boy I'm glad I came back to to this video. thx for the idea of getting a stronger spring. mine was doing this as well. more with critical defense than pdx1 though. the round in the top of the magazine inches forward a little. presumably due to some slide movement. when the round moves forward enough, the slide won't lockup anymore because it rubs the underside of the chambered round.
@yz9890 The stronger spring is the best thing I have done. I think it may have more to do with the recoil spring overcoming the pressure put on the rim of the casing from the extractor. It cycles the PDX1 better because its hotter, so there is an increase in slide speed, which helps feeding. A 13lb will give you a nice tight lockup, and cycle everthing better. Good luck to you.
@sgtmasters Look at FBI crime stats and/or talk to a few police officers, they all suggest that an armed attack happens in a few seconds. Thus, it is better to shave off the extra time of racking the slide.
cekirk1 is right. If you add a #13 recoil sring made by Wolff, it will clear up the slide issue. It can be ordered from Brownells for like $13 (shipping included). The 9lb spring ruger uses is too weak for a tight lockup. They use a light spring so women can rack the slide(my opinion), but it leads to reliability issues. My LCP took a good amount of work to be trusted (low serial number), but now it gets carried everday.
I would try loosening up the holster. Every time I get some new leather I wrap the gun in saran wrap to make it thicker all the way around and let it sit in the holster a couple days.
Okay people. I can't keep silent about the foolishness I'm reading on this comment page. A defensive pistol *MUST* be able to be carried with the chamber loaded. Don't babble about how little time it takes to rack. There's a good chance that if you're drawing the pistol in self-defense, you'll *need* that off hand to fend off an attack. Keep your finger off the trigger; that's all the safety you need. If this gun can go of from being dropped, it's an inferior design. Buy another gun.
boy I wouldn't carry a firearm that wasn't chambered. I'm not sure what training you received that taught you that but you need to be able to fire that weapon with one hand if necessary as soon as you can put it on target. within the effective range of the LCP, you've likely got no time to chamber it first.
Alright folks, time for a reality check. Basic safety....don't carry it in the holster with a round in the chamber. If you bothered to read the manual that comes with that gun, it clearly states not to carry it charged with a round in the chamber. The problem you are having will go away if you follow basic safety protocols. You have created the problem.
Just like you don't put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot, don't carry with the chamber charged
Where are you that you need to have the chamber charged? As you draw that gun you can rack it as you draw it up, you wont lose but a fraction of a second doing so, and when the slide fall forward it will seat properly.
You can also use what you are seeing as a plus. Its a great way to tell if there is a round in the chamber. The gun does have a visual place to see the round, but in the dark you can tell by pulling the slide back a bit. if it sticks, the chamber is charged.
This is not the gun to carry hot. It has no safety, they only safety is an empty barrel. Ruger also warns it can go off if dropped, they even recalled a bunch of them because of that. This is also in the manual.
Best practice, carry it with nothing in the chamber and un-cocked. A little practice at drawing and racking, and this is a great gun. If you are not willing to follow the rule and practice, give the gun to someone else.
@Thenewkid691 For anyone reading this guys comment about don't carry a gun with a round chambered is absolute bullshit. The couple seconds it takes you to rack the slide is what is going to cost you your life in a defensive situation.The double action trigger pull on the first shot of the LCP is like a revolver, and it is the reason it has no safety. The LCP is perfectly safe to carry with a round chambered.
@Thenewkid691 I'm sorry if this seems rude, it really isn't meant to be. It seems you are terribly naive about the reason we carry concealed in the first place. It isn't to be cowboys playing with firearms. It is to eliminate mortal threats. That means to kill people if we are threatened to a level that we fear for our lives. You asked where someone lives that they need to carry a charged round. If you live somewhere that you don't need a charged round, then why are you carrying at all?
your the only person i know that has had this problem.. i own this gun and it has never done this to me? i even shoot hollows?... have you dropped it or something ??
find a gun made of metal not a polymer plastic type even if it is Ruger's pistol the plastic style weapons don't hold up try looking at the spring inside the slide it could be a faulty part just order a new one
@cortchubby the grip screw,ok where it that Ruger must have covered over with poly, THATS the problem. exuse my spelling I was too busy looking for the grip screw on my LCP
Pocket autos seem to have common reliability problems. I've seen issues with Kahr, Kel-Tec, Ruger, Walter, etc. A lot of problems with FTF or not returning to battery. I've also seems problems like yours too, where they come out of battery in the holster. At times you can fix the out of battery problems with a stronger recoil spring, try Wolff springs. I love pocket autos for convenience, but a J-frame revolver is better for reliability. 1 maybe shot or 5 good shots?
mine does the same thing thats why I HAVE to carry it with one in the chamber and push it foward before i put it in my pocket desantis superfly holster. It shoots fine no malfunctions after 450 rounds but still i wish it didnt force me to carry it with one in the chamber
Have you encountered any problems with a lot of movement at the heel or bottom of the magazine moving around a lot while firing. I have not gotten pinched but it is a little unsettling to me?
@catdoc541 That would not have stopped this from happening as the firearm was in full battery when holstered. It was pushed out of battery while driving to the range and/or setting up the shoot. Numb nuts.
@catdoc541 You are write I can't spell to good. I wish I knew it all,sorry if I ofended you. The LCP is a good gun don't be so hard on it. The new LC9 has too many safties on it,to be as good of a pocket pistol.
@bradleyrouse1 you can't blame the gun if the slide was pushed back doring holstering,mayby his thumb was numb not his nuts. or is it num,you get the jist.
Whenever you holster an auto pistol you would be wise to make sure the slide is forward (in battery) The issue you're having is can and does happen with many kinds of guns, more common with snug leather holsters that need to be broken in. At least this has been my experience.
@grizz474 That is good advice, although in this particular case, the firearm was in full battery when holstered. It came out of battery while driving to the range and setting up the shoot. By that time the new holster had loosened up and let the firearm stay out of battery when I drew the pistol.
This is not a proper function of the weapon. If you noticed the weapon cleared itself once you released the mag... this means something is getting hung up on the round at the top of the mag. Someone mentioned that this is normal for all semi-autos but I have never had this happen to any of my handguns(M&P 40, Glock 19,27,30, Springfield 1911, XDM 9) and remind everyone that if you remove your gun from your holster and try to fire it while not in full battery it will not work.
After watching this, I tried with mine. It does the exact same thing! Mine is brand new (2011). I give it a nudge with my thumb to lock all the way forward. Im showing the dealer tomorrow.
This is a user problem not a weapon problem. Its possible to do this with nearly any auto. Push the weapon in to the holster with your thumb on the back of the slide or get a better fitting holster. God's luck.
I hope you get it straightened out, a good cleaning and oiling will hopefully take care of the situation. On a side note, I wish the price of .380 ammo would come down!
That sucks dude I hope everything works out for you...I bought a lemon and it was a big disappointment. My kel tec p3at was a lemon...seems to me common with them however. Ruger seems like much higher quality in fit and finish
I was having this problem today at the range. At first it was shooting fine but after about 100 rounds it started catching like that. I am not sure if it was because it was dirty from the powder or if something was broken some where.
I had the same problem with my LCP ,but after three boxes(and 50 fte's and ftf's,and 3 cleanings) of the cheapest, dirties ammo walmart had to offer it hasn't had a hiccup in 400 rounds. You just gotta break it in.
i have a lcp , s&w m&p 9c and a glock 26 and ALL 3 if you pull the slide back alittle they ALL stick back alittle. the lcp is the worst but all 3 did the same thing
I can make mine stick out of battery just like yours, but it never happens when drawing (only when I purposely try to make it get stuck like that). When I'm drawing, I'm pulling the frame up. Any snagging or friction on the slide will cause the slide to be pulled forward (into battery), not backwards (and out of battery), so I really can't see how this could ever become an issue.
