Holy crap! Is that REALLY what you think capitalism is? So it has nothing to do with each individual deciding what they want and pursuing it? Every other alternative to capitalism involves someone else deciding FOR the individual. Noone's keeping people from growning their own food or starting their own business. Capitalism is the reason that a black person in the US is better off than a white person nearly every other part of the world. We have freedom that they dont.
@playaplayag7 No, Capitalism depends on PREVENTING billions of individuals from being able to decide what they want and pursuing it. As I alluded to in the video, Capitalism was built on slavery, mass theft of land, genocides and relentless warring. The standard of living in the US which you are so (ludicrously) proud of is only mad epossible BECAUSE billions of people around the world are forced to live in poverty by the global Capitalism system...
@AfricansArise Lol.. Huge straw men you're creating. Capitalism was built on maximizing economic efficiency. Please take an econ class and please dont do the whole "corporations, corporations, evil corporations" routine on me. And you're last sentence is just pure nonsense. The standard of living in the USA has been rising since the 1800s, when the US was very isolationist. Take a trip to Cuba and enjoy your socialist utopia
@shotsky94 Europe and the US depended on slavery first and then colonialism to enalbe them to build Capitalism. This is just simple historical fact. And no, the standard of living in the US has been consistently falling over the past 30 years - for the majority of people. But for those at the top, yes, I'm sure it's been rising for centuries now.
@AfricansArise Wrong again. Standard of living has NOT been falling for the average americans. Real wages may have stagnated for a period of time due to poor management of monetary policy by the Fed. But standard of living has not been consistently falling. This is nothing more than a bullshit lie. Under just about every reliable metric available, living standards have not been falling. GDP per Capita, GDP, Nominal Wages, Real Wages, etc...
@AfricansArise Slavery in the US was only practiced in the south and was a very inefficient system. Economic growth was much higher in the North. So, to build our argument that the system of capitalism was built on slavery is fallacious. It is akin to saying that communism was built on mass murder, destruction of private property, forced labour, etc. It is a fallacious statement. Communism was built on the ideas of collectivism and protection of labour from exploitation.
@playaplayag7 And having said that, the fact that the standard of living that Africans in the US "enjoy" may be better than what Africans experience in, say, Nigeria is DESPITE Capitalism, not because of it. Africans and others have had to fight tooth and nail for centuries to get some crumbs from the table of the Capitalists. And what we are seeing now is the Capitalists looking to put Africans (and working people in general) bakc where they think they belong...
@AfricansArise Well I wont make any further attempts to change your mind about the subject. I'll just point out that slavery has existed WAY longer than capitalism, and that even after slavery, capitalism is the only mechanism that protects ALL people from social architechs. See even when black people "ruled the world" ALL black people didnt rule... Just the one black man who was the king or controlled the military. He had the power to take from his subjects. The kng was god.
Just because the person in charge is black, doesnt mean you are not his slave/subject. But with capitalism, the man with the best idea, and who provides the most good for society can become the richest. Also, poverty that exists in undeveloped countries is not due to capitalism, but more likely to a monarchy like say, the king of england imposing slavery on those people. The easiest solution for these people is to allow them to do for themselves, not to impose "charity" on them.
@playaplayag7 OMG what a load of rubbish. Just because capitalism exist in your country doesn't mean you are not a slave/subject! And who provides the most good for society??? You mean who makes the most profit can become the richest. People have been living for centuries in Africa and now they are starving because of capitalism. Please don't impose 'capitalism' on them and don't impose 'vaccination' on them.
@Sood81 U win fella. Clearly whatever thought u have is the best hope for the black race lol. Anyway, my only point is that no other system actually pursues INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, and gain as its primary goal. Im glad folks like u do NOT rule the world and the day we get the men who think like u out of power in africa will probably be the rebirth of african greatness. Not because some duchbag plans it for EVERYBODY, but because each individual can pursue their OWN goal.
Can you HONESTLY name a system that exists, or that has EVER existed where an individual has had as much freedom to pursue their own goal as the system America has had in the last 150 years? This system is crumbling because every know-it-all college kid thinks they should be the designer of the world and bla bla bla. But thank God u guys are the subjects of a system were other members of society must ELECT u, because if u could take power by force, most people would die fighting u iggy's.
