Thank god I'm not on this video. I was too depressed to do anything that day. Does that happen to anyone else I wonder, they turn up to an event and they're just too depressed to do anything? I was handed the megaphone, but I would have just killed everyone's buzz with a long, dark speech in my cavernous tones so I refused to speak. Shit.
PS ; none of you are slaves ...thats just adolescent hyperbole ...you all need to grow up ..forget about conspiracy theories and get your heads around politics ...
Veitch does not deserve a break, the guy has defrauded you all of funds that could have been spent on your own communities! Let us audit his accounts and indeed we will be prepared to consider avoiding direct action if indeed he can show that he hasn't proffited from others! Greed is a major issue when souls ask/beg funds from the lowest feudal class, rob the rich and spead the wealth around the poor, that's the spirit of the commoners, not frigging taking form them whilst you stab them in back!
The megaphoning in this vid reminds me of British Rail tannoy announcements : ) "And the next train will be ...mmmfffffblllmmmfff " .... A bunch of incoherent teeny boppers shouting at passing shoppers ... There isnt a coherent political idea between them ... the whole thing is laughable ..Is this what passes for politics these days ?
@DJTimoshii ; This isnt any kind of politics ...its kiddies shouting inanities at passers by ...The false reality ...is in thinking that this somehow constitutes politics / political struggle ...
@nolslifegren The whole idea is everyone & anyone was free to express themselves in any way shape or form they feel they wanted to. If you wanted to express yourself, you could have done so, you could have turned up & played your part in "steering the ship" towards whatever methods YOU think should be done. But were you there?...NO!. Get out there!. Focus on our oppressors. Bitchin' at other slaves ain't gonna get you anywhere. I'm not interested in slaves vs slaves. Nor keyboard warriors.
@DJTimoshii ; What you do isnt politics or political struggle ... its merely the free expression of your lack of coherent political ideas ... it changes nothing ..but makes you feel good for few hours ...
They just made a nuisance of themselves, inferred that members of the public out shopping are "sheep", via loudhailer, and then fucked off back to their respective mommies basements.
@FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL well most shopping arcardes these days are private property. you are not allowed to even take an innocent photo of your friends let alone use a megaphone. so lovely to see a mass of people all fiming and expressing themselves against the corportation. Dont you want to see some nice expressions like this that show you at least some people are alive and still thinking??
"well most shopping arcardes these days are private property."
So what?
If you dont like shopping arcades and their rules, dont go in them.
Simple, no?
Dont go and act like a dick and whine about your rights and tell other shoppers how they are "sheep" via megaphone and pretend you are being "oppressed"..
You dont like the rules then stay out of private property.
@FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL listen troll, you dont like it then jog on ok. ''stay out of private property.'' no why because its fucking ours NOT yours...now fuck off troll
@Kazinthegarden ; Erm if its private ..then by definition ..its not "yours" ... thats like saying i can march into my neighbours house and take it over ..because even though they bought it ..i somehow "own " it ... Thats demonstrably false ..and a very silly thing to say ... : )
@Kazinthegarden ; In a free country with free speech ..im allowed to dislike something ..and even hang around to criticise it ..criticism isnt the same thing as hate ...hate is when you call people twat ...yknow ? : )
@Kazinthegarden ; Watch the vid again ..you probably see mass political action ...(lol) ...all it is ..in reality ..is a bunch of kiddies aimlessly milling around a shopping centre ...
Sigh ..bye bye then ..dont try and answer any questions or anything ... Whats the next big political target then ? WH Smith ? HMV? : )
Your house, I have decided, is now public property, and I feel most annoyed that you are treating it as your own personal property, I am inviting a substantial number of people from a homeless charity forum to move in.
@Kazinthegarden The only way this shopping arcade could be even vaguely considered as "yours" would be if it was publically owned, paid for by taxpayers.
But I thought your daft little cult had a problem with paying taxes anyway?
gets pretty owned at about 10:10 i never seem to understand why people that disagree with taxes then go and target tax dodging companies, especially when people like charlie veitch post videos saying to to pay your taxes, seems slightly ironic.
@mrresistancenow This group was made up of all kinds of people with differing opinions on how best to approach the issues. So you will get what seem to be contradictions. We are not the borg. For me, all tax (unless by consent) is wrong....but if we are to be forced to pay tax, then the disproporationate tax breaks the corporations receive is downright immoral. So we give the corporations beef for being in cahoots with the government. Makes sense to me.
@FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL obviously you missed the unless by consent part. I would expect we might consent to health service tax. CONSENT is the key. FORCE is fascism.
If the system was set up the way you are suggesting then, for example, and everyone could opt out of taxes for various services, then state funded public infrastructure would collapse.
@FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL ; Thats too much like common sense ! It shows how politically confused all these little conspiracy groups are ..that they include what are essentially right wing ideas (American ones at that ) within their tiny world view ...Taxes pays for war so paying taxes = war ...Yeah ..but taxes also pays for ..a little girls heart operation /pensioners meals on wheels service /spmeones hip replacement etc ... The fact that they cant grasp this simple fact shows how dumb they are : )
@FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL ; Lol ...check the actual wacmanchester channel ... talk about thick ...They favourited a vid by notorious racist David Duke ..when i pointed out to them who he was they seemed unconcerned ...because he had "turned against the NWO too " ...you couldnt make this shit up . Some of their members also favourite art by a David Dees who apparently is a holocaust denier ...you have to wonder who is really behind these little grouplets ...