Anyway, I've heard polishing certain areas can fix this problem. It's never been an issue for me though.
I can't get my slide to stay out of position, I don't have the problem you all describe When I slightly pull the slide back it always goes back into position, I guess Im lucky
When I contacted Ruger in May of '09 they said that this was normal, thus there is nothing to fix. I don't know if that is still there position or not. It
did get better after a few hundred rounds but it didn't go away completely.
@catdoc541 Hmmmm thank you. Bummer. I dont think it is a huge problem because I cannot get the slide to stick back while being holstered... only when I force it into position with my hand. But still, it is a problem.
I have a brand new never shot Ruger LCP. My pistol is doing the EXACT same thing. I have not yet taken it in for a look at. I did however clean the whole gun and it is still doing this. Did you ever resolve this issue? Does it need to be "broken in"? Will Ruger address this issue or are we SOL? Thanks
@MrMindframe come on their not junk, get real, explain your experiences with the LCP. Body guard is good and more expensive, but I have the same amount of experience with it as you do the LCP So what do I know right?
Polish the slide a little where it sits on the round. Use some ultra fine steel wool or "maas" polish, then lube your gun, pay attention to the rails and barrell insert area.
be sure you have cycled at least 150 rounds through the chamber before you diagnose any problem. You don't have to fire them through. Once I did this (about 80 rounds) I haven't had any issues. Love my LCP.
Mine has the same issue with the slide. Luckily the way I pull it out of the holster the slide is always forward. Hopefully it doesnt get me killed when I need it most.
Mine does the same thing,when you holster the gun just put your thumb on the back of the slide when you push it in and it will stay in battery,I holster my glocks the same way
i just noticed mine does this too, its the slide shifting around while in your pocket/holster. no biggie. this gun was made with a light slide for weaker people to pull back.
I have a problem with my gun that needs to be cleaned. I bought it, fired it a few times, played with it some, and it seems to be hanging up. I know I should have cleaned the gun very well before I fired, but did not. I know I should clean it EVERY time I fire one round, but did not do that. I know to break in the barrel I should have cleaned the gun at least SIX times between firing and cool downs, I did not do that either. Does anyone out there have any ideas why Ruger makes such crap guns?
Shoot it 200 rounds, clean it, lube it, and you'll be fine. NEVER push the slide forward with your thumb. Natural tendancy is to pull with your trigger finger at the same time. Bad idea.
Mine do the same thing bro & i notticed that When its kind of slide like that bit it doesnt wanna shoot i have to tap it & put it in place for it to shoot did you fixed it? What was the problem? Excellent video by the way.....
poaeypark, i thought that the 371 or higher serial numbers had to do with the hammer modification. and catdog514, use royal purple to lubricate your 380, as well as all of your personal firearms. it works wonders and you will never ever have a weapon jam.
This would have to happen as you insert the pistol into the holster, wouldn't it? And then the slide should come forward again, in a tight fitting holster, as you pull it out again.
@catdoc541 I think you did well for your first video. You informed me on my question's. Keep making youtube video's. It does serve a purpose than teenagers trying to get famous. good luckfriend.
That little LCP is the perfect sized pocket pistol. Your video demonstrates, however, why a revolver is better (to me) for up close and personal work. I can shove my revolver into an adversary's gut, pull the trigger, and it will fire every time.
@enjoythewildUSA you think, a revolver can be disabled by grabing the cylinder, this keeps the gun from firing but on an auto you will get you hand ripped open when this is done
@barstoolguru .... I see your point. I once also had a problem during a live fire drill when the cylinder on my .38 failed to cycle. One of the Remington bullets was improperly seated in the casing. It jammed the gun up so I will concede that no system is infallible.
Also, you should never push the slide forward with your thumb. This is what they call a "bad habit" in training. If your slide isn't moving into battery properly, or is hanging up some how (out of the box especially), Call Ruger or take it to your gunsmith. It may just need to have a bit of material filed off the frame or the slide, it may be faulty. Guns are manufactured like anything else, and some times come off the line not working properly. You have to address it.
@Noeland While I agree that you generally should not try to force a firearm into battery, this was in battery and was just pushed out by the snug holster or myself for demonstration. Also, if you read the sidebar, I did call Ruger and they say that this is normal and they could not do any thing for me. Thanks for watching.
The reason the slide is coming slightly back when removing from the holster is due to the fact that your thumb should be on the back of the slide and pushed in. This insures the weapon is full battery. just a thought
Tiny sub compact guns like the LCP should always be disassembled and cleaned right after you fire them, and should never be carried unless they are clean, lubed, and free of build up. They have no tolerance in the trigger mechanisms or the slide/frame rails. I've stopped shooting on the range to clean them to continue firing. It's just part of owning a sub compact.
@Noeland You are exactly right. All firearms need a break in period and most folks do not enjoy the cleaning part. I left my lcp metal parts in the tumbler over night with walnut media. Smaller guns will be affected by build up much quicker than the big boys. They were never intended for running gun battles.
The video wasnt that bad ...good to know...i will keep at an eye...another real problem that you may have with this gun is hollow points not cycle properly when you manually rack the slide. I am going to test it tomorrow to see if it is an issue while shooting. DO NOT SHOOT SEMI WAD CUTTERS in this gun as they will jam every time. I MEAN EVERY TIME!!!
mine wont do that, i tried. I wonder if yours has a weak spring.. It must either be an issue with your gun or a weak spring. I tried to get mine to do what yours was doing and mine wont.I got the chrome one.
its just so light when you pull it out it takes the gun out of battery I guess. Start drawing it with your thumb over the back of the slide but still not what you wanna have to worry about if you were in a bad situation.
MIne does the same thing, especially when you insert a new mag and try close the slide. Even when I shoot it, for the first 2 or 3 shots, the slide won't close all the way after the recoil. I was told its the break-in period, but I've got 200 rounds through it and the gun still does it! Pisses me off!
Easy lankee, Relax. He's trying to help. It's not his fault that you are an uptight roid raging fucking asshole, and for this we should not blame you. Just put your tampon back in and go fuck yourself. PS, thanks for the video.
when you insert the pistol, have your thumb on the back of the slide so it doesn't go out of battery. when you pull it out, there's no way the slide will come back like that. so basically, there's nothing wrong with the gun, you're just an idiot.
I understand the jist of this as my Ruger P95 will do the same thing. When the gun is placed into the holster, it pushes the slide back about 1/4" or so. When the safety is on it will acually cock the hammer and hold at that position. The same can be reproduced by leaving the safety on and pulling the slide back gently. Unfortunatly I have not been able to find a solution other then decocker. The three conditions that have to occur are: Mag has to be in, safety on, slight slide pull.
Physics 101 on removing the gun from the holster will close the slide if it does happen to open. I been sitting placing my lcp in and out of my holster for the past week and this has NOT happened with mine. SHOW US in the video of you pulling your LCP from the holster and your slide being pulled back.
Well don't feel bad, your not the first one to misunderstand. If the holster is tight or under pressure from being between your waist band of your pants and your body when holstering, it can and DID push the slide back and thus put it into this condition. Then if you happen to be in a different position without much pressure on the gun when you draw from the holster, it will still be in the out of battery position.
LoL yes listen to the video, who's the idiot. It should not matter hoe he draws it or what his holster is doing. If it gets pulled back at all when he draws the spring tension should put the slide back in ready...
