I could care less that they sound the same because I love how they sound!
Each song is just like a new adventure with they same character. You could do this with movies and video games but that doesn't make them less fun to watch or play. <3
I think all genera of music are guilty of overusing techniques that work well. Mozart wrote over 20 different sonata, and in each one except for two i think he modulated to the dominant chord for the development. thats like doing the same thing 20 times!!! and it's mozart! i think it's what happens inbetween the stylistic structure of each genera is what matters, the devil is in the details. maybe the plucked melody has become an underlying structure in trance music. good or bad i don't know...
Couple of the tracks on the list aren't bad at all like Delusion, Caffeine or Cadence. But Robert Nickson disappointed me with his "Maybe Next Time". Thought that Maybe he'll do better Next Time. Get me?
This is a great example what happens, if you make music and listen only to similar other music as a reference. To bring new things to the genre and keep it alive, you need to listen a wide range of other genres as well. Maybe these artists are really underrating their listeners that they don't need anything else.
perhaps that just one of the outcomes to trance since there's a 'guideline' to each genre of music..?
plus, i recall being told how your brain gets 'excited' to certain patterns of notes/beats/etc. so perhaps people who like trance, get 'excited' to these patterns and notes
i personally find these 'similarities' uplifting and relaxing/soothing
@5thStreet2009 No, it is not sampling. Sampling is when you record a piece of someone else's recording. Not when you play your own version of a melody with your own sounds.
You honestly going to tell me that trance music doesn't just copy the same formula over and over? I love a lot of trance by artists like Simon Patterson, John 00 Flemming and Antix, but fact is even amongst these artists the formula is the same for all the music. There is far more creativity and experimentation in drum & bass, house, techno and dubstep than there is in trance. It's a simple fact. Listen to something by dBridge then something by Enei when it comes to drum & bass to demonstrate.
@jorintelis House of all kinds, techno of all kinds, drum & bass, dubstep, experimental music, hip-hop, metal,...loads of stuff. Just not shite generic trance.
I do believe the conclusion is that simple melodies with plucked synths work ? :D
I believe you will be hard pressed to find a genre that dosn't have some sort of "repeating pattern" type, fx dubsteps snare hit on 3, pops repeated use of "4chord melody" house's consistent "four 2 the floor" etc etc ^ ^
In the end the difference is in -your touch- IE, if you can make people forget all these rules and just break loose - you're on the right track ^ ^
It's rather disappointing to hear songs with the same structure and sound to it over and over. It's not limited to just trance either. Trance music has always had a basic structure to it, but ultimately it's how the producer utilizes it' to their advantage. Not to say I can create something any better than the majority of the producers out there. I'd just like to hear more variety, which is a rarity. Pretty much why I'm a picky person when I listen to music lol
There's always good and bad in every musical genre out there. It's inevitable. You you just have to sort through and find the hidden gems within. I think the underlying issue with trance music is that it's naturally repetitive to begin with. Not necessarily a bad thing. It's one of my favorite genres, but it has decayed for me over the years with upfliting trance, for example. I use to be a fan of it 3 years ago. Unfortunately, it's been the same formula since then.
You blend out the millions of other Tracks, which do NOT have this specific pluck. I had a Radio Show today and I do not remember playing one of those songs or one including that pluck. I do own a lot of them, though.
Yes. oh my god. Its not enough that they use the same pattern THEY USE THE SAME HAPPY FUCKIN SCALE WHICH RUINED EVERYTHING TRANCE IS . TRANCE CAN NOT BE HAPPY . IT MUST BE EUPHORIC . WAKE THE FUCK UP PRODUCERS. ADAM NICKEY GO KILL YOURSELF
Trance is a brilliant music, but it is very repeatly because it is hard to invent new style of pluck melodies.. I am know what I am saying, I am creating trance too. But when I am hearing pluck melodies, it's drive me mad : D Especially Adam Nickey / Above & Beyond / Super8 & Tab (All Anjunabeats has got this style of pluck)
@axenon5 The problem is the fact that producers from the past used to concentrate more on the melody rather than trying to make it as loud as possible which is how it is today sadly. Also the breakdown were done correctly no 64 bars long intros.
This is the reason why I went off the uplifting trance sound, it really is just far too generic these days, it really is hard to be original but when you do hear something original and that doesn't follow the same trend those are the true trance gems, although every track in this video is of a high quality this is why so many people say all trance sounds the same, unbelievable just how many tracks do sound the same!
@liquidvmusic The scene has also been flooded with fluffy pop non-sense and electro farts you hardly hear any Melodic trance these days. Like from the past, everyone is trying to copy the commercial electro house producers of today.
You know what I hate more than plucked synths? The saw synth. When implemented correctly, you get a large sound, but these sold out artists like to make it sound bloated, too massive, and cheesier than any cheese ever discovered. I hear it in almost every vocal anthem trance piece. This is the main reason I only listen to classic trance, some prog trance, and psytrance now (in the trance genre that is)
I think the first 5 minutes were similar, after that you just got bored and put any old song in that sounded the same.. I mean.. "Uncross These Lines" sounds NOTHING alike "Collide" or "Ressurection"
yes, many producers sample each other's ideas. But this occurs in EVERY music genre ever invented. People borrow ideas and turn them into their own creations. It is obvious that these producers have influenced one another, but that does NOT mean that the music is "crap". I'm talking to you mostly housemacluvin.
they probably look ALIKE but not the same. it`s like sea and see sound the same but mean something different :). there are so many songs which are alike in the world it is very difficult to create a completely new sound.
