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  • C02 follows temperature not the other way around. C02 does not cause warming. Hitler seized power by blaming the jews; the Neo Fascist Left is seizing complete power and destroying liberty by blaming global warming.

  • NCOMUSCLE:

    Ditto. Except I would like to make a refinement.

    The liberal fascist global warming hysteria is blamed on "big business" and America. The liberal fascists substitute the word "big business" and "big oil" for "Jew" to be more politically correct. If you replace the metaphors "big business" and "big oil" with "Jew" how similar they are to the Nazi agenda becomes obvious.

  • Sf, I defintiely think you are right on.

  • NCOMUSCLE:

    Fascist liberals are the biggest segment of neo-Nazis out there, they just have a more politically correct, intoxicating and less obvious form of Nazism

  • If we were to slow or stop the natural global warming oscillation, it might allow more methane ice to build up, so that when there is a warming the release would be more catastrophic. That's why people should be careful about jumping on the global warming bandwagon. If we were able to discover a way to harvest and distribute the methane ice, it might help the environment, energy situation and financial situation. Al Gore's proposal, might actually be building a time bomb to extinction.

  • I think we should sink some money into researching "methane ice". By some estimates there is more energy in methane ice than oil. Methane ice is also catastrophically released during natural global warming and impact events. It would be best to release the methane ice in a controlled useful manner than to just let it catastrophically release.

  • Itsacorporatething: Actually by burning oil we might be gently contributing to minor global warming over a long period of time. However if we wait for a meteor strike, that would release the global warming gases suddenly that could lead to mass extinctions again. Burning oil at the rate we are now might actually be better for the environment than the alternative.

  • Itsacorporatething: The idiots that blindly follow Al Gore and jump on the global warming bandwagon remind me much of people that want to throw water on a fire as a knee-jerk reaction. It's best not to have a knee-jerk reaction. Analogy: if you throw water on an oil, electrical, or some metal and chemical fires, it can actually make things worse.

  • basically, I'm having trouble continuing this thread when anything I say somehow makes me a fascist liberal or a pawn of a fascist liberal. Time will tell if systematically raping the earth for temporary profits was a good or bad idea, somehow i think its the latter. I'm not advocating a "fascist liberal" agenda, I'm saying that humans are going to have to start living in a sustainable manner or it will all collapse and we will be forced to. comment away, but neither of us are going to change...

  • itsacorporatething "start living in a sustainable manner"

    More Republicans are for that then liberals, it's called conservatism. It's also called conservation, land management, efficiency ect.... The conservatives have always been for conservation and good environmental management. However fascist liberal fanatics like Gore (and Johnny come latelys) have hijacked the environmental agenda for their own greed and political gain

  • Ive previously tried to stay civil but you are really starting to get on my nerves. YOU ARE A NUT. your facts are wrong. your analysis is disturbing and extremely polarizing. I'm getting the sense that you don't even care about what I'm saying, that you only want to weasel around and call people fascist liberals. guess what you are... an actual fascist. stop commenting with your pseudo arguements. If you get your facts and opinions from glenn beck there is no hope. please don't comment back.

  • Itsacorporatething: "your facts are wrong"

    What facts are wrong? What about your claims? What about your facts? What facts, you've been spewing rhetoric. Some of the best environmentalism in history, was done out of patriotism for the war effort. Unfortunately people today are so liberal (spoiled, greedy and shallow they don't want to make sacrifice). They think they are contributing by being a wacko activist, in order to really contribute you have to be willing to make sacrifices.

  • Itsacorporatething: The best conservation in history was made by conservatives that used knowledge and that were willing to make sacrifices at a time when liberals would join hands with conservatives and actually work on conservation and make sacrifices. It was a time when people would collect tinfoil, metal, tires ect... as part of the war effort. Kids used to go to extremes and clean out the river beds (do hard dirty work) to get materials for the war effort.

  • Itsacorporatething "that you don't even care about what I'm saying....please don't comment back"

    You're a hypocrite. Your comments show that you have a shallower understanding and a snobbish know it all Johnny come lately attitude that's blinding you to the facts and people that are older, wiser, more knowledgeable than yourself. Your comments show that you have a shallower understanding and haven't bothered to understand what I'm saying. Your comments also show you have been misleading.