This video is a waste!! First of all if you are pulling the gun from a holster you are pulling the slide towards the front to close it. Make Sense? In the video you are pulling the slide back which when removing from the holster its pulling the slide closed. STOP MAKING VIDEOS IF YOU ARE NOT ACCURATE! DUMB ASS
@lankeeyankee dude it is widley known that this gun has a ton of problems plus this guy is just tryin to put out a video that lets people know what could happen there is no need for u to try to act all tough over the net like some child
im sure if it didnt happen he wouldnt have made this video
@bobwatters Hey ive 2000 rds through mine. Why dont you kiss my lazy ass. Ive been an officer for 4 years now and iyou may be your an arm chair warrior with lots of hitpoints but you can kiss my ass sir.
@timeperection A COP!!! O FUCK U MUST KNOW MORE ABOUT GUNS THAN ANYONE!!!! THATS WHY MOST COPS ARE KILLED BY THEIR OWN GUNS RIGHT B/C YALL ARE SUCH BADASSES!!!!
i dont have the gun and wouldnt wate the 350 i have heard to many bad things maybe u got lucky or maybe they are great but i aint trustin my life to so u feel free mr cop man
@timeperection lololol yea but you know what i respect our boys in blue but damn ur just somethin else i mean realy a rent a cop college was invented for a reson jackass and u dont go there to be a rent a cop
@bobwatters Whatever jackass. Just get a life. No matter what you say no one will ever respect you. Stop giveing people a hard time on there choices. I may not like but i would still protect your retarted ass.
Yeah the spring in the magazine is the major problem that causes jams especially in cheap guns. I doubt the magazine is pushing the bullet to high. if that were the case the lip of the magazine is just a bit to wide . I would contatc the maker a get another clip.
i just purchased this gun 3 day ago i took it to the range fired about 50 round through it it jammed every other shot or so very unreliable i was told you have to run 200 to 300 rounds through it for it to work correctly thats ubsurd i contacted ruger they said it can have to to with the mag pushing the bullets up to high or low but its a great size but very disappointed
that "little" problem could cost you your life. my advise would be to get a better quality firearm that has a higher chance of firing every time. my glocks, sig saur, and kimber have never had a mechanical failure, and I've put thousands of rounds through them. maintenance is also key to having a functioning firearm.
I agree that this could cost a life. I also have a Kimber that has never malfunctioned on me (knock on wood) But I am a small guy and it is hard to conceal much of a pistol on my person. That is why I bought the LCP. I am still exploring my options. Have even thought of carring a small wheel gun.
@catdoc541 size is definitely an issue when carrying concealed. may i suggest looking at the Beretta cheetah 84 chambered in .380. it's an excellent weapon and is great for concealment. i guess it comes down to personal choice, I'm just glad your smart enough to own firearms. good luck.
get a revolver! This is 2010 and we still cannot make a pocket auto??? Thats why I don't own one. I have a mint early model charter arms undercover .38 special. That might have 20 rounds through it. I would rather carry that than any pocket auto jam no fire o matic. Most of the time I carry my 1911 and I have no doubt that it will deliver if needed.....
There's nothing wrong with a wheel gun! You pull the trigger, it goes bang... As for the 1911, I have a Kimber that I love and has never had a problem but, I can't conceal it very well on my person.
@ResistanceOfAmerica you dont make sense. 1911s are known for jamming especially with hollow points. Mostly because of the magazine angle. This is a proven issue. Some 1911 makers have adressed this issue with slight alterations for more positive feed. Wheel guns can hang up too although more uncommon. a cylinder out of time and do some damage to you and destroy your guns. The bad guy would win that day. Glock would be a better choice for positive feeding without jams. Jams are rare with glocks.
Can you carry a wheel gun in your pocket? If so make a vid i wanna see this. If not shut the fuck up. Carrying this gun is better then nothing. A revolver is hard to carry if you have ever actually tryed it.
WTF ???? NO auto pistol should come out of battery that easily! In fact, you should have at LEAST 2mm of travel with it remaining in battery.
The more I see of the LCP, the less I like about it. I LOVE Ruger, and i worship my 22/45, but I think i'll be sticking with my Kel-Tec p32 and p3at: so far 0 FTF, 0 FTE. (i did fluff and buff it though)
that is wild that it comes out of battery like that so easily
I know it sounds like making up for the weapon's fault, but when holstering in a tight holster, could this problem be solved by keeping pressure on the butt of the slide with the thumb? I don't own one yet but thinking about it. Thanks
I have had this happen before when holstering a firearm in a tight holster. It will move the slide out of battery and you will be unable to fire. It's just a matter of keeping your thumb on the slide while holstering and it takes time for some holsters to stretch a little.
Not really a big problem as long as you are aware of it.
With less than 100rds, it is far from broken in but .380 was a little expensive/ hard to get when I got it. I am trying to get out and shoot it some more but schedules and weather are not helping me get it done.
i noticed the same problem on my lcp but it actually can be used as a safety when a round is in the chamber because it wont let the gun to be shot unless you push the slide forward. something about this gun having no safety is a little unnerving for me putting it in and out of my pocket while there is a round in the chamber so this "problem" can actually be used for added safety just get use to pushing the slide forward when it is drawn so your ready in the time of need
I just wanted to follow up, I installed 13# springs today and checked for this problem again and it would be nearly impossible to create this condition unintentionally. I never had the problem to begin with, but those who have tighter holsters I guess this would be a good fix for 99% of people.
Springs also reduce wear on the gun, and help follow up shots, so it's a good thing to have. The disadvantage is increased racking resistance, but if you're carrying one in the tube anyway not a problem
This should be happening when you actually put the gun into the holster. As you put it in, the slide will get pulled by the sides of the holster, worse if it's in your pocket since it is more compressed. This recoil spring isn't very strong and doesn't take a whole lot to cause the slide to move just a bit, at which point it can get hung, just as the chamber and barrel begin to drop. This happens with some other handguns as well, but the recoil spring is typically stronger. Buy Wolff 13# springs
mine does it. I wonder what would happen if you tried to fire it in this condition? also, the powerballs im using get a slice in the polymer tip when feeding. I think ill use the hornady's CD rounds because they are narrower.
thank, i just noticed that. I'm more worried about "smileys". So far, I have used powerball and Critical defense ammo and the feed ramp mutilates both upon recoil. I trust the powerball more becaus its just the polymer ball being cut, but the hornady's jacket gets pretty deformed and effects expansion. I hope when I take the lcp to the range, the fmj rounds will smooth out this problem, or else ill have a gun that mutilates ammo before its even shot. This really bothers me.
Also, I have found that the powerball(70g/1100fps) penetrates deeper than the Critical Defense round(90g/1000fps). The critical defense had more expansion, both rounds held together. I like the way the hornady round expands on muscle type matter after penetrating harder material. These are truly technologically superior rounds that keep the .380 in the fight (no pun intended).
Day 3 with the LCP. I witnessed a strange occurence. I came home from work, popped the mag, ejected the round chambered and placed it back in the mag. I then noticed I only had 5 rounds in my mag. I racked the slide and another round came out. I have never seen this before in my life. Im hoping I made a mistake in not releasing the mag first, but I know I did, as Ive been doing this for years. The only conclusion I can deduce is the feed ramp dug into the powerball tip and stuck.
@Blanckmeister uh nothing would happen and you would be sitting there with a gun that doesnt fire, luckily they make the PM9 and you can have a gun this size that actually works. RUGER makes what it makes well and this is not one of them yet it seems, but with such a great alternative i dont know why one would mess with this thing?
Is that a kel-tec? I think the only other pocket pistol ill buy is a 1908 hammerless if I can find a good deal. There was a U.S. General Officer model at the Valley forge Gun show last Sep. and dude wanted $700. I only brought $500. Sucks.
when I first got it, the same thing happened. didn't bother Me much since just slight thumb pressure or flick of the wist corrects it. NO IT WILL NOT FIRE WITH THE SLIDE BACK LIKE THAT. As the gun broke in, it stuck less and less and now not at all. unless I do it on purpose, then it still won't stay like that. So Break it in, if that doesn't help( If it even bothers you) Get #13 springs as suggested. It didn't bother Me as I was used to similar from Glocks and XDs in bradnew holsters.
