .)
I thought the triplets should be emphasized like ta-ra-ra- Ta-ra-ra Ta-ra-ra Ta-ra-ra and not like Ta-ra Ta-ra Ta-ra Ta-ra Ta-ra Ta-ra...I think i can hear the difference in the end of the first section... :S confused...
I just would like to say that you are one of the most talented and blessed musicians on the face of this earth. When I'm listening to you, I feel as if my ear is being filled with a beautiful scenery, sunbeams, I don't know. Thank you.
I just learnt the piece.. am working on getting it up to speed. Any tip/advice that you can give me is highly appreciated but I don't expect a person as busy as you to be able to do this. Doesn't hurt to ask, does it? ;)
@liszt85 When I started learning this, I practiced playing small snippets fast, even just half a bar at times, pretty soon you get the feel of it, and it comes. Good luck!
@cnlewis03 Thanks mate. I can now play it almost as fast as 'valentina does in this video but there are some inaccuracies that I'm still working on but I'm close :) Here's something I played a month ago (I'm much better now): h ttp://w ww.box.net/shared/zgmpyn7874
Amazing, I'm learning to play this one, and yes to those of you who think this is too fast - it's not to fast, it's just right. If you want fast, listen to Pollini play this song ;)
i love how people continue doubting lisitsa's tempo, when she CLEARLY informed people three times that the tempo marking is presto, as is Op. 10 No. 4.
My copy here indicates a metronome pace of: Minim (половинная нота) = 112.. Which is indeed this fast. I think if you're looking at the sheet music it looks slow to the eye - because it's all crotchets and quavers. Anyway.... I would think Valentina Lisitsa would be the expert and final word on the matter! ;-)
Personally I do not know this etude any slower. It is (as V notes) marked presto and it is a study for precision and speed in the right hand playing lots of notes close together. What VL dioes wonderfully is control it even at that tempo. It is fast, but doesn't sound rushed to my ears. That is the trick.
I just wish she could tell me the secret to getting the LH triplet crotchets timed correctly with the insane flurry of right hand quaver triplets!!! It is insanity! Valentina is brilliant...oh well back to the metronome for me...
If your being serious then the answer (for me) lies in practicing the piece with two metranome settings, one for the right hand and one for the left, practiced seperately and then together using the different MM speeds.
Thankyou for the suggestion! (Though may I suggest in the future using the reply button cause I didn't actually know you were helping me!) By the way I've figured it out now and actually find this quite an easy song to play :D
this etude should be played as fast ? ( just asking I used to play it but really really slower thx for answering .) All your videos are amazing you play so well can't find words for describe how you make us feel. thx for all that great music you made keep going it's amazing.
I wonder why Chopin marked only a few of his pieces with Presto. Pretty much all of the fast ones Chopin gave a ridiculously fast metronome marking.
Btw, don't take any of my comments too too badly, You play wonderfully, some of the best Chopin playing I have ever heard. the critique is more of a mental excercise, a test of my musical understanding than a real critique.
@ValentinaLisitsa Your performances of these Etudes are amazing to me. Especially your interpretation of Op.25 No.9, your hand goes so fast it really does look like a butterfly. You are my hero and absolute idol. Keep playing like you do.
@AmShagar in sheet music, most of the times it says what tempo it should be played, so with your metronome, you can find it out exaactly! I thought this one was 120 for the half note, so 6 notes of the right hand.
It's fun watching her technique. Her hand position looks like she would barely be able to sink into the keys but she gets such rich sound. Always loose, always flowing. As entertaining to watch as she is to listen to.
ohh, okeyy...i was just asking because i'm working on chopin lately and the speed of this etude attracted me....thanks for the clarification...ur the best!
@CharbelChopin Too fast for Chopin? This is perfect speed, you have to bare in mind that it is marked presto. She plays so amazingly, it's like Chopin's taken control of her.
I know in theory the etudes are exercises, but there's not much doubt Chopin raised them above mere finger workouts. His etudes are both wonderfully virtuosic and pulsing with emotion. Just listen to Op.10, No.4 or No.12. They're intense displays of romanticism!