@playaplayag7 Don't tell me you are talking about the system where people are living on the streets and others are in debt and which goal are you talking about? If your own goal is getting world peace and no hunger for anyone then you find out your system doesn't work. Your society doesn't elect anyone, it's all make believe.
@Sood81 Living on the streets.... good example.... Take the people living on the streets in the united states and insert them in a 3rd world country.... now instead of LIVING on the streets for months or weeks, they DIE on the streets in a matter of day. Or take those same homeless people and insert them into the american population 100 years ago, the probably STILL DIE on the streets in a matter of days. The standard of poverty in america is still a cut above working class in most countries.
@playaplayag7 First you say as much freedom for 150 years, now you go back 100 years and they will die? And why are they still living? Because your system throws away food while others in the world are starving. You admit their is poverty in America, yet you claim everyone has the 'freedom' to pursue their own goal. I don't think their individual goal was to be living on the streets.
@Sood81 Freedom has NEVER ment guaranteed success. The freedom Im talking about is the freedoms God gave us the day we were born. That means the right to life, because God gave u life. U see if someone has to GIVE u something in order for u to aquire it, that thing is not a right. Homeless people do not have the RIGHT to a house. Hungry people dont have the RIGHT to food. The cavemen didnt have the RIGHT to survival. These things must always be earned. And failure has always been part of life.
@Sood81 When I see people starving, I imagine I say the same thing u say... "thats a damn shame". But when I look at the root cause, I dont say, Capitalism is starving these people. Once again capitalism is just a vehicle of exchange. I most likely say, that oppressive government is starving those people. Or the prevention of free trade is hindering those people. Or famine in that part of the world is affecting those people.
@playaplayag7 I feel I'm getting dumb by the minute just reading your comments. You really lack common sense and logic. You talk about god giving you freedom but not a right to food. I have to say that is the dumbest comment I have ever read on youtube.
@Sood81 lol you win again fella... Although you may be getting dumbER by the minute it doesnt change the DISTINCTION I am making. If God gave you a RIGHT to food, it would come directly from HEAVEN, or good would magically place it in your stomach. You dont have a right to someone elses labor. If the farmer plants a crop all year around, I dont have the right to take it from him.... even if Im REALLY REALLY hungry!
@Sood81 But lets say you DID have the right to someone elses labor. Who would be stupid enough to plant their OWN garden when all they would ahve to do is wait for some farmer to put in the work, and TAKE eat his crop. If everyone has the right to something someone else does, MOST people will just take instead of produce. And they would be smart to do so, because its much more efficient to steal in 1 minute what would take 8 to 10 weeks to plant, water, and grow. Just think about it fella.
@playaplayag7 It's called sharing. If you grow something and I grow something you can have some of what I have and I can get some of what you have. You don't need any money. And you forget you do the labor (if you work) and someone else takes part of what you earned, it's called taxes:/
@Sood81 You have alot of growing up to do. I'll let you research way civilizations for the past 6000 years thought a monetary system was necessary for trade. As for taxes, the government earns taxes the same way you earn a living. The government provides the protection(police force, military, fire department, road system) and other infrastructure that ALLOWS us to earn our money. It is also supposed to protect us from foreign invaders. Taxes are NOT a GIFT to the government.
@playaplayag7 lol just so you know I don't like people calling me fella and ROFL a lot of growing up to do...you are the one that can't think for yourself and only talk propaganda BS. I'm sorry foreign invaders? Governments protect themselves with your taxes, they will let you die if they can benefit.
@Sood81 You can change the arguement 1000 times and all you will do is reveal how little you know about WHY things exist as they do. This is the LAST message that I will post to address your ignorance. Go ahead and have the last word, but remember... The silent majority of people think your ideas are bad. They considered all the same B.S. you are promoting, but they realized the FLAWS in those ideas and are making their own lives better WITHOUT begging for a handout or for socialism.
@playaplayag7 I wasn't commenting because I want the last word or want to win:/ And please tell me what I was promoting, which ideas are you talking about. Just because I said somethings against capitalism and show you your comments don't make sense doesn't mean I am 'promoting' other systems. Freedom should also be letting people try out other systems instead of only promoting capitalism and saying it is the only way to gain the most freedom.