@nolslifegren ''''''you have to wonder who is really behind these little grouplets'''' you have to wonder who is behins all these trolling comments as well
@Kazinthegarden ; So ..youre not concerned that wacmanchester favourited a vid by notorious racist David Duke (KKK) ..or that some of them seem to favour work by the holocaust denier artist David Dees ? Doesnt even make you question who youre getting into bed with (politically) just a little bit ?
@nolslifegren twat go take your hate somehwere else, you got nothing better to than insult others...why dont you find a clip of something you LIKE. I think you're actually a lil bit jealous of these nice people cus the've actually got some balls and beliefs..hurts doesnt it : )
@nolslifegren We're just glad we don't have blinkered Blairites like you in our ranks. Your Left/Right shite has left you behind - you're just so gormless you can't see it! Obviously a TROLL who still lives with his mum, sat in his bedroom in his underpants, acting all hard behind his keyboard....what a complete knob!
@nolslifegren Why would BNP members want to join us? They'd get the same short shrift as Marxist drones like you. If they saw the error of their ways and left all their race hate behind them I'd have no problem with a new member of the resistance joining with us. Just the same as I'd forgive a member of the 'Thought Police' like you should you decide to wake up and stop being a Stalinist Cock!
@wacmanchester ; Make your mind up ...before you called me a blairite ! Its testament to your confusion that you could throw two disparate labels at me : )
@nolslifegren All the same shade of shite....and that's rich coming from you - the tosser who tars WAC with racism because one video, with one message was liked. So according to your logic every time we find any common ground with anyone, we must automatically agree 100% with all their views. Think about what you're saying. Its just PC thought control and guilt by association - straight from the 'Frankfurt School' school of sheeple manipulation. Do some reading...you might learn something
@wacmanchester ; The point i made about the David Duke video ..is that anyone with an ounce of sense would put as many miles between themselves and that hate spewing fascist ..as possible ..your original reaction was a "so what " comment ..apparently the vid has now been unfavourited so im told ...hooray for common sense ..shame common sense had to be pointed out to you ...
@nolslifegren If its been 'unfavourited' its not been by me or anyone I know. The message of that 'ONE' video was totally valid. I repeat, we won't play your 'guilt by association' game. Now go back to the comfort of your 'Cultural Marxist' blanket and leave the revolution to people who have seen through your dogma and crap and want to bring real change to this world.
@nolslifegren Are you just deliberately being thick?? Liking one particular view of one person does not mean you support or like all that person's views! Its a simple enough concept - obviously not simple enough for an 'Orwellian Thought Police gate keeper' like you. Stop doing the NWO's job for them and get a fucking life!
@wacmanchester ; there is no NWO dumbo ..the old one is very much in charge ...i asked whether you were happy to be associated with this Duke bloke ..all you had to say was yes or no ..which is it ? : )
@nolslifegren There is no association you thick twat! Just as trying to reason with a cunt like you on here doesn't make me an associate of yours, just because I might agree with something you say. Just admit it - your argument is straight from the 'Frankfurt School' manual and then you can get back to Trolling those who can't see through your Stalinist shite!
@wacmanchester ; Your failure to answer a simple question ..leads me to deduce that you are (at least by now ) embarrassed by the favouriting of a video by the notorious racist / fascist David Duke ...a victory for common sense ... : )
@wacmanchester Theres a couple of these turgid trolls mate, not sure which payrole they are on but we are getting close to identifying them. No normal person would bother loitering on things they obviously didnt like so they must be paid misinfo. Good though cus they realise the movement is growing and they are getting scared.
@TJrebelTV ; On paying taxes ..we enter into a social contract ....we pay taxes ..we receive various services etc ...infrastructure ... it isnt fascism to pay taxes ffs ...
@mrresistancenow the difference is foooool, that we get fined, taken to court and ultimately thrown in jail for not paying our tax. Why is nobody doing the same to the people running these companies? The amount of tax owed by these organisations accounts for exactly the amount the government is trying to cut from our wealth-fare. Why not chase the money owed rather screw the common man. Especially when its huge corporations like these that are largely at fault for perpetuating this depression.
Of course charlie likes this he's seeing the imitation of his template for action. I think your hearts are in the right place and I admire your attempts to do something about your convictions. However, I think following the Veitch strategy is counter productive. A gang of lads walking around town ranting into a megaphone whilst filming it for you tube is intimidating and unlikely to win many hearts and minds especially once the bbc have broadcast their hitpiece.,,....just saying
@Gunt78 that's funny, coz the people of manchester loved it and we had lots of smiles and hugs from them. How can people be intimidated when we offer them muffins and hugs?! The only way to affect this is be a part of it. Nothing will change from behind your computer screen.
@TJrebelTV maybe so but in terms of watching it on you tube and this is largely down to the technique i.e lack of editing the message was unclear. Whilst people on the street may have enjoyed your spectacle, how many minds did you wake up? I agree that sitting behind a computer screen is not going to affect change but neither is this. You need to think more creatively and not just follow the template set out by someone who it increasingly seems is some sort of psy-op.
@jengal, I liked it, I am just answering someone from earlier,The damage to be done in the mainstream by Charlie unsubstantiated U turn deserves attacking in my view...Similar to his view about Mother rape and Axes, he has been used (willingly or unwillingly) as someone to be put up by the mainstream as someone who was unwell who us now cured of his conspiracy tendencies... you watch pal... the BBC are going to have a field day... hes a cunt, UNLESS he can justify his change of heart..
people are disliking this because Charlie liked it... hes gone to the darkside and he doesnt even know it... hes been used completely for the big hit BBC piece where we will be called "unstable etc" he has done loads of damge and the sooner he starts sucking corporate cok again, or just fucks off in general, the better...