Nevertehless, it is wrong to maintain this etude should be played slowly lest Chopin's "melody and sadness" get lost. It's like saying that "Für Elise" must be played harshly because otherwise you don't convey Beethoven's outburtst of passion ;-)
@ValentinaLisitsa You're right if a song says "Presto" (which, for any others who may not know what that means, means basically as fast as possible) you should PLAY it Presto! Although in PianoPhase345's defense, it did sound like you were playing it Prestissimo! Wow!
you know what my favorite etude of op 25 its no 7. the melodie is just beautifull, and the dipness withing it is almost unatural. Valentina lisitsa and maurizio pollini have the best versions
@thisisbrianful
That is correct!
Bloodydigger 3 days ago
"roturner" *is* "right", "art" is subjec"tive"
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Bloodydigger 3 weeks ago
@Bloodydigger you're supporting roturner, yet your are mocking him at the same time?
thisisbrianful 4 days ago
@JamesTR4 my teacher ( piano ) said it was just like that
TheIlikecookies123 3 weeks ago
@Ormusn i can and i'm 10
TheIlikecookies123 3 weeks ago
@harutuniananna are you 10?were you going to play this after a 2 piece invention by Bach?
were you able to play Nocturne B-flat Minor ( which is not very hard for me )huh?
TheIlikecookies123 3 weeks ago
@mcrettable this song is by Chopin and i don't think Liszt was even alive at the time.This was on of his latest songs at the time.
And I just can't belive that i have to play this.I'm only 10.And i'm scared.i have to play this at a recital in June.JUNE!!!.
TheIlikecookies123 3 weeks ago
Bees!
johnnyachernar 1 month ago in playlist More videos from ValentinaLisitsa
Amazing =O
xXxDreamLovexXx 2 months ago
Did you know Liszt played this piece with right hand octaves at the correct tempo xD
mcrettable 3 months ago 4
@mcrettable impossible
stoni90 2 months ago
@stoni90 not probable.. look it up ^^
mcrettable 2 months ago
someone make her play prokofiev .....
such as
sonatas 1-8
concerto 2,3
sunamiassault 3 months ago
cuanto pianista envidioso ronda por aqui.. :-)
luisgelves 3 months ago
surprised that she aint asian.
Nosensev57 3 months ago
Yes, so what, it is quite fast, but you get a much better feel for the triplets, which is the focal point of this piece.
chrisbowman777 4 months ago
My god, I'm training on this etude.. and seeing Valentina playing this,, just makes me want to quit piano.. damn.
SoMaRiOn7 4 months ago
music its a language not a circus
mpzstudio 4 months ago
@mpzstudio Music critics always try to make it appear as though speed has no place in music. The piece is meant to move fast. Pardon me if my mind does not think "slow and moderate" when playing a piece to mimic the antics of bees.
hypacam12 3 months ago
@hypacam12 I'm still thinking is too fast, if you speak too fast is dificult to understand what you're saying I mean ok we know who is valentina, this is not a critic to her, just trying to remind people that fastness is not virtuosity scuse me is my daily war with my students ;)
mpzstudio 3 months ago
@mpzstudio ah, but you see, not all music tries to communicate a message, some music is just to mimic a situation or paint a picture. So, yes chopin's Op 25 no 2 should be played fast because its not a piece that speaks about bees, its a piece that expresses their nature (blindingly fast and erratic!). I don't see how this piece will remind anyone of a swarm of bees if its played at any speed lower than this.
hypacam12 3 months ago
How difficult is this to play actualy? I have seen the sheet and on the paper it doesn't look very difficult, but how is it in practice?
And is there any "easy way" to begin learning a piece like this one - or rather: what do I begin with if I want to learn this?
harutuniananna 6 months ago
@harutuniananna The easiest way to learn this, is practicing every day a lot of technique, lots and lots :)
josetex 5 months ago
@josetex Actually I started to play Bach to be able to learn this :D
harutuniananna 5 months ago
After having heard this Etude as a child when I saw the music for the first time I was confused lol
cedricrlongreen 6 months ago
its funny becuase this is chopin's 'easier' etudes
bboymango 6 months ago
@lMusicAndMadnessl lol!
gammypage 6 months ago
Though this Étude may be depicting the soul of Chopin's betrothed Mario Wodzinska, the fact that it's sometimes called "The Bees" is not a surprise. I never knew about its nickname until now and before now I was always reminded of bees when listening to this. This Étude reminded me of Rimsky Korsakov's "The Flight Of The Bumblebee" and still does. Valentina, you play this Étude very well! :)
Lawrencelovespiano 6 months ago
BRAVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Rottamtatore 6 months ago
She is so talented ... and smiling - her videos are a gift for everyone who likes Chopin's music.
