I only use an HDD for my games. I just use a strict gaming computer so I run nothing else but Skype. Eerything else is on my lap top. I could care less about 5 less seconds of waiting.
Quick Question if your motherboard does not support SATA-III 6 gb/s could I use a Syba SATA III PCIe card to hook the SSD to so I can load OS at SATA III Speeds? Or do i have to upgrade the motherboard all together.
Lmao at all the people who are saying it's not worth it. It's fucking annoying when your running 7 applications and the 8th one takes forever because your hdd is spinning like a little 4 year kid when he's had too much sugar. Not to mention SSD's now last just as long as HDD's and are much less prone to failure due to no moving parts. Sure they cost more, but having a 10second boot time and no loading screens and much faster read and write speeds, it's really worth it. OCZ Vertex 3 -3
Quick question how do I test the read/write speed of my SSD? I have a OCZ vertex 3, which should be 550/500 MB/s. Also is there any way, without taking the cover off, I can find out if its going through the sata III not the sata II.
im buying a gaming computer and the hard drive is 512GB 6Gb/s Solid State Drive is that enough memory and is fast enough to play games, im new to pc gaming
@jasonf236 that's a waste of an ssd i think. modern hard drives are plenty fast for the money you would save. don't get me wrong and ssd is great. for what a ssd that size would cost, you can easily put a 64 gig ssd to boot from and install the games to a 0 raid setup and have change. it's your dime though so do what you want, and yeah that would be enough space to install a bunch of games and run an o/s.
If I only put windows on the SSD and nothing else, and all my other programs on a HDD, would all the programs in the taskbar and stuff still load quick? I don't mean the actual boot up time of the programs themselves (because ofcourse only windows is on the SSD), but would I still have to wait that extra minute after windows has booted up before I can actually use my computer?
I have a question, probably a stupid one. I'm using a normal HD at the moment with all my stuff on it such as steam files. If I were to add an SSD while keeping my HD, would I have to transfer everything onto the SSD from my HD so they'll run faster, or would I be able to just go into the HD and run stuff from there while on the SSD to get SSD speed?
@PSPISOGAME The files you're loading need to be on the SSD if you want SSD speed, obviously. You'd have to move your game files to the SSD if you want the SSD speed in your games. The files on you HD will still load at normal HD speed.
lol ssd make me laugh unless i was rich and i went to St Thomas Aquanis high school and my parents were Alumni from the University of Miami and owned part of South Beach and i took my fathers lamborghini out on sundays im Buying a freaking HDD. thanks for the video though :D
@roeroe305 I just got an ssd 256 gb for $100 which is more than enough size if you are using the primary hard drive for what it's for. AKA programs. ANything else you can use an external for.
@Jamesey162 You still have moving parts to deal with no moving parts vs moving there is no competition.It's like comparing the fastest sprinter against the fastest sports car.
@Niemtol2 what im trying to say is that 800$ ssd vs 800$ extra cpu&gpu me my self would wait a bit longer for load times and with my better cpu & gpu enjoy higher fps
but its kinda down to how you use your computer if you want faster load times go with ssd if you want better processing & graphical power go with a better cpu & gpu unless your rich and can afford both ;)
@xUnlimitzx Depends on rate. HDD's last 3-5 years no matter how much data you write to them, while SSD's lifetime depends only on amounts of written data. So, if you write low amounts of data (read: you're average user) SSD can last even 5 times longer than HDD, but if you're writing terabytes of data every day then HDD will last more.
if i have my OS on my SSD and the game im playing (BF3) on my SSD too and then record my gameplay video's to my HDD give me higher FPS instead of having the OS and BF3 on the HDD and recording it to the SSD? Please respond? :D
@Buttfuckbysquirl@CrazyWeno video recording of 1080p for example, would still not need a write speed more than what your HDD can offer, so recording to your HDD will work just as well as your SSD. And as far as performance of the game itself, it doesn't matter what you are running it off from, because the difference you'll see is while the game LOADS a map textures etc. You won't see a "higher FPS" if you run the game from the SSD compared to the HDD, that depends on your GPU.
@Buttfuckbysquirl Yes I do it all the time i have like 2 and a half TB of video >__> cause i keep buffer record always on and aosdnfoasdnfasdfnsd filled up my whole 4TB :l
getting my 256GB Octane today so cleaning up my HDD's atm for a full new install.
I am not trying to scare people away from getting SSDs. I am just trying to point out that it may not be as easy to recover data from SSDs vs HDs. If there are problems with my HD, I can probably be able to recover the data by myself. If there are problems with a SSD, I may have to ship that out to a professional (which may probably set you back for quite a few hundred bucks).
@CrazyWeno there aren't as many problems that arise from SSDs though, with no moving parts they are much more reliable. Also to get data off of a HDD it'll cost you more than 1000 dollars or some pretty advanced machines which probably cost a lot anyways...
@noneabove1182 I understand that moving parts are likely to cause failures in HDD. On the brighter side, HDD would likely to make "funny" sounds prior to any major issues. That is usually a sign of failure-to-come. As for SSD, most failures would likely to occur internally and without prior notices. Living with a SSD is like a gamble everyday. (Though, I am not trying to discourage anyone from using it.) There had been a period of time where SSD weren't too reliable.
@noneabove1182 As for recovering data off of a HDD, it really depends on how it is damaged. I, once, had an old HDD with a burn circuit board. All I needed to do was to purchase another HDD of the same type, and swap the hardware out to my old HDD. I had spent around $50. So, that wasn't bad at all. If you ask me, how I am going to recover data off from a SSD. Honestly, I really don't know where to begin with.
