Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas 2 [5/5]

[billllllyyyyyy1]

that tooth excuse is pathetic

[californicator]

shane's voice here is not slurred at all, unlike today

[hunnuit]

lightweight mosley vs lightweight mayweather would've been an all time great fight!!

[MIZIKE69]

vargas was washed up period

[MrSlik25]

Oscar was just cheesein...he loves when vargas gets trashed!!!

[TheFastFreddy]

@MrSlik25 LOL HELL YEA, HE HATE VARGAS

[billllllyyyyyy1]

@MrSlik25 oscar must have been a fisherman in his previous life coz he knows how to use the fish nets

[makpak]

vargas sounds like a boxer. and thats not good. i feel sry for him man.

he got the best competition at a very young age.

[wadud2007]

shane knew all the way that floyd is better than he is.

[ewibk]

Shane was ducking Floyd so much at that time I saw feathers growing everytime he made a new excuse during that interview. Go fight Margarito, I gotta get my Tooth fixed, I'm going on Vacation. If that isn't the all time greatest ducking excuses in history then what is. At least Lennox through the belt in the trashcan when he was asked to fight Byrd but Shane even went as far as saying he couldn't think past Monday. WOW.

[iota1962]

go shane, you can do ti, m sure...

[markustonio]

he ducked floyd because he knew as soon as he fought floyd it would be the end of his career. now that hes even older and having to fight ppl like margarito for 1.5 million dollars meanwhile floyd is making 20 million or better per fight, he knows that floyd will be his last and biggest payday by far. thats why he wants to fight him now and ducked him before.

[damianthomason]

How many excuses is going to have for not fighting Floyd??

[catucker2]

to all da ppl who say shane has ducked floyd it makes no sense why would someone duck somebody n den call them out dis fight took place july 15,2006 at 154 pounds floyd had at date for november 4, 2006 so floyd i wanna fight shane now n only give u less den 3 months to come down weight n train to fight me n november n when he says no floyd says he ducked when shane already said he is not goin to fight nemore dat year only floyd diehards would believe dis stuff

[Formzy]

@catucker2 believe it? its right in front of my face bro...its a video of shane mosely making excuses as to y he doesnt wanna fight floyd...after the fight in may i think we all no y he didnt wanna fight him back then...

[catucker2]

@Formzy u can believe or not believe but these r da facts shane said he wasnt goin to fight no more dat year cuz he feel he didnt have enuff to prepare mosley ducks no n if u r a boxing fan u should no dis but dis argument is irrelevant now bcuz they have fought n floyd beat him easy i made dat comment months ago b4 dey were goin to fight

[Formzy]

@catucker2 shane got abused...bottom line

[scotishtid]

stop the bull shit now , mayweather went to fight back it fell threw,, now he fighting mosley , end of ,its done oK

[brooklynfunnyman]

my tooth is a littel loose "NIGGA PLEASE"

[Formzy]

now whos ducking who? lol thank u so much for this video...

[DonnieLove214]

Who's ducking? You a dumb ass, did u not hear what he said. He cant properly train for that fight. But I'm sure Floyd knew that, that's the ONLY reason he called him out. Floyd is a cherry picking BS fighter. He got GREAT skillz, but no Ballz. Wasted talent... Come May 1st, ur boy is going to get put down. If corley could rock floyd, and zab's speed can land so much. Imagine Mosley... Need I say more? Prediction: Upset... Mosley wins by KO 9th Rd.

[DEXTER941]

You know I'd never have picked Shane to KO Mayweather but the more I see of his old fights, the more I think you may not be far off the mark. I'm listening to my work collegue ever day boasting to me that Mayweather will school Shane but boxing is not black & white. He says Shane has never faced a skilled fighter like Floyd but I disagree, I thought Shane won the second Winky Wright fight and he is one of the slickest out there and he was naturally bigger and Shane dealt with him the second time

[DonnieLove214]

You gotta also tell ur collegues to looks at it a different way. Marquez, a smaller shorter LESS reach guy landed some big shots. Judah, had floyd SO uncomfortable 1st half of the bout and landed plenty with just his speed. Castillo also did that with his pressure. Corley ROCKED floyd twice, if he gave himself space, he would have put down floyd. Now you put mosley in the equation. More pressure, zab's speed, double corley's power... Damn... Floyd is going to be tested. And I see a KO...