According to Chopin himself, this étude depicts the soul of his betrothed, Maria Wodzinska, and not a swarm of bees.
Aaerielns 6 months ago 4
faster please : )
tanghonuen88 7 months ago
Valentina Lisitsa!!! Can you please answer my question please please please? I want to play opus 10 no. 5 by chopin and i started it but idk if i can do it. can you check my video and tell me if you think im able? Pleaseeee!
mikeflanny22 8 months ago
to fast
Chris10Kruller 8 months ago
I'm in love with this piano sound. It sounds in a certain way old and from another time. Great! Not to mention your musical and technical niveau. Thanks for sharing this with us!!!
KORNMUSIKde 8 months ago
I've listened to this video now a few times. As a professionel organbuilder and audio engineer I think that the piano is deliberately (is this the right word?) not 100% in tune (in each key itself), which makes the sound a little bit more "wide" and soft. It is hard to tell because of the minor quality on youtube. I love this sound, and when I have to buy a grand piano in the future, I will have a closer look at Bösendorfer.
KORNMUSIKde 8 months ago
It's not that she plays it too fast. That noone else can do this fast enough.
Ormusn2o 8 months ago
Lo escuche lento por primera vez cuando una niña lo estudiaba desde entonces me gusta lento y no rapido...alguien lo haria lento por mi?
Angelitaluzluz 8 months ago in playlist Chopin
man!!! she makes it look so easy :S
isabelprado1978 9 months ago
wer so Klavierspielen kann, kann nie wirklich unglücklich werden
ChrystF 9 months ago in playlist Valentina Lisitsa Chopin Etüden op.25
WOW, amazing
i can lay this fast but not with this much intonation
BRAVO
SophiaSu52 9 months ago
gorgeous playing by a gorgeous lady
pleasureacolyte 9 months ago
Sheesh, it's pieces like this where your idedic memory probably comes in really handy o_O This looks like it's not anywhere close to just chromaticism -- it's like Chopin went out of his way to make these crazy scales as difficult to remember as possible.
ZachEatonMusic 9 months ago
she played this a lot faster than me.
bxinger 10 months ago
Valentina~
I am in awe, you are such an amazing pianist. Where can I hear you play??
Great job, as always!
~Violet~
nogveelove 1 year ago
I came to think of "Fantasie Impromptu", when I heard/saw you playing this etude a week ago;
it has been one of my favourites since childhood 60 years ago.
Have you done that one too on YouTube?
faxfix1 1 year ago
Yes, of course it *can* be played this fast. Stop "thinking" about it and just "listen" to it.....Piano playing isn't like chess; there are no "good" and "bad" moves.... Music is emotion..... Feel it.... If it "speaks" to you then it is *perfect* at this speed. Like many other works it's also *perfect* at other speeds too depending on what you want to convey.
roturner 1 year ago 18
@roturner good comment sir/lady. good comment
PaulThePuppetier 3 months ago
@roturner I do not think the same..we all know Chopin's (or anyone else!) music and people who play this piece should know what the composer wanted..and I think of the sound intensity and the tempo! In this case it IS a good tempo - just check the title! "The bees" - like the Humble bee :) But I do hate when somebody (just because he/she is a piano virtuoso) play' faster than the presrcibed to show his/her talent..
mommyslittlemonsta 2 months ago
@mommyslittlemonsta But Chopin did not call this piece "the bees", did he?
semicroma 1 week ago
@roturner I agree with you. The sheet music may say one thing, "Presto" as a tempo marking in this case. Yet, what would then be the point of all these pianists and artists and their interpretations and creations of music if they all strived for the same, original thought that Chopin had?
kirkusinthecircus 1 month ago
people for saying its too fast...i think valentina knows what shes doing and as she says its marked presto meaning quickly :)
supergaybot 1 year ago 31
@supergaybot It's right, I play it now and it's 112 presto, so Valentina played it perfectly! :)
LovelyCuddly 6 months ago
absolutely beautiful. your fingers are so blithe and smooth on the piano
ElizabethMichelleHo 1 year ago
every second is like an orgas!m
dussan007 1 year ago
Hermoso! :)
Very nice, Valentina!
s0fii66 1 year ago
I wonder why nearly no pianist does respect the text in the right hand in this etude. there are two triolets for six notes and everybody plays three times two notes.