@eyeballkid88 From your foul language and inability to communicate as a human being, let alone an adult, you might be the one on the "darkside". If people dislike this because Charlie likes it, then maybe there is something wrong with them!
We all can lead ourselves! Be your own leader and listen to your heart. Love & Light to you.
@eyeballkid88 Newsflash!! a lot of truthers clearly are "unstable etc." they've proved it themselves with their recent hysterical over-reaction and childish vitriol.
Dont get me wrong half the stuff you say you have a point but to a certain extent its very hypocritical and immature, I dont see how you can change the world by doing the konga around manchester lol Why dont you put together a plan of how to run a country and preech that on the streets and who knows maybe get a political party and get elected. When you have a family to feed and care for your saying we should just give up our jobs and stop paying taxes just so we can live free?
@wuskul "Why dont you put together a plan of how to run a country and preech that on the streets and who knows maybe get a political party and get elected."
Human nature tells us that this is impossible: 50% will pay attention to what you are saying - 20% of 50% will agree - 20% of 20% of 50% will remember your "political party" - Therefore, you will receive votes from ~2% of the people who heard you speak, or 0.01% of the population if you do it every week from now until election day.
So you are just going to walk around streets with a megaphone thinking you are untouchable for the next however many years it takes you all to grow up?
@wuskul How are we not "untouchable?" What does that even mean? Will a stranger punch us in the face for speaking our minds? Will a cop beat us and arrest us for speaking to strangers?
Also, what does it mean to be "grown up?" The more I think about it, the more I think it means: Jaded, insecure, depressed, alone, tired, anxious, defeated. Am I close? I would truly like to know. =)
What a bunch of dicks, they preech to people saying that children are dying for every pair of trainers that are made, yet clearly they are wearing trainers themselfs LOL
And they preech to people telling them to not pay taxes, where do these people buy there clothes from?
@wuskul I perceive it this way: We are in a time where everyone must make changes in their lives, and bit by bit we are trying to find alternative solutions, everyone does what they can in their own way. We all know we can all be hypocrites, we are surrounded and enslaved in this corporate world, but we are trying to free ourselves....are you?
@wuskul I've been wearing the same 10 pairs of pants for over 8 years, which I bought at a second hand store.
It isn't whether or not you own clothes(obviously), it is whether or not you own an excessive amount of clothes. Every decision ripples throughout our global society. Many do not understand nor realize this.
Doesnt make a difference if you bought them second hand or brand new you would have still payed tax and VAT on them.
I understand what your saying but who are you to tell people not to have excessive amounts of clothing? Isnt that what your preeching about saying we should all be free and make our own choices?
You drink water out the tap? or buy it in a bottle? Somewhere along the lines your paying towards what you preech against.
@wuskul "Walking round with a megaphone wont change anything."
"Changing your personal consumption habits won't change anything."
"Changing the perceptions/beliefs of those around you won't change anything."
"Refusing to pay taxes won't change anything."
You sure are pessimistic to be sitting around watching activism videos, aren't you? Maybe these brave, caring youth would be doing a better service to the world by sitting around locked up in their homes playing Xbox all day?
@wuskul Which part of "Marks & Spencer fund Israeli state terrorism (Rothschild Zionism)" don't you understand? Very little to do with the clothes themselves.
@wuskul You seem to have missed a fundamental point.....Iraq is an ILLEGAL war. Also, I didn't mention Iraq specifically in that post.....I said Israeli state terrorism (Rothschild Zionism). Whats YOUR point?
@refill1234567 - trolls / government are the only one's that hate PEACE AND LOVE !!! they are trying to infiltrate the love police because they think they can stop an idea that's time has come ? How wrong they are !!
@cveitch - yeah Charlie, you got to come to Birmingham, the people that think you are some sort of insider are mostly from America, and as much as they may disagree im sure 90% of them would not resort to violence , and even the ones that do, can't take on the love police , FUCK THEM !! Other than the POLICE, We are the biggest gang in town > ? And we have love in our hearts !!!
terrorist terrorist terrorist ! lmfao ! go back shopping nothing to see and please don't think to loud , the government wont be to happy to know you think and ask question...they have to lie damn !
On a lighter note... Big up the youth! x
Steven00D 2 months ago
Check out 08:31. A mini Veitch, oh dear!! :)
Steven00D 2 months ago
HOW to WAKEUP your whole town in oneday.
1.Get a decent leaflet together with key points such as 9/11, Swine flu scam Hollie Greig etc with key websites on
2.select at least 10 people together
reach every street and rd in your local town.
3.reach at least north east west south of the town
4.two people per road will do
5.try to fit in 2 hrs per morning. meetup for lunch break with your fella truthers
and try at least two more hours in the afternoon.
Anymore ideas get back to me.
essy111 2 months ago
i got six minutes into the vid and stopped watching it these people are not going to change anything
redimp79 4 months ago
Thank god I'm not on this video. I was too depressed to do anything that day. Does that happen to anyone else I wonder, they turn up to an event and they're just too depressed to do anything? I was handed the megaphone, but I would have just killed everyone's buzz with a long, dark speech in my cavernous tones so I refused to speak. Shit.
KnowingDasEin 5 months ago
22:47 - a pretty much forced group hug receiving smiles from the police, now that's a beautiful moment, and how things should always be!
