this is disgusting. my great grandfather was in vietnam and saw the terror war brings, the AEC is a way for the army to grab the attention of this generation's video game addicted status quo and rope them into those terrors of killing and pointless violence in war using the technology of today. there is no reset button on life. if you flag or delete this comment you will only further be proving my point that america is becoming more and more corrupt and brainwashing each day.
@YIPonwater i understand wat your saying but really!! do waste your time trying to make people think differently just mid your own buisness its totally up to the kids wether or not they wanna join the army
@waffleninja2 i'd have an easier time respecting your argument if you could A. spell, at least somewhat, to show me your point is halfway intellectual and B. realize that I'm probably smart enough to know that i'm not going to change anyone's mind by a youtube comment; i'm just stating my views on it.
@YIPonwater The AEC was designed to show current training techniques used by the united states army. It may seem like a video game, because they use the same technologies in the respect of computerized environments. But that is where it ends, these simulators are NOT a recruitment tool, but a continuing training tool. I joined the Army because I always wanted to be in the military. I do not understand why you seem to think these were created as a recruitment tool. I assure you they were not.
I personally think the army experience center was silly. Its gone now but most of the recruiters have moved and are getting ready to start a new office. I live next to it and the recruiters that put me through meps were the guys that used to work at the AEC. They're great fucking dudes, every single one of them. I'm doing future soldier training with them now and they're all fantastic guys, they genuinely want to see you succeed.
Grow up people, dont say shit unless you've gone there, because its not turning war into a video game. Its just there to attract kids, so they can educate them. I have been there several times and I have never detected any attempt to recruit me. Just to teach me that world is not cotton candy. So that when some of us that have already made up our minds about going, know what is in store for ourselves. Try "Experiencing" the Army Experience Center, before you cry about it.
Just wait until reality of war wakes up those video gamers. No reset button, holding the bloody corpse of your friend, suicides, mental illness at about 30%... They should have paintball 'games' and set the pressure higher than normal to give a better perspective.
Am all for an appropriate war, yet recruitment via video game is a feeble lie. Real war means real consequences with snipers who will kill you before you ever hear the shot.
Technology will eventually eliminate war where PEOPLE die. The idea here is that we are moving away from people killing people to machines killing machines. I'm all for that. We now have remote controlled planes and the pilot goes home to his family every night.
y r people hating on this, i meen its recruting , thats been happening in FOREVER??? i dont get it, who else is gonna fight the war, old poeple ...NO the NEXT generation, thats who, so y r poeple freaking oout??? who knows, yes wars not a video game, but they also have videos of war in there to , so games and videos are the closest thing to war, wat do u want the military to do???
Help educate young people about the misleading marketing, advertising and recruiting strategies of the U.S. military, including but not limited to the Virtual Army Experience, by joining and supporting the website that is the same as our user name. We demand that the U.S. military stop using video games, motorsports sponsorships, college and pro athletics sponsorships and deceptive associations with youth groups like the Boy Scouts of America- all of which have NOTHING to do with the military.
this is not such a big deal - all you people crying about it, just relax. it sucks that we're spending all this money on buildings like this, that i agree... but about recruitment??? lol.. you don thave to go in theere!! dont like it, dont go!!! too young??? well you cant join anyway! who cares if a 13year old goes in there - hes got atlesat 3 years berfore he can even start thinking about it - thats a long fucking time. then u have to use ur head, and make a choice. period.
Have any of you poeple (EXCEPT those in the comments that have) been there before. Your going to berate a place without having gone anywere near there?
CaptSnow3 has a point. I recommend Philly kids go down and check it out. BUT conveniently "forget" your driver's license and see how friendly and receptive they are to letting you play their game, which your tax dollars paid for. They'll tell you to go home and get you ID and come back. You're just a small step towards a monthly quota to them, and they'll tell you anything to get you to sign.
Age verification is necessary to let you play games that have age restrictions or let you participate in activities with age minimums - otherwise detractors scream bloody murder about letting underage kids participate - you don't need a drivers license, but you need some official form of ID. There are NO quotas there, and they will not tell you "anything to get you to sign" - the whole point of the AEC is to destroy ignorant misperceptions and educate you in a better way.
Wrong. 13 year olds have no form of ID, driver's license or otherwise. Homeland Propaganda laws should prohibit their involvement regardless of the video game's ratings. U.S. Army Recruiters most definitely do have quotas and the proof is indisputable. The fact that you would say they don't makes all your arguments unreliable. I worked directly for the civilian agency that developed the AEC on a previous project of theirs, and am well aware of the strategy behind the AEC. And the waste.
