To all those non-Somali folks who want to make sense out of this phenomena...the reason why young Somali males have recently started to go back to Somalia and fight was because Ethiopia (Somalia's arch enemy) invaded that war-torn country back in 2006. All Somalis felt that Ethiopia's actions was equivalent to kicking a man while he was down. That was a low-blow move on the behalf of Ethiopia, especially when Ethiopia has 85 million people and Somalia has only about 8-10 million people.
You can put it that way too. Yet why joining gangs that are literally operating in cutthroat business? It seems t here was a good reason why Ethiopia got involved in all that mess as well...
Al-shabab took advantage of their sense of nationalism. When the Ethiopians withdrew, most of those young men felt their fight was over. Al-shabab would ask them "You can't just leave now...you're branded as a terrorist around the world." or "If you leave, you'll be considered as a traitor and traitors deserve death." Now you got stories where young men are telling their harrowing stories of how they escaped from these fanatical militants. Majority of Somalis are anti-Alshabab.
I dont doubt that a majority of people would like to live a normal life, whether Somali or not. The problem is, those radical groups use a plethora of demagogic techniques and some people unfortunately succumb to the induced pressures. Indeed, if those groups manage to impose their will on the society, people who disagree with them practically must fear for their lives, even if they constitute a potential majority. Thats literally "Despotism 101"...
Al Shabab brought some peace in Somalia, but America made a way for Ethiopia to destroy it's peace.
Those Somalis are going back to Somalia to fight for it's peace under Islam, they want peace for Somalia not to attack US and I don't know about Al Qaida but many Middle Eastern countries has supported them.
No, America - we should rather say the "World Community", since it aint about America, they just happen to be involved - cant leave them alone, teawead. Terror camps, piracy and exporting Jihad is a "no-no"...
I don't know what proof you have but Al-Shabab ended piracy, it ended the long bloody civil war and it boost the already weakest economy but now it's in ruins, the civil war is continuing. Yeah, thank that to America.
And they are exporting Somalis to go and fight for SOMALIA not against the States, boy you people should just leave Somalia alone.
America failed to stop the civil war, now they want to make an Afghanistan in Somalia.
Ended? Yeah, in one way it ended the civil war, in another way it started training and exporting Jihad. America is not responsible for stopping civil wars. Its much more about the local people and their willingness to concede and seek forgivness and reconciliation. Exchanging one croocked regime for another aint "in" anymore. The Islamists should find another home...
Piracy? Just google the numbers, I mean seriously, check out some sources like the International Commercial Crime Services...
If america had stopped funding and training ethiopian troops 2 invade our country and kill our people.none of this would have happened. now they can live in fear all they want its their mistake. wat do they expect us 2 do get killed and not fight back you havnt learnt anythin bout somali people in 1993 did you americans?. leave us alone and maybe you wnt have some of those brave boys 2 come back and conduct what you call terrorist acts. They went back 2 fight their enemies and we have the rights
Oh... So its America again. I would say its a home made mess in Somalia. Why do you think they are funding Ethiopian troops? Indeed, its because of the mess in Somalia and not vice versa. Conspiracy theories wont do it. Becoming brainwashed and joining pathetic jihad aint brave, its utterly stupid
Rights? What rights? Doing stupid things guarantees you the right to be killed in action. Thats all...
My heart breaks for that mother, may she find peace.
amnah10000 3 months ago
To all those non-Somali folks who want to make sense out of this phenomena...the reason why young Somali males have recently started to go back to Somalia and fight was because Ethiopia (Somalia's arch enemy) invaded that war-torn country back in 2006. All Somalis felt that Ethiopia's actions was equivalent to kicking a man while he was down. That was a low-blow move on the behalf of Ethiopia, especially when Ethiopia has 85 million people and Somalia has only about 8-10 million people.
wabdinur 1 year ago
@wabdinur
You can put it that way too. Yet why joining gangs that are literally operating in cutthroat business? It seems t here was a good reason why Ethiopia got involved in all that mess as well...