@Andyman3k music is something different than cheese, it is about some originality and so on ... and this is honestly quite cheesy (while speaking about cheese :-D)
some of us are just "overeaten" by this kind of "cheese" ;) would you eat let's say one ton of your cheddar every day? no! ;)
yo brother, u have great work, but look, our work it s made by computer,do u think we are gonna sit and watch every single freaking other songs just to try not to copy them ? it s because of the computer and the computer songs, also some rocks songs are similar, maybe they have different instruments and different settings, but it s the same thing, that thing happens also on trance, blame the computer lack of diversity sounds, not of the people!
@K1aptcha ...I Totally agree that a lot of new trance sounds very similar (especially the majority of what's released through anjunabeats), which I dislike. However, if you spend a few minutes looking around I assure you, that you will find decent quality varied Trance. Something like Andy moor - she moves, Gareth Emery - Exposure or Armin - Feels so good (Jochen Miller remix).
hey, i found out another song with similar pluck problem, from 2001!!!
Perpetuous Dreamer - The Sound of Goodbye (Above & Beyond Remix) - even though i really like this remix, it has the same melodic pattern as Amsterdam, Callista, etc.
@K1aptcha you're welcome, oh & BTW could you plz send me part 2 of the plucked melodies? i can't watch it on my country bcz of stupid restrictions from Armada.
hm i don't really get what you don't liek about this but this video made me just buy 20% of al the tracks in this video haha!! They are a bit similar of course but they are more than beautiful and they represent emotions. and that is one of the most beautiful things about melodic trance, it's how feelings sound like :)
This is why I don't pay for songs anymore. I'd much rather listen to a fantastically composed cornandbeans or Dimrain47 or F-777 song on Newgrounds than buy another song that I've practically and might as well have bought before. And yes, I am a darn firm trance advocate.
there really isnt anything new that can be done with dance music that hasnt already been done. if you try to be"original" it ends up being something so esoteric that it doesnt appeal to anyone. whats important is to continue the process by making new releases. also, alot of times when producing music, the sound seems to "command" itself and it ends up being the way it is in most tracks. the plucked synth is awesome and always will be.
@cheddybumpkins I agree with you on the last bit, but I definitely don't with the first. Type in Andrew Bayer - Distractions into the search bar to see what I mean.
@10AlexW01 i think i know what you mean, but what i should have said was "every idea has already been thought of (given a sufficient size of thinking individuals), what matters is putting that idea into action, that's whats new. But there aren't a whole lot of unexplored frontiers in dance music, there just arent. In the post disco era, there was, but after a while...its just a matter of re-inventing the wheel. the effect of dance music will always remain the same.
ah, ah, last track was a joke, i know, but it was very funny, actually i was surprised that Smith & Pledger's Remix of Amsterdam was so unnoriginal, since i really like that track, and Astroline's tune is so cheesy, actually who was the real inventor of this melody? ATB, Astroline, Smith & Pleger? no, seiously, i'm curious to know who started this
This is why old uplifting trance so much more better than these craps. I really don't know why the hell all the people nowadays loves every Aly and Fila, Kandi + almost all artists' tracks on Anjunabeats they always sound the same, so boring. Creative artists like Peter Martijn Wijnia, Spark7 or Andy Blueman are so underrated! I want arpeggios based on creative strings again like in the old days! I miss the late '90 and early '00 years' trance sounds so much!
I have 150 trance songs in my playlist from recent years. I'm pretty sure at least half of them take inspiration from earlier songs. But I don't need to know that. Why? Because I'm still going to love them, whether or not I find out where they originated from. If I do find out where a song takes its inspiration from -- well then I'll have two favourite songs instead of just one.
@Nappateemu if you believe that produce churned out of a factory at the rate of an M-16 every week are "good songs", there is clearly something wrong with you.
OK. There is SOME similarities, but each artist gives it it's own feel and some make it sound better than others! We're in 2010. Music has been played FOREVER! We're at the point where we just don't know what to create or write! How many love songs have been written? Break-ups? In how many ways can you give the same message? Not that many...just enjoy the music and the producer you like the best!!
@YucaTX just enjoy and be blind/deaf? :) no way! :-P anyway I don't feel the different/own feeling that much, sorry, and definitely some sound also worse than others :-D
Yeah it's pretty funny/lame that they all use the same pluck, but that hasn't changed my opinion of it. I still think it's an eargasmic sound pattern, no need to change that :P
@0173873 Using computer you can create like 9999x more sounds than using a rock band "set" (guitar, percussion etc). So it shouldn't be compared. And if you can create a lot of different sounds - THEN WHY THE HELL ABOUT 50 TRACKS USE THE SAME PLUCK?
Well, we should see where it was hard being original... Anjunabeats had the biggest trouble... However some of the releases mentioned in this video, do not deserve to be there. A lot of them have different feels.
It's funny how tone deaf trance people are to notice this. They spend money on these tracks. Same thing as Daniel Kandi tracks, all the same generic crap.
@housemacluvin The so called 'Trance People' are not all tone deaf. We appreciate a god tune, and criticize and ridicule the copycats. Just because the base of all songs are beats, it just doesn't mean they are the same.