@Sood81 The world didnt just become the way it is over night. And it wants some spooky mystical conspiracy. People were looking for the most efficient means of survival. Initially that means was immoral (slavery, murder, stealing), but through science, innovation, inventions and general progress, everyone CAN benefit. But poor people have their reasons for being poor. Maybe they were handycapped by an accident, is that our fault? Or maybe they are lazy... again, not OUR fault.
@playaplayag7 What have those things done for us? We have more diseases now than ever and we have people starving. Keep on talking rubbish, when poverity hits you or your children you can tell yourself it's your fault.
@Sood81 I can see that you simply have it in for capitalism. You think that capitalism CAUSES these diseases to exist.... That tells me you are not logical enough to reach. Well hate it or love it, capitalism has lead to the fastest advancement of the human race in the history of our existence on this planet. And the freedom that Free Market Capitalism requires to function has lead to a better lifestyle for even the poorest American when compared to the poor in other nations. But ur right :-/
@Sood81 and that standard remains high not because we are better or even smarter.... Its because we have a system in place where the most essential things for survival are also cheap to purchase. A bum can eat for just quarters a day in this country. Give a man in a 3rd world country DOLLARS a day, and theres still a possibility that he will starve because there may be no food vender to accept his money in exchange for food...
@Sood81 If a person sets a goal for world peace or to end world hunger they are probably being unreasonable. If u want peace, then surrender your belongings to the criminal who intends to steal them from you. Or adopt sharia law. Im pretty sure that if I give my enemy whatever he wants, he will not longer be my enemy, he will become my master..... Im not with that, EVER. If a man is hungry let him work to get his food. Every other animal on this planet does SOME work to eat, and so should we.
To completely heal our souls from the virus of White Supremacy, we must delete Capitalism, Western Consumerism, Christianity and Islam from our minds. All of which were malicious premeditated and used in our ongoing demise. We can live in the world without European capitalism. Its they who are afflicted with the insatiable need for the property of everyone else. They created it, let them keep it. But, we must know it as the most destructive virus for black Africans, throughout the world.
@AfricansArise If you mean the economic system which allows the voluntary exchange of goods and services between two or more individuals or businesses, then Capitalism is the key.
@shotsky94 No, I mean the economic system where a tiny minority of people get super-rich at the expense of the majority of people who actually do all the work. This is text-book sponging.
I hate to say it, but your thinking on this matter is a bit skewed, and I think that your focus--as is usually the case--is on "social system," instead of where it belongs, which is on white supremacy and racism.
africansarise thanks this was very informative. The problem that i continue to grapple with is the unwillingness of many of us africans to want to change our situation, im beginning to wonder if that is even possible, given what we are now up against.
@phoenixchi28 Thanks fam - I know how you feel. I guess we need to remind ourselves that in many places, people are making very significant changes in re-balancing their societies to a more people-friendly system. But it can be hard to get information about this, especially in the media. But for example, while it's far from perfect - Venezuela has taken some massive steps in the last decade and a half. And there are plenty of Africans there. Another example would be Brazil.
Brother I rate this video a lot from the hood in West London, I'm spreading this video to all the hood rats in the ends. From the youth where I am we need to get the message spread...
like george carlin(rip) said they have a war on drugs but you'll never really have a war on poverty because there's no money in that real talk there's nothing for them to gain from ending poverty
We need sacrifice, we need tonprogram our youth we our truth, our story, we need dedication, we need real men and women to stand up- then we will create a system that will benefit us and not be influenced and controlled by others!
There are a few points I need to make. your vid is great, but it makes no mention of Arabs in the slave trade. I agree that capitalism has wreaked havoc on Afrikans throughout the world. That being said, most Afrikans won't abandon capitalism, ownership of material posssessions no matter how horribly we fair under that system. We need to have a system to replace capitalism and the means to protect that system.
@blakkbandit22 Thanks man. And yes, I didn't mention the Arabs as the scope of the video was deliberately quite narrow. But I'd like to probably do a video on the whole issue of how we relate to Arabs.
