Toscanini the best director, ever!!!! Number one, brilliant, precise, powerful, at 85 years old, shows the great performance, and power, brilliance, energetic, !!!!TERRIFIC!!!!!
An example to show the younge generations that the old men are very very valuable, they have the experience, and wisdom, The best!!!!
Toscanini the best director, ever!!!! Number one, brilliant, precise, powerful, at 85 years old, shows the great performance, and power, brilliance, energetic, !!!!TERRIFIC!!!!!
An example to show the younge generations that the old men are very very valuable, they have the experience, and wisdom, The best!!!!
@N2peopleskills ...and still while I listen with my eyes closed I can't stop seeing that bunch of kids flying them bicycles in front of the moon. I had to check. Williams score is different. Still.
Прослушанный отрывок, сложно охарактеризовать, из-за многоплановости в изложении тем, и в этом весь Бетховен. Торжественное произведение, революционное повествование, окрашенное трагическим сопровождением. Светлая тема, тут же через минуту прерывается, как бы барабанным набатом ударных инструментов, предупреждая нас, о тех бедах и несчастьях, которые несут с собой любая революция или военные действия
I was smiling the whole time today when I saw the Toronto Symphony Orchestra perform this today! I was with some music classes from my school. This movement is amazing! Or should I say all of them are! :')
I am glad to hear classical segments in our movies. Its the only exposure our children get. I remember the school used to take the 6th graders to hear a symphony. They stopped doing that when I got to the 6th grade. I guess the parents thought it would distroy their children. Drugs took over our schools instead I guess they are Happy now.
Please why do you bring Paul up on this historic piece.This is Music not Dallas,Butte, Cinncinnati,or Pheonix Such ahole cities.I* truly am tired of our gun slinger ,fat bellied,over medicated American Shitheads!Give us Music Like Ludwic foreever.Take your Nascar Ron crap an jump off a Salt Lake highrise!,You are OBESE!!
You can see the 85 year old Maestro is barely getting through this; he's already quite wiped into the first two minutes of this; the poor old guy had to finish it virtually on guts and out of pride; I don't blame him.
I played this at BLFAC this year with Masterworks as the second trumpet player, and this is the BEST movement in the whole symphony. I love this symphony and this is a great recording!!!
Why is it that there's no great conductors anymore? It seems that they are all copying Karajan. I'm no expert on classical music, but that's the impression I get.
the little musical segment starting around 1:14 was definitely used in a pretty famous movie score, but for some reason I can't pinpoint it. John Williams or Alan Silvestri most likely. Anyone know? It's so close to the same it's like hearing a wilhelm scream out of nowhere
Awesomely beautiful, & in my opinion & that of close friends, Beethoven alone & uniquely is the truly best of Composers, the brilliant genius of all times!!...This & the 1st mvt of Symphony no. 5 are on my top list of classical music...Maestro Arturo Toscanini & his musicians r amazingly awesome!! Bravo!!
I love watching this man conduct. No flash or showmanship. The right hand controls the tempo, and the left coaxes the subtleties and nuances he wants from his musicians.
i personally love the whole symphony but the first and 4th movements are def my two favorites. the first get me pumped up where as the 4th makes me feel uplifted and happy. the 5th symphony is definitely my favorite classical piece along with mozart's requiem and bach's toccata en fugue
have lost the entry on 7:03 ? Don't be hard with yourself toscanini, anyway you are a great men and one of greatest performers, must have suffered much with the sweat in his eyes the whole time.
have lost the entry on 7:03 ? Don't be hard with yourself toscanini, anyway you are a great men and one of greatest performers, must have suffered much with the sweat in his eyes the whole time.
have lost the entry on 7:03 ? Don't be hard with yourself toscanini, anyway you are a great men and one of greatest performers, must have suffered much with the sweat in his eyes the whole time.
have lost the entry on 7:03 ? Don't be hard with yourself toscanini, anyway you are a great men and one of greatest performers, must have suffered much with the sweat in his eyes the whole time.
Amazing, this was on network TV back in the day. I wonder what kind of an audience share they got then. Nowadays, you'd have to spice the thing up with a few murders and a vampire queen dripping blood to get people to watch.
Resolution always settles the soul, and the melodies heard previously all resolve in this fourth movement. Could you call this mvt the kingdom of the major chord, even more than most? Plus, it is brass-heavy, a welcome change from the string dominance earlier, as well as fast and loud, the American listener's fave qualities! Ha
Beethoven was the only composer who went from the Third movement of a symphony directly into the Fourth movement without a break. You gotta love this man's willingness to break with convention.
@SteveAndrewLangford You haven't seen the score? In that case, there is a repeat in the score at about 2:27. Bernstein doesn't miss it, which is good. Unfortunately, his performances of the work don't compare to Toscanini or Karajan otherwise.
@sstuddert I haven't. I'm weird like that. This symphony is so beautiful, and when I see the score, I know I will never get to see it 'like-new' again. Good to know. Thanks man.
@sstuddert From what I[ve heard from some conductors, it isn't that he missed it; it's that he chose not to do it. Sorry as that seems, a conductor has the right to intrerpret, leave out, add extra, or whatever he/she sees fit. It makes for some interesting listening, though, and everyone has his favorites.