[DonnieLove214]

Ppl say he can get outboxed, this is true. By LONG big guys with reach. Jab keeps him off his game and he cant just counter becuz of the reach. Much like Tyson/Lennox. Cotto, mosley thought he was winning and never changed his gameplan, just kept going forward stupidly. His fault on that one. Floyd... he's 1 inch shorter, 2 inch less reach. He gon have trouble.

[DEXTER941]

Yeah you make some good points but if I was to say one fight that compares styles I'd say the Castillo fight is the one that shows Floyd is vunerable to a pressure fighter who has good movement and who has good skills, Castillo never got much credit for being a good boxer but he was very good, he's only trouble was he was sometimes too eager and also too face first, when he boxed he gave Floyd fits. Shane and Castillo are similar but Shane is very strong on the inside_________

[DonnieLove214]

Yeah I feel you. I had castillo winning the 1st bout, I feel he was robbed. I see mosley as being castillo and judah combined. And both had floyd uncomfortable and landed pretty good shots. with mosley's added power, he's going to look like the 3rd and 4th rd against Corley. and Thats ROCKED. Floyd was about to go down if corley had exp to create space and let loose. But you KNOW mosley turns into a beast when he see's his opponent weakened. He gets angry or something LOL. Love that dude.

[DEXTER941]

Shane is also a great body puncher and if he wants to win this fight with Mayweather he'll have to dig the body, Mayweather will be very hard to catch clean to the head but he will have trouble avoiding body shots. The jab is also the key for both fighters to win this fight, Floyd will need it to upset Shane's momentum and Shane will need it to set up his power shots. The late Vernon Forrest said once, the way to beat a fast fighter is use the jab, all good things start with the fundamentals.

[DonnieLove214]

Yeah and both fighters barely use the jab. Floyd likes the leaping left hook and str8 right. mosley likes to just tap his opponents with the jab, nothing strong. Nazim is the key to this fight too, I'm sure his gameplan is ON POINT. I see floyd losing this fight by 80%. His ONLY chance is to run and outbox mosley. Not just that, his defense needs to be at its BEST. One punch from mosley can change the outcome.

[DEXTER941]

I'm a Mosley fan, was at the Margarito fight, Shane showed a strong jab in that fight, that was down to Nazim, hope he works some more on it in camp. I like Floyd but I feel he doesn't get credit for having a good chin, I'd disagree with you on the one good power shot from Shane will crush him, Shane was never really a one punch KO artist, he always worked guys to the body and then they caved in later. Floyd will deal with Shane's power no problem but he has to watch Shane's body shots _______

[DonnieLove214]

True true, so it comes down to wearing floyd down. Using his jab of course, work the body, all the while grabbing him using his size and strength to wear floyd down. And test his chin in the later rounds. Yea, floyd has been hit hard but only rocked twice by corley so I agree. If mosley can use all that to slow floyd down just a FRACTION, mosley can capitalize on him. Exciting fight anyway u look at it. I see the winner taking pac out, no doubt.

[DEXTER941]

Yes it will be a bit of a chess match but remember everyone expects Shane to be quick and he is but he is nearly 40 and he tires a little more quickly these days and also he has been out of the ring a long time, he has never looked good after a long lay off, he'll have to be real smart to beat Floyd, not go chasing him like the Cotto fight. Remember the Chris Byrd vs Ike Ibeabuchi fight, the way Ibeabuchi beat Byrd's slick moves is he didn't get wild, he stayed patient and hit Byrd anywhere ____

[DEXTER941]

Shane will have to hook Mayweather hit Floyd hard to the body which will slow him and make his hands drop, I remember Shane as a Lightweight, he used to wreck guys with body shots, he went back to it in the Margarito fight and it is why he broke down Margarito for the KO. Floyd will have to fight like his early days, back to combos and the jab, he has Floyd Sr back who always gives him lip if he is getting lazy, Roger lets him off with too much, it will have to be a Corrales performance to win

[DonnieLove214]

Yeah, floyd did very impressively in the corrales fight. If he can flash knock down MOSLEY...I'd give him extreme props. And Vice Versa. This is a chess match with two extreme elite players... I feel mosley has fought greater competition and tested more. Giving him the edge in exp. It may just come down to Roger vs Nazim. I have Nazim winning that one lol.