@AfricansArise I appreciate your analysis and it is very good, but I think the problem is greater than capitalism... the problem is white supremacy... capitalism is merely a tool of white supremacy, so is communism... we need a system that transcends these white supremacist ideologies of control...but that is just my opinion according to the evidence I have seen.. What do you think...?
Capitalism causes people to be poor. What corruption there is in politics is entirely caused by the capitalists as they work to control the system with money. No, the problem is capitalism. It is the most exploitative system in world history and ultimately must be abolished just as was slavery and feudalism.
@BklynKen Thanks fam. Good to give the historical references (slavery and feudalism) It's kinda shocking how alot of people think Capitalism is somekind of benign, natural system which is all about simple buying and selling. We need some serious education!
Brother, Capitalists spend alot of money to bamboozle the masses. But history tell us the truth. Humans have been around for about 2 million years. For majority of that time, nobody owned any of the land and we survived by forming societies to promote the well-being of all. Capitalism has only been around for a few hundred years and it has threatening the very survival of the planet as well as impoverishing more than 80% of the world's population.
U wrote "Communism falsely espouses the notion that everyone is the same." False. Communist advocate that all should be free from necessity & live harmoniously.There is nothing wrong with non antagonistic 'differences' among people.This is not about 'communism' tho.U just want to be a 'black face' saviour of the Queen of England & her capitalist system.
@yorubablk3 First of all, I do not support the British regime, nor do I seek to be a saviour of Queen Elizabitch. Secondly, I just simply acknowledge the beneficial factors of Capitalism and the vast amount of economic opportunities it offers. Capitalism is much more efficient than Communism because it utilizes competition to drive down prices. Lastly, I suggest that you stop being a puppet on strings for your Marxist masters.
@The501c3 First of all,u do indeed support the British regime, & u do seek to be a saviour of Queen Elizabitch. EVERYthing u post here is an affirmation of the 'British system' of which your queen is a part-Capitalism.
@The501c3 Secondly, u just simply acknowledge,n YOUR veiw, the 'beneficial factors' of white power Capitalism and the vast amount of 'economic opportunities' it offers the white collective over non white people.Yes,u obviously just LOVE whte power economics over non white powerlessness.
@The501c3 As YOU post White power economics ,ie capitalism is MORE efficient than 'Communism ' (but of course) because it utilizes competition to drive down prices.Ah yes,the Black & non white worlds problem is 'high prices' & lack of competition NOT neo colonialism,racism white supremacy & an unjust parasitical capitalist system of international white power economics!
@The501c3 U r indeed a strange creature..but then a purported 'African' lover of Queen Elizabeth's white power capitalism by definition should b. And so u r.
@The501c3 U wrote :"Lastly, I suggest that you stop being a puppet on strings for your Marxist masters." Hmmm'Marxist Masters'?..where have i heard THAT terminology b4?...ah yes,Mussalini,Hitler,the KKK,The Boer leadership,the British ,French,Italian,Spanish,Hungarian,Romanian,Turkish,Royal Families & their capitalist propagandist ,corporate heads & hanger ons,the white colonial leaders in Africa & Asia & their native neocolonial puppets....ALL enemies of Africa & African people!
@yorubablk3 I think your childish obsession with Socialism is purely based on romanticism. You're probably infactuated with the idea of overthrowing the US gov. in the same manner your Bolshevik heroes toppled the Tsarist autocracy in Russia in 1917. Those those events might sound exhilarating, but you must realize that we live in a modern society that is dominated by free-enterprise. Capitalism isn't going anywhere, adopt it or be crushed by it.
@The501c3 I think your obsession with white power economics-capitalism- is purely based on a subliminal love for Queen Elizabeth & any other white female that u may b involved with as a queen elizabeth substitute.
@The501c3 You're probably infatuated with the idea of that White power is here to stay,& is immutable & indestructible...& so much better than ANY thing a 'darkie' might postulate in his non white delusional mind 2 replace it. ...
@The501c3 Well,my dear,that might sound exhilarating to a white power economics lover like U, but u must realize that we live in a modern society where white numbers are decreasing,non white numbers are expanding & capitalist-white economical power- will not & cannot bring equity,justice or empowerment to the world majority.