I wonder why... the written version is possible to play and sounds good....
uhartchristian 1 year ago
not so good....no forte no piano..no nothing......sorry...
pincuska 1 year ago
I play it at around the same speed now. Inspired by your version. :) I wish I had a teacher though that could get me improve my technique. Here's my version of the same etude (I'm not a music major, so don't be harsh on me, I do this during my free time): wwwDOTboxDOTnet/shared/t2kamep7kq (Replace DOT with an actual .)
liszt85 1 year ago
Bravo.
amonluxor1 1 year ago
I thought the triplets should be emphasized like ta-ra-ra- Ta-ra-ra Ta-ra-ra Ta-ra-ra and not like Ta-ra Ta-ra Ta-ra Ta-ra Ta-ra Ta-ra...I think i can hear the difference in the end of the first section... :S confused...
JamesTR4 1 year ago
@JamesTR4
this is the same reason i looked up this video.i guess when you play this fast its all the same.
Vampiresss8 1 year ago
@Vampiresss8 true true
JamesTR4 1 year ago
You are amazing!
MrFortepianist 1 year ago
Perfect :)
oceanprincess318 1 year ago
this is 1 of the easiest?
BassicStorm 1 year ago
sounds just like a swarm of bees :)
niru54321 1 year ago
I just would like to say that you are one of the most talented and blessed musicians on the face of this earth. When I'm listening to you, I feel as if my ear is being filled with a beautiful scenery, sunbeams, I don't know. Thank you.
Koreangrl13 1 year ago
I just learnt the piece.. am working on getting it up to speed. Any tip/advice that you can give me is highly appreciated but I don't expect a person as busy as you to be able to do this. Doesn't hurt to ask, does it? ;)
liszt85 1 year ago
I tried to put in a link to my version of this but youtube doesn't accept links maybe?
liszt85 1 year ago
@liszt85 When I started learning this, I practiced playing small snippets fast, even just half a bar at times, pretty soon you get the feel of it, and it comes. Good luck!
cnlewis03 1 year ago
@cnlewis03 Thanks mate. I can now play it almost as fast as 'valentina does in this video but there are some inaccuracies that I'm still working on but I'm close :) Here's something I played a month ago (I'm much better now): h ttp://w ww.box.net/shared/zgmpyn7874
liszt85 1 year ago
You're amazing!! I love to listen to your stuff!! :)
dussekfan 1 year ago
With my coffee, closing my eyes, and dreaming
Ty Valentina :-)
k0ld7 1 year ago
I've played that before it was kinda hard
lmc6506 1 year ago
sounds Russian
bennyyclo 1 year ago
What's her name ? @.@
oOoMrZzoOo1990 1 year ago
wow!!!
EXCELENT really super kiki^^
otgonbulgan 1 year ago
Amazing, I'm learning to play this one, and yes to those of you who think this is too fast - it's not to fast, it's just right. If you want fast, listen to Pollini play this song ;)
oceanprincess318 1 year ago
do you use the pedal?
guitartappingpro 1 year ago
When I first heard this, I thought of Fantasie Impromptu. This is a great etude. I see why the people of Vienna accused Chopin of playing too soft.
shadowknight132 1 year ago
How long does it take to play a song like this
littlemisschecka 1 year ago
Just by listening to this I can tell: this is exactly how fast it should be played! Great!
trotspice 1 year ago
i love how people continue doubting lisitsa's tempo, when she CLEARLY informed people three times that the tempo marking is presto, as is Op. 10 No. 4.
squash1532 1 year ago 6
wowwwwwww
jesus45137 1 year ago
Valentina. This is a question to you. Are you coming to Vancouver to perform a concert this year of 2011? Because that will be amazing please.
KoPianoBeautiful 1 year ago
Wow! Very Clear!!! BRAVOOOOOO>....<
aimeeluffs 1 year ago
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JorisCeoen 1 year ago
My copy here indicates a metronome pace of: Minim (половинная нота) = 112.. Which is indeed this fast. I think if you're looking at the sheet music it looks slow to the eye - because it's all crotchets and quavers. Anyway.... I would think Valentina Lisitsa would be the expert and final word on the matter! ;-)
brightonjonny81 1 year ago
Personally I do not know this etude any slower. It is (as V notes) marked presto and it is a study for precision and speed in the right hand playing lots of notes close together. What VL dioes wonderfully is control it even at that tempo. It is fast, but doesn't sound rushed to my ears. That is the trick.