  • Itsacorporatething: It was scientist funded by legitimate corporations that told the government how to slow and reverse the advancement of the dust bowl. It was scientists that gave us nuclear energy that could reduce our admissions, it was fascist liberals that prevented us from using nuclear energy, so it was fascist liberals that helped accelerate the increase of CO2 emissions and acid rain. If it wasn't for fascist liberals hijacking environmentalism we wouldn't be in the mess we are now.

  • Itsacorporatething: George Washington Carver and Henry Ford didn't work on alternative fuels because the government forced them to, they did so on their own. During the war, people used to burn coal oil, however after the war it it was less common because it was more expensive.

  • Itsacorporatething: If you let the free market take its path without molesting it too much. The transition to alternative fuels will happen more efficiently and naturally without. People will start using other fuels because oil is becoming too expensive. People will become more conservative because the price of energy is going up. Hopefully liberals will reconsider their moratorium on nuclear energy.

  • itsacorporatething "anything I say somehow makes me a fascist liberal"

    You are using fascist liberal talking points and promoting their lies. Now you're trying to guide your way out of it. As your post proved you were promoting fascist liberal lies that destroy large US corporations, however it encourages even bigger and more wasteful and destructive global corporations. Be honest for a change. When you tell half-truths, you're not telling the truth.

  • Itsacorporatething: It is conservatives that are the real conservationists started real conservation. It was legitimate corporations and businesses that have made the best advances in environmentalism. It wasn't laws that reduced automotive pollution, it was conservative scientists and corporations. For instance the invention of electronic ignition and fuel injection has drastically reduced our footprint from what it would be.

  • The way to slow global warming saves money! stop buying cars, bike around, turn off your lights etc etc. I don't see how this costs more money than otherwise. Even more convincing is think about the damage control costs if nothing is done.

  • Itsacorporatething: Then why don't you take your own advice and stop using the computer use paper and pencil instead? Because you're a hypocrite. Start taking away people's conveniences and lower their standard of living and they will probably cry bloody murder. The people of today are spoiled, and don't have a comprehension of what it was like to live during World War II. Things were rationed. You could get more on the black market, but it was extremely expensive.

  • Itsacorporatething: In the old days more people were willing to ride mass transit. In the old days employers and city planners and workers would design communities so people could live work and shop all within a few blocks. It was energy-efficient and people didn't need to have cars. Now days you can live in the city, but have to drive 30 minutes one-way just to get to a decent grocery store or work. In the old days you knew your neighbors better.

  • I agree, I never said that in the past things weren't better. In fact, thats exactly what I was saying with my comment. I'm saying that the modern lifestyle is unsustainable and dangerous for the earth. I was pointing out that if we were serious about stopping carbon emissions we would make personal lifestyle decisions.

  • Itsacorporatething: "The way to slow global warming"

    It's not necessarily a good thing to slow "global warming". The actual overall earth is cooling, if we accelerate the cooling then we could end up like Mars a cold dry desert with no atmosphere. It will happen someday, but I have no desire to be like Al Gore and to prematurely rush the cooling. I think that more studies should be done so we understand climate better before we take drastic actions. Global warming and cooling is natural.

  • 1st, it is warming up, thats a fact... yes, variations are natural. Rampant human population growth and pollution is unnatural. It would be naive to think that human activity will do nothing to change this natural cycle. The current rate of temperature change is higher than it was after the ice age!

  • itsacorporatething "1st, it is warming up, thats a fact"

    You lie. The question is whether it is a deliberate lie or if you're just too ignorant and blind to realize you're lying. Considering that I told you the facts and you ignored it, I think you are deliberately lying. As I said, the skin and the atmosphere may be warming. However the earth as a whole is cooling. Some even suggest it may only be 1k years before the magnetic field collapse and the core freezes.

  • itsacorporatething "naive to think that human activity will do nothing to change this natural cycle"

    No one here has said that, I have only heard liberals like you say that. There is no doubt that man affects the environment. However unlike you I prefer to keep it in perspective. You act like the analogy that I used. Analogy: If there was a thunderstorm, and a person urinated; you would say the flood was man-made.