@stumiller He chose not to do it/ he missed it, let's not get pedantic now, there is nothing worse than pedantry. As for your second point, a conductor has no right to make any serious deviations from the score. I suggest you read Berlioz treatise on instrumentation, that may give you an idea as to how serious a crime it is for a conductor to alter the original composer's music.
thumbs up if u listened to it completely, actually its pretty good, but i still like the 9th symphony a little more than this one, but im still happy that i listened to it, i really liked this movement and the second one was beast, and the first one its the most well known but... anyways really apreciated, thanks for the upload.
Mozart is horizontal- he's like a river that eddies and flows and nourishes everything it touches. He could be miraculously transported to a jazz band or a rock concert and he'd be up on stage improvising with the musicians, taking what they did and making it even better. Beethoven is horizontal, like a mountain thrust up from the landscape, building and building upon what was once a simple idea. If they did actually meet, one wonders what transpired.
Almost 40 years ago a school music teacher told me AT's readings of LVB were "too fast," making me buy some records. Conductors made LVB sound dead, ponderous- finally I heard living, beating, sweating Beethoven (and Wagner). In 1976 NBC used a photo of AT promoting their 75th anniversary special. I insisted, while returning from a trip to NY, we stop somewhere to watch. In a 3-hour show, Toscanini was shown for about 5 seconds. Seeing him now is amazing. "Body Language" personified. Thank You!
@LilianiaLoy I was referring to a comment that claimed "Beethoven's fifth has 3 movements." I stated a fact that it's wrong so yes I have every reasons in the world to say wrong.
Like a Supreme Court justice, Toscanini believed in a composer's original intent. He scoured Beethoven's texts, notations and related writings to determine as best he could how Beethoven wanted his symphonies performed. That's why these performances and recordings remain the gold standard by which others are compared.
@nbarry45 And like every good, conscientious musician, Toscanini always studied the score fresh every time he performed each piece he conducted, no matter how many times he had conducted, which is why his various performances of this piece are NOT all the same, but differ somewhat - not a lot, but there ARE differences. What a genius - and his conducting colleagues regarded him as such, a "one of a kind" and OUTSTANDING!!! Remember, too, that he was almost 85 when this was telecast!!!
@nbarry45: Toscanini was not above retouching the orchestrations of some musical works (even some of Beethoven's) in order to try and get closer to what he thought the composer intended. Listen to AT's NBC recording of the final section of Ravel's orchestration of Mussorgsky's "Pictures at an Exhibition" ("The Great Geat of Kiev"), or his recordings/broadcasts of Tchaikovsky's "Manfred" Symphony. If you are more than familiar with these works you can hear some of his retouchings.
Quite so!, nbarry45. If we could bring Beethoven back from the dead to hear his critical opinion of Arturo Toscanini's interpretation of his work, i would bet he would heartily approve of it.
Well,being a BIG fan on Beethoven,I believe that the music is GREAT and the players are just excellent.The only problem though is as some other commenter said.The lighting was not a problem but the faces of the players were not visible.A word of advice is this:when recording/videoing these events, try not to ''flood'' the area with too much lights as this spoils everything! Separate from that it was A WONDERFUL PIECE!
Regardless of the problems here, (lights, camera angles) if only MORE Toscanini performances had been taped at Carnegie Hall rather than the dry, sonority-proof Studio 8H of the NBC building in Rockefeller Center. That studio was designed for clarity in speech over the airwaves, and was a TERRIBLE hall for music making.
When I hear the NBC Symphony in Carnegie Hall it makes me wish--what if ALL their broadcasts had emanated from this great concert hall ?
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are wrong to measure this piece as classical or romantic, this piece belongs to its average, the third period are among his last quartets and symphony 9, we clearly can enter the Romantic period or the period rather bethoveniano, this style especially their quartets is very difficult to understand so far ....
This 4th movement is actually the BEST movement of this Symphony and so inherently Beethoven. The only reason to sit thru the 1st mvmnt is the fact that the 4th mvmnt will soon follow
I don't really like calling just a section of an entire piece the "best" since I like to think of it good as a whole. However, I myself find the 4th movement more enjoyable than the first, to me it's just sad that people ONLY think of the 5th symphony as the first movement, without knowing the 2nd, 3rd or 4th movements. I hate it when people think they know the first two bars of the 5th symphony, they "know the entire thing". No they don't, they just know a small portion of it..
@zeppelinman71 put my vote in with you and mario54671. I can never shake the first time I heard the WHOLE symphony in its entirety...I was about 17 and had just bought a new nice Harman Karden stereo, big speakers and was listening on publich radio...after the first movement (which we all know almost by heart) I thought okay fine, I will listen on out, just to see. When the finale hit I was beside myself! Who would use a symphony orchestra in this way??? INCREDIBLE POWER. My life was changed
@gurlsingerfan Hear just a moviment of any piece is like to buy a greateast hits album of a band, you will never understand what the musicians/composer had on mind.
@mario54671 Amen. The second movement is my favorite, in my opinion the most beautiful slow movement of any symphony. I think the first movement is brilliant, but it has lost some of its enjoyableness due to hype sadly.