1500 and No FTFs or FTEs. Using all types of ammo. Even Magsafe, witch I read hundreds of people reporting problems with that ammo. So all I can say is I Love the 2 I have. Mini Perfection. But Mine is a really new batch too. the serial number starts with "373" so maybe most of the kinks are worked out
I noticed that mine did that as well, I was just pulling the slid back to check the "chambered" status and I saw that the slide did not go back to it's fully ready position. The more i've shot the pistol, the better this seems to be - but it is something to be aware of. Good Video.
i got the lcp and love the gun... i carry it with me everday in extream enviroments... i try to keep it clean and thats imposible with the conditions i work in.... but my gun dose it too some times..
This is where 1911 style safeties like the ruger sr9 has come in hand. I know most people laugh at the idea of putting a 1911 saftey on a gun like that LCP. But do you want your damn slide to stay locked when pushed against holsters or not?
Hey, there is no way that the slide is doing that because of drawing from a holster. It is how you are inserting into the holster. I know a military firearms instructor, he trains to put a thumb on the slide ONLY when index finger is outside trigger guard of course, and only when holstering because any semi-auto can have slide movement and racking when holstering. Be advised that if you pull the trigger your thumb will essentially be gone, but it appears to be a safe way to holster.
How exactly are you drawing the pistol? I would think as you were pulling the pistol out a snug fitting holster that it would pull on the slide and put it back into battery, not the other way around. You have to pull back on the slide slightly it seems to create this, but the force of pull should be forward on the slide when drawing out of a holster.
Humm, well that "non-problem" certainly gives me pause about buying one! I wouldn't want to have that when I'm pulling it out to defend my life! You listening Ruger?
I just duplicated this on my LCP. This seems to be caused by the magazine spring presure pushing up on rounds. Without one in the pipe and bullets in the clip, I could not get it to stay out of battery.
I noticed my ruger lcp did the same thing. but I didn't see it as a big problem, I just use my thumb and push it back into place. not a big deal. Ive put about 200 rounds through it with no problems. it one of my favorites . love it. thanks
there is no way the slide comes BACK when drawing from the holster. The gun is getting pushed out of battery while pushing it into the tight holster, can happen to any gun. Support the back of the slide with your thumb while holstering it.
Ruger said they were aware of this but it was just something that the gun did. The lady never called it a "problem " And since there is nothing wrong with it they can't fix it.
boy I'm glad I came back to to this video. thx for the idea of getting a stronger spring. mine was doing this as well. more with critical defense than pdx1 though. the round in the top of the magazine inches forward a little. presumably due to some slide movement. when the round moves forward enough, the slide won't lockup anymore because it rubs the underside of the chambered round.
yz9890 1 month ago
@yz9890 The stronger spring is the best thing I have done. I think it may have more to do with the recoil spring overcoming the pressure put on the rim of the casing from the extractor. It cycles the PDX1 better because its hotter, so there is an increase in slide speed, which helps feeding. A 13lb will give you a nice tight lockup, and cycle everthing better. Good luck to you.
rockin870 1 month ago
@yz9890 Also polishing the feedramp helps
rockin870 1 month ago
i would suggest that you not carry a plus one round. if u need it just pull and charge it. but theres a downside to that as im sure ur aware of.
sgtmasters 1 month ago
@sgtmasters Look at FBI crime stats and/or talk to a few police officers, they all suggest that an armed attack happens in a few seconds. Thus, it is better to shave off the extra time of racking the slide.
catdoc541 1 month ago
cekirk1 is right. If you add a #13 recoil sring made by Wolff, it will clear up the slide issue. It can be ordered from Brownells for like $13 (shipping included). The 9lb spring ruger uses is too weak for a tight lockup. They use a light spring so women can rack the slide(my opinion), but it leads to reliability issues. My LCP took a good amount of work to be trusted (low serial number), but now it gets carried everday.
rockin870 2 months ago
solution: get a pocket clip on the gun to replace the holster. With that trigger pull being so hard, you won't have an issue with safety.
tiasboi3able 3 months ago
Buy a 12 or 13 pound WOLF EXTRA POWER RECOIL SPRING and kiss this problem GOOD BYE!!!!!!!!!
cekirk1 3 months ago
i have an lcp and same thing was going on with it i sold it and got me an xd 9
718brooks 4 months ago
I would try loosening up the holster. Every time I get some new leather I wrap the gun in saran wrap to make it thicker all the way around and let it sit in the holster a couple days.
DelThaFunkyBostonian 5 months ago
Okay people. I can't keep silent about the foolishness I'm reading on this comment page. A defensive pistol *MUST* be able to be carried with the chamber loaded. Don't babble about how little time it takes to rack. There's a good chance that if you're drawing the pistol in self-defense, you'll *need* that off hand to fend off an attack. Keep your finger off the trigger; that's all the safety you need. If this gun can go of from being dropped, it's an inferior design. Buy another gun.
Oxoxzxe 5 months ago
boy I wouldn't carry a firearm that wasn't chambered. I'm not sure what training you received that taught you that but you need to be able to fire that weapon with one hand if necessary as soon as you can put it on target. within the effective range of the LCP, you've likely got no time to chamber it first.
yz9890 5 months ago
Alright folks, time for a reality check. Basic safety....don't carry it in the holster with a round in the chamber. If you bothered to read the manual that comes with that gun, it clearly states not to carry it charged with a round in the chamber. The problem you are having will go away if you follow basic safety protocols. You have created the problem.
Just like you don't put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot, don't carry with the chamber charged
Thenewkid691 7 months ago
Where are you that you need to have the chamber charged? As you draw that gun you can rack it as you draw it up, you wont lose but a fraction of a second doing so, and when the slide fall forward it will seat properly.
You can also use what you are seeing as a plus. Its a great way to tell if there is a round in the chamber. The gun does have a visual place to see the round, but in the dark you can tell by pulling the slide back a bit. if it sticks, the chamber is charged.
Thenewkid691 7 months ago
This is not the gun to carry hot. It has no safety, they only safety is an empty barrel. Ruger also warns it can go off if dropped, they even recalled a bunch of them because of that. This is also in the manual.
Best practice, carry it with nothing in the chamber and un-cocked. A little practice at drawing and racking, and this is a great gun. If you are not willing to follow the rule and practice, give the gun to someone else.
Not trying to be rude, trying to be safe. Thanks
Thenewkid691 7 months ago
@Thenewkid691 For anyone reading this guys comment about don't carry a gun with a round chambered is absolute bullshit. The couple seconds it takes you to rack the slide is what is going to cost you your life in a defensive situation.The double action trigger pull on the first shot of the LCP is like a revolver, and it is the reason it has no safety. The LCP is perfectly safe to carry with a round chambered.
