Homeopathy Cancer Woman Gemma Hoefkens on BBC Radio Five Live

[64patrizia]

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[64patrizia]

Moechte nur wissen, was DDD ueberhaupt will, der weiss doch noch nicht mal wo der Baddel den Most holt. Ja zapperlot noch eins, da hau mir doch einer uff den Saeckel ZZZZ

[Damn6Deal6Done6]

@64patrizia ZZZZ

[cappsie1]

This is purely anecdotal evidence. There is no clinical evidence to suggest that homeopathy works beyond the placebo effect. We cannot say what actually happened in Gemma's case, we don't have access to the notes and scans, only that it is highly unlikely, without empirical evidence, that homeopathy affected the cancer. There are many plausible explanations but often the homeopath will chalk up a 'win' when confusing causation with correlation!

[64patrizia]

My father healed of pancreatic cancer through Homeopathy! It left the doctors speechless in the hospital and then very interested in how this was possible. Its an insult to say it does not work if human beings are actually healing, especially children, who are under no influence of any placebo effects. By the way, clinical tests have been carried out to proof that it does work. NO DOUBT

[Damn6Deal6Done6]

@64patrizia Here's a better insult, you are a deluded moron. GET AN EDUCATION.

[tooyjfwn]

@64patrizia You are talking out of your backside, which is of course why you provide not a single bit of evidence for your bullshit anecdotes.

[250Yogi]

@tooyjfwn well, being her son, i can verify her anecdote. My grandfather was most definitely cured of pancreatic cancer, and most definitely by no means other than homeopathy

[Damn6Deal6Done6]

@250Yogi Go peddle your crap elsewhere.

[Damn6Deal6Done6]

@patty108123 Patty, your comments are moronic, you fail to understand basic medicine, scientific processes, and how proof works. You are a shill, your brand of nonsense is dangerous, misleading, and creates ignorance in others, you are an evil to all things good and proper. If you want to help people's health, try get into University, get a degree, get a masters, write a PhD, and try legitimately contribute to the human race's understanding of the world instead of peddling crap.

[sheradized]

@Damn6Deal6Done6

You are clearly a bigot regarding your knowledge of homeopathy.This waffle you peddle is nothing more than ascerbic diatribe.

Go back into the shadows.

The half wit who was challenging homeopathy on the video is clearly confused and needs to see a lying psychiatrist , wait i know one ..

[Damn6Deal6Done6]

@sheradized What the hell are you on about? Education is hard but worthwhile, I recommend it highly.

[Widgetas]

@patty108123 You are incorrect! What happened is I suddenly had a nostalgia for Nerds: the small sugary sweets popular in the early 90's. But nothing else happened.

[dnch]

@patty108123 i prefer oranges over limes

[dnch]

what a dumb bitch

[JaySmith91]

watch?v=dufFEr1GqRY She's so stupid and oblivious to her stupidity. I recommend watching that.

[AllieLaughsAgain]

You can't judge homoeopathy the way you judge allopathic medicine, because it doesn't work the same way. I am a firm believer in allopathic medicine's efficacy when used with caution, yet have also been helped many times by homoeopathy, as have members of my family. You don't have to choose homoeopathy over allopathic medicine. Why not get what you can from both? Nor do you have to know why homoeopathy works for you if it does - just that it does. Do you know why the doctor's drugs work?

[Damn6Deal6Done6]

@AllieLaughsAgain Please go away and read up on Avogadro's Constant, you seem to have missed that day at school.

[KEJenner]

@Damn6Deal6Done6 Please take time out from reading and get some real experience. You clearly don't have any in Homeopathy. The problem with all you Sense about Science and Nightingale supporters is you don't have any real experience to pass judgement, you only argue on theory. This woman in the video speaks from experience, as do all people who support homeopathy, because they have experience of it working, and you speak from? your....? So I know which group I think is more qualified to comment.

[Damn6Deal6Done6]

@KEJenner You are a horrible moron.

[KEJenner]

@Damn6Deal6Done6 Please go away and get some experience, because you clearly don't have any in homeopathy. The trouble with all you Sense about Science and Nightingale supporters is you can only argue in theory because you lack first hand experience. Like the woman in the video, pretty much all the people who support homeopathy speak from real experience, whereas you speak from? Your...? I know which group I think is more qualified to comment.

[Damn6Deal6Done6]

@KEJenner Let me guess, you are a Homeopath? go sell your bullshit to the ignorant and moronic.

[frosted1030]

@AllieLaughsAgain Damn right! You can not judge homeopathic medicine like you judge any science, because it is absolutely not science. Homeopathy is much like a dog painting on canvas, compared to a grad student doing math. Yes both do make marks and yes the dog is interesting to look at, but which do you trust to balance your personal budget? Science got us to the moon. Think about it.

[Smithpolly]

@frosted1030 Given the way the financial system has been run of late, I'm giving the dog my serious consideration.

[frosted1030]

@Smithpolly Oh, that is easily fixed, but no one will fix it because power corrupts.

[SkepticalAaron]

@AllieLaughsAgain

Can't judge it the same way because it doesn't work the same way? Dumbest thing ever. Positive results are positive results,no matter how something "works". The standard for anything is "does it work". If its supposed to cure or help with something,then it should cure or help with something,period. Its like saying "I'm the strongest man in the world,but i get strong by other means than lifting weight,so you can't use how much weight I can lift as a meter for how strong I am.".

[skepticat1]

Great job by Mike Marshall. Poor Gemma sounds so gullible. She waves her ignorance like a flag and he wipes the floor with her argument while remaining pleasant and polite. What a contrast to people like Dana Ullman, Brian Kaplan and other high profile homeoquacks who are coining it.

[la2111]

I'm all for research into ways of developing novel ways of treatments, but homeopathy is just plain silly and the fact that the NHS provides funding for this crap is a disgrace! Any so-called remedy from homeopathy has been attributed to the human auto-immune system, the placebo effect and environmental factors i.e. a morale boosting friendly chat from the 'doctor'.

As Richard Dawkins said 'if homeopathy worked it would cease to be an alternative medicine and be simply called medicine!.

[UlsterScotKeith]

Who cares. Whats important is she got better. People with cancer will get MEDICAL treatment properly. So who cares.

[harvellt]

@UlsterScotKeith Some people choose homeopathy over chemotherapy out of misinformation and ignorance, then die. That is why people care.

[Amygdala100]

26th July 2010, the British government emphatically backs the people's choice to seek homeopathy within the NHS.

[Damn6Deal6Done6]

@Amygdala100 I hope you die a slow and painful death.

[Amygdala100]

@Damn6Deal6Done6 Homeopathy was introduced to me by my NHS medical doctor, because of my semi-coma state- induced by penicillin antibiotic. I wouldn't wish death on anyone; although, I'm relieved that medical doctors have the liberty to prescribe safer alternatives where there are allergies.

[Damn6Deal6Done6]

@Amygdala100 Yawn.

[LAnonHubbard]

Homeopathy is just a crock of crap. Not distinguishable from placebos. Has a large proportion of the world lost their fucking minds?

[Rurne]

I think the "brain cancer" is still eating away at her. She apparently can't distinguish reality from fiction.

[kobykid28]

ooooft!!!

[docdcb]

The level of complete pwnage that Marsh deals out, whilst being polite & respectful, is to be applauded.

Thanks for posting this.

[intermanaut]

Jesus. This Gemma Hoefkens woman is so frikkin' dumb that it stings!

[Widgetas]

You missed underlining "Payment by cash or cheque only" :)

I took Arsenic Album for my overdose. Guess what happened?