@cellofellow1223 Interesting I still think the 3rd movement from the 9th is the best slow movement although the 3rd movement of the Hammerklavier Op106 is very hard to bet , also try the Tempest with Solomon where the whole work pivots what a genius this man was, btw is it true that Donald Tovey played all 32 sonatas over 3 evenings from memory?
@mario54671 tell me about it, same happens with fur elise, i actually tried learning it and was kind of hard, and u see people just doing the beggining over and over and they think they are this virtous person, those are ignorant people, but what can we do
The only reason for the first THREE movements IS the fourth movement : )
Beethoven can resonate with your suffering and pain, and then take it and transform it into something you thought it couldn't be. Hearing the motifs and themes transformed is like seeing your troubles fit into the most beautiful quilt that would be utterly boring without it!
The first violins are separated from the second violins... is that what you mean? Some conductors arrange the 1sts and 2nds on opposite sides rather than together, which supposedly was how they used to be arranged in orchestras in the 19th century.
'We're playing THIS IN state', meaning in some sort of state orchestra, not 'IN THIS state'. So how could I know? I guess I could just look at his profile, but I chose to be sociable and ask lol
TOSCANINI IS THE GREATEST MAESTRO OF ALL TIMES. HE WAS SO SERIUS IN HIS ICOMPARABLE WORKS. IT EXISTED JUST ONE MUSICIAN WHO CAN BE COMPARED TO HIM: FURTWÄNGLER. TOSCANINI WAS BORN IN 1860,ITALY AND DIED IN 1954,USA. HE WAS 92 YEARS OLD IN THIS VIDEO. wHAT A POWER, VIRILITY, LIRISM (NOT SENTIMENTLISM)AND... HE USED TO KNOW LIKE NO ONE WHAT HE DID. THANKS A LOT FOR POSTING!!
Arturo Toscanini (1867 - 1957) he was 85 when he conducted this concert on March 22, 1952 from Carnegie Hall, New York City. He died in 1957, just two months shy of his
Such an understated conducting style for such an aggressive result, coaxed out as if by magic. Remember that Beethoven in many ways is much closer to Mozart than to Brahms, and though horizontal vertigo in place of vertical expansiveness and grandiosity sounds strange because we don't generally hear such interpretation, to me it comes much closer to what Beethoven (especially early- and middle-period) is all about.
I'm not sure how to respond to Toscanini's interpretation of the work. The way he varies the tempo - now speeding up, now slowing it down - seems to me bit of interpretational fiat. It's brilliant, but it's so different from evey other interpretation I've heard it would take some getting used to before I could decide whether I like it or not.
Although I love this song and the conductor, I think the cellos need to play out more. THere are some moments when they have a really neat melody when you can't hear them at all.
Also, I feel that his tempo choices took away from the "wow" factor of the presto. Still, his work with the violins was great and the oboe player was phenomenal.
in highschool we practiced this whole symphony for several months, then played at a local college with their symphony in the next town over. quite the experience.
well no duh, an 85 yr old has a lot more hell of an experience than a 26 yr old.walshyyou, its kinda a dumb ccomment coz its lik saying that 10 yr old can read! and my 6month old baby cant even do tht!! IT sounds really dumb
It takes stamina all around, especially after three other straining movements. Our orchestra is playing it right now and we all nearly collapse after we complete it.
It should be rated 5 stars. Too bad Youtube has such a crappy rating system that if one person rates it less than five, you can't really get five ever again...
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Toscanini the best director, ever!!!! Number one, brilliant, precise, powerful, at 85 years old, shows the great performance, and power, brilliance, energetic, !!!!TERRIFIC!!!!!
An example to show the younge generations that the old men are very very valuable, they have the experience, and wisdom, The best!!!!
jivamoksha 1 month ago
Toscanini the best director, ever!!!! Number one, brilliant, precise, powerful, at 85 years old, shows the great performance, and power, brilliance, energetic, !!!!TERRIFIC!!!!!
An example to show the younge generations that the old men are very very valuable, they have the experience, and wisdom, The best!!!!
jivamoksha 1 month ago
@N2peopleskills ...and still while I listen with my eyes closed I can't stop seeing that bunch of kids flying them bicycles in front of the moon. I had to check. Williams score is different. Still.
swissbaldo 1 month ago
Прослушанный отрывок, сложно охарактеризовать, из-за многоплановости в изложении тем, и в этом весь Бетховен. Торжественное произведение, революционное повествование, окрашенное трагическим сопровождением. Светлая тема, тут же через минуту прерывается, как бы барабанным набатом ударных инструментов, предупреждая нас, о тех бедах и несчастьях, которые несут с собой любая революция или военные действия
somnenie88 2 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Ludwig van Beethoven
第5の第4楽章は突き抜け感がとても良い。
生きる喜びを貰えるよ(^^)
kidfuji 2 months ago
Wow. Toscanini is so beat at the end. Way to go old man!
b ^.^ d two thumbs up.
gcastellanos02 2 months ago
I was smiling the whole time today when I saw the Toronto Symphony Orchestra perform this today! I was with some music classes from my school. This movement is amazing! Or should I say all of them are! :')
Lawrencelovespiano 3 months ago
this is an awesome movement - i analyzed this in my music theory class!
farmerjohn2689 3 months ago in playlist Liked
I am glad to hear classical segments in our movies. Its the only exposure our children get. I remember the school used to take the 6th graders to hear a symphony. They stopped doing that when I got to the 6th grade. I guess the parents thought it would distroy their children. Drugs took over our schools instead I guess they are Happy now.
misteron07 3 months ago
Please why do you bring Paul up on this historic piece.This is Music not Dallas,Butte, Cinncinnati,or Pheonix Such ahole cities.I* truly am tired of our gun slinger ,fat bellied,over medicated American Shitheads!Give us Music Like Ludwic foreever.Take your Nascar Ron crap an jump off a Salt Lake highrise!,You are OBESE!!