DelThaFunkyBostonian 5 months ago 2
@Thenewkid691 I'm sorry if this seems rude, it really isn't meant to be. It seems you are terribly naive about the reason we carry concealed in the first place. It isn't to be cowboys playing with firearms. It is to eliminate mortal threats. That means to kill people if we are threatened to a level that we fear for our lives. You asked where someone lives that they need to carry a charged round. If you live somewhere that you don't need a charged round, then why are you carrying at all?
ausable92 4 months ago
lets see it after atleast 500 rounds through it. that slide should slide like butter..good vid keep em comin
phishintube 7 months ago
your the only person i know that has had this problem.. i own this gun and it has never done this to me? i even shoot hollows?... have you dropped it or something ??
shitsinpants420 7 months ago
find a gun made of metal not a polymer plastic type even if it is Ruger's pistol the plastic style weapons don't hold up try looking at the spring inside the slide it could be a faulty part just order a new one
MrJujinko 8 months ago
@cortchubby the grip screw,ok where it that Ruger must have covered over with poly, THATS the problem. exuse my spelling I was too busy looking for the grip screw on my LCP
joegun357 8 months ago
Lube the crap out of that slide
hurricanegame73 9 months ago
Pocket autos seem to have common reliability problems. I've seen issues with Kahr, Kel-Tec, Ruger, Walter, etc. A lot of problems with FTF or not returning to battery. I've also seems problems like yours too, where they come out of battery in the holster. At times you can fix the out of battery problems with a stronger recoil spring, try Wolff springs. I love pocket autos for convenience, but a J-frame revolver is better for reliability. 1 maybe shot or 5 good shots?
docbrazen 9 months ago
mine does the same thing thats why I HAVE to carry it with one in the chamber and push it foward before i put it in my pocket desantis superfly holster. It shoots fine no malfunctions after 450 rounds but still i wish it didnt force me to carry it with one in the chamber
obend52 9 months ago
MBcon18, dude its a plastic gun. How is he gona polish the plastic.
93foxwcubes 9 months ago
Have you encountered any problems with a lot of movement at the heel or bottom of the magazine moving around a lot while firing. I have not gotten pinched but it is a little unsettling to me?
ketamine4u 9 months ago
I would shoot a couple hundred rounds, then look for worn spots. Then polish those places, and file a little at a time if needed.
MBCon18 9 months ago
are you kidding me, when you put it in holster make sure it's in full battery "num nuts"
joegun357 9 months ago
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catdoc541 9 months ago
@catdoc541 That would not have stopped this from happening as the firearm was in full battery when holstered. It was pushed out of battery while driving to the range and/or setting up the shoot. Numb nuts.
catdoc541 9 months ago
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bradleyrouse1 8 months ago
@catdoc541 You are write I can't spell to good. I wish I knew it all,sorry if I ofended you. The LCP is a good gun don't be so hard on it. The new LC9 has too many safties on it,to be as good of a pocket pistol.
joegun357 8 months ago
@joegun357 Numb is the correct spelling. Are you kidding me? FYI nobody likes a know-it-all.
bradleyrouse1 8 months ago
@bradleyrouse1 you can't blame the gun if the slide was pushed back doring holstering,mayby his thumb was numb not his nuts. or is it num,you get the jist.
joegun357 8 months ago
Oh, by the way, take it to a competent gunsmith and you should at least get an answer.
MrBigden37 10 months ago
@MrBigden37 Ruger states that this is "normal".
catdoc541 9 months ago 2
It seems like it doesn't have a recoil spring or very dead one. The slide should move slick on the frame.
MrBigden37 10 months ago
Whenever you holster an auto pistol you would be wise to make sure the slide is forward (in battery) The issue you're having is can and does happen with many kinds of guns, more common with snug leather holsters that need to be broken in. At least this has been my experience.
grizz474 10 months ago
@grizz474 That is good advice, although in this particular case, the firearm was in full battery when holstered. It came out of battery while driving to the range and setting up the shoot. By that time the new holster had loosened up and let the firearm stay out of battery when I drew the pistol.
catdoc541 9 months ago
This is not a proper function of the weapon. If you noticed the weapon cleared itself once you released the mag... this means something is getting hung up on the round at the top of the mag. Someone mentioned that this is normal for all semi-autos but I have never had this happen to any of my handguns(M&P 40, Glock 19,27,30, Springfield 1911, XDM 9) and remind everyone that if you remove your gun from your holster and try to fire it while not in full battery it will not work.
chrizzis77 11 months ago
After watching this, I tried with mine. It does the exact same thing! Mine is brand new (2011). I give it a nudge with my thumb to lock all the way forward. Im showing the dealer tomorrow.
JonnyUTSA 11 months ago
@JonnyUTSA show what to dealer? that you know nothing about guns or how to holster them, just keep thumb on back of slide so it stays in battery
joegun357 9 months ago
This is a user problem not a weapon problem. Its possible to do this with nearly any auto. Push the weapon in to the holster with your thumb on the back of the slide or get a better fitting holster. God's luck.
joninwv 11 months ago 2
I hope you get it straightened out, a good cleaning and oiling will hopefully take care of the situation. On a side note, I wish the price of .380 ammo would come down!
charger19691 1 year ago
Did cleaning fix it?
ctrappeiowa 1 year ago
That sucks dude I hope everything works out for you...I bought a lemon and it was a big disappointment. My kel tec p3at was a lemon...seems to me common with them however. Ruger seems like much higher quality in fit and finish
BillyJackson570 1 year ago
I was having this problem today at the range. At first it was shooting fine but after about 100 rounds it started catching like that. I am not sure if it was because it was dirty from the powder or if something was broken some where.
If u have info on this let me know.
TheConservativeArmy 1 year ago
I had the same problem with my LCP ,but after three boxes(and 50 fte's and ftf's,and 3 cleanings) of the cheapest, dirties ammo walmart had to offer it hasn't had a hiccup in 400 rounds. You just gotta break it in.
ceebusrockcity 1 year ago
i have a lcp , s&w m&p 9c and a glock 26 and ALL 3 if you pull the slide back alittle they ALL stick back alittle. the lcp is the worst but all 3 did the same thing
GREEDY602 1 year ago
I can make mine stick out of battery just like yours, but it never happens when drawing (only when I purposely try to make it get stuck like that). When I'm drawing, I'm pulling the frame up. Any snagging or friction on the slide will cause the slide to be pulled forward (into battery), not backwards (and out of battery), so I really can't see how this could ever become an issue.
Anyway, I've heard polishing certain areas can fix this problem. It's never been an issue for me though.
diggingforgold 1 year ago
I can't get my slide to stay out of position, I don't have the problem you all describe When I slightly pull the slide back it always goes back into position, I guess Im lucky
Gordondon 1 year ago
When I contacted Ruger in May of '09 they said that this was normal, thus there is nothing to fix. I don't know if that is still there position or not. It
did get better after a few hundred rounds but it didn't go away completely.
catdoc541 1 year ago
@catdoc541 Hmmmm thank you. Bummer. I dont think it is a huge problem because I cannot get the slide to stick back while being holstered... only when I force it into position with my hand. But still, it is a problem.
StealthyTyler0425 1 year ago
I have a brand new never shot Ruger LCP. My pistol is doing the EXACT same thing. I have not yet taken it in for a look at. I did however clean the whole gun and it is still doing this. Did you ever resolve this issue? Does it need to be "broken in"? Will Ruger address this issue or are we SOL? Thanks
StealthyTyler0425 1 year ago
junk, thats why I bought bodyguard 380
MrMindframe 1 year ago
@MrMindframe Slide stays back on last round, comes with lazer, very good gun.. 500+ rounds so far. no problems and I carry everyday..
MrMindframe 1 year ago
@MrMindframe come on their not junk, get real, explain your experiences with the LCP. Body guard is good and more expensive, but I have the same amount of experience with it as you do the LCP So what do I know right?
Gordondon 1 year ago
Polish the slide a little where it sits on the round. Use some ultra fine steel wool or "maas" polish, then lube your gun, pay attention to the rails and barrell insert area.
gymowner123 1 year ago
be sure you have cycled at least 150 rounds through the chamber before you diagnose any problem. You don't have to fire them through. Once I did this (about 80 rounds) I haven't had any issues. Love my LCP.
slruest 1 year ago
Mine has the same issue with the slide. Luckily the way I pull it out of the holster the slide is always forward. Hopefully it doesnt get me killed when I need it most.
shortylickens69 1 year ago
try some federal hollow points they feed perfectly in my lcp
kwakp8man 1 year ago
Mine does the same thing,when you holster the gun just put your thumb on the back of the slide when you push it in and it will stay in battery,I holster my glocks the same way
never had a problem whit them tho.
mcrafton89 1 year ago
i just noticed mine does this too, its the slide shifting around while in your pocket/holster. no biggie. this gun was made with a light slide for weaker people to pull back.