@CrazyWeno I agree. He says huge difference, i see a delay of 5-20 sec that's not huge at all for me, and i saw friends crying because they lost data on SSD that they couldn't recover, i always managed to recover data from my old HDD drives, at this point in time the SSD is in his infant state, i would only recommend buying for OS and Games not for log term data storage, also it will be more time before this will really worth the trouble for me, i rather buy a CPU or GPU than buy an SSD.
One thing about SSDs and regular HD is that they will fail at some point. And sometimes, they can fail without notices. If you don't do regular backups, then that would suck for you. And if that ever happens, it is unlikely that you can recover any data from a SSD. And depending on what the failure is on a regular HD, your chances of recovering any data is pretty high. One time I had a burn on the circuit board for my HD, all I needed was to switch out the hardware.
@mclmatty you can either buy one ssd in a lifetime or buy 10 disc hard drives, hmmm.... less power usage... no moving parts so it's quiet? harder to lose data? i think ill pay more money for that
Also, every time I go up to CompUsa I end up having a laugh because they are a price joke and I refuse to purchase anything that you have to mail in a rebate. Not long ago the store used to handle the mail in rebate but passed it to the customer. Just shop at NewEgg where there is no overhead, tax and free shipping.
Unless they drop the price to reasonable then forget about them and let Bill Gates or other rich to buy them. There is no reason to get one. Are you that hard up for 20 extra seconds of speed? The industry can overtake Standard HD's but they seriously can't make them cheaper? If people pay 200x more than standard hd's then why drop the price? Think about it.
If I can get people to pay $500 instead of $99 I will sell my shit for $500. Stop buying them.
I just bought 4 Terrabytes for $199. Traditionally I can be at ease with the fact that this will last 3 or more years without fail. The 4 Ter Seagate is also a fast sucker that sits in the same space as a 250 gig. I think I can wait the extra 20 seconds. Also my boot time is around 32 seconds till actual use.
That saying, hell yea I would rather have SSD's I wish they would replace HD's unfortunately the market dictates. Seriously, every time I go to buy one the price is still too high.
@kpreston69 eventually those 4TBs will get full or almost, which will be much slower than what speeds they have now. but yeah, i have 6.5TB HDD and 120GB SSD as boot (and some programs) drive. never going back
@buonchieuphoco Well, I suspected that prices might go up so I went and bought one.
I picked up a Go Flex 4 ter and pulled it out of the case and use it as a regular drive.
Format it to GPT and if you want to boot from it your bios has to be UEFI and has to be a 64 bit version of windows. All for $199. So 12 ter for $600 and what will $600 buy in SSD? Maybe 240 megs if you can find it. 12 Ter will back up your entire life for years to come. Are you that impatient to spend $.
@pavy415 the main advantage of a SSD is the faster accestime, you don't get that with a 15000 RPM drive. And btw, I'd rather not have a fucking earthquake next to me.
i think the "search speed" criteria at 2:35 is irelevant because the hdd has more info on it than the ssd (you can see that from the windows capacity bar on the screens).
I Run a 112 GB Force GT Corsair for my OS and boot and a 3 T SATA III Drive for my data and my system is rediculously fast. Have had it for almost 7 months. One problem I have had is that it crashes out of the OS and unchecks itself as the #1 boot prio in the BIOS. It has done that a few times now. It is worth the money spent, you dont have to choose one or the other, get both......not brain surgery
question guys. would you recommend 60GB SSD using SRT, 60GB SSD installing OS and programs or 30GB SSD using SRT because if the 30GB is comparable to the 60GB SRT and if they aren't too much slower than using a 60GB SSD for the OS, then I might go for the 30GB SSD. Also, do write and read speeds make a difference when using SRT technology? thanks guys
not worth buying an SSD for the next 10 years sicne there way expensive and cost more than a $2 per GB and if u want windows fast laod times jsut buy an asrock motherboard and use instant boot and games arent worth spending $200 on a SSD, il get one when they become more mainstream atm there morel uxury pc item
@MrFender032 SSD is apparently quicker at the majority of things as shown above ^
And it doesn't have anything rotating inside it. therefore making it silent.
but as also mentioned, It is alot more expensive per. GB.
This video for example. The Solid State Drive(SSD) is 200 GB and the Hard drive (HDD) 1tb, or 1000 GB. and they had a 800$ difference (SSD 900$-100$ HDD). I think i just said alot of what's to be said, most of it mentioned in the video. Okay? Okay.
@xFixD Yeah.. Price per GB has improved alot... I'm considering actually getting 2 SSds but debating to wait untill 2012... but I want one b4 the world ends
@xFixD PS OCZ is currently releasing 1tb SSDs (although I've heard it isnt going to be good at all they just quickly releasing products to get some media attention not literally the mediabut to the PC world. Due to the fact theres been so much negativity towards there SSDs, overclockers dizot com is the website I saw about it.. Very good site helped me build my PC actually...
SSD is only a few seconds farther than HDD , not a big difference, and SSD doesn't have much memory, so HDD wins, you can get 3TB nowadays, maybe more, i dunno, have to check, but SSD is low on memory and only a few before HDD, so HDD wins, not a big loss in those seconds, but in memory...big gain, the SSD still has to mature, then it would be cool to have it.
@BIOSHOCKFOXX SSD could work if wee take the OS (operating system) on SSD and all other files on HDD, then it would be great, fast PC with lot's of memory, but it will cost a double, that's the bad thing when wee think about prices after wee think about performance and quality, so it's not so good to buy an SSD and put it with HDD like i said about OS putting on SSD and stuff on HDD. Now when i think harder, only startup etc., will be faster, but programs will open on HDD...so it means slower.