TheTherese3 4 months ago
You can see the 85 year old Maestro is barely getting through this; he's already quite wiped into the first two minutes of this; the poor old guy had to finish it virtually on guts and out of pride; I don't blame him.
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
I played this at BLFAC this year with Masterworks as the second trumpet player, and this is the BEST movement in the whole symphony. I love this symphony and this is a great recording!!!
TrumpetFreak717 5 months ago
I which Obama could conduct America like Toscanini.
trumpshyco28 5 months ago
@trumpshyco28 Hopefully Ron Paul will be conducting America by January 20, 2013.
tourmaline86 4 months ago
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@trumpshyco28 Hopefully Ron Paul will be conducting America by January 20, 2013.
tourmaline86 4 months ago
Luke, you do not understand the POWER of music, join me and together we can spread love through the universe
N2peopleskills 5 months ago
Why is it that there's no great conductors anymore? It seems that they are all copying Karajan. I'm no expert on classical music, but that's the impression I get.
mrpink9876xxxx 5 months ago
@mrpink9876xxxx also, in no way Im saying Karajan wasn't great.
mrpink9876xxxx 5 months ago
@mrpink9876xxxx Try Gustavo Dudamel and the LA Philharmonic or with The Simon Bolivar Youth Orchestra of Venezuela.
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
just performed this symphony......really something excellent
bloopideebloop 6 months ago
Shut up!
Christopher15875 6 months ago
im learning to play this piece
godfire4 6 months ago
7:45 who finds this extremely cheerful and unique
FeynmanQuantum 7 months ago 7
the little musical segment starting around 1:14 was definitely used in a pretty famous movie score, but for some reason I can't pinpoint it. John Williams or Alan Silvestri most likely. Anyone know? It's so close to the same it's like hearing a wilhelm scream out of nowhere
Silks 7 months ago
@Silks Star Wars takes threads from all over this piece
N2peopleskills 5 months ago
@N2peopleskills Actually the main theme of "Star Wars" is Brahms' Second Piano Concerto; they're even both in the same key.
Williams also "stole" Brahms Academic Festival Overture for "Animal House."
SatchmoSings 5 months ago
i wish i lived in this time. .
LadiesMan1872 7 months ago
the record ever!!!!!!!!!!!!
cmnbmg 7 months ago
Awesomely beautiful, & in my opinion & that of close friends, Beethoven alone & uniquely is the truly best of Composers, the brilliant genius of all times!!...This & the 1st mvt of Symphony no. 5 are on my top list of classical music...Maestro Arturo Toscanini & his musicians r amazingly awesome!! Bravo!!
angela44ize 7 months ago
Talk about extended cadence :P
carfanaticphil 7 months ago 2
AWESOME!! SPECTACULAR performance!!
I just watched the entire symphony write from the start, absolutely brilliant!
Thank you SO much for the upload @TheGreatPerformers !
LOTRzagorath 7 months ago
Beethoven conducting:
7:48 Beethoven: OK, that's good, correct...
8:17 Beethoven: Stop, STOP! You idiots, I told you the trumpets should sound louder!
Trumpet players: OK, sorry man.
Beethoven: ...From the beginning.
All players together: From what beginning???
Beethoven: FROM THE BEGINNING!!!
DUM DUM DUM DUUUUM...
snoopdogg111000 8 months ago 26
@snoopdogg111000 I can't speak for Beethoven, but from what I've heard about some older conductors, that sort of thing could actually happen.
LOTRzagorath 7 months ago
Música inmortal, bajo la batuta inmortal de Toscanini, para eklevarla a la mçaxima expresión. maravillosa
belcanto24 8 months ago
I love watching this man conduct. No flash or showmanship. The right hand controls the tempo, and the left coaxes the subtleties and nuances he wants from his musicians.
Thanks for uploading this.
TomBarrister 9 months ago
i personally love the whole symphony but the first and 4th movements are def my two favorites. the first get me pumped up where as the 4th makes me feel uplifted and happy. the 5th symphony is definitely my favorite classical piece along with mozart's requiem and bach's toccata en fugue
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have lost the entry on 7:03 ? Don't be hard with yourself toscanini, anyway you are a great men and one of greatest performers, must have suffered much with the sweat in his eyes the whole time.
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denislrn 9 months ago
THIS. IS. SO. GOOD.
soominpark123 10 months ago
make me cry, sublime!!!!!!!