@yorubablk3 How dare you accuse me of treason. I'm a Pan-African/Black nationalist, therefore, I do not believe in having sexual relations with European women(they're filthy, homosexual beast). Their population is declining drastically and they're severely below replacement levels, however, Capitalism will prevail as the world's dominant economic system. Moreover, this gives Africa the chance to re-emerge on the scene as a strong powerhouse. We need another Nubian/Mali/Ghana/Songhai empire.
@The501c3:I don't need to accuse u of anything,dear!Your own post r sufficent.U wrote on my page that Africa needed 2 keep its Berlin conference imposed Borders drawn up 2 specifically decimate the natural pre colonial flow of African life,tie neo colonial elites & the local economies to white European 'mother' nations & thus bind Africans 2 a self defeating ethos that we suffer from 2 this day.
@The501c3 Than u post that white power economics " will prevail as the world's dominant economic system." even after the natural decline of the white collective world wide through some crazy individuals owners that will want to carry on a global system of 'legal'(at the point of a gun!)theft,fraud,usury & enforced deprivation on one hand & inequitable gross accumulation on the other...and u say i 'accuse' u of treason?? look n your mirror 4 your accuser!!
@The501c3 And finally u top off your soliloquy of love 2 the white power economics system of your sweet heart Queen Elizabeth with the absurd postulation"I'm a Pan-African/Black nationalist"!A ' Pan-African-Black neo colonialist white power economical apologist,is more accurate.btw..are you a Christian?
@yorubablk3 Furthermore, Self proclaimed Socialists such as yourself hinder Africa's economic development because you openly support Chinese Expansionism into the African continent.
@The501c3 I support the resources of the African continent b n African hands,the African continent united into one SOCIALIST state lead by the party of the African working class & rural farmers,based on the theories of Garvey,Toure,Nkrumah,Lumumba & others.
@The501c3 .An all-African party that will guide true conscious Pan-African/Black nationalist petty bourgeois as a class as well as African capitalist individuals to put their talents 2 work for the people as they build a harmonious african socialist system.Thats what i support.
@yorubablk3 Yes, the western industrialized world is crumbling into decay, but every other group is economically empowering themselves by utilizing capitalism to their advantage. African people can no longer afford to idly stand by and complain about social injustices, while everyone else is building their empires. Socialism is not a reliable system due to its inefficiencies in central planning. A collectivized economy does not have a supply & demand system to determine consumer demand.
@The501c3 & i've posted repeatedly that there is NOTHING wrong with revelutionary socialist using aspects of capitalism 2 build socialism.Lenin did it n the USSR,Deng has done it n China & any sensible serious socialist revelutionary is open 2 anything that brings the success of socialism.Capitalist use an array of things 2 build & maintain capitalism,true socialist du the same 2 build socialism.
@The501c3 Capitalism as a dominant global system was born as white power economics & is maintained by the global white collective as such .Thus it is not a reliable system due to its inefficiencies in providing the best for the most if massive 'profits' r not involved. A white privately owned socially produced global economy(capitalism) does not have a supply & demand system to deliver a system that will abolish planetary poverty much less end white supremacy.
@yorubablk3 They used Capitalist policies as a response to uplifit their country's economy from stagnation and despair, something central planning was unsuccessful in doing. Privatization is what led to PRC & Russia's economic growth. There is nothing wrong with being motivated by profit as long as there are regulations to curve massive expoitation such as child labor laws and federal mandated wages. Greed is a normal human behavior that provides incentives for people to improve themselves.
@The501c3U wrote" (Lenin & Deng) used Capitalist policies as a response to uplifit their country's economy from stagnation and despair"No,in the case of both They used internal market policies to kick start rapid accumulation of profit because as wise stewards of newly socialized economies in a world based on predatory capitalist imperialist individuals with vast armies of virtual slaves,they needed the wealth as a base 2 protect & secure socialism in there respective sectors.
@yorubablk3 "predatory capitalist imperialist individuals with vast armies of virtual slaves."
