This is a good video, it shaped the country. The Boers with it's European background is to proud to let go and English has so much convidence of defeating other countries. There is no need to discuss the situation, it is part of what shaped the country. Different internal wars going on in South-Africa now will sort it out by matter of time. We all have tough lives but it is what lies in you not what you own. We are more special than you know. I have traveled the world!
The documentary stopped before they got to the "good" part. 50% of all Boers under 16 were murdered in the concentration camp. Hitler would have been proud. May Kitchener burn in hell.
Some peoples attitudes! They watch a video dont like the truth,dont debate it, but make personal insults against the person of the victims, murdered Boer women, children&elderly, men, servants, property&live stock. Somehow they were able to see into the future & justified the genocide as it was caused by apartheid that happened 50 years into the future! You may not mention what they done at any time before yesterday cause it is their reserve.
Then they tell you to keep current! LOL. This is all while (current at the time or shortly before/after apartheid) they had been in Palestine, korea,Aden,Falklands,Kenya,Vietnam,suez,Malaya,Cyprus,Boreno,Ireland,Radfan,Dafor,Oman to mention a few of the SCORES more. Had open race riots in UK. Even now have no go areas for whites in some UK cities! Have the BNP. Then they embellish, lie, twist and weakly excuse their guilt & hypocrisy.
Raped Africa and Asia leaving a terrible mess which is a total failure & conflict ridden. None of their former colonies (without apartheid) is a success. Most of them know nothing about Africa & its unique complexities. BBC panorama showed (to presenters dismay) Black South Africans stating they were better off under White Nats! He tried in vain to change mans mind not wanting the mans opinion! I have an English friend who went camping & was worried about the way sheep were staring at him!
Look Thorsty I'm not going to continue this meaningless dialogue with you. The point is simple. if you lived in Britain, Europe or North America in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s, you would have seen that the whole world, be it white, black, yellow or brown people were AGAINST you Afrikaaners for how ou treated the blacks during Aparhtied.
That's what the sactions against South Africa movement was all about. the Canadians described you guys as the last people to have constitutional racism.
K, mate but look the fact is apartheid wasn't in all right. But the fact is apartheid was started for protection it just became out of hand. Anyway i think we should have set up our own state way back before we started it and gave SA to the rest. But that were britian comes into the picture(they wouldn't have given us it back then)
We had a state that was unoccupied ground in spite of which in the spirit of good relations negotiated with & paid for with a signed treaty from the Zulus under Dingaan. The English sabotagued that. The Orange Free state & Traansvaal Republic were & legally still are independant internationally recognised states. But the murdering thieving brits ruined that. There is not 1 country in the world where there are different races live together in harmony. If there is please tell me.
Yes i know and totally agree, makes me so pissed of too, when i think of it. The worst thing is that the boer men fought well but the the lives of the women and children was what made the boers sign the treaty and agree( dink nie die weste kan ooit verstaan nie, hulle het geen idee van hoe afrika werk nie).
Yes, I know if u listen to propaganda long enough u will beleive it. U were not there.Most but not all things about apartheid were not right but a neccisity at the time cause of what u caused. Late 60's in Usa south the clan was very strong & operating openly. Racial tension is simmering there all the time as it is in UK. Buy still has nothing to do with Boer war atrocities which u commited.
No buddy, there can NEVER be an excuse for treating people that way. YOU wouldn't like to have been treated like blacks were in SA so why if its not good for you is it good for them? Hypocrite!
Not too many Irish are into white racism. Look at some of Ireland's favourite sons, U2, Bob Geldoff, the Kennedys many of North America's trade unionists come from Ireland.
They are all about liberalism and social justice and the like.
Funny since the BBC is so left-wing. You think the BBC would hate the Boers, these ultra-Calvinist, Christian conservatives who are the architecs of Apartheid. But then the BBC is so used to attacking Britain and British culture that they can't spot a juicer target when they see one... safe for George Bush. Commie cowards!
How 'bout I give you a taste of your own shit asshole??
I suspect there are quite a few of you Boers living in my country which you see as a "white alternative" to your own. Funny you all once here don't take the same way you did in SA , because you know you'd get your asses whipped!
Hey MATE.... I don't hate Afrikaaners ... I look at you people and see the French Canadians who run Canada. They like you were also left w/o support from their mother Country (France) and lost in combat to the British Empire. Like you they too had two choices, 1. become subservient to the Crown and the Empire or make alliances with the natives (Indians to your Zulus) and survive on. The French kind of did both and survived. You all alienated both groups and today have no homeland.
K, mate, glad to know you dont hate us. but guess your kind of right, nobody has there own homeland in sa now. but we did try make allaince with the zulu, we even signed agreement to buy land and also many agreement with the british. But lets let he past be the past hey. the english and the boers settled their war along time ago. Guess the only change for us now is to settle the differnces and finally try to work together.
Well look, if things keep regressing as they are in SA perhaps then separate homelands might have to be the answer. In fact this could have happened in 1994, but on a more proportional basis than in the past.
And for the record, I haven't been all that impressed with the ANC governments which have become so loonie left-wing that their policies defy logic.