Calipur 10 months ago
I STILL think of Napoleon when I hear this
Staszu13 10 months ago
@Staszu13
the 4th mov. always makes me think of flying above the clouds while a parade is happening on the ground below me :)
bblue82 10 months ago
@Staszu13 You mean the third symphony (eroica)
fadethetrade 9 months ago
This fourth movement is simply the best I've ever heard in my life. (professional musician).
MrBallarin23 10 months ago
I have been a professional musician since 1974. I would die to play for a conductor like Toscanini. He's just the man.
Fladabosco 11 months ago
Amazing, this was on network TV back in the day. I wonder what kind of an audience share they got then. Nowadays, you'd have to spice the thing up with a few murders and a vampire queen dripping blood to get people to watch.
But nowadays we also have Youtube.
Bravo for nowadays!
Dahveed721 11 months ago
Resolution always settles the soul, and the melodies heard previously all resolve in this fourth movement. Could you call this mvt the kingdom of the major chord, even more than most? Plus, it is brass-heavy, a welcome change from the string dominance earlier, as well as fast and loud, the American listener's fave qualities! Ha
duterium1 1 year ago
Brilliant music, brilliantly conducted and brilliantly played.
DeedsResearcher 1 year ago
Beethoven was the only composer who went from the Third movement of a symphony directly into the Fourth movement without a break. You gotta love this man's willingness to break with convention.
stumiller 1 year ago
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Is that true? There's not other symphony that does that? It is a brilliant transition, though.
BubbaCoop 1 year ago
@BubbaCoop It is the only one I know of, and it puts quite a load on both the orchestra and conductor, but I think it's perfect!
stumiller 1 year ago
Un orrore!!! Smitizziamo questi nomi... per favore!
Boneggio 1 year ago
AAAAAAAAAA! he missed the repeat! Karajan does this too, it is very infuriating.
sstuddert 1 year ago
@sstuddert In this mvt? Exactly where.
SteveAndrewLangford 1 year ago
@SteveAndrewLangford You haven't seen the score? In that case, there is a repeat in the score at about 2:27. Bernstein doesn't miss it, which is good. Unfortunately, his performances of the work don't compare to Toscanini or Karajan otherwise.
sstuddert 1 year ago
@sstuddert I haven't. I'm weird like that. This symphony is so beautiful, and when I see the score, I know I will never get to see it 'like-new' again. Good to know. Thanks man.
SteveAndrewLangford 1 year ago
@sstuddert From what I[ve heard from some conductors, it isn't that he missed it; it's that he chose not to do it. Sorry as that seems, a conductor has the right to intrerpret, leave out, add extra, or whatever he/she sees fit. It makes for some interesting listening, though, and everyone has his favorites.
stumiller 1 year ago
@stumiller He chose not to do it/ he missed it, let's not get pedantic now, there is nothing worse than pedantry. As for your second point, a conductor has no right to make any serious deviations from the score. I suggest you read Berlioz treatise on instrumentation, that may give you an idea as to how serious a crime it is for a conductor to alter the original composer's music.
sstuddert 1 year ago
@sstuddert Whatever you say. I was just here to enjoy the music.
stumiller 1 year ago
Aww Poor Him. He was Sweating Like a Pig. :( . But he Did and Excellent Job. :P
girlgotpower 1 year ago
@girlgotpower Carnegie Hall's air-conditioning was not something that was designed with early televisions lighting requirements in mind.
And yes, Toscanini did do an excellent job; he was, after all, an excellent musician.
SatchmoSings 1 year ago
thumbs up if u listened to it completely, actually its pretty good, but i still like the 9th symphony a little more than this one, but im still happy that i listened to it, i really liked this movement and the second one was beast, and the first one its the most well known but... anyways really apreciated, thanks for the upload.
OrquestaSonDelPuerto 1 year ago
my favourite symphony, he he!
Norgelt 1 year ago
Wow! This is amazing. I didn't know Bruce Forseith could conduct an orchestra? I love Beethoven's 5th
ClareBryan 1 year ago
Mozart is horizontal- he's like a river that eddies and flows and nourishes everything it touches. He could be miraculously transported to a jazz band or a rock concert and he'd be up on stage improvising with the musicians, taking what they did and making it even better. Beethoven is horizontal, like a mountain thrust up from the landscape, building and building upon what was once a simple idea. If they did actually meet, one wonders what transpired.
44032 1 year ago
@44032 mountains are horizontal??? wtf??? btw, they did meet once. but never really worked together.
gSd1996 1 year ago
@gSd1996 Opps- It should have read "Beethoven is vertical". Sorry.
44032 1 year ago
Almost 40 years ago a school music teacher told me AT's readings of LVB were "too fast," making me buy some records. Conductors made LVB sound dead, ponderous- finally I heard living, beating, sweating Beethoven (and Wagner). In 1976 NBC used a photo of AT promoting their 75th anniversary special. I insisted, while returning from a trip to NY, we stop somewhere to watch. In a 3-hour show, Toscanini was shown for about 5 seconds. Seeing him now is amazing. "Body Language" personified. Thank You!
unmusica 1 year ago
I've heard this great symphony over a hundred times and i still can't hum it all the way through.
I wonder if anyone can, without reading the score sheet.