The reason for the drivers license is to have some sort of ID of the person who was handed an X-Box controller. It is also used as age verification to make sure the games age rating is followed.
Wrong. And I know. I was employed for many years in support of U.S. Army event marketing operations. The license is for Recruiting database files, so that Recruiters can reach the kids by phone, by e-mail or by just showing up at their houses, as many event participants informed me Recruiters had done when they had participated in Army events before, thus their reasoning for not wanting to share their contact info the following year. They used words like "harassment" and "intimidation".
this is toooo much, they hav crossed the line, from letting people chose if they should join n serve their country to this attracting ppl, persuade them by excitiement n fun far out. this is ridiculous, horrible, outrageous, bull crap, evil, not to mention cost alot too
Yesterday I called and asked if I could try out the simulators. They said yes. I called first because I was driving from 2 hours away. When I got there the simulators were not working. It cost the tax payers 12 million dollars and it doesn't work. I'm going to BCT and I wanted to try out the AEC before I go. But I'm never going back there again because when I asked questions they were rude to me. I signed up and took an oath to defend this country but they treated me like I was Osama Bin Laden.
Thanks for sharing that experience! They are very full of themselves, and it comes off as being rude. They will deny this, but they are there solely for recruiting purposes. You shouldn't go, there's a whole big world out there and being part of a killing machine is just not going to help.
@elainebrower Exactly, they make it look all fun and games untill you actually get cought up into the army and you see what it's really like. there's really nothing GOOD about being int he army cept' for a fit body.
@HiddenAbilities heres an idea....MIND your own buisness i went there and they never tried to recruit me some kids that wanted to be recruited were all ready decided about it
I just came back from this today and I enjoyed myself. No one talked to me about anything military related except my own recruiter. No one is out there waiting for kids to come by and try to lure them in either... it was a very nice experience.
You were at a DEP program (Delayed Entry Program). Of course no one talked to you but your recruiter. You've already signed up, but haven't been sent to BCT (Basic). I think you are missing the point of what the center does to 99.9% of other kids in there (try to recruit them). I hope you are unaware of your mistake, rather than trying to trick the average comment reader into thinking that your new organization (you have just joined) is not doing something that they are clearly doing.CAMMMO
No i was not in DEP at all. I actually got disqualified before i went to AEC because of some scars on my arm, but I had an appointment at MEPS for a consult-- they labelled it self mutilation, how foolish
I still liked the place and like i had said earlier i didnt see anything like them trying to recruit right from there.
I hate to say i actually gave up on enlistment but I had met a wonderful man and am going back to school.
This pisses me off, They spend 13 million of our tax money on this. I own an IGC and spent less that 100k on it. This is a direct competition to real business. Take our money then use it to put us out of business, the US government is always crapping on the small business owners.
I think class action lawsuit. They are violating our rights here. They are not permitted to run a business, and this is in fact a business. they sell people on joining the army based on games.
We could not agree more. Join our group and stay up to date on all of the deceptive and, many times, unlawful U.S. military recruiting tactics (based on Geneva Conventions). Where in this "experience" are the images from Ft. Bragg showing black mold and asbestos? How about the Abu Ghraib torture rooms? Do they have their own section at the exhibit? Is there a section on Stop-Loss? How about meningitis on base? No? Just shiny guns, vehicles, and computers?- not the Army I know.
The Army Experience Center "Family Outreach" = Bringing pain, misery and death to a life near you !
pureloveracing 8 months ago
Sucks there isn't one near me...
mec567 11 months ago
this shit tight but the sim isnt real life .
SERVER1992 1 year ago
this is disgusting. my great grandfather was in vietnam and saw the terror war brings, the AEC is a way for the army to grab the attention of this generation's video game addicted status quo and rope them into those terrors of killing and pointless violence in war using the technology of today. there is no reset button on life. if you flag or delete this comment you will only further be proving my point that america is becoming more and more corrupt and brainwashing each day.
YIPonwater 1 year ago
@YIPonwater i understand wat your saying but really!! do waste your time trying to make people think differently just mid your own buisness its totally up to the kids wether or not they wanna join the army
waffleninja2 1 year ago
@waffleninja2 i'd have an easier time respecting your argument if you could A. spell, at least somewhat, to show me your point is halfway intellectual and B. realize that I'm probably smart enough to know that i'm not going to change anyone's mind by a youtube comment; i'm just stating my views on it.
