Religion vs. Secularism - Western Europe, US and Israel

[MathiusDarcius]

Also you ramble a lot, please work on that, it wastes everyone's time. Try writing a script before you talk and don't read too much into Darwin, its more of a guideline, of evolution, not necessarily the actually route we took to get here. You need evidence to prove to rational people that Darwin's theory is anything less than fact. To paraphrase a quote from south park "maybe evolution doesn't give us the answer to why, but how"

[MathiusDarcius]

Secularism is one of the few forces that can keep the major religions from killing each in mass violence. As the Muslims grow, secularism keeps the government out of religion and religion out of government, you can always self-enforce your beliefs upon yourself. The Muslims culture have not yet been secularized, they will learn to live peacefully with the other religions or they will learn the hard way what happens to civilizations who don't secularize. Secularism is growing stronger than ever.

[bigbadnewman]

@MathiusDarcius

In all 60 centuries of modern human history, religion managed to kill between 3 million (according to the most religion-friendly academics) and 6 million (according to the most anti-religious academics). Bad, I'll grant you.

But in just 1 century (the 20th), the secular ideologies of nazism, marxism and maoism have maged to kill over 60 million. I good deal more than religion you'd have to admit.

[mons5555]

@bigbadnewman A famous story that happened to a relative and was repeated probably many times is about a Polish wagon driver who took a Jewish woman from one city to the next. Passing a church he did not cross himself. The woman cried out, "Oh, I forgot my money." The driver then returned to where they began, and the woman took out her money and paid him. "A smart Jew," said the driver. 'I was going to kill you."

[bigbadnewman]

@mons5555

I recall the tragic tale of a polish holocaust survivor who went back to warsaw in 1946 to look for relatives when a ten year old polack went and made up a story about seeing him kill a catholic boy. That poor Jew who had survived the holocaust was lynched by a mob lead by the catholic priest.

[osheaad]

Irrational nutcase; your arguments would not stand the test of scrutiny, need I say more, is it not obviously shaded and biased?

If secularism were wiped out because of the fault of it's residences, then it is its residences that failed secularism, not the other way.

Therefore, if the religionists win by might alone that does not prove the validity of religion; only the strength of it's residence to continue it, even though it is irrational and unfounded; the basis God uncertain and unprovabl

[geordieracer222]

darwin has nothing to do with the saying survival of the fittest.it was first coined by herbert spencer. darwin did not fuel the holocaust as well to reference another one of your videos. there is a difference between darwins theory of evolution by natural selection and social darwinism. as i mentioned it was herbert spencer who coined survival of the fittest the only thing darwin has to do with darwinism is his name has been used that is it

[JennyFarlopez]

By the way, if I grew a beard and wore a stupid hat, would I also qualify to express my oppinions about stuff I obviously don't know shit about?

[JennyFarlopez]

As people become less educated, they turn more to religion. Religion offers quick and false answers to questions noone has made.

I feel sorry for every human that's been brainwashed to believe fairy tales over testable reality.

[mons5555]

I am sure you have tested the theory that the Big Bang produced a dot from nothing. My point in the video is that this is contrary to a basic law of physics that matter cannot be created or destroyed. But if you talk filth, as you did in your earlier post, you don't have to think.

[JennyFarlopez]

That's a strawman. If you don't understand how the scientific method works nor what scientific theories actually tell us, you'd better keep quiet instead of embarrassing yourself in public.

I once thought religious people were a source of wisdom who used their knowledge about the human condition to relief suffering, and didn't care about anything else.

Instead, what I found is a bunch of arrogant wordly-minded pricks who are more interested in politics and spreading lies than in metaphysics.

[mons5555]

I am sorry that you are disappointed in religious people. I have discussed, at length, my ideas about physics with a professor at Columbia. He did not talk like you did. The Anthropic Theorem posits that the universe was designed for people. To me, it sounds like Creation. That is physics, the latest findings.

[JennyFarlopez]

The Anthropic Principle (not theorem) states that the laws of physics must be compatible with the existence of intelligent observers, or otherwise there wouldn't be observers to discuss the issue.

It doesn't say that the uiverse was "designed" nor than it is especially suited for life nor intelligence. It is a mere phylosophical tautology.

[mons5555]

You support Israel and this is surely appreciated. On the other hand, theological beliefs in religious people are very influential. When you believe that people are damned and will burn in Hell, is that loving them? My point in the video is precisely to bare this problem. Religions of the world do condemn Jews for their religion, and from that, it is easy to accept Jewish suffering.  G-d will not tolerate those who deny His oath to protect Israel. Do you believe that?

[eichone]

As a Christian fundamentalist, I support Israel 100%. Why Christians and Jews are enemies I do not know. So we have theological differences, is this enough to hate one another?