ThePurpleHarpoon 1 year ago
@ThePurpleHarpoon that is one of the dumbest ideas i have ever heard adn yet for that reason entirely hilarious
wjsado 1 year ago
I absolutely adore Beethoven's range of dynamics! Sometimes the music is blaring at you and at other times, you have to strain to hear.
Moon0Royalty 1 year ago
does he cry at the end?
juniorn1 1 year ago
Beethoven's fifth has 3 movements
aabaker22 1 year ago
Wrong. Third movement goes to fourth movement without break.
flautist 1 year ago 10
I'm sorry, you're correct. Most recordings I have don't show attacca. Thank you!
aabaker22 1 year ago
@flautist It's Beethoven's style of music, so you shouldn't say wrong.
LilianiaLoy 9 months ago
@LilianiaLoy I was referring to a comment that claimed "Beethoven's fifth has 3 movements." I stated a fact that it's wrong so yes I have every reasons in the world to say wrong.
flautist 6 months ago
Es genial
angelgonzalezmartine 1 year ago
IL MAESTRO !
ugnedileo 2 years ago 2
Like a Supreme Court justice, Toscanini believed in a composer's original intent. He scoured Beethoven's texts, notations and related writings to determine as best he could how Beethoven wanted his symphonies performed. That's why these performances and recordings remain the gold standard by which others are compared.
nbarry45 2 years ago 3
@nbarry45 And like every good, conscientious musician, Toscanini always studied the score fresh every time he performed each piece he conducted, no matter how many times he had conducted, which is why his various performances of this piece are NOT all the same, but differ somewhat - not a lot, but there ARE differences. What a genius - and his conducting colleagues regarded him as such, a "one of a kind" and OUTSTANDING!!! Remember, too, that he was almost 85 when this was telecast!!!
jmccracken1963 1 year ago
@nbarry45: Toscanini was not above retouching the orchestrations of some musical works (even some of Beethoven's) in order to try and get closer to what he thought the composer intended. Listen to AT's NBC recording of the final section of Ravel's orchestration of Mussorgsky's "Pictures at an Exhibition" ("The Great Geat of Kiev"), or his recordings/broadcasts of Tchaikovsky's "Manfred" Symphony. If you are more than familiar with these works you can hear some of his retouchings.
flimflam742 1 year ago
Quite so!, nbarry45. If we could bring Beethoven back from the dead to hear his critical opinion of Arturo Toscanini's interpretation of his work, i would bet he would heartily approve of it.
hotwok19 1 year ago
I always laugh when it gets to the ending for how it keeps going and going and going and going and then it's over.
and going and going and going and going.
OrangeSodaKing 2 years ago
lol!! Beethoven was the original Energiser bunny....he was 171 years ahead of his time :-=).
HolyMotherofGrid 1 year ago
OrangeSodaKing, I absolutely agree with you on this one. I always crack up at that.
Dakmor123 1 year ago
Epic. Great Toscanini.
redhotchiliangel 2 years ago 2
Es genial
angelgonzalezmartine 1 year ago
Well,being a BIG fan on Beethoven,I believe that the music is GREAT and the players are just excellent.The only problem though is as some other commenter said.The lighting was not a problem but the faces of the players were not visible.A word of advice is this:when recording/videoing these events, try not to ''flood'' the area with too much lights as this spoils everything! Separate from that it was A WONDERFUL PIECE!
janielsteer 2 years ago 2
Heh. If they had taken your advice it would have saved our beloved Maestro from sweating too much!
OzzyKingofKings 2 years ago
Regardless of the problems here, (lights, camera angles) if only MORE Toscanini performances had been taped at Carnegie Hall rather than the dry, sonority-proof Studio 8H of the NBC building in Rockefeller Center. That studio was designed for clarity in speech over the airwaves, and was a TERRIBLE hall for music making.
When I hear the NBC Symphony in Carnegie Hall it makes me wish--what if ALL their broadcasts had emanated from this great concert hall ?
Marvelous job maestro-what an orchestra!
ipmoic 2 years ago 2
arturo T. you're the only one to understand LvBeethoven!
LucasDeckmyn 2 years ago 4
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are wrong to measure this piece as classical or romantic, this piece belongs to its average, the third period are among his last quartets and symphony 9, we clearly can enter the Romantic period or the period rather bethoveniano, this style especially their quartets is very difficult to understand so far ....
cdera01 2 years ago
Bravo, maestro Toscanini! Bravo!
ftorresgamez 2 years ago 18
Well it is about time to bring the trombones into the orchestra!
KevinGSaunders 2 years ago 2
Hooah! I loved playing this piece.