YIPonwater 1 year ago
@YIPonwater The AEC was designed to show current training techniques used by the united states army. It may seem like a video game, because they use the same technologies in the respect of computerized environments. But that is where it ends, these simulators are NOT a recruitment tool, but a continuing training tool. I joined the Army because I always wanted to be in the military. I do not understand why you seem to think these were created as a recruitment tool. I assure you they were not.
earlbedfordjr83 7 months ago
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korythebaker 1 year ago
I personally think the army experience center was silly. Its gone now but most of the recruiters have moved and are getting ready to start a new office. I live next to it and the recruiters that put me through meps were the guys that used to work at the AEC. They're great fucking dudes, every single one of them. I'm doing future soldier training with them now and they're all fantastic guys, they genuinely want to see you succeed.
korythebaker 1 year ago
Grow up people, dont say shit unless you've gone there, because its not turning war into a video game. Its just there to attract kids, so they can educate them. I have been there several times and I have never detected any attempt to recruit me. Just to teach me that world is not cotton candy. So that when some of us that have already made up our minds about going, know what is in store for ourselves. Try "Experiencing" the Army Experience Center, before you cry about it.
Nemesis0300 1 year ago
@Nemesis0300 ha good shit but they closed it down cuz do mant people that couldnt mind their buisness kept protesting
waffleninja2 1 year ago
Totally Disgusting!!!!!
jcarrivillaga 1 year ago
@jcarrivillaga your disgusting just mind your own life and buisness
waffleninja2 1 year ago
Just wait until reality of war wakes up those video gamers. No reset button, holding the bloody corpse of your friend, suicides, mental illness at about 30%... They should have paintball 'games' and set the pressure higher than normal to give a better perspective.
Am all for an appropriate war, yet recruitment via video game is a feeble lie. Real war means real consequences with snipers who will kill you before you ever hear the shot.
enjoythemusic1 1 year ago
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Technology will eventually eliminate war where PEOPLE die. The idea here is that we are moving away from people killing people to machines killing machines. I'm all for that. We now have remote controlled planes and the pilot goes home to his family every night.
markjessing 1 year ago
@marcolotr I completely agree with you, what's the military suppsed to do, shoot you and let you find out by youself if it hurts?
SrgPenguin 1 year ago
y r people hating on this, i meen its recruting , thats been happening in FOREVER??? i dont get it, who else is gonna fight the war, old poeple ...NO the NEXT generation, thats who, so y r poeple freaking oout??? who knows, yes wars not a video game, but they also have videos of war in there to , so games and videos are the closest thing to war, wat do u want the military to do???
marcolotr 2 years ago
War is not a video game.
KenCat1337 2 years ago 2
"War is not a video game."
And these video games are not war, correct.
Tairaa2 2 years ago
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Help educate young people about the misleading marketing, advertising and recruiting strategies of the U.S. military, including but not limited to the Virtual Army Experience, by joining and supporting the website that is the same as our user name. We demand that the U.S. military stop using video games, motorsports sponsorships, college and pro athletics sponsorships and deceptive associations with youth groups like the Boy Scouts of America- all of which have NOTHING to do with the military.
cammmodotorg 2 years ago
this is not such a big deal - all you people crying about it, just relax. it sucks that we're spending all this money on buildings like this, that i agree... but about recruitment??? lol.. you don thave to go in theere!! dont like it, dont go!!! too young??? well you cant join anyway! who cares if a 13year old goes in there - hes got atlesat 3 years berfore he can even start thinking about it - thats a long fucking time. then u have to use ur head, and make a choice. period.
dima2244 2 years ago
Have any of you poeple (EXCEPT those in the comments that have) been there before. Your going to berate a place without having gone anywere near there?
CaptSnow3 2 years ago
CaptSnow3 has a point. I recommend Philly kids go down and check it out. BUT conveniently "forget" your driver's license and see how friendly and receptive they are to letting you play their game, which your tax dollars paid for. They'll tell you to go home and get you ID and come back. You're just a small step towards a monthly quota to them, and they'll tell you anything to get you to sign.
cammmodotorg 2 years ago
Age verification is necessary to let you play games that have age restrictions or let you participate in activities with age minimums - otherwise detractors scream bloody murder about letting underage kids participate - you don't need a drivers license, but you need some official form of ID. There are NO quotas there, and they will not tell you "anything to get you to sign" - the whole point of the AEC is to destroy ignorant misperceptions and educate you in a better way.
junglegym70 2 years ago
Wrong. 13 year olds have no form of ID, driver's license or otherwise. Homeland Propaganda laws should prohibit their involvement regardless of the video game's ratings. U.S. Army Recruiters most definitely do have quotas and the proof is indisputable. The fact that you would say they don't makes all your arguments unreliable. I worked directly for the civilian agency that developed the AEC on a previous project of theirs, and am well aware of the strategy behind the AEC. And the waste.
cammmodotorg 2 years ago
The reason for the drivers license is to have some sort of ID of the person who was handed an X-Box controller. It is also used as age verification to make sure the games age rating is followed.