Seems like we agree more than i though. I think seperate homelands would a possibe solution for SA. But agree not like aparthied thou. Each homeland sould have more independence, it might even be better to divide more seperrately than apartheid did and give the whites/boers there own homeland as well. They have already suggest a strecth of land called orangje.
Well yeah an Afrikaaner state ONLY since they are the largest and most significant non-black population, everybody else takes their chances in the "New" South Africa. That Boar state would have to accurately reflect the total Afrikaaner puplation of say 10-15% of the puplation. Afrikaaners can run it like they want even have Apartheid in it if they think they can do so without getting global scorn.
Dont let this pongo BS u. That is what he talks. They have robbed the world blind now that they have had had their fill they condem and take the moral high ground. They just released a killer for oil!
Sorry, if i got a bit up you mate, just get a bot sensitive with this topics. Cuase it is my ancestors that died then and my friends and family getting murder in sa today(The farm murders and just the general massive crime rate over there).
What about the French u r always insulting. NO, next u wil say it is just fun between u for long time. I dont think so they hate you too! Who does like you? U think u r superior to Yanks too, aslo insult them!
They hate you too, and want a seperate state.Just awhile ago missed getting it by a few votes. People like to be in their own place among their own with their own culture. You famous India butchered each other to get that.
This is a good video, it shaped the country. The Boers with it's European background is to proud to let go and English has so much convidence of defeating other countries. There is no need to discuss the situation, it is part of what shaped the country. Different internal wars going on in South-Africa now will sort it out by matter of time. We all have tough lives but it is what lies in you not what you own. We are more special than you know. I have traveled the world!
Henk1270 2 months ago
The documentary stopped before they got to the "good" part. 50% of all Boers under 16 were murdered in the concentration camp. Hitler would have been proud. May Kitchener burn in hell.
ronpaul2008rocks 11 months ago
WOWOWOW, this video is a joke, typical british nonsense.
trueinlightenment 1 year ago
however the blacks were treated by the Whites both British and Boer in SA, the blacks were still treated better than they were by other blacks.
Merely look to any African black nation today for this indisputable fact.
bhibatsu 2 years ago 6
Oh, bugger off all of you. Enjoy the show. And death to Islam.
mountainsinco 2 years ago
Some peoples attitudes! They watch a video dont like the truth,dont debate it, but make personal insults against the person of the victims, murdered Boer women, children&elderly, men, servants, property&live stock. Somehow they were able to see into the future & justified the genocide as it was caused by apartheid that happened 50 years into the future! You may not mention what they done at any time before yesterday cause it is their reserve.
thorstry 2 years ago
You're a racist asshole my friend! I hope you don't call yourself a Christian.
There is no apartheid in heaven. All are God's people ... but those like you who hate some of His children!
qlaw04 2 years ago
I think the last thing the UK can call it's self is christian! In my book a so called apartheider will make heaven before a warmongering genocider!
thorstry 2 years ago 2
Then they tell you to keep current! LOL. This is all while (current at the time or shortly before/after apartheid) they had been in Palestine, korea,Aden,Falklands,Kenya,Vietnam,suez,Malaya,Cyprus,Boreno,Ireland,Radfan,Dafor,Oman to mention a few of the SCORES more. Had open race riots in UK. Even now have no go areas for whites in some UK cities! Have the BNP. Then they embellish, lie, twist and weakly excuse their guilt & hypocrisy.
thorstry 2 years ago
Raped Africa and Asia leaving a terrible mess which is a total failure & conflict ridden. None of their former colonies (without apartheid) is a success. Most of them know nothing about Africa & its unique complexities. BBC panorama showed (to presenters dismay) Black South Africans stating they were better off under White Nats! He tried in vain to change mans mind not wanting the mans opinion! I have an English friend who went camping & was worried about the way sheep were staring at him!
thorstry 2 years ago
You're a racist asshole! And you complain that now blacks are mistreating you Afrikanners? I wonder why?
Hypocritical asshole.
Youn know most whites if they heard you talk like this would have NOTHING to do with you!
qlaw04 2 years ago
Look Thorsty I'm not going to continue this meaningless dialogue with you. The point is simple. if you lived in Britain, Europe or North America in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s, you would have seen that the whole world, be it white, black, yellow or brown people were AGAINST you Afrikaaners for how ou treated the blacks during Aparhtied.
That's what the sactions against South Africa movement was all about. the Canadians described you guys as the last people to have constitutional racism.
qlaw04 2 years ago
K, mate but look the fact is apartheid wasn't in all right. But the fact is apartheid was started for protection it just became out of hand. Anyway i think we should have set up our own state way back before we started it and gave SA to the rest. But that were britian comes into the picture(they wouldn't have given us it back then)
1brandwag 2 years ago
We had a state that was unoccupied ground in spite of which in the spirit of good relations negotiated with & paid for with a signed treaty from the Zulus under Dingaan. The English sabotagued that. The Orange Free state & Traansvaal Republic were & legally still are independant internationally recognised states. But the murdering thieving brits ruined that. There is not 1 country in the world where there are different races live together in harmony. If there is please tell me.
thorstry 2 years ago
Yes i know and totally agree, makes me so pissed of too, when i think of it. The worst thing is that the boer men fought well but the the lives of the women and children was what made the boers sign the treaty and agree( dink nie die weste kan ooit verstaan nie, hulle het geen idee van hoe afrika werk nie).