Yes ssds are expensive but fast to. just buy a 120gb ssd for 140 $. like a corsair force 3 it is sata 3 ready and got speeds of 550/500. perfect. your system and apps will run perfect. but use a hhd for your media and you games. but a fast one ( the fastest one ) spinpoint f3/f4
lol one thing you missed in the info about an SSD compared to a standard mechanical drive is the fact that a mechanical drive is more stable and long lived then a SSD, under continuous read and right (eg repeatedly over righting files with new copy's) the chips become burned out very quick and fail under toughs conditions! so really do you want slower speeds but a more stable drive that lasts longer or a fast drive that will be dead in 3-5 years time that's my view ill take the slower one!
@arjennovic i'm pretty sure he's telling you the weight in case you came to this video with the idea of putting an ssd in a laptop, where it matters..
@arjennovic who is caring his Desktop ? he means something like, if you have to take it out, it's easier to place it somewhere in pocket not like a HDD brick.
correct me if I am wrong, but except for the launching time, which is basically finding the file in your storage, and loading it into the ram. It doesn't improve in any way the performance of an application. So if you play one game on two exactly similar pc, with the exception of one is with ssd, and one is with hdd. The difference would only be in the loading time of your game.
@L5XJX Correct. The only benefit from SSDs are the load times from the read and write speeds. This includes installing. I installed Avid in an insanely short amount of time. And my pc boots in 10 seconds. I hold all my other "junk" on my WD HDD.
I bought two 500gb caviar blacks and they are super fast since I put it in raid 0 mode. I don't think paying $114 for a 60gb ssd is worth it. Also, SSD is super unstable and will not function properly under windows 7. Have you guys tried seeing how many times it crashes?
@geekhater360 I have my SSD as the boot drive for Windows 7. They work fine with Windows 7, you just have to make a lot of tweaks, which is the slightly annoying part. Also, there's a lot of bad SSD makers. The only one that seems reliable is Crucial. OCZ apparently are terrible SSDs because like you mention, notoriously unstable.
@tiotito31 Thanks for the reply. I recently did a ton of research and like you said, manufacturers matter. OCZ makes cheap ones but they are terrible. The best SSD in my opinion is currently Kingston Hyperx 120 or 240gb SSDs. They have great ratings and best reliability according to most reviewers.
OCZ suck. $900 will get you a Sandforce controller that WILL FAIL on you very soon. Crucial M4 is the only way to go. Yes the Sandforce is technically faster, but at a severe cost of reliability. So his claim of it being more reliable than a WD is bullshit.
@bumblefoot2004 We aren't dealing with a physical disk and a physical arm that has to reach over and access the physical location. It’s all non-moving solid state.
Using the SSD, you’ll be doing a whole bunch of reading and writing to move stuff from one random order to another random order, causing wear to the flash cells in the process anyway. Defragmenting places an extra unnecessary burden on the cells and indexing system of the drive increasing wear, reducing durability. Thanks
I've been considering upgrading to an SSD for awhiel now. Today I was browssing them on Newegg and noticed what seemed a very high failure rate. Now I'm reconsidering maybe going with a VelociRaptor instead.
SSD do have a shorter lifespan than HDD and also the pagefile will bun it quicker.
I suggest using a 100gb SSD for the main drive for the OS. Then use the fat asses HDD in 1tb+ as your second /3rd etc.
This way the OS and AV and whatever else is lightning fast. Then your bulk goes to the fat ass drive. Pagefile(if you care for it at all), movies, games, porn(you know you have it =P) etc..
@WildBuck007 you sure about what you say there? games on ssd? dont they need to be on the OS drive to work? i though so, and if you can install a game on the hdd but play it from the ssd..... your really good, games like arma2 or other games with large maps wont load fast with a hdd, and whats the point of a ssd if your gonna have all your stuff on an hdd? and like you say, a cheap one
i would buy a 1000-1500rpm hdd of 600gb with a 100~ gb sdd for sure, who needs 1TB? if so, get another
You can put games or anything else on an SSD. The SSD is the same thing as any hard drive. It just uses chipsets instead of moving parts; a disc plate. It is basically turning RAM into a hard drive to gain the speed and damage resistance.
To also correct your misinformation. RPM speed is irrelevant with SSD as SSD's do not have moving parts. Thus the speed is 7 times or faster than any current HDD.
@WildBuck007 you dint understand anything i said it looks like....
i told you, how can you put your games on the hard drive(your second drive) but play them from your ssd(your boot drive)
the rpm was regarding the hdd, 15000rpm is a server hdd, hdd lasts longer then ssd, unless you only use 1/4 of your ssd all the time, if your looking at putting it into a laptop, its only better cuss it can resist to physical damage better then an hdd
but 15000rpm hdd in raid0 should get you around 200mb/s
I only use an HDD for my games. I just use a strict gaming computer so I run nothing else but Skype. Eerything else is on my lap top. I could care less about 5 less seconds of waiting.
sickofposerkids 16 hours ago
the SSD was almost empty, the harddrive was almost full, kinda unfair imo
WilliamSunmo 1 day ago
@WilliamSunmo I agree, of course the more you have on a data device, the slower it become.
Dreambro1 1 day ago
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Quick Question if your motherboard does not support SATA-III 6 gb/s could I use a Syba SATA III PCIe card to hook the SSD to so I can load OS at SATA III Speeds? Or do i have to upgrade the motherboard all together.
mcraska25 1 day ago
Lmao at all the people who are saying it's not worth it. It's fucking annoying when your running 7 applications and the 8th one takes forever because your hdd is spinning like a little 4 year kid when he's had too much sugar. Not to mention SSD's now last just as long as HDD's and are much less prone to failure due to no moving parts. Sure they cost more, but having a 10second boot time and no loading screens and much faster read and write speeds, it's really worth it. OCZ Vertex 3 -3
NGUpremier 3 days ago
10 seconds less load up time is NOT worth the $3,000 per Gig (over exageration but warrented) you pay for an SSD. Way over priced.
phantumgrey 4 days ago
Quick question how do I test the read/write speed of my SSD? I have a OCZ vertex 3, which should be 550/500 MB/s. Also is there any way, without taking the cover off, I can find out if its going through the sata III not the sata II.