  • ignore global warming for a second. think of all the other environmental problems: deforestation, overfishing, soil infertility, desertification. Human activity can hugely alter the world. It really doesn't surprise me then that releasing stored co2 into the atmosphere can change the world. Imagine a cyclical system, there are variations but its stable, gradual variable changes cause the system to adjust to stability again. Humans are altering the system at a rate that's suicidal.

  • itsacorporatething "Humans are altering the system at a rate that's suicidal."

    Then why are you promoting Al Gore's fascist liberal agenda. Al Gore's global warming agenda actually accelerates the rate of environmental destruction, that something that you fascist liberals are continuing to ignore.

    I was promoting conservation before you were born. You Johnny come latelys are hijacking good environmentalism and turning into something that actually hurts the environment and our economy.

  • Itsacorporatething: Whereas I would say the flood was caused by nature, sure man contributed, however the amount that man contributed in urine was infinitesimal.

    Many people paraphrase that. When they paraphrase it sacrifices accuracy. However it is still more honest and accurate then being hysterical and saying that global warming is man-made. Man might be a factor but it's small, probably infinitesimal.

  • Itsacorporatething: So it's more accurate to say that global warming is natural that it is to say it's man-made.

    Analogy: Technically a rain drop attracts the earth to the raindrop, however that is absurd way of putting it in a normal conversation. In a normal conversation it would be better and more accurate to say that the earth's gravity attracts the raindrop. To say global warming is man-made, is like saying the earth falls to the raindrop.

  • itsacorporatething "The current rate of temperature change is higher than it was after the ice age!"

    Hello. Wake up and smell the coffee. You sound like the typical shallow minded ignorant fascist liberal drama queen. This is after the Ice Age. Fluctuations are normal. Which Ice Age? There has been many. There has been many times that it has warmed faster, of fact that pathological fascist liberal liars like you ignore.

  • Itsacorporatething: You fascist liberals have hijacked climatology and turned it into global warming junk science. You fascist liberals have taken science out of context to confabulate it and use it for fear mongering and hate propaganda. Con men like you are hijacking science and turning it into junk science for your financial and political gain, you're just a shill for the mega corporations.

  • Itsacorporatething: "The way to slow global warming"

    It's not necessarily a good thing to slow "global warming". The last time surface temperatures increased was the medieval warming period. The medieval warming, was one of the most prosperous, richest times for man. Technology crops and populations boomed. It wasn't the gloom and doom that the hysterical fascist liberals are assuming could result.

  • Itsacorporatething: Of course that's what happens when you put fascist liberal self-appointed "experts" that are using it as a con to expand big business and big government. I can't believe the liberals pawns that are gullible enough to believe the global warming scheme that Al Gore is pushing. He's a hypocrite, consumes and pollutes scores more than the average person, yet liberals are gullible enough to look up to him.

  • Itsacorporatething: What kind of degree does Al Gore have in climatology? NONE. Then why do you blindly follow them, and ignore the real experts and facts? Gore studied government and law, I think so he would know how to get around, bend and break it with little chance of getting caught. He also studied journalism, I think it was so he could manipulate/schmooze the media. Excellent preparation for a politician/con.

  • You think that global warming was concocted by al gore. I was aware of global warming before bill started doing his thing. furthermore this completely destroys decades of activism that had nothing to do with politicians or big business that was able to bring global warming to the national spotlight. I never even said I like/believe al gore.

  • Itsacorporatething I put "theory" in parentheses because what people often refer to as a conspiracy theory isn't good enough to qualify scientifically as a theory. At best most of the liberal conspiracy "theories" our hypothesis. Most of them are just ridiculous plausible arguments; that are being used to smear, slander defame as straw arguments against political opponents. Often it is nothing other than to divert attention away from their own sins.

  • itsacorporatething "I was aware of global warming before bill started doing his thing"

    I was aware of global warming and cooling before you were born. You pathetic fascist liberals are Johnny come latelys. You liberals jump on the bandwagon of environmentalism late in the game, and you want to pretend as if it is your creation. You have re-created it, by taking it out of context because of your shallow understanding and pseudoscience.