@housemacluvin not ALL trance is like this I can assure you mate. BUt it's also in house music as well you hear a lot of deadmau5 copy & pasted stuff as well.
@housemacluvin ... A lot of new trance sounds the same granted, but on the same token, a LOT of it doesn't... Don't pigeonhole a whole genre and its listeners!
oh and yeah... trance generally can create any type or feeling in you, that's why it's the most poverful edm genre at all.... Hot, cold, fast, slow, lovely, powerful, can make you feel happy, or feel sad, or anything... it simply can take you into any mood you wish...but house... not that i blame house and other genres, but house can give you one feeling only: Partying. Anyway, that's just my opinion.. You know, i always used to say discussing about taste is nosense :)
you could do the same for every edm genre... electro, house, dance, hands up, ANY genre....every genre has so much similar tracks...Trance is still the best for me though... Trance ISN'T JUST A GENRE for us, trance lovers... it's a way of living, a religion....we used and learned to live with trance, so real trance lovers can't left it ever
Who cares if the songs have similar elements as long as the music is great?? The point of music is to put you in a certain state.
Every genre has its similarities. Listen to music from the baroque era and you will find the same patterns. Same goes for black metal, rock, pop, punk rock etc. etc.
There are even similarities between the mentioned genres. That is because we have the same western/european harmonies, chords and melody structures, which dates back to Bach and his fellow geniouses.
Im not sure if you have it but does this Classic count? Im upset I'm grassing it up lol - Cosmic Gate Ft. Jan Johnston - I Feel Wonderfull (But then again it might of been the Original Melody ahaha)
Trance is not in a great place right now. It needs a rebirth. Too much crap is being churned out. You can thank shit labels like Anjunabeats run by the highly over rated Above & Beyond.
If somebody really would take time to make really Unique (music) then that won't be in the same genre, it would make a completely new, another genre! ;)
@Tenshionnanoko128 the video is not about style, but about the melody - it can be used in almost every style you can think about... and even one eurodance track is there ;-)
I think there are 3 ways to copy a track: use same chords, same pads or copy whole samples. This video shows the pads copying which for me is allowed in every music. Of course, it sounds sad compiled next to each other, and it's on time to blame trance for similarity but i separately like lots of tunes in this video and i think I can enjoy every of this track on their unique fell.
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its embarrasing, thanks god i take no part in this once respected trance scene, its become a joke. you must fucking cluless if you aplaud this talentless shite.
So that's why most trance tracks from the last years sound so boring, because of the similar pluck synth, what a rip-off.
I haven't been conscious of the pluck being similar, but most new tracks with this kind of pluck i shoved aside for being to boring and uninteresting, because my unconscious already heard similar plucks and wanted something new, fresh and exciting, not dull repetition.
Wow I seriously can't believe how many there are. and a lot of them are anjunabeats too... hmm maybe they have a rule about releasing tracks on their label: gotta have that plucked synth!
anyway this is kinda sad. I still love trance but there definitely needs to be more variety
@mertcanization he used it before - in Slider for example - and still the very similar melody appeared in tracks that were made before Slider - like Famicom, Amsterdam, Nightwatch (look at the dates of releases) - so yes, he actually stole it or was inspired
OceanLab - Beautiful Together (Nitrous Oxide Remix) is also quite similar. Interesting list of tracks, but I don't think any of this is intended. Just a popular, emotional melody.
As FastDistance said, we always can find similar melodies in all of tracks or even in a genre at all. This is what makes the difference genre from genre. The originality remains when someone produces something never heard before or just find a perfect harmony in the sinergy of the music. This is what makes the music really choon for great ears. Eh, I love Progressive House and I listen a lot of similar sounds even in the great songs, but the magic of each makes that special and awesomeness.
i think that ReOrder and Dave Deen still uses the same pattern :) just heard one of new relases of those "artists" and still same pattern :) unbelivable :)
It's not the whole trance melody, but the pluck. The actual synths, pianos and pads are all different. Having said that it is an interesting observation.
This can be said for any style of music though, as there are not actually that many combinations that are aesthetically pleasing to the ear.
it goes to show that all these labels and artists follow what sells..
the labels have to make money, and the producers want to make money aswell. so why not make tunes that follow "whats hot" and sells. we all like making money :)
I could care less that they sound the same because I love how they sound!
Each song is just like a new adventure with they same character. You could do this with movies and video games but that doesn't make them less fun to watch or play. <3
a3leggedpuppy 3 weeks ago
None of them are bad, just unoriginal.
SysLocal 3 weeks ago
I wish melodies were still like this
remedi123 1 month ago
I think all genera of music are guilty of overusing techniques that work well. Mozart wrote over 20 different sonata, and in each one except for two i think he modulated to the dominant chord for the development. thats like doing the same thing 20 times!!! and it's mozart! i think it's what happens inbetween the stylistic structure of each genera is what matters, the devil is in the details. maybe the plucked melody has become an underlying structure in trance music. good or bad i don't know...
St4rW01f 2 months ago 2
No not Luminary :'(
festek 2 months ago
@festek NOT CAFFEINE :(
Deadlyvom 4 weeks ago
@Deadlyvom depressing video is depressing.
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festek 2 months ago
9:30 WTF!
algunwey01 2 months ago 2
QQ MORE NOOB
snoopcho 2 months ago
That last song was epic.. hahahaha, oh god..