6441007 4 days ago
Just get an SSD for your os and a few games and that's it simple
64gb will do for os and games
Aymdicate 4 days ago
im buying a gaming computer and the hard drive is 512GB 6Gb/s Solid State Drive is that enough memory and is fast enough to play games, im new to pc gaming
jasonf236 4 days ago
@jasonf236 that's a waste of an ssd i think. modern hard drives are plenty fast for the money you would save. don't get me wrong and ssd is great. for what a ssd that size would cost, you can easily put a 64 gig ssd to boot from and install the games to a 0 raid setup and have change. it's your dime though so do what you want, and yeah that would be enough space to install a bunch of games and run an o/s.
blueovalfan23 4 days ago
If SSD's just weren't so expensive.,,
CreepyPigMinecraft 5 days ago
@CreepyPigMinecraft They'll go down soon enough.
markmck2 5 days ago
LOL 1,000 dollars for 200gb!
MADdrummer971 5 days ago
@MADdrummer971 No, 900 dollars...
xBanANUS 2 days ago
@xBanANUS Still cost alot. >.>
MADdrummer971 2 days ago
@MADdrummer971 Hell yeah ಠ_ಠ
xBanANUS 2 days ago
check 2:30 the HDD have much more data on it, if not, it will be the SSD on the left and the HDD on the right..!!!!!!
JubranHanna 6 days ago
good ! SSD
Hubblehack 6 days ago
who cares if my pcs lighter, im not paying 4grand so i can have a 1t ssd and my computer if 500grams lighter.
joshuamelse 1 week ago
Is that a BenQ monitor? Looks great.
kledder2 1 week ago
should i get a force gt 120gb hard drive and later upgrade and have a 1 tb also or 1tb first then upgrade with a 120gb
crazychainsaw007 1 week ago
1333 likes :D
MiXeDGaMeR1 1 week ago
Nah, ill get a slightly bettar GPU now, and a SSD later, when the prices have dropped. Great test btw.
xVirusPC 1 week ago
AVG eww
FriendInMyHead 1 week ago
1tb for $100... makes me sad
SuperChingchongwah 1 week ago
2:37 half of the 1TB HDD in use and in ssd about 1/5.. Kind of makes difference, but meh ofcourse SSD is faster :)
fonillius 1 week ago
If i had a 15000 rpm 1TB HDD and a 128gb SDD, i will install my Os on Sdd, and the HDD for storage of stuffs something like that, simple,
YvesWonGhz17 1 week ago
ssd is lighter than hdd... if theres any component of a computer thats lighter than a hdd is the ram... grams :/
pixle500 2 weeks ago
I cant even load Left 4 dead...
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wow didn't think it would make much difference, but i wow wrong
spyshocker 2 weeks ago
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spyshocker 2 weeks ago
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If I only put windows on the SSD and nothing else, and all my other programs on a HDD, would all the programs in the taskbar and stuff still load quick? I don't mean the actual boot up time of the programs themselves (because ofcourse only windows is on the SSD), but would I still have to wait that extra minute after windows has booted up before I can actually use my computer?
thomasBLAKEINATORMAT 2 weeks ago
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thomasBLAKEINATORMAT 2 weeks ago
with HDD I got optimised boot up in 15sec and down in 10sec. how much faster would that optimised boot get with SSD? Anyone?
rothkoaintdead 2 weeks ago
@rothkoaintdead
~3-7 seconds faster.
thehumor 2 weeks ago
lol at 1;50 Double Play xD
GT4tube 2 weeks ago
i got an SSD, but ithink i should have choosen a better model (intel ssd 320 80gb)
TheNinwii 2 weeks ago
I have a question, probably a stupid one. I'm using a normal HD at the moment with all my stuff on it such as steam files. If I were to add an SSD while keeping my HD, would I have to transfer everything onto the SSD from my HD so they'll run faster, or would I be able to just go into the HD and run stuff from there while on the SSD to get SSD speed?
PSPISOGAME 2 weeks ago
@PSPISOGAME The files you're loading need to be on the SSD if you want SSD speed, obviously. You'd have to move your game files to the SSD if you want the SSD speed in your games. The files on you HD will still load at normal HD speed.
antiHUMANDesigns 2 weeks ago
lol ssd make me laugh unless i was rich and i went to St Thomas Aquanis high school and my parents were Alumni from the University of Miami and owned part of South Beach and i took my fathers lamborghini out on sundays im Buying a freaking HDD. thanks for the video though :D
roeroe305 3 weeks ago
@roeroe305 I just got an ssd 256 gb for $100 which is more than enough size if you are using the primary hard drive for what it's for. AKA programs. ANything else you can use an external for.
DarthRane113 2 weeks ago
Yup. 15 seconds is worth $200...
0oDarkLordRevano0 3 weeks ago
do that with a new ssd one with over 256mb say 1gb/s
kc88kc 3 weeks ago
not impressed
flashfith 3 weeks ago
remember folks this is only a SATA II drive with SATA III this would be monumentally faster.
Jamesey162 3 weeks ago
@Jamesey162 You still have moving parts to deal with no moving parts vs moving there is no competition.It's like comparing the fastest sprinter against the fastest sports car.
