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  • The historians confirm they were revenge attacks on the Armenian convoy by the Kurds and Turks and irregulars who got their own people killed by the Armenian militia and killing gangs.  What is not clear is this: Was there an Ottoman policy to organise such attacks or did some elements within the Ottoman government acted outside the official orders. Turks argue it was not the official Ottoman policy. Plus they hanged some Turkish officials for irregularities they knew existed at the time.

  • When Armenians were deported, the Ottomans didn’t have the means to organise such a hugely complicated and logistically difficult manoeuvre. It was inevitable that many people died during this what effectively turned into a death march. But the Ottomans were not in the mood to worry about this neither did they have the means to organise it.They were fighting a war of survival and the Armenians were passively and actively collaborating with the enemy. It was a matter of national security survival

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  • The convoys got attacked. There were communities that suffer at the hand of the Armenian bandits and their allies Russians. Historians telling us that these were revenge attack as well as attacks by the irregulars looking for a bounty, as some Armenians were rich folk. But also most people died of starvation and diseases rife in the whole of Eastern Anatolia. What happened was a tragedy and inexcusable, but it was a bloody war and Turks were under attack and the weaker side.

  • And what about the millions of Turks massacred by Armenians. Do you have any clips of those? No I don't think so, because the Imperialist bastards who egged on the Armenians were not interested dying Turks as they were subhuman Muslims! Go to Hell with your deeply racist and biased views of the world. The Jews didn't attacked Germans you muppet!  Read the history and consult opposing views as well

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  • Ok lets assume Armenians have paid of this professor along with Taner Akcam, Orhan Pamuk and all the other scholars that agree the genocide did take place. And lets assume the Armenian lobby got more than 20 nations (including France, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Russia, Switzerland) to pass resolutions recognizing the killings as genocide. What about the official documents from US, French, German, Russian archives? How do you deny that?

  • I am going to kill you, you ugly gypsy son of a donkey whore, you have no country, hahahah, there is no armenia, what you call armenia is part of TURKIYE, and soon we will kick you devils out and take back our land, hahahahaha

    I will make you my slave like my grand father done to your grandparents, i will feed you dog shit, at least its better than armenian food hahahah

  • Turkish animals, The truth is there, you cannot hide or lie about, so many documents and testimonies about Armenian Genocide..Which stupid person on earth will believe u?? U criminals!!!!If Armenian killed is because they have to defend themselves!!!!

  • poor armenian propaganda!you can´t rewrite historical truths with money and lies.proofs are basics for history which you don´t have.You slaughtered us turks in anatolia,killed azerbaycan turks in hocali,occupied karabag and asala has assassinated over 70 turkish ambassadors all over the world.and we CAN proof all these things!come and look at the turkish massgraves in anatolia.armenians have committed genocide against TURKS.FACING THE TRUTH IS SO HARD FOR YOU

  • The Truth is front of u and u still can't see. Imagine what kind of people are u????

  • by the way, most of your Kurd friends are Syrian and Armenian. Turkish Kurds are not active in your hate propaganda. Main reason is because your people killed 50,000 Kurds in Van and they didn't forget. Their animosity towards Armenians is flaming. Turks in general don't give a crap because Armenian uprising died after the Turks defeated the Brits,Greeks,French,and Ruskies.

  • you take such pride in ethnic dissolution, the longer Turkey stays ethnically isolated, the sooner it'll collapse from w/in...don't worry about me, and the Armenian Genocide (it will be recognized)...Turkey has too many problems to list, and as a Turk you should be worried about that....to rebel against an oppressor is NEVER terrorism, it is one situation where it is a justifiable act!!

  • seriously though, doesn't Turkey realize it's doing itself in by denying the Armenian genocide? They're so vocal about their lie that the genocide didn't happen that the planet grows only more and more suspicious of Turkey.

  • Turks have no need to deny anything, but the Armenians have a hard time hearing the truth. you come to the West several generations ago during the collapse of an empire, have Turkish names,food,etc and I can understand the dilemna when u ask your parents where u came from. The massacre issue surfaced several decades ago and was not an issue past the 60s. The French,Lebanese Armenians spread the hate and false lies.