[DEXTER941]

Shane will have to be patient like Ibeabuchi was, hit Floyd on the arms, tap the body, work him over slowly and eventually he will wear him down. If Floyd goes back to his old style, combos (they've disappeared) and the jab, he could give Shane real problems, a flash knockdown is not out of the question. I would say both guys will be dangerous late in the fight whoever lands the more damaging punches throughout may get a late stoppage. I would not like either to fight Pac, he just starves guys

[DonnieLove214]

Yes i agree, it may go either way depending on what fighters show up that night. I would say shane is the under dog tho in this fight. Everyone is looking passed Shane, most ppl anyway. Cuz of his age and his passed fight b4 margarito havent been impressive. But thats b4 his divorce, he became passionate again after. And has nazim now too. Cant wait til may 1st. I have no idea what to really expect.

[DEXTER941]

I can't wait either, my work collegue belittles Shane's boxing ability and I want him to see Shane can box as well as fight. Shane took away Winky Wright's jab in the second fight and you don't do that unless you can box. As long as Shane stays patient and jabs I expect him to have good sucess tagging Mayweather, Floyd is good but he's not unbeatable, no fighter is. Shane has been in with some real top class fighters who were great boxers so he'll know whats coming, Floyd won't surprise him.

[pro818]

@DEXTER941 Floyd won't surprise him ??? Really ?

[hopelesscasewtf]

@pro818 lol im sure you waited 3 months to get back at that guy !

[pro818]

@hopelesscasewtf Lol ... not really

[Formzy]

@DonnieLove214 wut happened to ur aweful prediction bro? ur boy mosley got ABUSED...wasnt even anything near a close fight...THAT is y mosely claimed his tooth hurt, cause he new floyd would ABUSE him...

[DonnieLove214]

@Formzy That's an ignorant and not a well thought out comment. Let me ask you this... If floyd comes out to fight a SLOWER guy and he could block punches or pot shot his opponent. What would you think? You'd sit back and say wtf? Something has to be wrong here. Same concept. Think about it as a fan of the sport. Shane has been hit more times by stronger guys yet... he was exhausted by the 4th round? hmm.. I'm not saying he was paid off by any means..

[DonnieLove214]

@Formzy I meant floyd couldnt*** block for my last comment. Anyway, What I'm saying is Mosley wasnt himself and floyd knew it. He felt it in the ring and took advantage of it. Shit, Hatton coulda beat that mosley THAT night. It's safe to say that Mora should beat Shane in similar fashion if THA mosley shows up. If you box, you should know 2 training camps back to back can F u up. That'swhy floyd be laying low, fighting once a yr IF that. WHile everyone else goes into wars. Smart i give him that.

[Formzy]

@DonnieLove214 lol bro say wuteva u want...im gonna leave u wit this...u sed mosely was gonna nock him out...mosely got ABUSED...now eat ur words bro straight up...

[masterblaster102]

@DonnieLove214

Dude you're full of shit. I just read all your comments...its clear that u thought mosley would kill floyd. so pls stop the silly excuses and give floyd the props he deserves. He completely outclassed mosley whose never seen defence, counterpunching, accuracy, speed and ring generalship rolled into one fighter like he did with floyd

[richieonce]

woooow but all these faggots can say is floyd ducked mosley when this guys right here talikng bout his tooth and taking vacations gtfoh

[deadlyErnest1]

the fuck is de la hoya standing in the back and smiling like a retard?

[john6times]

thats bernard hopkins lol

[deadlyErnest1]

dude at 0:40 ? that's de la hoya

[john6times]

o thought u meant for most of the vid, lmao yea i didnt even notice him there lmao, hopkins makes me laugh tho.. he stands there like hes hoping he gets a word in lol

[kevinn10]

he's the new don king

[Formzy]

@deadlyErnest1 cause he nos 1 day hes gonna make millions off that fight hahaha

[yerizzity1]

So shane wants Floyd to fight him when hes ready, toothaches, trips are all excuses. Now shane has to wait untill floyd is good and ready

[123bigr]

great point!!!!!!

[Midnightrambler3760]

What if he gets a toothache while he is on a trip? He didn't even mention hemmorids or ingrown toenails.

[jadda918]

@yerizzity1 very true, floyd gets a bad rap, shane clearly ducking floyd here

[robertjl619]

And if you knew anything about boxing the only reasons mosley didnt fight mayweather back in the day is because there was no promotional value. Mosley was the best in the world and mayweather was a kid coming up in the world. Thats how boxing works you idiots. Mayweather is lying to himself when he says mosley isnt a ppv attraction, I gurantee you that fight would draw the biggest crowd and ppv views ever.