DarthRane113 2 weeks ago
I only have a 80gb Hard Drive HDD :(
Simzak951 3 weeks ago
@Simzak951 iknowthatfeelbro.jpg
09666slayer 3 weeks ago
Yeah im gonna wait til they are cheaper and more advanced
nineheads1 3 weeks ago
The hard drive should bve a WD [insert name of species] drive, the one with a heatsink and the drive is inset.
jishan22 3 weeks ago
100$ vs 900$ would it not be better to buy 800$ worth of extra cpu and gpu and have the extra space???
5uphiKaner 3 weeks ago 5
@5uphiKaner You don't buy ssds for storage, that's what hard drives are for. Ssds is used for operating systems and programs.
Niemtol2 3 weeks ago 8
@Niemtol2 what im trying to say is that 800$ ssd vs 800$ extra cpu&gpu me my self would wait a bit longer for load times and with my better cpu & gpu enjoy higher fps
but its kinda down to how you use your computer if you want faster load times go with ssd if you want better processing & graphical power go with a better cpu & gpu unless your rich and can afford both ;)
5uphiKaner 3 weeks ago
Is it true if you use a SSD and a normal HD at the same rate, the SSD dies out first?
xUnlimitzx 3 weeks ago
@xUnlimitzx Depends on rate. HDD's last 3-5 years no matter how much data you write to them, while SSD's lifetime depends only on amounts of written data. So, if you write low amounts of data (read: you're average user) SSD can last even 5 times longer than HDD, but if you're writing terabytes of data every day then HDD will last more.
ShadowwwLFS 3 weeks ago
@defectedsalvations - yes and also that's 1 of the reasons that I'm thinking of buying 1 :D
thehadley98 3 weeks ago
Lol kids, below me
nintendonick 4 weeks ago
So would a SSD fix SKYRIM problems ?
DefectedSalvations 4 weeks ago
ive watched a few of your videos includin the OC videos and you make um really well, explain everythin properly etc, cheers
McBeagleHound 1 month ago
si j'ai le choix entre ssd et hd je prendrai ssd !!!
a condition qu'il soit a prix équivalent et capacitié équivalente en attendant les prix et les CAPAITE de stockage ^^
Fear58000 1 month ago
Those alt tab test are better for ssd because of page file. But there are ways around it with hdd
CZRonUTube 1 month ago
My HDD boots Win7 in 7 Sec´s
And Alt-tab is instant
5ty44 1 month ago
if i have my OS on my SSD and the game im playing (BF3) on my SSD too and then record my gameplay video's to my HDD give me higher FPS instead of having the OS and BF3 on the HDD and recording it to the SSD? Please respond? :D
Buttfuckbysquirl 1 month ago
@Buttfuckbysquirl @CrazyWeno video recording of 1080p for example, would still not need a write speed more than what your HDD can offer, so recording to your HDD will work just as well as your SSD. And as far as performance of the game itself, it doesn't matter what you are running it off from, because the difference you'll see is while the game LOADS a map textures etc. You won't see a "higher FPS" if you run the game from the SSD compared to the HDD, that depends on your GPU.
pashaahsj 1 month ago
@pashaahsj while recording with fraps @ constant FPS?
Buttfuckbysquirl 1 month ago
@Buttfuckbysquirl Yes I do it all the time i have like 2 and a half TB of video >__> cause i keep buffer record always on and aosdnfoasdnfasdfnsd filled up my whole 4TB :l
getting my 256GB Octane today so cleaning up my HDD's atm for a full new install.
pashaahsj 1 month ago
I am not trying to scare people away from getting SSDs. I am just trying to point out that it may not be as easy to recover data from SSDs vs HDs. If there are problems with my HD, I can probably be able to recover the data by myself. If there are problems with a SSD, I may have to ship that out to a professional (which may probably set you back for quite a few hundred bucks).
CrazyWeno 1 month ago
@CrazyWeno there aren't as many problems that arise from SSDs though, with no moving parts they are much more reliable. Also to get data off of a HDD it'll cost you more than 1000 dollars or some pretty advanced machines which probably cost a lot anyways...
noneabove1182 1 month ago
@noneabove1182 I understand that moving parts are likely to cause failures in HDD. On the brighter side, HDD would likely to make "funny" sounds prior to any major issues. That is usually a sign of failure-to-come. As for SSD, most failures would likely to occur internally and without prior notices. Living with a SSD is like a gamble everyday. (Though, I am not trying to discourage anyone from using it.) There had been a period of time where SSD weren't too reliable.
CrazyWeno 1 month ago
@noneabove1182 As for recovering data off of a HDD, it really depends on how it is damaged. I, once, had an old HDD with a burn circuit board. All I needed to do was to purchase another HDD of the same type, and swap the hardware out to my old HDD. I had spent around $50. So, that wasn't bad at all. If you ask me, how I am going to recover data off from a SSD. Honestly, I really don't know where to begin with.
CrazyWeno 1 month ago
@CrazyWeno I agree. He says huge difference, i see a delay of 5-20 sec that's not huge at all for me, and i saw friends crying because they lost data on SSD that they couldn't recover, i always managed to recover data from my old HDD drives, at this point in time the SSD is in his infant state, i would only recommend buying for OS and Games not for log term data storage, also it will be more time before this will really worth the trouble for me, i rather buy a CPU or GPU than buy an SSD.
AngelOnez 3 weeks ago
One thing about SSDs and regular HD is that they will fail at some point. And sometimes, they can fail without notices. If you don't do regular backups, then that would suck for you. And if that ever happens, it is unlikely that you can recover any data from a SSD. And depending on what the failure is on a regular HD, your chances of recovering any data is pretty high. One time I had a burn on the circuit board for my HD, all I needed was to switch out the hardware.
