Sonic The Hedgehog 2 Beta

[rOmArioOh]

cool, but this guy plays badly

[Ffiti2]

Is the level select code in Sonic 2 the same as Sonic 1?

[KrazyScruffy9001]

Genocide City (later Cyber City) actually kinda did make it in: they used the layout for Metropolis Act 3, and the graphics were used for The Machine in Sonic Spinball

[OmagaMinion]

apearently if you look at the manual you can see the beta title screen

I checked

[MrBurgundy76]

man, and i thought this game was perfect already....it wouldve been my favorite platformer ever if it had wood zone and hidden palace

[MrBurgundy76]

@MrBurgundy76 and dust hill zone!

[TsukiNoTV]

@MrBurgundy76 Dust hill is mystic cave

[AwesomelyEpic50]

WAY wrong CNZ music, the pink version only goes with beta ver. Of CNZ music

[godrugal1]

anyway of getting the cart?? please help anyone

[TheSmashbros45]

why i like the prototype:

1. Sonic has smooth animation when he's running

2. hidden palace zone

3. Sonic bounces back off a wall if he runs into it with a high velocity, i really like that

[AwEsOmE4938]

Dust hill and mystic cave are 2 seperate levels

[LegoMember10004]

Don't think Casino Night was finished...

[lilmattere]

I thought dust hill zone was a desert level and not mystic cave?

[03mrx]

2 things i liked in the beta version:

1. the smooth animation of sonic running

2. hidden palace zone

[Aleanizationable]

Is the prototype available for download and can it be played on any Sega Mega drive or Genesis emulator?

[lilmattere]

@Aleanizationable You can download at emuparadiseDOTorg in the sega genesis section

[TheMarioluigifans]

WHY DID THEY DELETE THESE AWESOME BETA ZONES?!?

[lilmattere]

@TheMarioluigifans BECAUSE SEGA IS STUPID? LOL

[knoxianpanda]

its a shame they scrapped hidden palace, that reminds me of Radiant Emerald on Sonic R :D

[izlude2]

wow, 12 levels! impressive for a little cartridge. could they have fit them all if they had enough time to finish making the game? someone NEEDS to do a rom hack and finish it up for the fans. i don't really like the ones they have out now because there's... no collision in the levels....

[64mgv]

@izlude2 u speak teh truth

[zZRaikouZz]

@izlude2 There is one! It's called "Sonic 2 Long Edition", and you can find it by Googling "sonic 2 long version sonicretro"

Make sure you get it from Sonicretro. The other ones on the internet are outdated. I just found the upgraded one here today. Genocide City and Hidden Palace Zone aren't glitched like in the first release of this ROM.

[BamzookiMan130]

*SIGH*

This video is all wrong. You didn't use the earliest beta (The Nick Arcade Beta), and you didn't show genocide city or dust hill. Also, sound effects ARE PRESENT in this beta, as it is with all the other beta's, and you used the finished version of Metropolis for Wood Zone, when Wood Zone uses a Beta Metropolis Zone song, with more useage of the sine wave channels on the sound processor.

-SGEHQ

[4methyst]

@BamzookiMan130 Because the earliest beta is nicknamed alpha, and there is another video showing that ROM. In this video some tracks are overlayed with other songs because the sound quality is so shit.

[ScoutNinja633]

Iast I saw this video was in about 3 years ago... good old times

[tecmo1]

LMAO!!! I thought that mouse pointer was mines! ;D

[0906smw]

I know a way you can get Hidden Palace in the complete full version. Enter the Level Select code, then go to music 10 in sound test. Boom! you are done. It's hidden palace's music!

[sonicspeed371]

i played it and it SUCKED!!!

[DavDamian21]

man these were good zones, oh well somethings need to be changed,

[phyre456]

where can i download the beta at?

[Joemamma69000]

actually they attempted to transfer Green Hill Zone into this game but failed so they instead maid a NEW one (not "A.K.A" crap your video says) called Emerald Hill Zone

[cottagechskitty]

This is very very well done. Good job showing what was completed and what wasn't. I'm amused by the missing spring in Dust Hill. It is sad with HPZ that it wasn't completed. They actually had done about half of the level.

[mrkoolnerd]

@cottagechskitty yup nothing was changed from the final in hpz from my understanding

[saaga666]

aquatic ruin is one of the worst zones from all sonics. They should keep the hidden palace instead, everybody hates this water levels.