  • look at you.....you're SO FUNNY, SO FUNNY....Turks are a RECENT bunch, speak w/ an anthropolgist outside of Turkey for once and you may see the truth....you Turks want to deitify yourselves as the greatest people to have ever lived, i'm sorry but you're really off on the deep end....i'm Armenian and have ZERO use to study a language (Turkish) that has seen more changes than any other language in the region...

  • there were SOME, really SOME, revenge acts against Turks by the Armenians as a RESULT of the Abdul Hamid massacres, and the genocides, totalling in the low few thousands....you have to understand cause and effect. The Armenians didn't invite genocide, and they never initiated the violence, this is the issue here.

  • Abdul Hamid Massacres? What was that all about. He just suddenly decided to kill Armenians? There was no persecution of Armenians in Turkey, but there were active militias operating under Missionary groups and Russia going back to the 1820s. The Armenians helped Russia invade Eastern Turkey and the Caucasus twice resulting in millions of deaths....

  • little atatu,,,,did Armenians come over from Mongolia and invade asia minor, or was it turks who came from mongolia and invade asia minor? Who raised the first violent hand?

    Turks. Sorry dear, taht's reality. Armenians have worked hard to preserve their identity.

  • Listen Jack, my DNA has been in Anatolia for 12,000yrs. Yes, I had it checked FYI. It's purely Turkish. That Mongolia shit is old. Most of Europe came from Mongolia before several ice ages ago. But the Turks lived in a vast territory stretching from Scandinavia, to yes, Mongolia(Yakut). Armenians have been in Anatolia since 2nd BC, and in larger numbers during the 10th century during Byzantine times and more came during Ottoman. Armenians are from PERSIA, not TURKIYE...

  • LOL........................aha­hahahaha.....oh my god, this is the greatest pseucoscience i've seen about turks, that's funny....no little one, your ancestors come from mongolia, wake up.....

  • also more about your DNA, 12000 years ago there was no civilization on earth, just group migration and nomadic lifestyles...Armenians had built a civilization in what is now Eastern Turkey WAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY before the arrival of the turks....if i check my DNA i'm sure it'll go back 12-15 thousand years tooo.....what a pathetic argument you made....you haven't disproved there was no Armenian genocide

  • I believe the best book about ethnic cleansing about Armenian,Nazi,Yugoslavia,Rwand­a,etc. A dark side of the Democracy,Michael Mann.

  • I guess you live in Turkey and if we did an ethnic cleansic how could you live in Turkey?

  • Bullshit. 3 million Turks died in the Caucasus and Eastern Turkey from 1880 to 1919 by the Armenians. I lost half my family in Kars. In Kars alone, Armenians killed over 100,000. They had an Army of 80,000 with several hundred thousand guns, more then the Ottomans, because the Turks were on the Western front fighting at Gallipoli. You can get any bozo talk, but the truth will never die. Lie all you want...

  • ataturk... keep up the boolsheet..type away...noone belives your joke denials, lol.

  • In my spiritual beliefs, lies will always fail. Turks will never belief your crap because we have dead relatives, in Kars we have close to 50,000 deaths. Kars is one of 10 cities the Armenians destroyed and pillaged. 1.5 million deaths is the joke. 1.5m before and 1.3m after results in 200,000 deaths, mostly to famine, but the Diaspora needs HATE TO BREED.

  • And you take all the Armenian suffering and make it your own. I think you're the only bozo here bud.

  • listen wiper.I had all my relatives killed by Armenian goons. Turks in Eastern Turkey did not have weapons or protection, and they were sitting ducks for the Armenian killers. I don't need an Armenian lie machine to tell me what the truth is. I have dead relatives that died in vain and justice has not prevailed for them or the 580,000 killed during 1912 to 1919 alone. Turks have not killed Armenians, yet....

  • you listen atafag. I would like to see you try and kill any Armenians. The only goons are you ala worshipping muslim mother fuckers.

  • My apologies for the comment above. My hotheaded young cousin was on with my screen-name. I attempted to mark the post as spam. My apologies to any Muslims who were offended.

  • ataturk2k, what YOU are saying IS BULLSHIT!!!

    Fear not the truth, which isn't what you have been taught.