CrazyWeno 1 month ago
You spent a rediculous amount of money for 3 seconds of your life? can you really not wait 2 seconds for your pc to boot?
mclmatty 1 month ago
@mclmatty dude, your fucking retarded
aramoMusic 1 month ago
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ipeteagles 1 month ago
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@mclmatty you can either buy one ssd in a lifetime or buy 10 disc hard drives, hmmm.... less power usage... no moving parts so it's quiet? harder to lose data? i think ill pay more money for that
ipeteagles 1 month ago
you also forgot to say its considerablly less noisy to have ssd vs hdd
wojtekc27 1 month ago
you should just copy and paste the .jpg search
wojtekc27 1 month ago
Thumbs up for the lizard hat :)
aramoMusic 1 month ago 19
Also, every time I go up to CompUsa I end up having a laugh because they are a price joke and I refuse to purchase anything that you have to mail in a rebate. Not long ago the store used to handle the mail in rebate but passed it to the customer. Just shop at NewEgg where there is no overhead, tax and free shipping.
kpreston69 1 month ago
Seriously, do what is smart.
Unless they drop the price to reasonable then forget about them and let Bill Gates or other rich to buy them. There is no reason to get one. Are you that hard up for 20 extra seconds of speed? The industry can overtake Standard HD's but they seriously can't make them cheaper? If people pay 200x more than standard hd's then why drop the price? Think about it.
If I can get people to pay $500 instead of $99 I will sell my shit for $500. Stop buying them.
kpreston69 1 month ago
I just bought 4 Terrabytes for $199. Traditionally I can be at ease with the fact that this will last 3 or more years without fail. The 4 Ter Seagate is also a fast sucker that sits in the same space as a 250 gig. I think I can wait the extra 20 seconds. Also my boot time is around 32 seconds till actual use.
That saying, hell yea I would rather have SSD's I wish they would replace HD's unfortunately the market dictates. Seriously, every time I go to buy one the price is still too high.
kpreston69 1 month ago
@kpreston69 eventually those 4TBs will get full or almost, which will be much slower than what speeds they have now. but yeah, i have 6.5TB HDD and 120GB SSD as boot (and some programs) drive. never going back
atlaswingpasaway 1 month ago
@kpreston69 How come the price u paid so low? I thought 2TB is 200$ due to Thailand incident
buonchieuphoco 1 month ago
@buonchieuphoco Well, I suspected that prices might go up so I went and bought one.
I picked up a Go Flex 4 ter and pulled it out of the case and use it as a regular drive.
Format it to GPT and if you want to boot from it your bios has to be UEFI and has to be a 64 bit version of windows. All for $199. So 12 ter for $600 and what will $600 buy in SSD? Maybe 240 megs if you can find it. 12 Ter will back up your entire life for years to come. Are you that impatient to spend $.
kpreston69 1 month ago
@kpreston69 Yeah, i c. You are smart. I just luckily got 1tb Hard drive before prices go up like crazy. 12TB is epic dude
buonchieuphoco 1 month ago
Test out 15000rpm drive against ssd
pavy415 1 month ago 52
@pavy415 ssd...
pro353 1 month ago
@pavy415 the main advantage of a SSD is the faster accestime, you don't get that with a 15000 RPM drive. And btw, I'd rather not have a fucking earthquake next to me.
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@pavy415 OCZ RevoDrive3 X2 960GB SSD PCI-Express x4 test this one with a simple hard drive with 15k rmp :)
sugamwtoxristo 1 month ago
@pavy415 so unreliable and unefficient
ilikejumpstyle 3 weeks ago
i think the "search speed" criteria at 2:35 is irelevant because the hdd has more info on it than the ssd (you can see that from the windows capacity bar on the screens).
except that...NICE VIDEO!
grioo7 1 month ago
I Run a 112 GB Force GT Corsair for my OS and boot and a 3 T SATA III Drive for my data and my system is rediculously fast. Have had it for almost 7 months. One problem I have had is that it crashes out of the OS and unchecks itself as the #1 boot prio in the BIOS. It has done that a few times now. It is worth the money spent, you dont have to choose one or the other, get both......not brain surgery
dgreybruce 1 month ago
nice video man...
mikeking087 1 month ago
What rpm was the regular hard drive?
pavy415 1 month ago
Sweet, i can shave NOT ONLY 1 second of load time, but my PC also loses 50 grams?!? Screw 1TB break me off a piece of that SSD bro!
wolfenthegreat 1 month ago
only if the price of SSDs drop to $0.3/GB then i'll consider buying one.
It's pretty outrageous paying over $100 just for waiting 3 or 4 seconds less.
JChan1026 1 month ago
@JChan1026 People who do video editing and encoding/decoding go for SSD's.. it's not just for windows boot.
dajusta87 1 month ago
Onyx 32GB on mac run's faster than that!
tino730 1 month ago
this video is really good
FunAndJokes 1 month ago
I think I kinda wanna wait 10 seconds and save a few hundred dollars...
xNJLM 1 month ago
question guys. would you recommend 60GB SSD using SRT, 60GB SSD installing OS and programs or 30GB SSD using SRT because if the 30GB is comparable to the 60GB SRT and if they aren't too much slower than using a 60GB SSD for the OS, then I might go for the 30GB SSD. Also, do write and read speeds make a difference when using SRT technology? thanks guys
DeeoftheWhy3 1 month ago
i want to put your brain in my head, but my brain is much more expensive because its slightly used
KamenRiderBlackSun 1 month ago
my HDD is 8600 rpm lol
WLOfails 1 month ago
not worth buying an SSD for the next 10 years sicne there way expensive and cost more than a $2 per GB and if u want windows fast laod times jsut buy an asrock motherboard and use instant boot and games arent worth spending $200 on a SSD, il get one when they become more mainstream atm there morel uxury pc item
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0oDarkLordRevano0 2 months ago 6
@0oDarkLordRevano0 all ssd's have at least 3-5 years of warranty.. go check it out
dajusta87 1 month ago
@0oDarkLordRevano0 That's why you get a warranty.