Xynth0 2 months ago
Couple of the tracks on the list aren't bad at all like Delusion, Caffeine or Cadence. But Robert Nickson disappointed me with his "Maybe Next Time". Thought that Maybe he'll do better Next Time. Get me?
Xynth0 2 months ago
trance is for pussies
cuntybuggery 2 months ago
This is a great example what happens, if you make music and listen only to similar other music as a reference. To bring new things to the genre and keep it alive, you need to listen a wide range of other genres as well. Maybe these artists are really underrating their listeners that they don't need anything else.
myrskyv78 2 months ago 2
Haha. Brilliant video. Guess this is why I only listen trance from the 90s.
kb1629 2 months ago
but u must admit 7 skies caffeine makes it sound awesome
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And the winner is: the last track! I never laughed harder in my life after hearing that.
TehVorLoN 3 months ago
cookie cutter shit all the way
sidechain0 5 months ago
The melodies are really equal.
But each has its unique touch, which makes it not a copy.
Every one that heard, had a touch better than the previous epic.
That's electronic music, can have the same melody, but always be able to make it unique.
treyn10 5 months ago 4
i agree w/ alot of similarity imo
but imo, and this is just my personal opinion,
'music' esp in a genre has consistencies...
perhaps that just one of the outcomes to trance since there's a 'guideline' to each genre of music..?
plus, i recall being told how your brain gets 'excited' to certain patterns of notes/beats/etc. so perhaps people who like trance, get 'excited' to these patterns and notes
i personally find these 'similarities' uplifting and relaxing/soothing
just thinking on the spot lol
diudng 5 months ago
its called SAMPLING !
5thStreet2009 5 months ago
@5thStreet2009 No, it is not sampling. Sampling is when you record a piece of someone else's recording. Not when you play your own version of a melody with your own sounds.
ToniKoo 2 months ago
vocals on last track lol
gsxrr7 6 months ago
The last track's vocals destroyed my ears.
Just awful.
StefanTetteroo 6 months ago
Mark Andrez & Den Rise - Flames is an awesome track!!! :D
Zenkka 6 months ago
i really get fucking frustrate listen this!! the same in all tracks!! wtffff
omarrogu 7 months ago
Those plucks that everyone loves! Amplifies the emotion in the track.
I got nothing against this the longest it's not what the main melody is based upon.
About every trance artist has and will do this.
Nexcet 7 months ago
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Okay less listen to the similarity in fucking rap, or rock, or any other genre.. Go listen to the 50's half the songs all sound the same.
ph4ze1337 7 months ago
Okay less listen to the similarity in fucking rap, or rock, or any other genre.. Go listen to the 50's half the songs all sound the same.
ph4ze1337 7 months ago
Still I like more these unoriginal than that ugly branch of trance which uses saw-waves, techno beats, distorted voice.
pekarna 7 months ago
You honestly going to tell me that trance music doesn't just copy the same formula over and over? I love a lot of trance by artists like Simon Patterson, John 00 Flemming and Antix, but fact is even amongst these artists the formula is the same for all the music. There is far more creativity and experimentation in drum & bass, house, techno and dubstep than there is in trance. It's a simple fact. Listen to something by dBridge then something by Enei when it comes to drum & bass to demonstrate.
andrewwowk 7 months ago
@jorintelis House of all kinds, techno of all kinds, drum & bass, dubstep, experimental music, hip-hop, metal,...loads of stuff. Just not shite generic trance.
andrewwowk 7 months ago
If people hate trance so much, why do you watch this video clip?
Snuberboom913 7 months ago
Searh 4 chord song by Axis of Aweosme.
nonikita 7 months ago
If you want a hit, u rip it \o/
Vimenze 7 months ago
I do believe the conclusion is that simple melodies with plucked synths work ? :D
I believe you will be hard pressed to find a genre that dosn't have some sort of "repeating pattern" type, fx dubsteps snare hit on 3, pops repeated use of "4chord melody" house's consistent "four 2 the floor" etc etc ^ ^
In the end the difference is in -your touch- IE, if you can make people forget all these rules and just break loose - you're on the right track ^ ^
Vc3n7 7 months ago
can't believe you wasted your time making this video. Sorry.
unr1 7 months ago
It's rather disappointing to hear songs with the same structure and sound to it over and over. It's not limited to just trance either. Trance music has always had a basic structure to it, but ultimately it's how the producer utilizes it' to their advantage. Not to say I can create something any better than the majority of the producers out there. I'd just like to hear more variety, which is a rarity. Pretty much why I'm a picky person when I listen to music lol
NeiGhborHooDSnip3r 7 months ago
There's always good and bad in every musical genre out there. It's inevitable. You you just have to sort through and find the hidden gems within. I think the underlying issue with trance music is that it's naturally repetitive to begin with. Not necessarily a bad thing. It's one of my favorite genres, but it has decayed for me over the years with upfliting trance, for example. I use to be a fan of it 3 years ago. Unfortunately, it's been the same formula since then.
NeiGhborHooDSnip3r 7 months ago
You blend out the millions of other Tracks, which do NOT have this specific pluck. I had a Radio Show today and I do not remember playing one of those songs or one including that pluck. I do own a lot of them, though.
Faiadenza 7 months ago
this is rules :)
LantoAnjuna 7 months ago
And you know what they also all have in common...