1brandwag 2 years ago
The discribtion on this video is much better an more accurate of what mostly accpeted facts about the boer war, than this video.
1brandwag 2 years ago
Yes, I know if u listen to propaganda long enough u will beleive it. U were not there.Most but not all things about apartheid were not right but a neccisity at the time cause of what u caused. Late 60's in Usa south the clan was very strong & operating openly. Racial tension is simmering there all the time as it is in UK. Buy still has nothing to do with Boer war atrocities which u commited.
thorstry 2 years ago
No buddy, there can NEVER be an excuse for treating people that way. YOU wouldn't like to have been treated like blacks were in SA so why if its not good for you is it good for them? Hypocrite!
qlaw04 2 years ago
Surprising to see such a pro-British episode on Irish tv. Very interesting still, thank you for this.
gelei 4 years ago
Not too many Irish are into white racism. Look at some of Ireland's favourite sons, U2, Bob Geldoff, the Kennedys many of North America's trade unionists come from Ireland.
They are all about liberalism and social justice and the like.
qlaw04 2 years ago
No, they just hate you, what do you call that? U are the asshole and u could'nt kick any Boers u tried twice and got nailed pongo!
thorstry 2 years ago
Screw all Empire builders and the greedy bankers that have been an evil amongst mankind.
SiriosIX 4 years ago 2
Pity it des nots speak of farm destruction and the many civilians killed by charing British to win a war of greed.
rigolissimo 4 years ago 6
that is true, one can say this was made in a british point of view....
Timechanging 4 years ago
Yeah, i found the BBC documentaries on the boer war took a more neutral view, this video hide al lot of things that happened
1brandwag 2 years ago
Funny since the BBC is so left-wing. You think the BBC would hate the Boers, these ultra-Calvinist, Christian conservatives who are the architecs of Apartheid. But then the BBC is so used to attacking Britain and British culture that they can't spot a juicer target when they see one... safe for George Bush. Commie cowards!
qlaw04 2 years ago
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1brandwag 2 years ago
How 'bout I give you a taste of your own shit asshole??
I suspect there are quite a few of you Boers living in my country which you see as a "white alternative" to your own. Funny you all once here don't take the same way you did in SA , because you know you'd get your asses whipped!
qlaw04 2 years ago
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1brandwag 2 years ago
Hey MATE.... I don't hate Afrikaaners ... I look at you people and see the French Canadians who run Canada. They like you were also left w/o support from their mother Country (France) and lost in combat to the British Empire. Like you they too had two choices, 1. become subservient to the Crown and the Empire or make alliances with the natives (Indians to your Zulus) and survive on. The French kind of did both and survived. You all alienated both groups and today have no homeland.
qlaw04 2 years ago
K, mate, glad to know you dont hate us. but guess your kind of right, nobody has there own homeland in sa now. but we did try make allaince with the zulu, we even signed agreement to buy land and also many agreement with the british. But lets let he past be the past hey. the english and the boers settled their war along time ago. Guess the only change for us now is to settle the differnces and finally try to work together.
1brandwag 2 years ago
Well look, if things keep regressing as they are in SA perhaps then separate homelands might have to be the answer. In fact this could have happened in 1994, but on a more proportional basis than in the past.
And for the record, I haven't been all that impressed with the ANC governments which have become so loonie left-wing that their policies defy logic.
qlaw04 2 years ago
Seems like we agree more than i though. I think seperate homelands would a possibe solution for SA. But agree not like aparthied thou. Each homeland sould have more independence, it might even be better to divide more seperrately than apartheid did and give the whites/boers there own homeland as well. They have already suggest a strecth of land called orangje.
1brandwag 2 years ago
Well yeah an Afrikaaner state ONLY since they are the largest and most significant non-black population, everybody else takes their chances in the "New" South Africa. That Boar state would have to accurately reflect the total Afrikaaner puplation of say 10-15% of the puplation. Afrikaaners can run it like they want even have Apartheid in it if they think they can do so without getting global scorn.
qlaw04 2 years ago
Dont let this pongo BS u. That is what he talks. They have robbed the world blind now that they have had had their fill they condem and take the moral high ground. They just released a killer for oil!
thorstry 2 years ago
Sorry, if i got a bit up you mate, just get a bot sensitive with this topics. Cuase it is my ancestors that died then and my friends and family getting murder in sa today(The farm murders and just the general massive crime rate over there).
1brandwag 2 years ago
What about the French u r always insulting. NO, next u wil say it is just fun between u for long time. I dont think so they hate you too! Who does like you? U think u r superior to Yanks too, aslo insult them!
thorstry 2 years ago
They hate you too, and want a seperate state.Just awhile ago missed getting it by a few votes. People like to be in their own place among their own with their own culture. You famous India butchered each other to get that.
thorstry 2 years ago
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1brandwag 2 years ago