TheKingdomofErnor 1 month ago
nice cap XD
maximilianbeggel 2 months ago
@maximilianbeggel XD
Cartman5101 1 month ago
Good video- thanks!
Allison9521 2 months ago
1,000GB hard drive? I'd hate it if it were 1024GB. :|
Hljott 2 months ago
Whats the difference between the Hard Drive and the SSD ?
MrFender032 2 months ago
@MrFender032 SSD is apparently quicker at the majority of things as shown above ^
And it doesn't have anything rotating inside it. therefore making it silent.
but as also mentioned, It is alot more expensive per. GB.
This video for example. The Solid State Drive(SSD) is 200 GB and the Hard drive (HDD) 1tb, or 1000 GB. and they had a 800$ difference (SSD 900$-100$ HDD). I think i just said alot of what's to be said, most of it mentioned in the video. Okay? Okay.
Aztekninja123 2 months ago
Thanks Linus...very helpful as always
jimmyakakev 2 months ago
Wow.. Now a 100 GB is not insanely high as it was on this vid.
Cashmachinez 2 months ago
@Cashmachinez there up to like 250gb, maybe 500 now :p im suprised how quickly they've improved tbh.
xFixD 2 months ago
@xFixD Yeah.. Price per GB has improved alot... I'm considering actually getting 2 SSds but debating to wait untill 2012... but I want one b4 the world ends
Cashmachinez 2 months ago
@xFixD PS OCZ is currently releasing 1tb SSDs (although I've heard it isnt going to be good at all they just quickly releasing products to get some media attention not literally the mediabut to the PC world. Due to the fact theres been so much negativity towards there SSDs, overclockers dizot com is the website I saw about it.. Very good site helped me build my PC actually...
Cashmachinez 2 months ago
SSD is only a few seconds farther than HDD , not a big difference, and SSD doesn't have much memory, so HDD wins, you can get 3TB nowadays, maybe more, i dunno, have to check, but SSD is low on memory and only a few before HDD, so HDD wins, not a big loss in those seconds, but in memory...big gain, the SSD still has to mature, then it would be cool to have it.
BIOSHOCKFOXX 2 months ago
@BIOSHOCKFOXX SSD could work if wee take the OS (operating system) on SSD and all other files on HDD, then it would be great, fast PC with lot's of memory, but it will cost a double, that's the bad thing when wee think about prices after wee think about performance and quality, so it's not so good to buy an SSD and put it with HDD like i said about OS putting on SSD and stuff on HDD. Now when i think harder, only startup etc., will be faster, but programs will open on HDD...so it means slower.
BIOSHOCKFOXX 2 months ago
$900 for ssd? no thanks, I would rather build a nice gaming PC for $900.
2point6x4 2 months ago
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2:30 The ssd pc has less files on it!, that have to be cheating ?
Andorsen 2 months ago
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Andorsen 2 months ago
What is the BEST size SSD for Win 7 ultimate 64bit ? would a 64,80 or 128GB ? thx
optimaloptimusprimus 2 months ago
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i need help !!! first install windows on HDD and than on SSD ????
SuperPeppinu 2 months ago
What is that slight cracking I hear in the background?
PRODVDi 2 months ago
doesnt look like its worth the price difference
StylinRed 2 months ago
Yes ssds are expensive but fast to. just buy a 120gb ssd for 140 $. like a corsair force 3 it is sata 3 ready and got speeds of 550/500. perfect. your system and apps will run perfect. but use a hhd for your media and you games. but a fast one ( the fastest one ) spinpoint f3/f4
ComputerInfoChannel 2 months ago
so i can write my porn extremely fast :P
carifyme 2 months ago
The question is..... Will it blend?
Programmur 2 months ago
But will it blend?
FrogyL33T 2 months ago 12
lol one thing you missed in the info about an SSD compared to a standard mechanical drive is the fact that a mechanical drive is more stable and long lived then a SSD, under continuous read and right (eg repeatedly over righting files with new copy's) the chips become burned out very quick and fail under toughs conditions! so really do you want slower speeds but a more stable drive that lasts longer or a fast drive that will be dead in 3-5 years time that's my view ill take the slower one!
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im usen a ocz external ssd LOL
iwilpooponu 2 months ago
how impatient are people now? you can't wait 15 seconds? blink, you're there.
Burzum325 2 months ago 39
@Burzum325
You take an awefull long time to blink.
rickertK 1 month ago
@Burzum325 All adds up fool.
mmx527 1 month ago
@Burzum325 SSD is not just for booting. It's for better processing speed.
GameTrailersHD4U 1 month ago
@Burzum325 15 seconds is a bit to late to hide all the porn when someone comes in LOL
DubstepBubbles 1 month ago
@Burzum325 Its like floppy and CD, what would you rather have?
Danny7930 1 month ago
GTX 260 lame
MarbleDuck 2 months ago
I NEED AN SSD
rocklebest 3 months ago
Lol, SSD being light? I"M NOT CARRYING MY PC IN MY ARMS WHILE GAMING !! XD
arjennovic 3 months ago 56
@arjennovic Notebooks were also invented.
sebibence02 3 months ago
@arjennovic Laptop....?
chainy10 3 months ago
@arjennovic i'm pretty sure he's telling you the weight in case you came to this video with the idea of putting an ssd in a laptop, where it matters..
OriginalZero 2 months ago
@arjennovic and if u would have a laptop?
zReinis 2 months ago
@arjennovic haha you'r right
ajsawan 2 months ago
@arjennovic who is caring his Desktop ? he means something like, if you have to take it out, it's easier to place it somewhere in pocket not like a HDD brick.