  • Stanley Cohen, Professor of Criminology, Hebrew University, Jerusalem12/1/1995 - "The nearest successful example [of collective denial] in the modern era is the 80 years of official denial by successive Turkish governments of the 1915-17 genocide against the Armenians in which 1.5 million people lost their lives. This denial has been sustained by deliberate propaganda, lying and cover-ups, forging documents, suppression of archives, and bribing scholars."

  • Lord Robert Cecil

    Under-secretary of state for foreign affairs (House of Commons, Hansard (5th series), Vol. LXXV, 16 November 1915, Cols. 1770-1776.)

    I think it may be said, without the least fear of exaggeration, that no more horrible crime has been committed in the history of the world... This is a premeditative crime determined on long ago... It was a long-considered, deliberate policy to destroy and wipe out of existence the Armenians in Turkey. It was systematically carried out.

  • It's awful what had happened to the Armenians in 1915.

    Armenians were Christian minority living peacefully in the region;

    Peaceful enough not to be able to defend themselves against the atrocities committed against them. Turkish leadership could not see the idea of living together harmoniously, and tried to annihilate the defenseless Armenians.

    It's appalling the denial of the Armenian Genocide!

  • Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

    Founder of the modern Turkish Republic in 1923 and revered throughout Turkey, in an interview published on August 1, 1926 in The Los Angeles Examiner, talking about former Young Turks in his country...

    These left-overs from the former Young Turk Party, who should have been made to account for the millions of our Christian subjects who were ruthlessly driven en masse, from their homes and massacred, have been restive under the Republican rule.

  • TURKISH GENOCIDE OF ARMENIAN POPULATION(1914-1922)

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    Part-2

    West Anatolia: (Before)371,800-(After)27,000

    Cilicia-Nth Syria:(Before)309,000-(After)7­0,000

    Eropean Turkey:(Before)194,000-(After)­163,000

    Trebizond:(Before)73,390-(Afte­r)15,000

    Total: (Before)2,133,190-(After)387,8­00 = 1,745,390

  • TURKISH GENOCIDE OF ARMENIAN POPULATION (1914 - 1922)

    ------------------------------­-----------------------

    Part-1

    Erzerum: (Before)215,000-(After)1,500

    Van: (Before)197,000-(After)500

    Kharbert:(Before)204,000-(Afte­r)35,000

    Diabekir:(Before)124,000-(Afte­r)3,000

    Bitlis: (Before)220,000-(After)56,000

    Sivas: (Before)225,000-(After)16,800

  • hes so correct , even a jew realizes it

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  • GOD see everything and all world will recognized GENOCIDE because this is THE TRUE! the world have STOP CONTINUE GENOCIDE EVENTS. all people are human being. We will continue to REMEMBER until it's RECOGNITION !

  • i want to talk to cleaver armeniens only. we all need peace but armenia needs more evidently. 1915-18 period was WW1 time and your grandparents united with french, british, italian, greek and russian millitary and fired, shooted us from insides of the country (killing 625.000 innocent village people) as well as outside of our borders jointly with russians, french and others. BUT YOU ALL LOST THE WAR. WHERE IS THE GENOCIDE OF THIS STORY. SIMPLY YOU ALL LOST THE WAR,accept it or not.

  • Turkey has always been afraid of its own history and always brained washed its people with valor,bravery and heroism which was fabricated to keep itself ignorant so that it can control its population.

  • I am so disgudted by this speaker in the sense that he is talking about the history without giving any example and showing any document. He is talking about his own theories. Probably he is trying to get his tenior from his university easily. Nothing is easy and free b....

  • imagine if Turkey recognizes the Genocide, and gives Armenians their lands, including my grandparents land OUrfa (yetesya) and Anteb. wouldn't that be so nice of Turkey does such a noble thing?

    Thank you turkey for recognizing the Armenian Genocide, and giving back all the lands that you stole from us.

  • Land is not something that is given to somebody, It's sth to fight for and sth that's won by blood... That s.o.b. above will not fight for you, can't you see?. They are preparing to use you as a pawn to undermine Turks. We have no evil intentions against poor Armenians deported in 1915. Come be my guest in Urfa, but don't even think about forcing us down on our knees.

  • pişmiş kelle why dont you tell the history of america in america and in the middle east

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