The Soviets were not exactly advocates of peace and freedom as you so foolishly believe. After the Second World war, they forcefully imposed Communist regimes in much of Eastern Europe, and forced the bloc countries to sign the Warsaw pact. Also, the Red Army was notorious for raping women. Communists are not imperialists? What about the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
@The501c3 U wrote"The Soviets were not exactly advocates of peace and freedom as you so foolishly believe. After the Second World war, they forcefully imposed Communist regimes in much of Eastern Europe, and forced the bloc countries to sign the Warsaw pact. Also, the Red Army was notorious for raping women"
@The501c3 Ok this is were u truly stand stark naked of your phony 'Pan Afrikan/Black nationalist' online ' fig leaf'.U wanna talk USSR? Lets . During WW2 the USSR smashed Facist Italy (that had invaded Ethiopia) & Itialian Communist shot & hung a dead Mussalini from a gas station,upside down.U got a problem with that Mr Pan Africanist?
@yorubablk3 The Soviets barely defeated their European counterparts. In the initial battles of the war they suffered massive casualties as a result of being poorly trained, and ill-equipped. Prior to the war, Stalin killed most of the experienced generals, which contributed to the lack of coherent leadership within the Red Army. Additionally, they would've lost if it weren't for the cold winter climate and the subsequent decisive battles at Stalingrad & Kursk.
@The501c3 Yes & gave many millions lives defending the revelutionary Socialist USSR & thus defeating the new capitalist white power imperial aggression& re-division of the global capitalist 'pot' in the form Of Nazi Germany & its coalition of the willing during 'WW2 .
@The501c3 The USSR also proved 2 b an indespensable allie of all oppressed people when it help make the international enviourment in which ALL the rest of global white supremacy goverments had 2 hide,disguise or reform & eventually discarde the most obvious & immediately odious white racist features & practices of their governments & businesses & chastise the ones that didn't,ala aparthied South Africa & the Zionism IS racism movement againts Israel.
@yorubablk3 Why did the USSR unjustifiably invade Finland after Stalin(your hero) signed a treaty with Hitler. You claim the Soviet Union was fighting for justice, but at the same time they allied themselves with the Nazis, when it was convenient for their imperialist agenda.
@The501c3 The revelutionary socialist USSR did many things in the context of confronting the global capitalist imperial white power system of the British empire,its anglo off spring the USA ,Nazi Germany, the French,Italian & other reactionary white empires & pro-CAPITALIST goverments. Its first duty was to protect socialism on its home soil & it was very correct to do so.
@The501c3 Yes,not having a system built on the backs of enslaved Black servants or their descendants,not having a Christian church or Mosque to teach fantasy while exploiting Africans,not suppoerting global systems that did so & waging do or die WARS ,cold or hot,againts white power colonialist capitalist & capitalist corporatist (aka Fascist) definitely puts Stalin in the 'Hero' & 'allie' column to me.
@The501c3 MANY anti imperialist,anti colonialist & anti white supremist forces from all over the world received much material support from the USSR n its 70 year existence,including Africans on the continent & diaspora.Got a problem with that Mr "Black nationalist- not' ?
@The501c3 Tho far from perfect,the USSR contribution 2 the worlds non white progressive forces was immense & in historical terms indispensable.And like China of today,the former USSR shows all African people that we can resist white power Imperialism & capitalism & when necessary,defeat & end it for something FAR better:SOCIALISM
@yorubablk3 I wish you would seriously stop equating Socialism with Black nationalism. I'm only concerned with the affairs of my people and not of other races. Whereas you are promoting internationalism with other people who seek to do us harm.
@The501c3 TheMeso-Persian, Greek,Roman,Arab,Portuguese,Spanish,Italian,French,Dutch,German & British imperial & capitalist powers that brought slavery,mind control in the form of Christianity & Islam,aggressive wars of Black ethnocide,colonial & neo colonial division & subjugation of white power economics of CAPITALISM is the "internationalism with other people" that sought, seeks & DID "do us harm".And ALL of which i as a pro socialist & anti imperialist African oppose.
@The501c3 I wish you would seriously stop equating capitalism with Black nationalism. I'm only concerned with the affairs of my people and not of other races. Whereas you are promoting capitalist internationalism with other people who actualy do & have a history of doing harm 2 africans,ie,the USA,British,french,Spanish,portoguese,Arab,Italian,Greek capatalist,all from countries that have had or have colonies or neo colonies in Africa.