BIOSHOCKFOXX 2 months ago
@arjennovic lol :D
CynicalSpheres 2 months ago
@arjennovic it helps when you are pissed off and throw the pc on the windows!!! \m/
TheViva1992 2 months ago in playlist Liked videos
@arjennovic it's more if your using a laptop
jeremiahcheng889 2 months ago
@arjennovic
dobar ti komentar/good koment :))
KRAJISNIK21 2 months ago
correct me if I am wrong, but except for the launching time, which is basically finding the file in your storage, and loading it into the ram. It doesn't improve in any way the performance of an application. So if you play one game on two exactly similar pc, with the exception of one is with ssd, and one is with hdd. The difference would only be in the loading time of your game.
L5XJX 3 months ago
@L5XJX Correct. The only benefit from SSDs are the load times from the read and write speeds. This includes installing. I installed Avid in an insanely short amount of time. And my pc boots in 10 seconds. I hold all my other "junk" on my WD HDD.
tiotito31 3 months ago
I'll stick with SATA 3 and USB 3.
superdeluxeultra 3 months ago
the computer on the left had more stuff on the hard drive! When he was on My Computer it had more blue in the little bar.
phlomal 3 months ago
so the second test to do is run LFD2 y?
snapper525 3 months ago
I bought two 500gb caviar blacks and they are super fast since I put it in raid 0 mode. I don't think paying $114 for a 60gb ssd is worth it. Also, SSD is super unstable and will not function properly under windows 7. Have you guys tried seeing how many times it crashes?
geekhater360 3 months ago
@geekhater360 I have my SSD as the boot drive for Windows 7. They work fine with Windows 7, you just have to make a lot of tweaks, which is the slightly annoying part. Also, there's a lot of bad SSD makers. The only one that seems reliable is Crucial. OCZ apparently are terrible SSDs because like you mention, notoriously unstable.
tiotito31 3 months ago
@tiotito31 Thanks for the reply. I recently did a ton of research and like you said, manufacturers matter. OCZ makes cheap ones but they are terrible. The best SSD in my opinion is currently Kingston Hyperx 120 or 240gb SSDs. They have great ratings and best reliability according to most reviewers.
geekhater360 2 months ago
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Honest question, I have hear that SSD have to be partitioned in a certain manner or your really slowing it down if done wrong?????
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OCZ suck. $900 will get you a Sandforce controller that WILL FAIL on you very soon. Crucial M4 is the only way to go. Yes the Sandforce is technically faster, but at a severe cost of reliability. So his claim of it being more reliable than a WD is bullshit.
svtbmg1 3 months ago
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you missed an important test: copying files
amilom007 3 months ago
thats my motheboard
generaldvonk 3 months ago
PLEASE DO NOT DEFRAGMENT YOUR SSD. EVER. DOING SO WILL SHORTEN THE LIFESPAN DRAMATICALLY.
UltimateProbot 3 months ago
@UltimateProbot Reason?
bumblefoot2004 3 months ago
@bumblefoot2004 We aren't dealing with a physical disk and a physical arm that has to reach over and access the physical location. It’s all non-moving solid state.
Using the SSD, you’ll be doing a whole bunch of reading and writing to move stuff from one random order to another random order, causing wear to the flash cells in the process anyway. Defragmenting places an extra unnecessary burden on the cells and indexing system of the drive increasing wear, reducing durability. Thanks
UltimateProbot 3 months ago
I've been considering upgrading to an SSD for awhiel now. Today I was browssing them on Newegg and noticed what seemed a very high failure rate. Now I'm reconsidering maybe going with a VelociRaptor instead.
mrpinkshirt4 3 months ago
SSD do have a shorter lifespan than HDD and also the pagefile will bun it quicker.
I suggest using a 100gb SSD for the main drive for the OS. Then use the fat asses HDD in 1tb+ as your second /3rd etc.
This way the OS and AV and whatever else is lightning fast. Then your bulk goes to the fat ass drive. Pagefile(if you care for it at all), movies, games, porn(you know you have it =P) etc..
WildBuck007 3 months ago 22
@WildBuck007 you sure about what you say there? games on ssd? dont they need to be on the OS drive to work? i though so, and if you can install a game on the hdd but play it from the ssd..... your really good, games like arma2 or other games with large maps wont load fast with a hdd, and whats the point of a ssd if your gonna have all your stuff on an hdd? and like you say, a cheap one
i would buy a 1000-1500rpm hdd of 600gb with a 100~ gb sdd for sure, who needs 1TB? if so, get another
5T34LTHcamoT4NK 3 months ago
@5T34LTHcamoT4NK
You can put games or anything else on an SSD. The SSD is the same thing as any hard drive. It just uses chipsets instead of moving parts; a disc plate. It is basically turning RAM into a hard drive to gain the speed and damage resistance.
To also correct your misinformation. RPM speed is irrelevant with SSD as SSD's do not have moving parts. Thus the speed is 7 times or faster than any current HDD.
Have a nice day =D
WildBuck007 3 months ago
@WildBuck007 you dint understand anything i said it looks like....
i told you, how can you put your games on the hard drive(your second drive) but play them from your ssd(your boot drive)
the rpm was regarding the hdd, 15000rpm is a server hdd, hdd lasts longer then ssd, unless you only use 1/4 of your ssd all the time, if your looking at putting it into a laptop, its only better cuss it can resist to physical damage better then an hdd
but 15000rpm hdd in raid0 should get you around 200mb/s
5T34LTHcamoT4NK 3 months ago
@5T34LTHcamoT4NK I think you meant to say "10,000-15,000 rpm" not 1,000-1500...
bumblefoot2004 3 months ago