FCTuba 2 years ago
Jim from Forster: What a performance! Sad to think all these men (no women I notice) have departed this earth; what a loss!!
jpkleyn 2 years ago 2
This 4th movement is actually the BEST movement of this Symphony and so inherently Beethoven. The only reason to sit thru the 1st mvmnt is the fact that the 4th mvmnt will soon follow
otony10 2 years ago 5
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I don't really like calling just a section of an entire piece the "best" since I like to think of it good as a whole. However, I myself find the 4th movement more enjoyable than the first, to me it's just sad that people ONLY think of the 5th symphony as the first movement, without knowing the 2nd, 3rd or 4th movements. I hate it when people think they know the first two bars of the 5th symphony, they "know the entire thing". No they don't, they just know a small portion of it..
mario54671 2 years ago 50
you know whats kool...my marching band is doing symphony No.5 as our opener and we are doing the 4th movement
bigmoe93 2 years ago
@mario54671 You are absolutely right 100%! I totally agree with you. Well said.
zeppelinman71 1 year ago
@zeppelinman71 put my vote in with you and mario54671. I can never shake the first time I heard the WHOLE symphony in its entirety...I was about 17 and had just bought a new nice Harman Karden stereo, big speakers and was listening on publich radio...after the first movement (which we all know almost by heart) I thought okay fine, I will listen on out, just to see. When the finale hit I was beside myself! Who would use a symphony orchestra in this way??? INCREDIBLE POWER. My life was changed
gurlsingerfan 1 year ago
@gurlsingerfan Hear just a moviment of any piece is like to buy a greateast hits album of a band, you will never understand what the musicians/composer had on mind.
polyjr 1 year ago
@mario54671 Amen. The second movement is my favorite, in my opinion the most beautiful slow movement of any symphony. I think the first movement is brilliant, but it has lost some of its enjoyableness due to hype sadly.
cellofellow1223 1 year ago
@cellofellow1223 Ah I love the second movement! :D
I saw this live in the Disney Hall right before Esa-Pekka Salonen left the LA Philharmonic! I couldn't stop smiling during the second movement.
mario54671 1 year ago
@cellofellow1223 Interesting I still think the 3rd movement from the 9th is the best slow movement although the 3rd movement of the Hammerklavier Op106 is very hard to bet , also try the Tempest with Solomon where the whole work pivots what a genius this man was, btw is it true that Donald Tovey played all 32 sonatas over 3 evenings from memory?
anthonybooth3 7 months ago
@mario54671 tell me about it, same happens with fur elise, i actually tried learning it and was kind of hard, and u see people just doing the beggining over and over and they think they are this virtous person, those are ignorant people, but what can we do
OrquestaSonDelPuerto 1 year ago
@mario54671 Couldn't agree more. Most inspiral and uplifting piece.
The enigma's suggest an inspiration for the 9th.
Sublime piece of music.
SALTYWOOFHOUND 1 year ago
@mario54671 I love his music
wraith149 11 months ago
The only reason for the first THREE movements IS the fourth movement : )
Beethoven can resonate with your suffering and pain, and then take it and transform it into something you thought it couldn't be. Hearing the motifs and themes transformed is like seeing your troubles fit into the most beautiful quilt that would be utterly boring without it!
jeffamarie 2 years ago 2
cool cant define thi best momento.. all the song kicks asses
morohardware 2 years ago
Esto es gloria
54294493 2 years ago 2
At 1:03 is pure brilliance, in my opinion.
GeneralOfAnegon 2 years ago 4
the caption is proven at 7:10. look at the perspiration!
herbiehusker13 2 years ago
7:29 = lol!
akri902 3 years ago
waaa old times... jajaj its beter colombian musicians
sblm11 3 years ago
I know, right! This is an awesome performance, though! LOL
giligara30492 2 years ago
Massiccio!
chitsevermag301 3 years ago
does anyone else but me see how the strings are arranged differently than usual?
zeppelinman71 3 years ago
o think its just the mirror effect of the camera (lol this is just a guess)
hunnybunch92 3 years ago
The first violins are separated from the second violins... is that what you mean? Some conductors arrange the 1sts and 2nds on opposite sides rather than together, which supposedly was how they used to be arranged in orchestras in the 19th century.
BorisGodunov 2 years ago
Arturo Toscanini?? The best director ever and ever!!!!!
iguarni 3 years ago 5
Poderoso!
LEOPARDTWO 3 years ago
Thank you for posting these vids. It is great that our younger generations can listen too, two such maestros!
zzflowtsohgzz 3 years ago
awesome, we're playing this in state
theamericanchinese 3 years ago
which state?
jeffamarie 3 years ago
well...if the description says this is Carnegie Hall, New York, then he means New York.
mario54671 3 years ago
'We're playing THIS IN state', meaning in some sort of state orchestra, not 'IN THIS state'. So how could I know? I guess I could just look at his profile, but I chose to be sociable and ask lol
jeffamarie 3 years ago
ahhh yeah see I'm not really familiar with many orchestras..I wouldn't know either..yeah I guess it is good to ask :P
mario54671 3 years ago
良い演奏ですね。
mskw0125 3 years ago
Such clear arm actions. Great sound for the year! Thanks for posting.
walshamite 3 years ago 3
sutil esta pieza siempre bethoveen impecable
jamuche 3 years ago
The greatest splendor of western musical tradition.
TheAdmiringFool 3 years ago 4
How glorious!!
mrscience00 3 years ago 3
love this piece!
earthatic 3 years ago 5
It's one of the most grandious and wonderful endingings i've always listen in my whole life!!!
ivoseixas 3 years ago
superb ending, the genius of beethoven, thank you.