@The501c3 And in doing so they both set a sterling & stellar example as Communist human beings & mighty contributors to the cause of freedom 4 humanity by showing,once & forever that there was a humane & correct way for industrialization & development & that capitalist accumulation did not require the global genocide,slave trade & race war that the euros inaugurated as they developed the world capitalist system.
@yorubablk3 African nations should not be united under the veil of Socialism, but through economic cohesion. The precious resources of Africa cannot be properly maintained or distributed by a colossal state controlled by bureaucrats.
@The501c3 "Then u wrote" The precious resources of Africa cannot be properly maintained or distributed by a colossal state controlled by bureaucrats."I beg your pardon?If a 'colossal' socialist African state were in existance my concerns about white power economic control & domination of Africa & African people & your love of British economics(capitalism) disguised as 'pan African' concern over something U call ''Chinese colonialism' would b moot points as neither concern would exist.
@The501c3 And it is the duty of the TRUE sons & daughters of Africa to expel ALL invaders,put african resources in collective socialized hands to serve the needs of the African people collectivly & world wide
@The501c3 ... and build & maintain just such an all African socialist state apparatus so that the tragic ongoing African Ma'afa of the last 2,000 years at the hands of Euro's,Arabs & capitalist en-slavers & exploiters of African people is stopped,reversed and made an eternal impossibility 2 ever repeat.
@yorubablk3 "Communist human beings & mighty contributors to the cause of freedom 4 humanity by showing,once & forever that there was a humane & correct way for industrialization."
The Great Leap Forward was a disastrous attempt at modernising China's infrastructure. Millions of people starved to death in the process, and some were even tortured and executed for not meting certain quotas. Also, the structures built during this period were poorly constructed.
@The501c3 U wrote of China's industrialization under the communist party:"The Great Leap Forward was a disastrous attempt at modernising China's infrastructure. Millions of people starved to death in the process, and some were even tortured and executed for not meting certain quotas. Also, the structures built during this period were poorly constructed"
@The501c3 N the context of white peoples path 2 industrialzation(capitalism) hijacking & genicidal 'conquest' of the western hemisphere,est;100,000,000 lost,the trans atlantic slave trade,est 300,000,000 lost....
@The501c3 ..the colonialization of Africa & Sout Asia & the islands of the Pacific & the incessent wars that accompinied there drive 2 industrialize & refine the capitalist global system of organized crime ,white power ,theft & greed?YES INDEED 'Communist are contributors 2 the cause of freedom 4 humanity by showing,once & forever that there was(& IS) a humane & correct way for industrialization."
@The501c3 And just what kind of "Pan Afrikanist/Black nationalist" are u posing as??You think that the 700 years of global white power race war,colonization that gave birth 2 capitalism as a global system,African enslavement & the capitalist Diaspora disbursement,the dropping of Nukes on babies ,women ,men & children in a capitalist 'world' war r 'good things' for Afrikan people??U,sir,stand naked & exposed as a US Johnnie Carson type proponant of white power economics & imperialism n Africa.
@yorubablk3 "No,in the case of both They used internal market policies to kick start rapid accumulation of profit."
Again, those "internal market policies" were heavily infleunced by Capitalist principles. Deng reformed China's economy by permitting privatization and foreign capital investment, which is the contributing factor to much of PRC's success.
@yorubablk3 In a Socialist society, the state centrally plans the economy. As a result, the economy is usually stagnant and there is no incentive to advance or produce anything innovative. In addition, the state has a very difficult time deciding what goods to produce since it does not rely on consumer demand.
At the begining of the video you said "Capitalism must go in order to Africans to be free" . Do you think that our people should empower themselves economically and then build our own Capitalist system?
@KushWarriorReturns Capitalism is built on explitation of the many by the few. It is an unjust system and which doesn't serve the needs of people. We can make certain progress within this system, but we should be working toward building a better system that is suited to the needs of the majority.
"we should be working toward building a better system that is suited to the needs of the majority". No we should build a system that brings advantages for us only. You see...thats the problem with African people always thinking about the well-being of all the other races when all the other races hates them and secondly they are all in a better condition than our so why do we need to think about their god damn needs.