Dunamis6969 6 months ago
Great to see that our "interdimensional wizard" is keeping up with his megaphoning ;)
Dunamis6969 6 months ago 2
@spaceinvader79 lol from this response i am guessing its done you more harm than you realize :)
worldchange1 6 months ago
PS ; none of you are slaves ...thats just adolescent hyperbole ...you all need to grow up ..forget about conspiracy theories and get your heads around politics ...
nolslifegren 7 months ago
Because we dont agree with them they call us trolls and think we are on a payroll !!
LOL These people are so fucked up.
Dont upload it to youtube if you cant handle criticism and opinions.
Then again you are stupid people.
wuskul 7 months ago
charlie says, 911 was an inside job.
dangerousslave 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
see my view of this on my channel :)
arronperryofficial 7 months ago
Veitch does not deserve a break, the guy has defrauded you all of funds that could have been spent on your own communities! Let us audit his accounts and indeed we will be prepared to consider avoiding direct action if indeed he can show that he hasn't proffited from others! Greed is a major issue when souls ask/beg funds from the lowest feudal class, rob the rich and spead the wealth around the poor, that's the spirit of the commoners, not frigging taking form them whilst you stab them in back!
GuardianofDivinity 7 months ago 2
@GuardianofDivinity The comment was ironical mate....CV used the 'bad back' excuse for his non appearance at the Manchester shindig.
wacmanchester 7 months ago
lol nice!!
steadystef36 7 months ago
The megaphoning in this vid reminds me of British Rail tannoy announcements : ) "And the next train will be ...mmmfffffblllmmmfff " .... A bunch of incoherent teeny boppers shouting at passing shoppers ... There isnt a coherent political idea between them ... the whole thing is laughable ..Is this what passes for politics these days ?
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren no but its what passes for freedom
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@nolslifegren No....it's what passes for PEOPLE. If you're still playing left-right politics, you're stuck in a false reality.
DJTimoshii 7 months ago
@DJTimoshii ; This isnt any kind of politics ...its kiddies shouting inanities at passers by ...The false reality ...is in thinking that this somehow constitutes politics / political struggle ...
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren The whole idea is everyone & anyone was free to express themselves in any way shape or form they feel they wanted to. If you wanted to express yourself, you could have done so, you could have turned up & played your part in "steering the ship" towards whatever methods YOU think should be done. But were you there?...NO!. Get out there!. Focus on our oppressors. Bitchin' at other slaves ain't gonna get you anywhere. I'm not interested in slaves vs slaves. Nor keyboard warriors.
DJTimoshii 7 months ago
@DJTimoshii ; What you do isnt politics or political struggle ... its merely the free expression of your lack of coherent political ideas ... it changes nothing ..but makes you feel good for few hours ...
nolslifegren 7 months ago 2
Theres something very beautiful about a mass hokey kokey and taking back property that was once public...well done guys n gals
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden
"taking back property that was once public"
How did they "take back" anything?
They just made a nuisance of themselves, inferred that members of the public out shopping are "sheep", via loudhailer, and then fucked off back to their respective mommies basements.
Whooopee doo.
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 7 months ago
@FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL well most shopping arcardes these days are private property. you are not allowed to even take an innocent photo of your friends let alone use a megaphone. so lovely to see a mass of people all fiming and expressing themselves against the corportation. Dont you want to see some nice expressions like this that show you at least some people are alive and still thinking??
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden
"well most shopping arcardes these days are private property."
So what?
If you dont like shopping arcades and their rules, dont go in them.
Simple, no?
Dont go and act like a dick and whine about your rights and tell other shoppers how they are "sheep" via megaphone and pretend you are being "oppressed"..
You dont like the rules then stay out of private property.
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 7 months ago
@FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL listen troll, you dont like it then jog on ok. ''stay out of private property.'' no why because its fucking ours NOT yours...now fuck off troll
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden ; Erm if its private ..then by definition ..its not "yours" ... thats like saying i can march into my neighbours house and take it over ..because even though they bought it ..i somehow "own " it ... Thats demonstrably false ..and a very silly thing to say ... : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren blah blah blah keep on talkin
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden ; Blah blah ..keep on hating and being confused : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren I am not confused about anything, you are the one staying here thats doesnt like this
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden ; In a free country with free speech ..im allowed to dislike something ..and even hang around to criticise it ..criticism isnt the same thing as hate ...hate is when you call people twat ...yknow ? : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren so you just throught you would drop in and hate on these nice youngsters, and then hang around and slag all n sundry, well how nice OUT
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden ; Criticism isnt hate ... didnt they teach you anything at school last week ? : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren bye bye
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden
I own your house and Im going to come round with some friends and sit on the floor and whine about you "oppressing me".
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 7 months ago
@FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL ; Lol ...she cant handle the logic : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden ; Watch the vid again ..you probably see mass political action ...(lol) ...all it is ..in reality ..is a bunch of kiddies aimlessly milling around a shopping centre ...
Sigh ..bye bye then ..dont try and answer any questions or anything ... Whats the next big political target then ? WH Smith ? HMV? : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren or you could have a go yourself!! yes you, I think you have missed the point of this somewhat
but if you dont get it you just wont get it
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden ; Which one ? WH SMITH ..or HMV ? : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden
Your house, I have decided, is now public property, and I feel most annoyed that you are treating it as your own personal property, I am inviting a substantial number of people from a homeless charity forum to move in.
Hope you dont mind.
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden ; If a criminal steals your stuff ...is that ok ..because he "owns" it ?