They're amazing songs. >:D
PityMuzic 7 months ago
After watching this video first, I was very sad for the future Trance music !
LantoAnjuna 7 months ago
Anjunabeats thank you for destroying a perfectly good genre.
ElluzeoniX 9 months ago
Yes. oh my god. Its not enough that they use the same pattern THEY USE THE SAME HAPPY FUCKIN SCALE WHICH RUINED EVERYTHING TRANCE IS . TRANCE CAN NOT BE HAPPY . IT MUST BE EUPHORIC . WAKE THE FUCK UP PRODUCERS. ADAM NICKEY GO KILL YOURSELF
ElluzeoniX 9 months ago
Trance is a brilliant music, but it is very repeatly because it is hard to invent new style of pluck melodies.. I am know what I am saying, I am creating trance too. But when I am hearing pluck melodies, it's drive me mad : D Especially Adam Nickey / Above & Beyond / Super8 & Tab (All Anjunabeats has got this style of pluck)
axenon5 9 months ago
@axenon5 The problem is the fact that producers from the past used to concentrate more on the melody rather than trying to make it as loud as possible which is how it is today sadly. Also the breakdown were done correctly no 64 bars long intros.
Progrez121 8 months ago
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Trance sucks...who will care about melodic similarities if one is drugged to infinity?
Sphereal 9 months ago
@Sphereal people on drugs suck...
K1aptcha 9 months ago 23
@Sphereal go take ur drugs now bro!! cuz u have no fuckin idea what trance is...
El23edvin 7 months ago
This is the reason why I went off the uplifting trance sound, it really is just far too generic these days, it really is hard to be original but when you do hear something original and that doesn't follow the same trend those are the true trance gems, although every track in this video is of a high quality this is why so many people say all trance sounds the same, unbelievable just how many tracks do sound the same!
liquidvmusic 9 months ago
@liquidvmusic The scene has also been flooded with fluffy pop non-sense and electro farts you hardly hear any Melodic trance these days. Like from the past, everyone is trying to copy the commercial electro house producers of today.
Progrez121 8 months ago
I loved every song in this video :D
0liverwarren 10 months ago
You know what I hate more than plucked synths? The saw synth. When implemented correctly, you get a large sound, but these sold out artists like to make it sound bloated, too massive, and cheesier than any cheese ever discovered. I hear it in almost every vocal anthem trance piece. This is the main reason I only listen to classic trance, some prog trance, and psytrance now (in the trance genre that is)
canadia7x 10 months ago
music made to "sound good" makes your music popular. skill and innovation thrown out the window. so sad :[
Yaoboi 10 months ago
Trance is dead, Tiesto is alive
arroganzarework 10 months ago
1 2 1 2 123 1 2 1 2 123
Thats the pattern, its really easy to do variations of it, but they dont even change the notes :/
vazkopl 10 months ago
and they are all gorgeous
xxCrayze11xx 10 months ago
I think the first 5 minutes were similar, after that you just got bored and put any old song in that sounded the same.. I mean.. "Uncross These Lines" sounds NOTHING alike "Collide" or "Ressurection"
DasLoosers 11 months ago
yes, many producers sample each other's ideas. But this occurs in EVERY music genre ever invented. People borrow ideas and turn them into their own creations. It is obvious that these producers have influenced one another, but that does NOT mean that the music is "crap". I'm talking to you mostly housemacluvin.
jebsax2006 11 months ago
they probably look ALIKE but not the same. it`s like sea and see sound the same but mean something different :). there are so many songs which are alike in the world it is very difficult to create a completely new sound.
ozbunt 11 months ago
trance is literally the call of duty of music genres
Viratic 1 year ago
..."ANJUNA PLUGIN" :D
antigaruda 1 year ago
Sure they're the same, but I don't see a problem. If you love cheddar cheese why would you wanna switch to swiss or gouda or american?:P
Andyman3k 1 year ago 6
@Andyman3k music is something different than cheese, it is about some originality and so on ... and this is honestly quite cheesy (while speaking about cheese :-D)
some of us are just "overeaten" by this kind of "cheese" ;) would you eat let's say one ton of your cheddar every day? no! ;)
K1aptcha 1 year ago 4
@K1aptcha Yeah hahah you would get consitpated real quick. (It IS cheesy and that's why i wanted to make that comment :P)
I can does them too! Only took 2 hours XD
soundcloud/user2409554/unoriginal-trace-break
Andyman3k 1 year ago
@K1aptcha Id eat a ton of Cheddar every other day if it wasn't so fattening :D
Vc3n7 7 months ago
@K1aptcha
yo brother, u have great work, but look, our work it s made by computer,do u think we are gonna sit and watch every single freaking other songs just to try not to copy them ? it s because of the computer and the computer songs, also some rocks songs are similar, maybe they have different instruments and different settings, but it s the same thing, that thing happens also on trance, blame the computer lack of diversity sounds, not of the people!
xxXsTreamxx 7 months ago
@K1aptcha ...I Totally agree that a lot of new trance sounds very similar (especially the majority of what's released through anjunabeats), which I dislike. However, if you spend a few minutes looking around I assure you, that you will find decent quality varied Trance. Something like Andy moor - she moves, Gareth Emery - Exposure or Armin - Feels so good (Jochen Miller remix).
J1M1F 6 months ago
@J1M1F definitely there is varied, diversed trance, I say nothing against it :) Just wanted to show this plucked problem to the trance audience.