AK47AR15GLOCK40 1 year ago
I have a problem with my gun that needs to be cleaned. I bought it, fired it a few times, played with it some, and it seems to be hanging up. I know I should have cleaned the gun very well before I fired, but did not. I know I should clean it EVERY time I fire one round, but did not do that. I know to break in the barrel I should have cleaned the gun at least SIX times between firing and cool downs, I did not do that either. Does anyone out there have any ideas why Ruger makes such crap guns?
chopperkeith 1 year ago
Just rack the slide alot of times(50-100),and then put some rounds through it... That should take care of it... It just needs to be broken in!!!!
Sniperman1964 1 year ago
Shoot it 200 rounds, clean it, lube it, and you'll be fine. NEVER push the slide forward with your thumb. Natural tendancy is to pull with your trigger finger at the same time. Bad idea.
asams10 1 year ago
Mine do the same thing bro & i notticed that When its kind of slide like that bit it doesnt wanna shoot i have to tap it & put it in place for it to shoot did you fixed it? What was the problem? Excellent video by the way.....
Crazybarber21 1 year ago
catdoc541 was only talking about a non evasive non-defensive situation.. i also found this issue only with clip in!
freako2697 1 year ago
poaeypark, i thought that the 371 or higher serial numbers had to do with the hammer modification. and catdog514, use royal purple to lubricate your 380, as well as all of your personal firearms. it works wonders and you will never ever have a weapon jam.
ThrowedOffInk 1 year ago
This would have to happen as you insert the pistol into the holster, wouldn't it? And then the slide should come forward again, in a tight fitting holster, as you pull it out again.
vyxaer 1 year ago
if your serial # is 371 & higher DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT .
poaeypark 1 year ago
@poaeypark This has nothing to do with the safety recall.
catdoc541 1 year ago
@catdoc541 I think you did well for your first video. You informed me on my question's. Keep making youtube video's. It does serve a purpose than teenagers trying to get famous. good luckfriend.
GORNWINDER1 1 year ago
@poaeypark
i just bought an lcp with serial 374 and i have the same issue???
jcrice88 1 year ago
you have REALLY REALLY big hands
911mykidsdead 1 year ago
I got mine two days ago and ran 50 round threw it and no probs
barstoolguru 1 year ago
I just hold the slide forward with my thumb as I push the gun into the holster. seems to cure the issue.
turbotechnique 1 year ago
That little LCP is the perfect sized pocket pistol. Your video demonstrates, however, why a revolver is better (to me) for up close and personal work. I can shove my revolver into an adversary's gut, pull the trigger, and it will fire every time.
enjoythewildUSA 1 year ago
@enjoythewildUSA you think, a revolver can be disabled by grabing the cylinder, this keeps the gun from firing but on an auto you will get you hand ripped open when this is done
barstoolguru 1 year ago
@barstoolguru .... I see your point. I once also had a problem during a live fire drill when the cylinder on my .38 failed to cycle. One of the Remington bullets was improperly seated in the casing. It jammed the gun up so I will concede that no system is infallible.
enjoythewildUSA 1 year ago
Also, you should never push the slide forward with your thumb. This is what they call a "bad habit" in training. If your slide isn't moving into battery properly, or is hanging up some how (out of the box especially), Call Ruger or take it to your gunsmith. It may just need to have a bit of material filed off the frame or the slide, it may be faulty. Guns are manufactured like anything else, and some times come off the line not working properly. You have to address it.
Noeland 1 year ago
@Noeland While I agree that you generally should not try to force a firearm into battery, this was in battery and was just pushed out by the snug holster or myself for demonstration. Also, if you read the sidebar, I did call Ruger and they say that this is normal and they could not do any thing for me. Thanks for watching.
catdoc541 1 year ago 4
The reason the slide is coming slightly back when removing from the holster is due to the fact that your thumb should be on the back of the slide and pushed in. This insures the weapon is full battery. just a thought
campcomp00 1 year ago
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Noeland 1 year ago
Tiny sub compact guns like the LCP should always be disassembled and cleaned right after you fire them, and should never be carried unless they are clean, lubed, and free of build up. They have no tolerance in the trigger mechanisms or the slide/frame rails. I've stopped shooting on the range to clean them to continue firing. It's just part of owning a sub compact.
Noeland 1 year ago
@Noeland You are exactly right. All firearms need a break in period and most folks do not enjoy the cleaning part. I left my lcp metal parts in the tumbler over night with walnut media. Smaller guns will be affected by build up much quicker than the big boys. They were never intended for running gun battles.
jonboat2 1 year ago
The video wasnt that bad ...good to know...i will keep at an eye...another real problem that you may have with this gun is hollow points not cycle properly when you manually rack the slide. I am going to test it tomorrow to see if it is an issue while shooting. DO NOT SHOOT SEMI WAD CUTTERS in this gun as they will jam every time. I MEAN EVERY TIME!!!
golandmark 1 year ago
mine wont do that, i tried. I wonder if yours has a weak spring.. It must either be an issue with your gun or a weak spring. I tried to get mine to do what yours was doing and mine wont.I got the chrome one.
monsterman27 1 year ago
My LCP has never had this problem. It does not make sense.
Brent376 1 year ago
Good video, I cant believe some people dont understand what you are talking about.
BestTits 1 year ago
its just so light when you pull it out it takes the gun out of battery I guess. Start drawing it with your thumb over the back of the slide but still not what you wanna have to worry about if you were in a bad situation.
Nicho2177 1 year ago
MIne does the same thing, especially when you insert a new mag and try close the slide. Even when I shoot it, for the first 2 or 3 shots, the slide won't close all the way after the recoil. I was told its the break-in period, but I've got 200 rounds through it and the gun still does it! Pisses me off!
bigwilliegabbard 1 year ago
Easy lankee, Relax. He's trying to help. It's not his fault that you are an uptight roid raging fucking asshole, and for this we should not blame you. Just put your tampon back in and go fuck yourself. PS, thanks for the video.
39theone 1 year ago
when you insert the pistol, have your thumb on the back of the slide so it doesn't go out of battery. when you pull it out, there's no way the slide will come back like that. so basically, there's nothing wrong with the gun, you're just an idiot.
jfizzay 1 year ago
Did cleaning it fix the problem? I don't see a follow up video...
1PATRI0T 1 year ago
its not the LCP its the hornaday critical defence ammo its great in other guns but sux in the lcp , it shouldnt do that with any other ammo....
1halfpound 1 year ago
BAD RECOIL SPRING???
dannyfivefifty 1 year ago
cause its loaded my friend!just push it all the way!
dtc2125 1 year ago
I understand the jist of this as my Ruger P95 will do the same thing. When the gun is placed into the holster, it pushes the slide back about 1/4" or so. When the safety is on it will acually cock the hammer and hold at that position. The same can be reproduced by leaving the safety on and pulling the slide back gently. Unfortunatly I have not been able to find a solution other then decocker. The three conditions that have to occur are: Mag has to be in, safety on, slight slide pull.