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden
How is private property, paid for and maintained by private companies, somehow yours?
You wouldnt walk into someone elses house and start whining about their house rules, or it being "your" property would you?
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden The only way this shopping arcade could be even vaguely considered as "yours" would be if it was publically owned, paid for by taxpayers.
But I thought your daft little cult had a problem with paying taxes anyway?
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 7 months ago
@FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL ''''your daft little cult '''' lol I simply cant imagine why you have nothing better to do...oh oh yes if do..bless
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden
So you are prepared to pay taxes to take these evil shopping arcades into public ownership?
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden ; Thought your type were against shopping anyway ? Isnt that what charlie railed against in a lot of his "resistance" vids ?
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren and what exactly is my 'type'? if you dont like this then please walk on by
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden ;Love Police /Charlie disciple : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren no and please dont make assumptions. dont assume!
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@Kazinthegarden ; Dont assume people are trolls ..simply because they ask you questions which you are unable to answer ...
nolslifegren 7 months ago
What a bunch of fucking morons.
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 7 months ago
@FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL why such hate for freedom lovers?
TJrebelTV 7 months ago
@TJrebelTV You mean spoilt kids with megaphones telling everyone else how they are "sheep"?
Fucking morons one and all.
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 7 months ago
gets pretty owned at about 10:10 i never seem to understand why people that disagree with taxes then go and target tax dodging companies, especially when people like charlie veitch post videos saying to to pay your taxes, seems slightly ironic.
mrresistancenow 7 months ago
@mrresistancenow This group was made up of all kinds of people with differing opinions on how best to approach the issues. So you will get what seem to be contradictions. We are not the borg. For me, all tax (unless by consent) is wrong....but if we are to be forced to pay tax, then the disproporationate tax breaks the corporations receive is downright immoral. So we give the corporations beef for being in cahoots with the government. Makes sense to me.
TJrebelTV 7 months ago
@TJrebelTV
"all tax (unless by consent) is wrong.."
You should remember you said that next time you end up in an NHS hospital.
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 7 months ago
@FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL obviously you missed the unless by consent part. I would expect we might consent to health service tax. CONSENT is the key. FORCE is fascism.
TJrebelTV 7 months ago
@TJrebelTV
No I didnt miss that, you are saying that people should be able to opt in and out of the tax system.
There is no option for just paying tax for the NHS.
Just as there is no specific option for paying for infrastructure such as schools for example.
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 7 months ago
@TJrebelTV
If the system was set up the way you are suggesting then, for example, and everyone could opt out of taxes for various services, then state funded public infrastructure would collapse.
Agreed?
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 7 months ago
@FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL ; Thats too much like common sense ! It shows how politically confused all these little conspiracy groups are ..that they include what are essentially right wing ideas (American ones at that ) within their tiny world view ...Taxes pays for war so paying taxes = war ...Yeah ..but taxes also pays for ..a little girls heart operation /pensioners meals on wheels service /spmeones hip replacement etc ... The fact that they cant grasp this simple fact shows how dumb they are : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren
(.that they include what are essentially right wing ideas (American ones at that )
Exactly, Im not sure just how aware they are, that they are aligned with the thinking of extreme right wing US militias.
Maybe they dont care.
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 7 months ago
@FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL ; Lol ...check the actual wacmanchester channel ... talk about thick ...They favourited a vid by notorious racist David Duke ..when i pointed out to them who he was they seemed unconcerned ...because he had "turned against the NWO too " ...you couldnt make this shit up . Some of their members also favourite art by a David Dees who apparently is a holocaust denier ...you have to wonder who is really behind these little grouplets ...
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren ''''''you have to wonder who is really behind these little grouplets'''' you have to wonder who is behins all these trolling comments as well
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden ; So ..youre not concerned that wacmanchester favourited a vid by notorious racist David Duke (KKK) ..or that some of them seem to favour work by the holocaust denier artist David Dees ? Doesnt even make you question who youre getting into bed with (politically) just a little bit ?
Me ? a concerned individual ... : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren no i am not concerned cus i havent even seen the clip fuckwit
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden ; Ooh feel the love ... (not) : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren twat go take your hate somehwere else, you got nothing better to than insult others...why dont you find a clip of something you LIKE. I think you're actually a lil bit jealous of these nice people cus the've actually got some balls and beliefs..hurts doesnt it : )
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden ; Im sensing a lot of hostility on your part : ) could that be because ive merely identified your confusion to you ? : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
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@nolslifegren I think not, you dont have the intelligence and as we have already seen no balls
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
I see only one person hating here ..and its the one calling other people twat etc ... take a look in the mirror kiddo : : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden ; People who laugh at your confusion : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren no
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@nolslifegren We're just glad we don't have blinkered Blairites like you in our ranks. Your Left/Right shite has left you behind - you're just so gormless you can't see it! Obviously a TROLL who still lives with his mum, sat in his bedroom in his underpants, acting all hard behind his keyboard....what a complete knob!
wacmanchester 7 months ago
@wacmanchester ; Would you accept BNP members into your ranks ... seeing as you dont see a left right divide in politics .. ?