[bandamardu]

@robertjl619 disagree cos mayweather would draw more with pac purely cow sports fans want it but what real boxing fans want is mosly vs mayweather somewhere in there u have to put in paul williams but he is being avoided

mayweather has called out alot of ppl like kosta tyzu but didnt bother fighting but who knows what will happen

[Mytubezbigger]

@ robertjl619

Are you smokin that $hit again? Did you not watch the clip? If the fight had no promotional value than why did Mayweather already have a fight lined up with De La Hoya? And why did Larry say to Mosley "possibly your biggest payday ever"? Floyd was making a buzz a long time ago man. YOu need to follow boxing more! Mayweather is better than Mosley. Come on homie, I know you see that Mosley just dodged the man. Mayweather was born into this, hes not losin period.

[robertjl619]

Shane mosley is better than mayweather. If you can tell me one fight where mayweather beat a guy that you actually thought would beat him let me know cause I cant think of one. Oscar was the only dude I thought that could get a win but even before that fight I took mayweather all day. He also fought oscar when oscar was older and not what he use to be and now that Mosley looks better than ever mayweathers scared to get the first loss of his career.

[fhab525]

that little stunt that shane pulled at the interview with mayweather was not his fault, bernard hopkins told shane he should do that, thats not even in shane's character to behave like that..u could look at bhop in the back happy as hell. mayweather is not afraid of anybody,hes been whoopin ass since birth, so kill that noise, shane did not have a straight answer to the question..everybody knows shane gets manipulated by everybody, first his wife jin, now he is oscar's bitch and hopkin's bitch

[jessebrito11]

LOL moslys teeth is loose that's what happens when you fight with your mouth open.

[IAmBoxing1]

prime example of how when the fight should of happen mosley backed out....so after that bull shit that happen with mosley jumping in the ring n shit.....when floyd wanted the fight to happen you once again came up with an excuse...now that you dont have a wife running ur life.... oh now u wanna call out floyd...fuck that....wait ur turn...and stop over looking berto...cause u over looked cotto and look what happen..beat brerto and then we will see....cause i dont think u can

[itsabird]

where's the duck? he said he was willing to fight floyd in 2007.

[formarkiz]

Yeah, he should fight Margo in November then fight him in Jan? Then he went down and fought Cotto at 147lbs, never looked for Mayweather until now because there is absolutely no options for a big fight for him, now he hops on the Mayweather hate bandwagon and tries to make it look like he's been trying to get a fight. He said he can't think ahead 2 days about what he would do if Mayweather offered him a fight on a Monday. He's trying to dodge the question he did not want it.

[itsabird]

yeah but he also called to fight floyd in 2007 when he was helping oscar get ready, he said that after the oscar fight then he should fight floyd.

[formarkiz]

Yeah, he said that but after Mayweather beat DLH, Mosley signed to fight Cotto.

[itsabird]

yeah but that was cause mayweather said he was semi retired.

[ramnz1]

and for those of you that said shane cherry picked what about floyd,,,how r you the welterweight champ and you didnt defend your belt against 1 top 5 welterweight? lets see did he fight cotto, margarito,collazo,berto,forres­t,,,nooooo he didnt but shane has fought all of them but burto and he might fight him! lets cut the shyt if floyd is gonna hold a grudge because shane didnt fight when he wanted to fight he's a fcking loser. had they fought then the fight would not have been as big then

[ramnz1]

for all of you that dont know lets get something straight,, oscar is the boss,how could a fight with floyd and shane go down and everybody knew that oscar was next? shane played his part bottom line, what fighter fights 3 or 4 times a year, he said you let me get right and ill fight him when ever he said. floyd knew that shane would have have to drop about 10 pounds or so and shane was like nah buddy fck you give me some time and then we can rock. shane ducked floyd, r yall stupid?

[123jokaa]

What about when they was both lighweights and undefeated? and Mayweather asked him to fight Shane said no thanks, or what about after the first Vargas fight when Floyd wanted it Shane said he had a toothach?

[EyOhTaFaRiAn]

Can someone tell me when this was?

[Antrizzle2009]

This was July 15, 2006. Floyd had a November slot open. He wanted to fight Shane then. He then turned down a fight with Margarito, talked about fighting Corey Spinks, and finally settled for fighting Baldomir. Shane meanwhile didn't fight till Feb. 07 against Collazo.

[615nana]

he turned down the fight with marg cause bob arum want to split the purse of a fight with del la hoya thats why he brought hiself out the contract and he was going to move up and fight spinks but he had a pending mandatory so he got offerd 10mill to fight baldr shane made a deal to fight citron in dec but he broke his hand the first time then he wanted more money thats why he fought callazo instead so he was full of it

[Antrizzle2009]

Yea that sounds about right. I know he split with Arum after the Judah fight. Arum wasn't representing him when negotiations for Margarito came up tho right?