SergeantDuderino 2 years ago
Wrong. And I know. I was employed for many years in support of U.S. Army event marketing operations. The license is for Recruiting database files, so that Recruiters can reach the kids by phone, by e-mail or by just showing up at their houses, as many event participants informed me Recruiters had done when they had participated in Army events before, thus their reasoning for not wanting to share their contact info the following year. They used words like "harassment" and "intimidation".
cammmodotorg 2 years ago
this is toooo much, they hav crossed the line, from letting people chose if they should join n serve their country to this attracting ppl, persuade them by excitiement n fun far out. this is ridiculous, horrible, outrageous, bull crap, evil, not to mention cost alot too
foxwuj 2 years ago
Yesterday I called and asked if I could try out the simulators. They said yes. I called first because I was driving from 2 hours away. When I got there the simulators were not working. It cost the tax payers 12 million dollars and it doesn't work. I'm going to BCT and I wanted to try out the AEC before I go. But I'm never going back there again because when I asked questions they were rude to me. I signed up and took an oath to defend this country but they treated me like I was Osama Bin Laden.
k4n3 2 years ago
Thanks for sharing that experience! They are very full of themselves, and it comes off as being rude. They will deny this, but they are there solely for recruiting purposes. You shouldn't go, there's a whole big world out there and being part of a killing machine is just not going to help.
elainebrower 2 years ago
@elainebrower Exactly, they make it look all fun and games untill you actually get cought up into the army and you see what it's really like. there's really nothing GOOD about being int he army cept' for a fit body.
HiddenAbilities 1 year ago
@HiddenAbilities heres an idea....MIND your own buisness i went there and they never tried to recruit me some kids that wanted to be recruited were all ready decided about it
waffleninja2 1 year ago
... Troll :)
HiddenAbilities 1 year ago
I just came back from this today and I enjoyed myself. No one talked to me about anything military related except my own recruiter. No one is out there waiting for kids to come by and try to lure them in either... it was a very nice experience.
casketcrewchick 3 years ago
You were at a DEP program (Delayed Entry Program). Of course no one talked to you but your recruiter. You've already signed up, but haven't been sent to BCT (Basic). I think you are missing the point of what the center does to 99.9% of other kids in there (try to recruit them). I hope you are unaware of your mistake, rather than trying to trick the average comment reader into thinking that your new organization (you have just joined) is not doing something that they are clearly doing.CAMMMO
cammmodotorg 2 years ago
No i was not in DEP at all. I actually got disqualified before i went to AEC because of some scars on my arm, but I had an appointment at MEPS for a consult-- they labelled it self mutilation, how foolish
I still liked the place and like i had said earlier i didnt see anything like them trying to recruit right from there.
I hate to say i actually gave up on enlistment but I had met a wonderful man and am going back to school.
casketcrewchick 2 years ago
Very cool, very innovative
martyyoung24 3 years ago
HOOOOOAH ! I think its a great idea !!
LoooLDK 3 years ago
This pisses me off, They spend 13 million of our tax money on this. I own an IGC and spent less that 100k on it. This is a direct competition to real business. Take our money then use it to put us out of business, the US government is always crapping on the small business owners.
I think class action lawsuit. They are violating our rights here. They are not permitted to run a business, and this is in fact a business. they sell people on joining the army based on games.
This is horrible.
ShawnHydedotcom 3 years ago
We could not agree more. Join our group and stay up to date on all of the deceptive and, many times, unlawful U.S. military recruiting tactics (based on Geneva Conventions). Where in this "experience" are the images from Ft. Bragg showing black mold and asbestos? How about the Abu Ghraib torture rooms? Do they have their own section at the exhibit? Is there a section on Stop-Loss? How about meningitis on base? No? Just shiny guns, vehicles, and computers?- not the Army I know.
CAMMMO
cammmodotorg 2 years ago
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Forget all this nonsense. All this money spent for something like this...ridiculous. Let's just have a freakin' draft already!
paratrooperdan949 3 years ago