[DemonicRemption]

Yeah playing this definitely would've prepared me for the platforming in Sonic 06, but I don't know how to plug up my Sega system properly...

[Monsterworldfan64]

It's the Simon Wai Beta.

Think they shoulda kept the 12 frame walking motion and the extended skidding animation. Would've made even more reasons why S2 is my favorite Sonic Game. Also shouldn't have dropped Sabaku zone, Hidden Palace, Dark Woods, Genocide City or any other of the cut zones for that matter and kept the time travel concept.

[mspeter97]

wait tails could be a femal fox???

[TheMojopo]

@mspeter97 shut your mouth

[mspeter97]

f*ck you

[haxor758]

@mspeter97 lol well said

[TheMojopo]

@mspeter97 yo mamma so cheap she brings coupons to the penny arcade

HOHSHIT YOU GOT OWND

[HinataChan30]

I believe this is what got me into emulation in the first place. I remember using this with Genecyst, IIRC.

[supermario863]

i heard that before releasing sonic 2

sega wanted to make tails a female fox

but dropped it and made him a male fox

[mspeter97]

it's sonic 2 siman wai beta

[UltimatePisman]

Looks like the Siman Wai Beta.

[PanaceaGreen]

Hey, for your screen recording problem, I'd try CamStudio.

It works better than Hypercam2 did for me.:[

[4methyst]

@PanaceaGreen hybrid here, this video is nearly 4 years old. If you can tell me how to replace this video with another one i'll grant your request.

[Saberwind45871]

god this brings back memories

[AnthonyTheHedgehog1]

what was the music on oil ocean from?

[LizLovesLPS]

sonic & tails on sonic 2 beta

[sonicrulz101]

1 thing that pissed me off is that you share your live span with talis,he died you died

[xFL1PPYx]

Damn sonic has some good music.

[Spirals95]

Wasn't chemical plant zone called poison plant zone somewhere?

[KillaOfLight]

No. But there was a copy of it know as genocide city zone, but was deleted because it did not work, not because of the name and for some reason, contained chemical plant zone's music, and contained its block sprites.

[fliphopto5]

Really?? I thought it was scrapped because of the name (it was too dark for kids) and because they did not have enough time. I have read they used the concept art for it on Sonic Spinball's the Machine.

[Gardyfinchy]

You can see why the Hidden Palace Zone was left out though, they put in Mystic Cave Zone and two cave zones wouldnt have seemed right.

Also it does seem very simular to Lava Reef Zone in Sonic and Knuckles....

Why dont SEGA make Sonic 4 for the Wiiware?

[bolcab3]

I wish they would have kept Hidden Palace......

[themindsi]

i dont get it how many sonic beta's were there

[zzzzzzzzzzzzz9483942]

sonic 2: there the nick arcade beta, siman wai, betas 4 through 8

sonic games in general: check sonic retro

[thunderbro7]

Oddly if you get 100 rings deathegg music plays and if you start to drown emerald hill music begins to play. I wish they didn't scrap hidden palace and wood zone.

[MysticMowat]

I'll explain the music things.

As you may or may not know, Sonic 2 was built off Sonic 1's engine. They basically pasted the new music over the old tracks. So this means that where S1's drowning music used to be, is Emerald Hill Zone's music and where the 1up sound was in S1, Death Egg Zone's music is. Obviously SEGA fixed all of this before the final release. Hope that wasn't too boring!

Also, I agree about Hidden Palace and Wood Zone!

[NKSPKI]

So Sonic 3 was built with this engine too?

[MysticMowat]

No, I think they custom made Sonic 3's engine. Sonic 2's couldn't easily handle all the new stuff in S3. Shields, Level transitions, not to mention character-specific abilities. So it was quicker just to make a new engine instead of modifying their old one.

[bolcab6]

I want a copy. lol

[chicomalo360]

el beta empieza en el 2do nivel del 2 normal?????

Si no me respondes sos pt

[XargothHellington]

the betamusic of HPZ fits more, than nr 10 imo

[EagleSammich]

I wonder why woodzone was scraped, because it was awesome

[maxpeg]

HAHA 2:44 he falls with the music

[TheMVRules]

1. reply to gweepypig: Sonic 2 is now abandonware

2. reply to csandy352: It is not made by Simon Wai, it was FOUNDED by Simon Wai.

3. The final boss in this game (Drill Eggman) is annoying because Tails can lose rings for you, but easy!

[hikarinoryu]

1:21 Unused enemy?