NafeesLACC 3 years ago
cok güzel, mükemmel bir harmoni olusturmus.
toytextil 3 years ago
shweet
Away236 3 years ago
1:15-1:25 HAS TO BE! John William's inspiration for the E.T. tune/theme! Please tell me I'm not the only one who hears this.
DaftStrings 3 years ago 2
Quite possible, interesting observation!
fiddlinmatt 3 years ago
Did anyone else get shivers watching this series? Thanks so much for posting this Maestro who is the perfect compliment to the Master.
Justin
JustinHEMI05 3 years ago 25
Absolutely
jdmorgan23 3 years ago 2
Oh YES !!!!
tremayne3 3 years ago 3
TOSCANINI IS THE GREATEST MAESTRO OF ALL TIMES. HE WAS SO SERIUS IN HIS ICOMPARABLE WORKS. IT EXISTED JUST ONE MUSICIAN WHO CAN BE COMPARED TO HIM: FURTWÄNGLER. TOSCANINI WAS BORN IN 1860,ITALY AND DIED IN 1954,USA. HE WAS 92 YEARS OLD IN THIS VIDEO. wHAT A POWER, VIRILITY, LIRISM (NOT SENTIMENTLISM)AND... HE USED TO KNOW LIKE NO ONE WHAT HE DID. THANKS A LOT FOR POSTING!!
bernardocarmopiano 3 years ago 2
Arturo Toscanini (1867 - 1957) he was 85 here. He was indeed one of the finest conductors of the twentieth century.
CzarDodon 3 years ago
Arturo Toscanini (1867 - 1957) he was 85 when he conducted this concert on March 22, 1952 from Carnegie Hall, New York City. He died in 1957, just two months shy of his
90th birthday.
jimmyratz 3 years ago
@bernardocarmopiano >> I disagree. I prefer Furtwangler, and you don't need to shout. You've gone and damaged my hearing.
lewars1912 1 year ago
brahms hated being compared to beethoven, and could not escape the fact that their work sounded so congruent.
nextandykaufman 3 years ago
Such an understated conducting style for such an aggressive result, coaxed out as if by magic. Remember that Beethoven in many ways is much closer to Mozart than to Brahms, and though horizontal vertigo in place of vertical expansiveness and grandiosity sounds strange because we don't generally hear such interpretation, to me it comes much closer to what Beethoven (especially early- and middle-period) is all about.
nukenukum 3 years ago
Brilliant performance, definately a master.
I'm not sure how to respond to Toscanini's interpretation of the work. The way he varies the tempo - now speeding up, now slowing it down - seems to me bit of interpretational fiat. It's brilliant, but it's so different from evey other interpretation I've heard it would take some getting used to before I could decide whether I like it or not.
Theospeak1 3 years ago
Estos es tener guevos.
davidoves 3 years ago 3
y eso es no saber escribir
menusis 3 years ago
Although I love this song and the conductor, I think the cellos need to play out more. THere are some moments when they have a really neat melody when you can't hear them at all.
Also, I feel that his tempo choices took away from the "wow" factor of the presto. Still, his work with the violins was great and the oboe player was phenomenal.
tiffyissexierthanu 3 years ago
my school district's high school honor orchestra played this!! It is such a intense piece!!!
shoooooooooooota 3 years ago
in highschool we practiced this whole symphony for several months, then played at a local college with their symphony in the next town over. quite the experience.
nextandykaufman 3 years ago
amazing, he is so good being 85 and preforming with such power, this is simpling amazing
qwerty123321lol 3 years ago
clarinet held over at end
licoricestic 3 years ago
omg... an 85 year old conducting with such vivacity and without score sheet :""")
flawfive 3 years ago 2
I know he's really amazing. My 26 year old band director couldn't even do that!!
walshyou01 3 years ago
well no duh, an 85 yr old has a lot more hell of an experience than a 26 yr old.walshyyou, its kinda a dumb ccomment coz its lik saying that 10 yr old can read! and my 6month old baby cant even do tht!! IT sounds really dumb
whahaa123 3 years ago
Well, the hell with you. I was just saying that my Band teacher can't conduct as well as he can. It was just an OBSERVATION!!
walshyou01 3 years ago
well, the hell with u too. it was just an OPINIONNNN!
whahaa123 3 years ago
well, for pitty's sake...
walshyou01 3 years ago
well, the hell with you both! The one who knows it all it LVB himself, and that's it.
ieBrazil 3 years ago
He was 92 years old. He still being the greatest maestro of all times.
bernardocarmopiano 3 years ago
wow..its long...i can only play for like...5-6 min. w/out stopping
pokie281 3 years ago
This must require tremendous stamina especially on the violinists.
gwaur 3 years ago
It takes stamina all around, especially after three other straining movements. Our orchestra is playing it right now and we all nearly collapse after we complete it.
tiffyissexierthanu 3 years ago
Classic Beethoven. :)
gwaur 3 years ago
pretentious comment inserted here
tgjkr562 3 years ago
THIS PIECE SHOULD BE RATED 5 STARS!
violinwizard01 3 years ago
It should be rated 5 stars. Too bad Youtube has such a crappy rating system that if one person rates it less than five, you can't really get five ever again...
SticklaForATickla 3 years ago 2
I wish my orchestra would do this piece!
violinwizard01 3 years ago