K1aptcha 6 months ago
@Andyman3k Thing is, I happen to, well.. I sort of like choir music combined with trance uhh.. everytime I go to buy some cheese, they're out of it.
Xynth0 2 months ago
hey, i found out another song with similar pluck problem, from 2001!!!
Perpetuous Dreamer - The Sound of Goodbye (Above & Beyond Remix) - even though i really like this remix, it has the same melodic pattern as Amsterdam, Callista, etc.
Neptune22h 1 year ago
@Neptune22h big find, thank you... quite forgotten remix i think...
K1aptcha 1 year ago
@K1aptcha you're welcome, oh & BTW could you plz send me part 2 of the plucked melodies? i can't watch it on my country bcz of stupid restrictions from Armada.
Neptune22h 1 year ago
@K1aptcha oh and are you going to make part 4?
Neptune22h 1 year ago
@Neptune22h not soon, but will make... I have 4 or 5 "new" tracks so far... not much
K1aptcha 1 year ago
hey, could you add at the end of the video, The Legacy by Push, i think we already know who started this.
MrSaurun2011 1 year ago
Tell me that the last track is a joke? The singer can´t sing. haha!
Denesfay 1 year ago
hm i don't really get what you don't liek about this but this video made me just buy 20% of al the tracks in this video haha!! They are a bit similar of course but they are more than beautiful and they represent emotions. and that is one of the most beautiful things about melodic trance, it's how feelings sound like :)
CedricKrys 1 year ago
@CedricKrys Haha same here!
DJVulpus 1 year ago
i think it's normal, the number of chords is limited
irciol 1 year ago
Same progression, different keys.
festek 1 year ago
I did notice this melody before, actually "Take Me Where I Wanna Go" by armin and "Luminiscence" by Josh Gallahan, both songs have it too.
anotherpicture 1 year ago
This is why I don't pay for songs anymore. I'd much rather listen to a fantastically composed cornandbeans or Dimrain47 or F-777 song on Newgrounds than buy another song that I've practically and might as well have bought before. And yes, I am a darn firm trance advocate.
TheSilta 1 year ago 2
there really isnt anything new that can be done with dance music that hasnt already been done. if you try to be"original" it ends up being something so esoteric that it doesnt appeal to anyone. whats important is to continue the process by making new releases. also, alot of times when producing music, the sound seems to "command" itself and it ends up being the way it is in most tracks. the plucked synth is awesome and always will be.
cheddybumpkins 1 year ago
@cheddybumpkins I agree with you on the last bit, but I definitely don't with the first. Type in Andrew Bayer - Distractions into the search bar to see what I mean.
10AlexW01 1 year ago
@10AlexW01 i think i know what you mean, but what i should have said was "every idea has already been thought of (given a sufficient size of thinking individuals), what matters is putting that idea into action, that's whats new. But there aren't a whole lot of unexplored frontiers in dance music, there just arent. In the post disco era, there was, but after a while...its just a matter of re-inventing the wheel. the effect of dance music will always remain the same.
cheddybumpkins 1 year ago
and this is similar too SoundLift - Empty Night Street (Daniel Kandi Remix)
xTheNewWorld 1 year ago
WHO GIVES A SHIT ITS GOOD
georgegoesshikari 1 year ago
@georgegoesshikari it's not good, that's the point
Duplex0r 1 year ago
This music is the direct result of watching too much Teletubbies as children. Pass me the barf-bag.
AlbeeSquareMall 1 year ago
ah, ah, last track was a joke, i know, but it was very funny, actually i was surprised that Smith & Pledger's Remix of Amsterdam was so unnoriginal, since i really like that track, and Astroline's tune is so cheesy, actually who was the real inventor of this melody? ATB, Astroline, Smith & Pleger? no, seiously, i'm curious to know who started this
Neptune22h 1 year ago
@Neptune22h I think it was Push - The Legacy from back in 2000.
10AlexW01 1 year ago
@10AlexW01 yeah, the melody is very similar, too.
MrSaurun2011 1 year ago
This is why old uplifting trance so much more better than these craps. I really don't know why the hell all the people nowadays loves every Aly and Fila, Kandi + almost all artists' tracks on Anjunabeats they always sound the same, so boring. Creative artists like Peter Martijn Wijnia, Spark7 or Andy Blueman are so underrated! I want arpeggios based on creative strings again like in the old days! I miss the late '90 and early '00 years' trance sounds so much!
FaeRhanMusic 1 year ago 2
I have 150 trance songs in my playlist from recent years. I'm pretty sure at least half of them take inspiration from earlier songs. But I don't need to know that. Why? Because I'm still going to love them, whether or not I find out where they originated from. If I do find out where a song takes its inspiration from -- well then I'll have two favourite songs instead of just one.
hiperbolha 1 year ago
anjunabeats has the same artists roster from the 2005 that produce the same things from the 2005...
4everXproject 1 year ago
most of them are good songs so who cares
Nappateemu 1 year ago 25
@Nappateemu you don't, we do :-P
K1aptcha 1 year ago
@Nappateemu if you believe that produce churned out of a factory at the rate of an M-16 every week are "good songs", there is clearly something wrong with you.
deviant2k 1 year ago
OK. There is SOME similarities, but each artist gives it it's own feel and some make it sound better than others! We're in 2010. Music has been played FOREVER! We're at the point where we just don't know what to create or write! How many love songs have been written? Break-ups? In how many ways can you give the same message? Not that many...just enjoy the music and the producer you like the best!!