Malaka57 1 year ago
Sympathetic!
Darrning 1 year ago
yes. this is very fast. i have score and this is like this.
sumimimi0 1 year ago
Chopin is Very GOooD!
I mean,, how did he come up with this piece and how did he "TAUGHT" about the sound of this piece...
he is so good!
and VALENtina played it So WELL! :P
salamence47 2 years ago
she has great expression, but sometimes it seems like she runs the notes together. I really enjoyed it.
violinartist1 2 years ago 4
— Это и я так могу! — А что ж сыграть-то ? — ...Мурку!
Здорово-здорово)
Romathino 2 years ago 6
That was breath taking, I really like this piece.
someone0d 2 years ago 4
you learned all the etudes
baboon500 2 years ago
I just wish she could tell me the secret to getting the LH triplet crotchets timed correctly with the insane flurry of right hand quaver triplets!!! It is insanity! Valentina is brilliant...oh well back to the metronome for me...
Chopianist3 2 years ago
@Chopianist3
If your being serious then the answer (for me) lies in practicing the piece with two metranome settings, one for the right hand and one for the left, practiced seperately and then together using the different MM speeds.
dbedford007 2 years ago
Thankyou for the suggestion! (Though may I suggest in the future using the reply button cause I didn't actually know you were helping me!) By the way I've figured it out now and actually find this quite an easy song to play :D
Chopianist3 2 years ago
she's plays beautifully, but she looks like a zombie!
jakmere 2 years ago
realy like this interpretation. Just would have liked it a bit more legato since it says 'molto legato'..
Snuggelz220290 2 years ago 3
a comment to 635Passworte:
not the fingers are perfect but how she uses it and the hand and the arm......
do you have the special thing?
this is a perfect interpretation and absolutely incredible performance of all Chopin etudes. Who can do it better? you?
uhartchristian 2 years ago
I just started this...Omg I have a lot of work...
knightLynderic 2 years ago 4
this etude should be played as fast ? ( just asking I used to play it but really really slower thx for answering .) All your videos are amazing you play so well can't find words for describe how you make us feel. thx for all that great music you made keep going it's amazing.
AmShagar 2 years ago 5
Only 2 out of 24 marked Presto: this one and Op 10 #4
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ValentinaLisitsa 2 years ago 48
I wonder why Chopin marked only a few of his pieces with Presto. Pretty much all of the fast ones Chopin gave a ridiculously fast metronome marking.
Btw, don't take any of my comments too too badly, You play wonderfully, some of the best Chopin playing I have ever heard. the critique is more of a mental excercise, a test of my musical understanding than a real critique.
werq34ac 2 years ago
@ValentinaLisitsa excellent... but why are your tags Richter, Wilhelm, Pollini, Backhaus and Ashkenazy if I may ask?
Lity10 1 year ago
@ValentinaLisitsa Your performances of these Etudes are amazing to me. Especially your interpretation of Op.25 No.9, your hand goes so fast it really does look like a butterfly. You are my hero and absolute idol. Keep playing like you do.
daytonmlivingston 1 year ago 2
@AmShagar in sheet music, most of the times it says what tempo it should be played, so with your metronome, you can find it out exaactly! I thought this one was 120 for the half note, so 6 notes of the right hand.
tummetjuh 1 year ago
@AmShagar ...This piece is sometimes caleld "The Bees" of corse it's supposed to be fast
adamdcFaN 6 months ago
Pure perfection.
musicfanBRA 2 years ago 2
Класс!
вспомнилось:
"-ну.... это и я так могу....
- а что сыграть то ?
- мурку !"
SergM78 2 years ago
It's fun watching her technique. Her hand position looks like she would barely be able to sink into the keys but she gets such rich sound. Always loose, always flowing. As entertaining to watch as she is to listen to.
robertslistening 2 years ago
reminds me of one of his valses
danedaworld 2 years ago
i want to play it...im afraid now^^
635Passworte 2 years ago
she has perfect fingers but she doesnt have the speciall thing...