[sammycut1]

I've played this prototype. I also found a "hack" that actually finished these levels (with a little bit of imagination, of course) and it was awesome.

[4methyst]

Hachelle-bee's crazy interpretation lol.

[csandy352]

Sonic 2 beta is the game by simon wai. It has all the levels. Ther's Hiddesn Palace Zone, Chemical Plant Zone, Wood Zone, hill Top Zone. Mystic cave Zone, Casino Night Zone, And Oil Ocean Zone. Thats Every Level of the game. Thank You, for joining

[MOUPIMOUPI]

Still lacks Death Egg, Wing Fortress, and Sky Chase.

bitch

[MOUPIMOUPI]

Just go to Sonic Retro

[nesjoshua]

this beta version looks as hard as sonic 1..

[Andyc18]

The music on that wood level is funky :D

[4methyst]

Its fucking awesome.

[EasterEggMan]

Its the Metropolis Zone theme, but it's the version used in the final, as opposed to the one used in the beta. It wasn't used because Unregistered Hypercam 2 doesn't pick up sound, so it was just overlapped.

[4methyst]

When i filmed it i just overlapped moosic.

[n00bGurl]

Wow, there is alot of levels that hadn't made it to the final version...I wanna play them!

T_T

[TimeBotProductions]

i wonder why they chose not to use the hidden palace zone? looks awesome and fairly complete unlike that wood level lol

[kilonardodicaprio]

According to Wikipedia, they ran out of time for the game's development, and had to remove all the unfinished levels.

[platinumdynamite]

Just a note that the Wood Zone music sounds slightly different than Metropolis Zone. It has very minor changes.

[4methyst]

Yeah.

[korn52596]

look how many coins he passed at 4:02 to 4:03

[korn52596]

sorry, I mean rings.

[supersonic2115]

where do u download the beta version

[VGnerd]

Wood Zone was pre alpha only. Dust Hill wasn't Mystic Cave. Dust Hill would later become Sandopolis Zone in Sonic 3. Hidden Palace even has its own music. Look at number 10 in sound test.

[gangrel247]

uhhh? what did you do?

[Haloguy125]

hmmm..

[puskaywacho]

WTH wat legal reasona

[txfnero]

you know.. the fact that it would be ILLEGAL to post the link due to the game being copyrighted and such.

[SH13508]

wow man, you're pretty terrible

[VGnerd]

He really is. Everbody knows not to do spindash at the beginning of Hill Top Zone. I don't think this kid has ever played Sonic The Hedgehog 2.

[ahhomgnoob12]

i was just kidding jeez, nice though

[ahhomgnoob12]

fuck you

[4methyst]

eh?

[cargoboom123]

where u download plz

[Teqsinterrier]

Google "sega genesis emulator"; install the emu, then look for a site with Genesis/Mega Drive ROMs. They're illegal for most intents and purposes, but some sites may still be available; the Sonic 2 Beta is a cracked ROM that was leaked some time ago, so it should be available to anyone who looks hard enough.

[Leonthekigdommaster]

tis da very FIRST game i ever played!

[RebaAnime]

How did you get the text of sega text in word?

[Teqsinterrier]

Google "fonts"--there are various websites that allow you to download custom font packages that people have designed. New fonts are easy to install but installation varies by operating system--so google that too.

[petedogg93]

best game ever !!!!

[itsherbie33]

i agree. i played this game nonstop wen i was 4 years old.

[HyperSonicXtreme]

I got the very early, the 1st one played by the kids in Nick Arcade. The one when Sonic hit's a wall then flies back. It still has the robot snail just like the 2nd prototype.

[Icedburgh]

The Hill Top Zone must not have been in an early prototype; the ball on the seesaw had eyes and resembled an enemy. In the Simon Wai proto, the

ball was a plain, green ball. The lost zones are

good, though. Nice job!

[hybridmonk3ymagic]

i really need to redo this. Who thinks so? if you do reply to this. this was like my first vid made on a really crappy computer.

[Pivot7474]

yes

[MrSambaboy]

I think it's good allready, but it would be good if you redo it.

[maximuswinnie9]

Can you tell me how you were able to access this game? I have looked everywhere, and am not able to find it.

[Leonthekigdommaster]

well .. is that the actual music or was some of it added?

[ipreferluigi]

@hybridmonk3ymagic

The music overlay you did for Hidden Palace is NOT the right track. The track for Hidden palace is 10 in the final's sound test.