MrLovelog 1 year ago
Physics 101 on removing the gun from the holster will close the slide if it does happen to open. I been sitting placing my lcp in and out of my holster for the past week and this has NOT happened with mine. SHOW US in the video of you pulling your LCP from the holster and your slide being pulled back.
lankeeyankee 1 year ago
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Show us what you mean, Draw it from your holster and show us how your slide is back. I cant stand idiots!
lankeeyankee 2 years ago
Well don't feel bad, your not the first one to misunderstand. If the holster is tight or under pressure from being between your waist band of your pants and your body when holstering, it can and DID push the slide back and thus put it into this condition. Then if you happen to be in a different position without much pressure on the gun when you draw from the holster, it will still be in the out of battery position.
catdoc541 2 years ago
@catdoc541 .380 will have a weaker slide spring as it is a smaller caliber. It is part of the design of a .380. Good info for what to watch for.
frankgon4 1 year ago
@lankeeyankee
LoL yes listen to the video, who's the idiot. It should not matter hoe he draws it or what his holster is doing. If it gets pulled back at all when he draws the spring tension should put the slide back in ready...
Scstyle7 1 year ago
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This video is a waste!! First of all if you are pulling the gun from a holster you are pulling the slide towards the front to close it. Make Sense? In the video you are pulling the slide back which when removing from the holster its pulling the slide closed. STOP MAKING VIDEOS IF YOU ARE NOT ACCURATE! DUMB ASS
lankeeyankee 2 years ago
Calm down and listen to the video...
catdoc541 2 years ago 2
ya your right the if you pull the gun out it should close
kingbigdawg9 1 year ago
@lankeeyankee dude it is widley known that this gun has a ton of problems plus this guy is just tryin to put out a video that lets people know what could happen there is no need for u to try to act all tough over the net like some child
im sure if it didnt happen he wouldnt have made this video
bobwatters 1 year ago
@bobwatters please show us some evidence?
timeperection 1 year ago
@timeperection why dont u get ur lazy ass to type a few things into a search bar and see for yourslef b/c i realy dont care if u believe me
bobwatters 1 year ago
@bobwatters Hey ive 2000 rds through mine. Why dont you kiss my lazy ass. Ive been an officer for 4 years now and iyou may be your an arm chair warrior with lots of hitpoints but you can kiss my ass sir.
timeperection 1 year ago
@timeperection A COP!!! O FUCK U MUST KNOW MORE ABOUT GUNS THAN ANYONE!!!! THATS WHY MOST COPS ARE KILLED BY THEIR OWN GUNS RIGHT B/C YALL ARE SUCH BADASSES!!!!
i dont have the gun and wouldnt wate the 350 i have heard to many bad things maybe u got lucky or maybe they are great but i aint trustin my life to so u feel free mr cop man
bobwatters 1 year ago
@bobwatters Dont be mad cause your retarted ass is mall rent a cop and they dont allow you guns.
timeperection 1 year ago
@timeperection lololol yea but you know what i respect our boys in blue but damn ur just somethin else i mean realy a rent a cop college was invented for a reson jackass and u dont go there to be a rent a cop
bobwatters 1 year ago
@bobwatters Whatever jackass. Just get a life. No matter what you say no one will ever respect you. Stop giveing people a hard time on there choices. I may not like but i would still protect your retarted ass.
timeperection 1 year ago
@timeperection actualy plenty of people that know me respect me
but think what u want about me atleast ur mature enough to not let this stupid argument stop u from doin ur duty although i dont realy need protecting
bobwatters 1 year ago
I could only duplicate that problem when I topped off the magazine after chambering 1..
Couple of things you can do if it really bothers you:
Polish the bottom of your slide that rides over the bullets in the mag, That's a very simple fix.
Don't top off your mag after racking one in the chamber. Easier fix.
Or don't worry about it. Why? Because the pressure you put on the slide while holstering it causing this to happen is REVERSED when you pull it OUT .
dogbert41 2 years ago
Great video and a good warning to guys who carry this gun (I am one of them). Thank you. I will be giving my Ruger a thorough test as soon as I can.
Mattsplat1975 2 years ago
Yeah the spring in the magazine is the major problem that causes jams especially in cheap guns. I doubt the magazine is pushing the bullet to high. if that were the case the lip of the magazine is just a bit to wide . I would contatc the maker a get another clip.
infowars69 2 years ago
i just purchased this gun 3 day ago i took it to the range fired about 50 round through it it jammed every other shot or so very unreliable i was told you have to run 200 to 300 rounds through it for it to work correctly thats ubsurd i contacted ruger they said it can have to to with the mag pushing the bullets up to high or low but its a great size but very disappointed
braindeniro77 2 years ago
that "little" problem could cost you your life. my advise would be to get a better quality firearm that has a higher chance of firing every time. my glocks, sig saur, and kimber have never had a mechanical failure, and I've put thousands of rounds through them. maintenance is also key to having a functioning firearm.
mdjbm 2 years ago
I agree that this could cost a life. I also have a Kimber that has never malfunctioned on me (knock on wood) But I am a small guy and it is hard to conceal much of a pistol on my person. That is why I bought the LCP. I am still exploring my options. Have even thought of carring a small wheel gun.
catdoc541 2 years ago
@catdoc541 size is definitely an issue when carrying concealed. may i suggest looking at the Beretta cheetah 84 chambered in .380. it's an excellent weapon and is great for concealment. i guess it comes down to personal choice, I'm just glad your smart enough to own firearms. good luck.
mdjbm 2 years ago
get a revolver! This is 2010 and we still cannot make a pocket auto??? Thats why I don't own one. I have a mint early model charter arms undercover .38 special. That might have 20 rounds through it. I would rather carry that than any pocket auto jam no fire o matic. Most of the time I carry my 1911 and I have no doubt that it will deliver if needed.....
ResistanceOfAmerica 2 years ago
There's nothing wrong with a wheel gun! You pull the trigger, it goes bang... As for the 1911, I have a Kimber that I love and has never had a problem but, I can't conceal it very well on my person.
catdoc541 2 years ago
if you support revolvers so much why do you carry a 1911?
tlbjbjb 2 years ago
@ResistanceOfAmerica you dont make sense. 1911s are known for jamming especially with hollow points. Mostly because of the magazine angle. This is a proven issue. Some 1911 makers have adressed this issue with slight alterations for more positive feed. Wheel guns can hang up too although more uncommon. a cylinder out of time and do some damage to you and destroy your guns. The bad guy would win that day. Glock would be a better choice for positive feeding without jams. Jams are rare with glocks.
monsterman27 1 year ago
@ResistanceOfAmerica yea i Open Carry a glock 21 .45 acp woldn't mind a a small back up that i can carry on my ankle tho
Pitviper4Gunrights 1 year ago
@ResistanceOfAmerica
Can you carry a wheel gun in your pocket? If so make a vid i wanna see this. If not shut the fuck up. Carrying this gun is better then nothing. A revolver is hard to carry if you have ever actually tryed it.
timeperection 1 year ago
Nicely done for your first video.
MrCntrybyWlkr 2 years ago
WTF ???? NO auto pistol should come out of battery that easily! In fact, you should have at LEAST 2mm of travel with it remaining in battery.
The more I see of the LCP, the less I like about it. I LOVE Ruger, and i worship my 22/45, but I think i'll be sticking with my Kel-Tec p32 and p3at: so far 0 FTF, 0 FTE. (i did fluff and buff it though)
that is wild that it comes out of battery like that so easily
sonick808 2 years ago
A spring that is too heavy will also increase feeding malfunctions. You could always take the pistol to a gunsmith. When you're sick, see a doctor.
IREALYLOVEGUNS 2 years ago
See side bar: Ruger Factory says it is normal.
catdoc541 2 years ago
I know it sounds like making up for the weapon's fault, but when holstering in a tight holster, could this problem be solved by keeping pressure on the butt of the slide with the thumb? I don't own one yet but thinking about it. Thanks
charlitunaman2002 2 years ago
after seeing that i dunno. Seems like you'd be better served by a P3AT, or testing one of the 500 new pocket rockets that came out at SHOT this year.
sonick808 2 years ago
I have had this happen before when holstering a firearm in a tight holster. It will move the slide out of battery and you will be unable to fire. It's just a matter of keeping your thumb on the slide while holstering and it takes time for some holsters to stretch a little.