[615nana]

yeah he was his rep at the time both of them where are under top rank at that time

[Antrizzle2009]

Ok that makes sense. I can understand Floyd wanting to get away from him tho. Arum is greedy as fuck. Dude makes more money than the fighters do and truthfully once a fighter gets to a certain point he can damn near promote himself. Roy Jones did it for years. Roy and Calzaghe made their fight happen without any big time promoter involved, so they got to keep all the money. Fighters are the ones risking their health in there, they deserve the bulk of the money.

[615nana]

roy and calzaghe got help from golden boy but hbo asked golden boy to help with the promotion of the fight like they do with floyd they help him with the promotion of his fights

[Antrizzle2009]

well it was in conjunciton with square rink which is roy's company. i see what you're saying but thats a tad different than being under top rank where bob arum owns you. that fight happened on roy's and joe's terms.

[615nana]

yeah your right like floyd he has his own terms

[sootyandsweep]

The tooth response is the worst i've heard.

When Floyd was on his way up, he called out everyone - now that he's calling the shots, you hypocrites get mad at him for doing the exact same thing that they did.

I'd like to see Shane fight Floyd, but IF Manny gets past Cotto (i think Cotto KO's him).... i'd be happy to see Floyd silence some of these delusional Filipinos. And we'll still get to see Shane/Floyd/Cotto in 2010 - it's a business and the money will be there for those fights.

[Paier]

what a hook

[BigDoggTheDon]

my tooth my tooth, im going holiday. SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!! you ducked floyd and now you are lookin for a big payday

[lucdiamond]

This Nigga scared LMAO! Now he all big and bad rofl Shane is a phony too smh

[ssanchez951]

shane is smart cause hes giving analysis like a trainer

[16brandex]

Shane didn't duck FraudyMAY, He fought Vargas twice that year. He wanted to go back to Welter. Floyd's a bitch for not fighting Margo, then fighting Shane.

[OriginalJohnsDada]

People still talking about Margarito??? come on dude..Margarito gotta prove he can win a fight without cement in his gloves before he can even be considered a Top Welterweight contender again.

[LoYaLTYSaLuTe]

To all you idiots that think that Shane ducked Mayweather, you need to do your research. Look how many times Shane fought that year. Mayweather is the cherrypicker of the century, fighting guys 20 lbs lighter than him.

[OriginalJohnsDada]

Loyalty I think you need to do some research. Uhm shane fought only 2x in 2006...this fight was his last fight of the year and that was July 15, 2006. He beat Vargas so bad in February 25, 2006 Cortez stopped the damn fight. Than he turns around and fight the same guy?? But you dont call that cherry pickin?? Shane picks his fights just like every other fighter does. At least be honest with ya criticism

[Antrizzle2009]

Well the rematch with Vargas was warranted cuz that was a close fight and it only got stopped cuz of Vargas' eye. So I don't blame Shane for that one. But you're right, he had plenty of time to get down to welterweight for a fight with Floyd in November. He chose not to.

[songotenz02]

Couldn't agree with you more LoyaltySalute.

[LLAdam2k8]

Funny that! Best ducking, bobbing and weaving of a fighter i have ever seen lmao :)

[rc150]

"Why not fight Floyd next? Err... He's... Err.. The thing is... Well.. I've injured my... err my tooth hurts... Yeah my tooth hurts. That's it. I've got to go to the dentist that da- that year. Yeah."

[thuglyf121212]

fuck u bitch look at the guy he was fighting ployd boring gayweather fight pussys

[mythz07]

Shane was scared. Floyd had not even fought Baldomir when this fight took place... he had just came off the victory with Judah. Shane was just pussy and didnt want to fight Floyd. Now that he's old he's willing to take the loss for the payday.

[rc150]

I don't even think he wants it now. I heard him last week calling out Floyd like 2 weeks away from the Marquez fight! Fair enough, if I was Shane I wouldn't want to get battered by Floyd either but ppl still accuse Floyd of ducking when it's blatantly the other way round!

[littlehagler]

Oscar wanted to fight floyd and told Mosley to back up, this story of vacations and teeth problem is just not credible....

Oscar is the boss

[Greg879]

SHane is a funny guy.

[joelok48]

Thank you so much for this awesome performance by Shane. Your hard work and boxing appreciation is a true gift to all of us!

[Lordrutledge]

Agreed Shane is a absoulute class act