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren Why would BNP members want to join us? They'd get the same short shrift as Marxist drones like you. If they saw the error of their ways and left all their race hate behind them I'd have no problem with a new member of the resistance joining with us. Just the same as I'd forgive a member of the 'Thought Police' like you should you decide to wake up and stop being a Stalinist Cock!
wacmanchester 7 months ago
@wacmanchester ; Make your mind up ...before you called me a blairite ! Its testament to your confusion that you could throw two disparate labels at me : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren All the same shade of shite....and that's rich coming from you - the tosser who tars WAC with racism because one video, with one message was liked. So according to your logic every time we find any common ground with anyone, we must automatically agree 100% with all their views. Think about what you're saying. Its just PC thought control and guilt by association - straight from the 'Frankfurt School' school of sheeple manipulation. Do some reading...you might learn something
wacmanchester 7 months ago
@wacmanchester ; The point i made about the David Duke video ..is that anyone with an ounce of sense would put as many miles between themselves and that hate spewing fascist ..as possible ..your original reaction was a "so what " comment ..apparently the vid has now been unfavourited so im told ...hooray for common sense ..shame common sense had to be pointed out to you ...
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren If its been 'unfavourited' its not been by me or anyone I know. The message of that 'ONE' video was totally valid. I repeat, we won't play your 'guilt by association' game. Now go back to the comfort of your 'Cultural Marxist' blanket and leave the revolution to people who have seen through your dogma and crap and want to bring real change to this world.
wacmanchester 7 months ago
@wacmanchester ; So youre happy to be associated with the fascist racist KKK David Duke ? Yes or no ...
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren Are you just deliberately being thick?? Liking one particular view of one person does not mean you support or like all that person's views! Its a simple enough concept - obviously not simple enough for an 'Orwellian Thought Police gate keeper' like you. Stop doing the NWO's job for them and get a fucking life!
wacmanchester 7 months ago
@wacmanchester ; there is no NWO dumbo ..the old one is very much in charge ...i asked whether you were happy to be associated with this Duke bloke ..all you had to say was yes or no ..which is it ? : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren There is no association you thick twat! Just as trying to reason with a cunt like you on here doesn't make me an associate of yours, just because I might agree with something you say. Just admit it - your argument is straight from the 'Frankfurt School' manual and then you can get back to Trolling those who can't see through your Stalinist shite!
wacmanchester 7 months ago
@wacmanchester ; Your failure to answer a simple question ..leads me to deduce that you are (at least by now ) embarrassed by the favouriting of a video by the notorious racist / fascist David Duke ...a victory for common sense ... : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren Grow up you self important little prick!
wacmanchester 7 months ago
@wacmanchester ; Calm down dear : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@wacmanchester Theres a couple of these turgid trolls mate, not sure which payrole they are on but we are getting close to identifying them. No normal person would bother loitering on things they obviously didnt like so they must be paid misinfo. Good though cus they realise the movement is growing and they are getting scared.
Scared by the hokey cockey, imagine that!!! lol
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@Kazinthegarden
If someone was going to pay me, im sure they would have alot more intelligent things to do with the money
rather than getting me to comment on your videos.
This just proves how delusional you guys really are!
Grow up and get a job.
wuskul 7 months ago
@wuskul so fuck off to another page then troll
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@wacmanchester True
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
@TJrebelTV ; On paying taxes ..we enter into a social contract ....we pay taxes ..we receive various services etc ...infrastructure ... it isnt fascism to pay taxes ffs ...
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@mrresistancenow the difference is foooool, that we get fined, taken to court and ultimately thrown in jail for not paying our tax. Why is nobody doing the same to the people running these companies? The amount of tax owed by these organisations accounts for exactly the amount the government is trying to cut from our wealth-fare. Why not chase the money owed rather screw the common man. Especially when its huge corporations like these that are largely at fault for perpetuating this depression.
Gunt78 7 months ago
I raise my hat to you guy's for the video and the event , totally cool keep going !
You have brothers standing by your side in Montreal !
peace&prosperity
TheVerbalmilitia 7 months ago
Everyone is running scared about the "BBC Hit-Piece".
WTF!!!
We've got nearly two months to counter it, cause we have the knowledge of what is going to be broadcast!
tunnabrix 7 months ago
Of course charlie likes this he's seeing the imitation of his template for action. I think your hearts are in the right place and I admire your attempts to do something about your convictions. However, I think following the Veitch strategy is counter productive. A gang of lads walking around town ranting into a megaphone whilst filming it for you tube is intimidating and unlikely to win many hearts and minds especially once the bbc have broadcast their hitpiece.,,....just saying
Gunt78 7 months ago
@Gunt78 that's funny, coz the people of manchester loved it and we had lots of smiles and hugs from them. How can people be intimidated when we offer them muffins and hugs?! The only way to affect this is be a part of it. Nothing will change from behind your computer screen.
TJrebelTV 7 months ago
@TJrebelTV maybe so but in terms of watching it on you tube and this is largely down to the technique i.e lack of editing the message was unclear. Whilst people on the street may have enjoyed your spectacle, how many minds did you wake up? I agree that sitting behind a computer screen is not going to affect change but neither is this. You need to think more creatively and not just follow the template set out by someone who it increasingly seems is some sort of psy-op.
Gunt78 7 months ago
Great Stuff!
dancingobama 7 months ago
This is good peaple are just dislikeing it beacuse veitch likes it
blackmesa176 7 months ago
4:00 i've met him before... small world?
LiamSwordsz 7 months ago
Charlie is a hero and without him your attempts are futile
ClarkesonTheMarksman 7 months ago
@ClarkesonTheMarksman You definitely get the award for most retarded comment....congratulations!
DJTimoshii 7 months ago
@DJTimoshii You definately get the numpty award for taking sarcasm seriously :)
ClarkesonTheMarksman 7 months ago
@ClarkesonTheMarksman fair enough....text is open to perceptions and interpretations...