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@Wrath0fKhan
Al-shabab took advantage of their sense of nationalism. When the Ethiopians withdrew, most of those young men felt their fight was over. Al-shabab would ask them "You can't just leave now...you're branded as a terrorist around the world." or "If you leave, you'll be considered as a traitor and traitors deserve death." Now you got stories where young men are telling their harrowing stories of how they escaped from these fanatical militants. Majority of Somalis are anti-Alshabab.
wabdinur 1 year ago
@wabdinur
I dont doubt that a majority of people would like to live a normal life, whether Somali or not. The problem is, those radical groups use a plethora of demagogic techniques and some people unfortunately succumb to the induced pressures. Indeed, if those groups manage to impose their will on the society, people who disagree with them practically must fear for their lives, even if they constitute a potential majority. Thats literally "Despotism 101"...
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
@wabdinur
Obviously education is the only viable solution and if you have any links to the "community" and your situation allows you to, you should help out...
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
Al Shabab brought some peace in Somalia, but America made a way for Ethiopia to destroy it's peace.
Those Somalis are going back to Somalia to fight for it's peace under Islam, they want peace for Somalia not to attack US and I don't know about Al Qaida but many Middle Eastern countries has supported them.
God, can't America just leave them alone.
teawead 2 years ago
No, America - we should rather say the "World Community", since it aint about America, they just happen to be involved - cant leave them alone, teawead. Terror camps, piracy and exporting Jihad is a "no-no"...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
I don't know what proof you have but Al-Shabab ended piracy, it ended the long bloody civil war and it boost the already weakest economy but now it's in ruins, the civil war is continuing. Yeah, thank that to America.
And they are exporting Somalis to go and fight for SOMALIA not against the States, boy you people should just leave Somalia alone.
America failed to stop the civil war, now they want to make an Afghanistan in Somalia.
teawead 2 years ago
Ended? Yeah, in one way it ended the civil war, in another way it started training and exporting Jihad. America is not responsible for stopping civil wars. Its much more about the local people and their willingness to concede and seek forgivness and reconciliation. Exchanging one croocked regime for another aint "in" anymore. The Islamists should find another home...
Piracy? Just google the numbers, I mean seriously, check out some sources like the International Commercial Crime Services...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
Somalis are delusional.
lamrof 2 years ago 4
way to generalize. BITCH
teawead 2 years ago
I made a video about this
I am an Atheist and former Muslim convert
I was in Iraq with Ansar al-Islam
I studied in Cairo with al-Haramain due to recruitment efforts by them in NZ
I made a video about this issue and I also outed a former(?) Islamic militant who I knew and posted his details on my website
cwar068 2 years ago 8
If your situation allows you to educate all the people you can reach about those dangerous islamist/jihadi ideologies, please do so. Thank you...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago
I'll do my best :)
cwar068 2 years ago 5
me 2
MrChrisrocker1 2 years ago
@cwar068 Wow.
If this is true, then your story is truly amazing.
RJhasFLOW 1 year ago
Maskin ilahey ha u naxariisto
malaaq50 2 years ago
If america had stopped funding and training ethiopian troops 2 invade our country and kill our people.none of this would have happened. now they can live in fear all they want its their mistake. wat do they expect us 2 do get killed and not fight back you havnt learnt anythin bout somali people in 1993 did you americans?. leave us alone and maybe you wnt have some of those brave boys 2 come back and conduct what you call terrorist acts. They went back 2 fight their enemies and we have the rights
StraightouttaSomalia 2 years ago
Oh... So its America again. I would say its a home made mess in Somalia. Why do you think they are funding Ethiopian troops? Indeed, its because of the mess in Somalia and not vice versa. Conspiracy theories wont do it. Becoming brainwashed and joining pathetic jihad aint brave, its utterly stupid
Rights? What rights? Doing stupid things guarantees you the right to be killed in action. Thats all...
Wrath0fKhan 2 years ago