YucaTX 1 year ago
@YucaTX just enjoy and be blind/deaf? :) no way! :-P anyway I don't feel the different/own feeling that much, sorry, and definitely some sound also worse than others :-D
K1aptcha 1 year ago
Yeah it's pretty funny/lame that they all use the same pluck, but that hasn't changed my opinion of it. I still think it's an eargasmic sound pattern, no need to change that :P
Andyman3k 1 year ago
Too funny yet so true. 14 people haven't cleaned the cheese out of their ears for 4 years.
deviant2k 1 year ago
Holy shit! Sky0cean is Daniel Kandi? LOL. I should have guessed that before hand... Damn, Daniel is funny :D
krisu0100 1 year ago
I don't really care about similarity, it's the atmosphere that makes the good track.
krisu0100 1 year ago
I like every one of these songs!
felixleprechaun 1 year ago
great video, thank you man
Ricky7ACM 1 year ago
I don't see anyone complaining about the constant use of guitars in rock and roll, alternative and indie music.
0173873 1 year ago 3
@0173873 Using computer you can create like 9999x more sounds than using a rock band "set" (guitar, percussion etc). So it shouldn't be compared. And if you can create a lot of different sounds - THEN WHY THE HELL ABOUT 50 TRACKS USE THE SAME PLUCK?
magicsoundoftrance 1 year ago 2
Well, we should see where it was hard being original... Anjunabeats had the biggest trouble... However some of the releases mentioned in this video, do not deserve to be there. A lot of them have different feels.
djdurrani 1 year ago
@djdurrani different feels, but still they sound like a remix of one another
K1aptcha 1 year ago
It's funny how tone deaf trance people are to notice this. They spend money on these tracks. Same thing as Daniel Kandi tracks, all the same generic crap.
housemacluvin 1 year ago 20
@housemacluvin the term "tone deaf" means something entirely different than what you are reffering to.
jebsax2006 11 months ago
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@housemacluvin the term "tone deaf" means something entirely different than what you are referring to.
jebsax2006 11 months ago
@housemacluvin The so called 'Trance People' are not all tone deaf. We appreciate a god tune, and criticize and ridicule the copycats. Just because the base of all songs are beats, it just doesn't mean they are the same.
girish123a 11 months ago
@housemacluvin not ALL trance is like this I can assure you mate. BUt it's also in house music as well you hear a lot of deadmau5 copy & pasted stuff as well.
ascot121 10 months ago
@housemacluvin u call Daniel Kandi's tracks crap??? wow...are u deaf or something?
El23edvin 7 months ago
@housemacluvin EXACTLY. Daniel Kandi and Above & Beyond officially destroyed trance by making it 138 BPM pop with a beat.
ElluzeoniX 7 months ago
@housemacluvin ... A lot of new trance sounds the same granted, but on the same token, a LOT of it doesn't... Don't pigeonhole a whole genre and its listeners!
J1M1F 6 months ago
@J1M1F yeah the thing is to know where to look, but sometimes it gets so fucking hard to find a good tune that some people give up.
xalesd2 5 months ago
hehe
add "ReOrder - Sunrise (Original Mix)
serhiy06 1 year ago
@serhiy06 and ReOrder (again!) - Citybeats
CVicccen 1 year ago
@CVicccen hehehe
serhiy06 1 year ago
oh and yeah... trance generally can create any type or feeling in you, that's why it's the most poverful edm genre at all.... Hot, cold, fast, slow, lovely, powerful, can make you feel happy, or feel sad, or anything... it simply can take you into any mood you wish...but house... not that i blame house and other genres, but house can give you one feeling only: Partying. Anyway, that's just my opinion.. You know, i always used to say discussing about taste is nosense :)
wexbroadcast 1 year ago
you could do the same for every edm genre... electro, house, dance, hands up, ANY genre....every genre has so much similar tracks...Trance is still the best for me though... Trance ISN'T JUST A GENRE for us, trance lovers... it's a way of living, a religion....we used and learned to live with trance, so real trance lovers can't left it ever
wexbroadcast 1 year ago
Who cares if the songs have similar elements as long as the music is great?? The point of music is to put you in a certain state.
Every genre has its similarities. Listen to music from the baroque era and you will find the same patterns. Same goes for black metal, rock, pop, punk rock etc. etc.
There are even similarities between the mentioned genres. That is because we have the same western/european harmonies, chords and melody structures, which dates back to Bach and his fellow geniouses.
vintersavn 1 year ago
Im not sure if you have it but does this Classic count? Im upset I'm grassing it up lol - Cosmic Gate Ft. Jan Johnston - I Feel Wonderfull (But then again it might of been the Original Melody ahaha)
DARKZDYLEZ 1 year ago
holy shit fuck anjunabeats
valleyoftrance 1 year ago
sorry guys trance is dead
armandatrance 1 year ago
@armandatrance That's not what the polls are saying
djtolman 1 year ago
@djtolman what polls?
Neptune22h 1 year ago
Slider maybe got the same melody technique but the mood is beautiful and not copy-able! And there is a lot of tracks to add..
GregorioStyreco 1 year ago
Trance is not in a great place right now. It needs a rebirth. Too much crap is being churned out. You can thank shit labels like Anjunabeats run by the highly over rated Above & Beyond.