DJTimoshii 7 months ago
@DJTimoshii Tis indeed and I don't really think you deserve the numpty award as i dont know you, a lil harsh on my account, soz.
ClarkesonTheMarksman 7 months ago
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Listen to this. The truth was out there long ago .....
/watch?v=M5PzU-OrY3Y
... right from the shill's mouth.
kinmeru 7 months ago
i like this vid ! Remember don't let charles torres muddy your reputation!
thumbs up!
MrVitD 7 months ago
wearechange and charlie veitch should not be linked together anymore
2200BK 7 months ago 18
@2200BK ; Lol ..its embarrassing to both sides : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@2200BK Agreed, but im sure i seen the uploader and the red head lass on a vid with veitch in London last week on facebook
Steven00D 2 months ago
@jengal, I liked it, I am just answering someone from earlier,The damage to be done in the mainstream by Charlie unsubstantiated U turn deserves attacking in my view...Similar to his view about Mother rape and Axes, he has been used (willingly or unwillingly) as someone to be put up by the mainstream as someone who was unwell who us now cured of his conspiracy tendencies... you watch pal... the BBC are going to have a field day... hes a cunt, UNLESS he can justify his change of heart..
eyeballkid88 7 months ago
people are disliking this because Charlie liked it... hes gone to the darkside and he doesnt even know it... hes been used completely for the big hit BBC piece where we will be called "unstable etc" he has done loads of damge and the sooner he starts sucking corporate cok again, or just fucks off in general, the better...
Naive twat that he is...
eyeballkid88 7 months ago 13
@eyeballkid88 From your foul language and inability to communicate as a human being, let alone an adult, you might be the one on the "darkside". If people dislike this because Charlie likes it, then maybe there is something wrong with them!
We all can lead ourselves! Be your own leader and listen to your heart. Love & Light to you.
jengal1007 7 months ago
@eyeballkid88 ....charlie wasn't there. Stop talking about fucking charlie. Show support for freedom lovers!
DJTimoshii 7 months ago
@eyeballkid88 Newsflash!! a lot of truthers clearly are "unstable etc." they've proved it themselves with their recent hysterical over-reaction and childish vitriol.
jimbob1969 7 months ago
@jimbob1969 or maybe you're just being over-reactionary yourself? Quick to label those you don't know?
TJrebelTV 7 months ago
@TJrebelTV You know Charlie?
jimbob1969 7 months ago
@jimbob1969 ...I've met him. Wouldn't say I "know" him...but then, who "knows" anyone?
TJrebelTV 7 months ago
@eyeballkid88 ; I disliked it because its crap ..a bunch of pampered white middle class teeny boppers with nothing to say ....
nolslifegren 7 months ago
@nolslifegren so go elsewhere then
Kazinthegarden 7 months ago
Dont get me wrong half the stuff you say you have a point but to a certain extent its very hypocritical and immature, I dont see how you can change the world by doing the konga around manchester lol Why dont you put together a plan of how to run a country and preech that on the streets and who knows maybe get a political party and get elected. When you have a family to feed and care for your saying we should just give up our jobs and stop paying taxes just so we can live free?
wuskul 7 months ago
@wuskul "Why dont you put together a plan of how to run a country and preech that on the streets and who knows maybe get a political party and get elected."
Human nature tells us that this is impossible: 50% will pay attention to what you are saying - 20% of 50% will agree - 20% of 20% of 50% will remember your "political party" - Therefore, you will receive votes from ~2% of the people who heard you speak, or 0.01% of the population if you do it every week from now until election day.
TheSelfGoverned 7 months ago
@TheSelfGoverned
So you are just going to walk around streets with a megaphone thinking you are untouchable for the next however many years it takes you all to grow up?
wuskul 7 months ago
@wuskul How are we not "untouchable?" What does that even mean? Will a stranger punch us in the face for speaking our minds? Will a cop beat us and arrest us for speaking to strangers?
Also, what does it mean to be "grown up?" The more I think about it, the more I think it means: Jaded, insecure, depressed, alone, tired, anxious, defeated. Am I close? I would truly like to know. =)
TheSelfGoverned 7 months ago
The bullhorn was great but the camera work was terrible!
QuantumLeap365 7 months ago
@QuantumLeap365 Very sorry, it's not easy to walk with camera and make sure it's nice all the time..
TriWooOx 7 months ago
@TriWooOx No problem, I'm still very glad you documented this event. All the best to you.
QuantumLeap365 7 months ago
@TriWooOx the dubstep is much more annoying than the cam work, great vid otherwise!
itsaight1 7 months ago
@QuantumLeap365 ; Nah the bull horning was crap n all : )
nolslifegren 7 months ago
What a bunch of dicks, they preech to people saying that children are dying for every pair of trainers that are made, yet clearly they are wearing trainers themselfs LOL
And they preech to people telling them to not pay taxes, where do these people buy there clothes from?
wuskul 7 months ago
@wuskul I perceive it this way: We are in a time where everyone must make changes in their lives, and bit by bit we are trying to find alternative solutions, everyone does what they can in their own way. We all know we can all be hypocrites, we are surrounded and enslaved in this corporate world, but we are trying to free ourselves....are you?
DJTimoshii 7 months ago
@wuskul I've been wearing the same 10 pairs of pants for over 8 years, which I bought at a second hand store.
It isn't whether or not you own clothes(obviously), it is whether or not you own an excessive amount of clothes. Every decision ripples throughout our global society. Many do not understand nor realize this.