[ryanproductions687]

@hybridmonk3ymagic Yes you should and use camtasia 7 like I do for my walkthroughs

[finalefate]

@hybridmonk3ymagic doooo et and theres more you couldve reached with the hidden palace and missed out on genocide city

[Jixson]

Well, that explains why there are no Neo Green Hill Zone videos.

I've seen several videos on the Wood Zone, and each video contained a different background music :P Which ones the legit one? XD

Nice video thou! Good worK :D

[todosbien]

You suck!

[jaxy15]

where can i find the rom? i only got the delta rom

[Omochao0]

how did u play sonic 2 beta

was it a cheat

did you special order it

[Mikel7595or4]

Wood Zone Looks Like Fun! IF THEY FINISHED IT, it could have been possibly the BEST Sonic Level EVER!

[StrikerZero6]

in sonic 2 beta, metropolis zone is unfinished to begin with, because at the end of act 3, it goes to the edge of the screen where the boss is supposed to be and it throws you into a bottomless pit, and there's much more about it, like death egg wasn't even created at the time, hidden palace zone 1 and 2 are the EXACT same (still in sonic 2 complete) and so on and so forth

[graydarkblinkyfreak]

better get sonic 2 long version

[mchaosg]

The Sprites were better there then now

[hoaxer666]

Gr8 video really well put together full marks from me m8 =P

[666nightwish666]

You should type: Sonic & knuckles alpha

[GameFreakDude]

Wood Zone could've been better if it was completed. I saw a future for it. Hidden Palace Zone would've been a hit too. But they didn't finish it. Lazy bums.

Casino Night zone looks better the way it is now. That colour scheme looks awful.

The rolling balls in Oil Ocean zone looked cool. But, alas, they didn't finish it.

[DisturbedAngel]

oh my f***ing god I have this hacked version except chemical plant glitches on me and i can't complete it

[hybridmonk3ymagic]

10k views woo

plus the goon who posted below it was all the levels on the rom

[SkySephiroth]

Hill top zone isn't beta...

[WWEDX2007]

WHY DID YOU SKIP GENOCIDE CITY???

[hybridmonk3ymagic]

i didnt skip it...theres no such thing apart from the name on the level select. if u want to see what this game may have turned out like type in sonic 2 long version into google...you'll need gens or a genesis/mega drive emulator to play it. the cheats are the same as the orignal game

[Ozwaldpob]

Pretty cool. It might've been bette with those levels

[ANNABECKDK]

why isnt there any sound except for the music?

[GeraldRobotnik]

They didn't program the sound in this BETA version yet, I guess.

[hybridmonk3ymagic]

for all the sound concerns the sound in the game was terrible and very out of time so i put what the tune was over the film. i might redo this now i have a better screen recorder

[drag00n24]

I can't Beleave you can't make that jump in Hidden palace zone you know that hard jump.

[leonhart829]

Casino Night zone LOL. Useless unmade maps >=[

[fullmetalmc]

Nice should have used debug mode though.

[treckothehedgehog]

pretty good thanks for the vid

[Tails155]

always liked this HPZ more than the 3 version

[tyger51ne]

wow. this game looks unfinished or something. hidden palace zone looked like fun, but i can see y they took wood zone out of it...

[Neofcon]

God, hypercam sucks, get snag it.

[RiChY121212]

get Snagit i think its called (for recording)

[hybridmonk3ymagic]

thanks

[Aspartamebraintumor]

well that answers my 14 year question: why is there a picture of oil ocean zone with a button on the back of the game box? That picture was taken from the beta version!

[DarkGlowingRuby]

Wood Zone looked pretty hard. The music didn't suit it, but still. A.W.E.S.O.M.E Vid!

[X3S49]

Excellent Please check out my Sonic 1 on GBA Video

[pkmndata]

neat

[DarthKain0]

that casino night zone death was uncalled for lol

[hybridmonk3ymagic]

true true where i fall off the edge i cant work out how to get past that bit. if u no plz tell me

[Madmatica]

I love Hidden Palace Zone! I wonder why they didn't keep it the game... it looked like they weren't too far from finishing it.

[hybridmonk3ymagic]

I have replaced the music in this clip because the game music was so jumpy and dodgy. the playin was pretty rubbish but this vid is just to giv u a taste of what its like. If u like sonic watch my sonic 2 alpha vid. and if u no a better recording thingy plz tell me!!! because hypercam is crap.