Zenon2006 1 year ago
мда грустно как-то
AntonAstera 1 year ago
@AntonAstera Еще как
rutranceman 1 year ago
Also add (if its not added already)
Oliver Smith - Cadence
&
SoundLift - Empty Night Street (Daniel Kandi Remix)
Daniel's song will be released in November :)
9ballnr1 1 year ago
Adam Nickey Altara also sound like the same melody
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DJCosmicRift 1 year ago
Anjunabeats and Enhanced are the leaders in this.
TranceElevation 1 year ago
add Angel Ace - Taking Off Again (Colonial One Remix) to the list :/
FuckTheMilitary 1 year ago
@FuckTheMilitary yeah, already working on "Similarity of plucked melodies in trance music vol. 2" with 9 new/forgotten tracks :-D
K1aptcha 1 year ago
lol
thenextlevel123 1 year ago
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Thumbs up if you are sick of the cookie cutter aids and electro house being passed off for Trance these days
eTranscendence 1 year ago
If somebody really would take time to make really Unique (music) then that won't be in the same genre, it would make a completely new, another genre! ;)
Creating unique tracks are not always easy
Tenshionnanoko128 1 year ago
And what about Eurodance and the other electronic music styles?
Electronic music styles have some common features, you know.... ;) (Space music is almost the same as Ambient I can't tell the difference!)
Tenshionnanoko128 1 year ago
@Tenshionnanoko128 the video is not about style, but about the melody - it can be used in almost every style you can think about... and even one eurodance track is there ;-)
K1aptcha 1 year ago
@K1aptcha
;)
Tenshionnanoko128 1 year ago
I think there are 3 ways to copy a track: use same chords, same pads or copy whole samples. This video shows the pads copying which for me is allowed in every music. Of course, it sounds sad compiled next to each other, and it's on time to blame trance for similarity but i separately like lots of tunes in this video and i think I can enjoy every of this track on their unique fell.
Przemix88 1 year ago
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its embarrasing, thanks god i take no part in this once respected trance scene, its become a joke. you must fucking cluless if you aplaud this talentless shite.
lacock4545 1 year ago
So that's why most trance tracks from the last years sound so boring, because of the similar pluck synth, what a rip-off.
I haven't been conscious of the pluck being similar, but most new tracks with this kind of pluck i shoved aside for being to boring and uninteresting, because my unconscious already heard similar plucks and wanted something new, fresh and exciting, not dull repetition.
Barachem 1 year ago
whooooo carrrrres all great music yaaa!!!
dan187147 1 year ago
@dan187147 Most of the people here DOES care.
K1aptcha 1 year ago 8
@dan187147 please don't be a bubble head lol
krugerm1 1 year ago
That's sad... ;/
Peeyo1986 1 year ago
omg... It's great!
but I'm steamed on Armin, Tiesto, Ferry & others that they kill's the beautyful trance music and create a commercial shit!
djzombek 1 year ago
Some of these riffs have featured in this music for over 20 years, course often now more at the forefront with other riffs following.
simon9191 1 year ago
Wow I seriously can't believe how many there are. and a lot of them are anjunabeats too... hmm maybe they have a rule about releasing tracks on their label: gotta have that plucked synth!
anyway this is kinda sad. I still love trance but there definitely needs to be more variety
kgbforce 1 year ago 2
thıs melody like adam nickey altara ??????? adam nickey stole this melody ????? i dont understanddd
mertcanization 1 year ago
@mertcanization he used it before - in Slider for example - and still the very similar melody appeared in tracks that were made before Slider - like Famicom, Amsterdam, Nightwatch (look at the dates of releases) - so yes, he actually stole it or was inspired
K1aptcha 1 year ago
они просто юзают все один сборник миди)
PhillipoBlake 1 year ago
This is almost too good to be true
AviGoldberger 1 year ago
OceanLab - Beautiful Together (Nitrous Oxide Remix) is also quite similar. Interesting list of tracks, but I don't think any of this is intended. Just a popular, emotional melody.
Javariko 1 year ago
As FastDistance said, we always can find similar melodies in all of tracks or even in a genre at all. This is what makes the difference genre from genre. The originality remains when someone produces something never heard before or just find a perfect harmony in the sinergy of the music. This is what makes the music really choon for great ears. Eh, I love Progressive House and I listen a lot of similar sounds even in the great songs, but the magic of each makes that special and awesomeness.
ExclusiveGoodMusic 1 year ago 2
i think that ReOrder and Dave Deen still uses the same pattern :) just heard one of new relases of those "artists" and still same pattern :) unbelivable :)
darrenmorfitt 1 year ago
What is the actual note sequence of the melody?
Anjunaheaven 1 year ago
you forgot two others...new zealand and grand canyon by digital crusader. haha sorry everyone, didnt know that this type of melody was soo popular
TheDigitalCrusader 1 year ago
It's not the whole trance melody, but the pluck. The actual synths, pianos and pads are all different. Having said that it is an interesting observation.
This can be said for any style of music though, as there are not actually that many combinations that are aesthetically pleasing to the ear.
djscottysunday 1 year ago
it goes to show that all these labels and artists follow what sells..
the labels have to make money, and the producers want to make money aswell. so why not make tunes that follow "whats hot" and sells. we all like making money :)
DataHeadify 1 year ago