635Passworte 2 years ago
composed between 1831 and 1836, superb etudes vy guabt Franz Liszt
beethomozart 2 years ago
...i aint playin the song for a long time cus i dont really like it that much
danedaworld 2 years ago
good for you
Jtpeopleschamp 2 years ago 2
Valentina Lisitsa i'm really very happy for hear ur playing ..you are very beautiful!! Thnak you for this videos .I hope u are ok for ever;)) Obeid.
OBEID1988 2 years ago
Wonderful technique.
haioforler 2 years ago
Valentina... very very very well done :)
I think you can show Horowitz how to play this piece, or even S. Richter :)
NocturnalTune 2 years ago 3
I love your way to play the piano. you are best and beautiful
AtNyn37 2 years ago
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gouloum2222 2 years ago
ohh, okeyy...i was just asking because i'm working on chopin lately and the speed of this etude attracted me....thanks for the clarification...ur the best!
CharbelChopin 2 years ago
that's excellent.but, valentina, should it be played that fast? i think it's too fast for chopin.
CharbelChopin 2 years ago
Presto ??? Only this one and Op 10 #4 marked Presto...
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ValentinaLisitsa 2 years ago 29
@ValentinaLisitsa
I agree entirely. This is alla breve, and presto. You'd be hard pressed to play it too fast.
proszel 1 year ago
@ValentinaLisitsa You play it excellently. The presto tempo gives it just enough lightness it needs! Regards!
FilipMarkovski 1 year ago
I think, its the right pace. Its one of those etudes, i think, which can stand even a higher pace, like the Etude No.2 in a minor.
haioforler 2 years ago
@CharbelChopin well you should watch etude op 10 no 4 and especially no 5, my friend :P
stevemaster247 1 year ago
@CharbelChopin Too fast for Chopin? This is perfect speed, you have to bare in mind that it is marked presto. She plays so amazingly, it's like Chopin's taken control of her.
losinggrip1993 1 year ago 2
@CharbelChopin take notice of Alfred Cortot, played it even faster!
mallefries 1 year ago
@CharbelChopin ive seen people play it even faster, i quite like this tempo.
SultanKaraMusic 1 year ago
i wish i could play that well
kriegelmike101 3 years ago
I don't think it's meant to have "melody and sadness." It's an exercise. Valentina, you're a goddess of the piano!
PapiJohn51 3 years ago
I know in theory the etudes are exercises, but there's not much doubt Chopin raised them above mere finger workouts. His etudes are both wonderfully virtuosic and pulsing with emotion. Just listen to Op.10, No.4 or No.12. They're intense displays of romanticism!
simnos1 2 years ago 7
Nevertehless, it is wrong to maintain this etude should be played slowly lest Chopin's "melody and sadness" get lost. It's like saying that "Für Elise" must be played harshly because otherwise you don't convey Beethoven's outburtst of passion ;-)
revilo178 2 years ago
why does Chopin put "presto" in the scores? actually, we don't know presto how fast is it according to Chopin. (it could be terribly fast maybe...)
chipheo24 2 years ago
One tradition is to play the entire measure in one 'beat' if the tempo is Presto.
gwizvideo 2 years ago
She is brilliant, no doubt about it, but this is played too fast. You're right
PianoPhase345 3 years ago
Chopin: Presto - the only Presto other then Op 10 #4 :)
ValentinaLisitsa 3 years ago 10
Yea =]
suellio 3 years ago
@ValentinaLisitsa You're right if a song says "Presto" (which, for any others who may not know what that means, means basically as fast as possible) you should PLAY it Presto! Although in PianoPhase345's defense, it did sound like you were playing it Prestissimo! Wow!
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AnAmericanComposer 1 year ago
I'm inclined to agree (12th is best), although the 11th is very good as well. Would depend on what mood, or drug I was on.
EuphoricDan 3 years ago
fav etude of opus 25.
zielarzopl 3 years ago
No way, op.25 no.12 is the best ! =)
COCOONFABULA 3 years ago
Maybe you're right ^^
zielarzopl 3 years ago
I second that.
xiangyik 3 years ago
you know what my favorite etude of op 25 its no 7. the melodie is just beautifull, and the dipness withing it is almost unatural. Valentina lisitsa and maurizio pollini have the best versions
darkwolfevanish 3 years ago