TheSelfGoverned 7 months ago
@TheSelfGoverned
Doesnt make a difference if you bought them second hand or brand new you would have still payed tax and VAT on them.
I understand what your saying but who are you to tell people not to have excessive amounts of clothing? Isnt that what your preeching about saying we should all be free and make our own choices?
You drink water out the tap? or buy it in a bottle? Somewhere along the lines your paying towards what you preech against.
wuskul 7 months ago
@wuskul I live in the US, so I don't pay any tax on clothes from the second hand store.
And you get taxed for TAP WATER? Whaaa??? And owning a TV? And pants from a second hand store? And silver bullion?!
I knew it was bad in the UK, but you Brits are in wayyy over your heads! Also, those austerity cuts are only the tip of the iceberg, trust me.
TheSelfGoverned 7 months ago
@TheSelfGoverned The water company will have to pay tax which is obviously added into your water bill just like everything else you pay for.
Walking round with a megaphone wont change anything.
wuskul 7 months ago
@wuskul "Walking round with a megaphone wont change anything."
"Changing your personal consumption habits won't change anything."
"Changing the perceptions/beliefs of those around you won't change anything."
"Refusing to pay taxes won't change anything."
You sure are pessimistic to be sitting around watching activism videos, aren't you? Maybe these brave, caring youth would be doing a better service to the world by sitting around locked up in their homes playing Xbox all day?
TheSelfGoverned 7 months ago
@wuskul Which part of "Marks & Spencer fund Israeli state terrorism (Rothschild Zionism)" don't you understand? Very little to do with the clothes themselves.
DJTimoshii 7 months ago
@DJTimoshii The tax you pay to our government funds a war in iraq. Whats your point?
wuskul 7 months ago
@wuskul You seem to have missed a fundamental point.....Iraq is an ILLEGAL war. Also, I didn't mention Iraq specifically in that post.....I said Israeli state terrorism (Rothschild Zionism). Whats YOUR point?
DJTimoshii 7 months ago
@DJTimoshii
Your tax pays funds an illigal war.
Go get a job and grow up!
wuskul 7 months ago
so not happy i missed this!
physicsgeneration1 7 months ago
awesome
roanbobLoL 7 months ago
Great stuff!
popas7 7 months ago
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@ThugsRaveToo Man up and do it. Get some balls. ....or you could always live in tyranny and fear.
DJTimoshii 7 months ago
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DJTimoshii 7 months ago
23 hates?....what's to hate? ......er.....why is everyone talking to Charlie? I see no Charlie in this video? I see 200+ freedom lovers....
..and I LOVE freedom lovers.
DJTimoshii 7 months ago
@DJTimoshii Good Words!!!
warprod 7 months ago
Thats awesome ! :) niiice
bloodass3 7 months ago
arndale centre bitches
shit got real
lgarvey 7 months ago
watch?v=CjLwlEMLiY8
zammy92 7 months ago
why are people disliking this
refill1234567 7 months ago
@refill1234567 - trolls / government are the only one's that hate PEACE AND LOVE !!! they are trying to infiltrate the love police because they think they can stop an idea that's time has come ? How wrong they are !!
DCHTID247 7 months ago
Dont let this movement die out
blackmesa176 7 months ago
So we will see u in Birmingham Charlie ? hope so,,,, come on you no ya wanna.
okNusku 7 months ago
The Arndale Center. A whorehouse of consumerism.
Indeed to all~~~
doesthismakeanysense 7 months ago
Send Charlie a message! Subscribe to my Channel. Best to all; Danny Shine's friend: The FREE Advice Man.
TheFreeAdviceMan 7 months ago
@TheFreeAdviceMan I will never ask any of you for money! I'd rather make money on the movies I will be producing.
TheFreeAdviceMan 7 months ago
YAY! group hug the police.
WeAreChangeTelford 7 months ago
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sunrise-offgrid - Charlie Veitch: In Service to the Goddess - One Year on the Frontline
Unfortunately Charlie can no longer to make it to Off Grid, due to exepected circumstances. He sends his blessings and wishes us all a great event.
Charlie is indeed keeping a low profile!...
Or maybe he isn't??????
GuardianofDivinity 7 months ago
@GuardianofDivinity Give him a break....he had a bad back....
wacmanchester 7 months ago
nice one tristan =)
cveitch 7 months ago 3
@cveitch - yeah Charlie, you got to come to Birmingham, the people that think you are some sort of insider are mostly from America, and as much as they may disagree im sure 90% of them would not resort to violence , and even the ones that do, can't take on the love police , FUCK THEM !! Other than the POLICE, We are the biggest gang in town > ? And we have love in our hearts !!!
DCHTID247 7 months ago
@DCHTID247 Jesus, at least get a room before you suck him off!
CharlieVeitch911LIAR 7 months ago
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@CharlieVeitch911LIAR - CharlieVeitch911LIAR = KING OF THE TROLLS - I MUST BE DOING WELL !
DCHTID247 7 months ago 2
@cveitch
aww charlie has a happy emote. But I bet silkie is far happier after dumping you
birdshitonmyhead 7 months ago
@cveitch Don't listen to the haters tbh, youtube is full of them, just keep doing what you do :)
kyle1282 7 months ago
terrorist terrorist terrorist ! lmfao ! go back shopping nothing to see and please don't think to loud , the government wont be to happy to know you think and ask question...they have to lie damn !
nice video guys ;) peace !
TheVerbalmilitia 7 months ago