  • Itsacorporatething: The fascist liberals are using the global warming issue, to destroy US big business and to compromise our sovereignty, so they can coalesce and reassemble the fragmented businesses into even larger world businesses. The result is it destroys our economy and exports are industry to nations that pollute more. The net result is a socialistic redistribution of wealth, failed US economy, and a world government ruling over the US and more worldwide pollution.

  • I thought the left was known for conspiracy theories... yes, I think global warming will be manipulated by the corporatocracy to do something nefarious too. but i still believe global warming is a real threat.

  • Itsacorporatething: there is a difference between a nutty liberal conspiracy "theory" and real conspiracy theory and a conspiracy fact.

    The fact is George Soros a big businessman one of the richest men in the world is known to front pad money for front organizations for liberals. Fact is that Hillary Clinton and many other corrupt Liberals are proven to have links.

  • Itsacorporatething: It's a fact, that George Soros was convicted for insider trading. It's a fact that he worked for the Nazis, and had Jews stripped of their wealth, deported and probably sent to concentration camps. Of course you liberals don't care about facts and logic, especially when it contradicts your agenda and claims. It is a fact that liberals are in bed with big business, with the likes of George Soros.

  • Itsacorporatething: The fact is there already is fascist liberal legislation proposed and some on the books that will make the Iraq war look very cheap in comparison. It's all in the fine print, in "environmentalism" and "free trade" legislation. The legislation allows for huge tax increases and sacrifices our sovereignty. I put the words in parentheses, because they actually do the contrary of what they are touted.

  • Quit trying to label me as something I'm not. I see Clinton like you see her, a false, elite, "liberal" who supports corporate globalisation(yes neo-liberalism, "free trade" what ever you want to call it) and is only against war when it's politically helpful. Who said anything about george soros? If your going say I'm getting my information from big business, let's see who's funding the research that says global warming is false... oil corporations and other "big business."

  • Itsacorporatething: "let's see who's funding the research that says global warming is false... oil corporations and other "big business."

    Let's see who's funding the global warming hysteria under the guise of environmentalism. Fascist liberals, corrupt big business (often linked to foreign and sometimes hostile nations), some like George Soros with links to Naziism and a conviction of insider trading.

  • Itsacorporatething: Whose their figurehead? A fascist liberal hypocrite (Al Gore), that consumes and pollutes about 10 to 20 times more than the typical American.

    Who do you think is more knowledgeable at deciding how to use our energy, someone that actually has a degree and has work experience in the energy field? Or some fascist liberal educated in government, law and journalism. Who do you think is a better judge of how to manage the environment, a real scientist or a politician?

  • rushie neocons should have believed the scientists who insisted that GW was real and not a joke ... the rushies should have listened to them about the north and south poles melting and that polar bears and penguins were drowning and endangered ... because instead they frittered away 8 years and did nothing about GW and spent trillions of debt money to get more oil from iraq ... and drove people into the arms of muslim osama .. i mean muslim obama

  • AgnesBojaxhiu2000 "GW was real"

    You're making a fool of yourself. The earth on a whole is cooling. It's only the surface/atmosphere that is warming. You have a very shallow understanding of global warming, your understanding is loaded with fallacies, just like your assumptions of what other people have meant about global warming. Just what I expect from poorly educated Johnny come lately.

  • AgnesBojaxhiu2000 "polar bears and penguins were drowning"

    ROFLMAO So you're actually gullible enough to believe that childish pseudoscience propaganda that was spoon fed to you by Lord Al Gore. I guess you don't think polar bears or penguins can migrate. I guess you think they can't swim either. It reminds me of that fascist liberal that claimed Santa Claus and his reindeer were going to drown to scare little children into worshiping the global warming God.

  • AgnesBojaxhiu2000 "instead they frittered away 8 years and did nothing about GW"

    ROFLMAO So you think it might be better to blindly follow a politician and bankrupt our nation on a proposal that many real experts say may actually make the environment worse and might actually accelerate global warming. You're pretty hysterical and not too bright.

  • This is the way the Left "thinks"--cute polar bears (who will rip you apart) and funny penguins instead of FACTS. The fact is there has been zero warming in the last decade; and the last year saw a temparature drop overall that wiped out a hundred years of warming.

    We won't even get into the Medieval Warming period cos the UN does not recognize the existence of the years 900-1300.

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