Not really a big problem as long as you are aware of it.
mva1985 2 years ago
Approximately how many rounds have you put through it?
kbilyak04 2 years ago
With less than 100rds, it is far from broken in but .380 was a little expensive/ hard to get when I got it. I am trying to get out and shoot it some more but schedules and weather are not helping me get it done.
catdoc541 2 years ago
i noticed the same problem on my lcp but it actually can be used as a safety when a round is in the chamber because it wont let the gun to be shot unless you push the slide forward. something about this gun having no safety is a little unnerving for me putting it in and out of my pocket while there is a round in the chamber so this "problem" can actually be used for added safety just get use to pushing the slide forward when it is drawn so your ready in the time of need
wickedarachnid666 2 years ago
your brain and your trigger finger are your safeties.
This is absolutely ridiculous to think having a slide come out of battery as a safety.
mva1985 2 years ago
I just wanted to follow up, I installed 13# springs today and checked for this problem again and it would be nearly impossible to create this condition unintentionally. I never had the problem to begin with, but those who have tighter holsters I guess this would be a good fix for 99% of people.
Springs also reduce wear on the gun, and help follow up shots, so it's a good thing to have. The disadvantage is increased racking resistance, but if you're carrying one in the tube anyway not a problem
GT4604 2 years ago
This should be happening when you actually put the gun into the holster. As you put it in, the slide will get pulled by the sides of the holster, worse if it's in your pocket since it is more compressed. This recoil spring isn't very strong and doesn't take a whole lot to cause the slide to move just a bit, at which point it can get hung, just as the chamber and barrel begin to drop. This happens with some other handguns as well, but the recoil spring is typically stronger. Buy Wolff 13# springs
GT4604 2 years ago
mine does it. I wonder what would happen if you tried to fire it in this condition? also, the powerballs im using get a slice in the polymer tip when feeding. I think ill use the hornady's CD rounds because they are narrower.
Blanckmeister 2 years ago
It will not fire in this condition. I use Hornady Critical Defense rounds and they have worked fine. Thanks for watching.
catdoc541 2 years ago
thank, i just noticed that. I'm more worried about "smileys". So far, I have used powerball and Critical defense ammo and the feed ramp mutilates both upon recoil. I trust the powerball more becaus its just the polymer ball being cut, but the hornady's jacket gets pretty deformed and effects expansion. I hope when I take the lcp to the range, the fmj rounds will smooth out this problem, or else ill have a gun that mutilates ammo before its even shot. This really bothers me.
Blanckmeister 2 years ago
Also, I have found that the powerball(70g/1100fps) penetrates deeper than the Critical Defense round(90g/1000fps). The critical defense had more expansion, both rounds held together. I like the way the hornady round expands on muscle type matter after penetrating harder material. These are truly technologically superior rounds that keep the .380 in the fight (no pun intended).
Blanckmeister 2 years ago
Day 3 with the LCP. I witnessed a strange occurence. I came home from work, popped the mag, ejected the round chambered and placed it back in the mag. I then noticed I only had 5 rounds in my mag. I racked the slide and another round came out. I have never seen this before in my life. Im hoping I made a mistake in not releasing the mag first, but I know I did, as Ive been doing this for years. The only conclusion I can deduce is the feed ramp dug into the powerball tip and stuck.
Blanckmeister 2 years ago
@Blanckmeister uh nothing would happen and you would be sitting there with a gun that doesnt fire, luckily they make the PM9 and you can have a gun this size that actually works. RUGER makes what it makes well and this is not one of them yet it seems, but with such a great alternative i dont know why one would mess with this thing?
j2bodydouble 2 years ago
Is that a kel-tec? I think the only other pocket pistol ill buy is a 1908 hammerless if I can find a good deal. There was a U.S. General Officer model at the Valley forge Gun show last Sep. and dude wanted $700. I only brought $500. Sucks.
Blanckmeister 2 years ago
when I first got it, the same thing happened. didn't bother Me much since just slight thumb pressure or flick of the wist corrects it. NO IT WILL NOT FIRE WITH THE SLIDE BACK LIKE THAT. As the gun broke in, it stuck less and less and now not at all. unless I do it on purpose, then it still won't stay like that. So Break it in, if that doesn't help( If it even bothers you) Get #13 springs as suggested. It didn't bother Me as I was used to similar from Glocks and XDs in bradnew holsters.
Czar007LTK 2 years ago
1500 and No FTFs or FTEs. Using all types of ammo. Even Magsafe, witch I read hundreds of people reporting problems with that ammo. So all I can say is I Love the 2 I have. Mini Perfection. But Mine is a really new batch too. the serial number starts with "373" so maybe most of the kinks are worked out
Czar007LTK 2 years ago
same for mine, I dot have it in holster, its clipped on the side, and have never seen it actually do this on its own, I actually have to do it.
JackSureshot 2 years ago
I noticed that mine did that as well, I was just pulling the slid back to check the "chambered" status and I saw that the slide did not go back to it's fully ready position. The more i've shot the pistol, the better this seems to be - but it is something to be aware of. Good Video.
m2steven 2 years ago
i got the lcp and love the gun... i carry it with me everday in extream enviroments... i try to keep it clean and thats imposible with the conditions i work in.... but my gun dose it too some times..
bmjfarms 2 years ago
weak mainspring. you might try brownells
see if they make a wolf extrapower mainspring yet
xm774u 2 years ago
My beretta .22 pistol does the same thing.
ohiodeerhunter21 2 years ago
This is where 1911 style safeties like the ruger sr9 has come in hand. I know most people laugh at the idea of putting a 1911 saftey on a gun like that LCP. But do you want your damn slide to stay locked when pushed against holsters or not?
mreavis1 2 years ago
Hey, there is no way that the slide is doing that because of drawing from a holster. It is how you are inserting into the holster. I know a military firearms instructor, he trains to put a thumb on the slide ONLY when index finger is outside trigger guard of course, and only when holstering because any semi-auto can have slide movement and racking when holstering. Be advised that if you pull the trigger your thumb will essentially be gone, but it appears to be a safe way to holster.
mytube321 2 years ago
How exactly are you drawing the pistol? I would think as you were pulling the pistol out a snug fitting holster that it would pull on the slide and put it back into battery, not the other way around. You have to pull back on the slide slightly it seems to create this, but the force of pull should be forward on the slide when drawing out of a holster.
eqfan592 2 years ago
I have a Ruger LCP and I have never seen it do this. I am going to play around with it a little and see if I can duplicate the problem with mine.
Mattsplat1975 2 years ago
Humm, well that "non-problem" certainly gives me pause about buying one! I wouldn't want to have that when I'm pulling it out to defend my life! You listening Ruger?
jdmac44 2 years ago
crikes, i just got one and it does it... =(
prelupino 2 years ago
I just duplicated this on my LCP. This seems to be caused by the magazine spring presure pushing up on rounds. Without one in the pipe and bullets in the clip, I could not get it to stay out of battery.
snoprog 2 years ago
dude, cut your grass
sunandmoon111 2 years ago
I noticed my ruger lcp did the same thing. but I didn't see it as a big problem, I just use my thumb and push it back into place. not a big deal. Ive put about 200 rounds through it with no problems. it one of my favorites . love it. thanks
rmg1035 2 years ago
there is no way the slide comes BACK when drawing from the holster. The gun is getting pushed out of battery while pushing it into the tight holster, can happen to any gun. Support the back of the slide with your thumb while holstering it.
klampton317 2 years ago
Ruger said they were aware of this but it was just something that the gun did. The lady never called it a "problem " And since there is nothing wrong with it they can't fix it.
catdoc541 2 years ago
something isnt right with the rails
colemickelron 2 years ago