@KushWarriorReturns Let me clarify- You asked should we build our own Capitalism. We should not build our own Capitalism because this would involve a few Africans exploiting the majority of Africans. If Shell Oil was 100% African-owned and still did the same things they do now, it would still be an enemy of our people. We need to remember that being African doesn't automatically mean being good. OnyxIsis made this point very well in her video.
@AfricansArise "We need to remember that being African doesn't automatically mean being good".
You are not making me learn any new thing with that wrote that! I already know that we have Uncle Toms, race traitors and cracker lovers among us who love to betray their own people just to be accepted by their oppressor.
Many 'blacks' like Materialism and Capilism as a way of snobbing other black people. Thus, 1 black climbing the Just Over Broke (JOB) Ladder and proud to be the only black their. Many refuse to allow other blacks to gain positions. In my opinion fuck the whole hierachy, blacks should start their own business.
Anyway, capitalism is very biblical and oppressive system method of control.
all truth here. African can not use euro money or standards to live our lives by. it has destroyed our ability to use our own mechanisms to survive and thrive, bless up your voice...Africa Lives!
europeans tried first as "INDIGENOUS??" the black indian and the red indian who are apart of the 12 tribes of israel were tried first along side the black spanish moors...aztec, mayans, indians(12 tribe)...before the diaspora when one large land mass south america fit at the bottom of africa and the north allong the west side
as one comment already stated we lived in agreement for over thousands of years..and evil thought of capitalism(indigenous black exploitation) is only -400 years
@smoothbrother69 China is an example of the success of socialism,not capitalism.India has millions of people who are marginalized & desperately & savagely poor & dispossessed under capitalism & has a huge Maoist insurrection in some ares as a result.Japan & South Korea are US military penis extenders aimed at the communist Masses of Asia & Chile & Botswana are both specialized out post of white supremacy aimed at revelutionary indigenous populations in Bolivia & Zimbabwe respectively.
@yorubablk3 No China is not a socialist country. Their is no national health program and all of the large corporation and industry in china are run by private enterprises. China is the most capitalistic country on the planet. you give the US and white more credit then they deserve all these country are independent nation who have used capitalism to better the lives of their people. For socialism does not work because it can not create wealth it only redistributes it.
@smoothbrother69 Ok..here it goes in 1 full swoop.Yes china IS a 'socialist' country.NO the UK is not a socialist country.USA President Obama is NOT a 'socialist'.Neither was A.Hitler,he was a German fascist.
@yorubablk3 I dont know how Obama and Hitler entered this conversation. But Capitalism is the only system that works in today world. every other system creates poverty and great inequality. While capitalism creates large middle class that stabilize and sustain long term growth. With that growth you can begin to address the needs of the poor and downtrodden in a country. Stop hating white people they have given us a lot of good with the bad. Capitalism is one of them.
@smoothbrother69 The " poverty and great inequality" in the world are a fundamental product of the global white power economic system of capitalism.Without either it couldn't exist.
@yorubablk3 Are u kidding me. Before capitalism people were either poor or rich. Agrarian societies were full of poor people not middle class which was extremely small. you cant artifically create middle class. Middle class comes from the growth of private industry which is what most people work for not government manipulation. You cant have capitalism without a creation of middle class because of the way market forces create business and jobs.
@smoothbrother69 Capitalism historically & uniquely crates an alienated 'working class',ie,a proletariat.The middle class,as opposed to the petty & grand bourgeois under capitalism was produced out of the 'working class' by two major processes: #1.Socialist & social democratic political & economic pressure on capitalist in capitalist countries & #2 the threat from radical regimes that challenge capitalist hegemony thus pressuring the capitalist to prop up a 'middle class' for 'social peace'
@yorubablk3 you placing too much control in the hands of the west which can only control their own actions and not enough emphasis on the failure of Africans to invest and create the type of communities that will grow wealth and properity. What Africa suffer from in not western colonialism but instead a failure to adapt to the changing world around them. In a lot of the disporia you can see some of that mentality as well. A lot of the emphasis on making whites do something is stupid it is about.
@smoothbrother69 U wrote:" you placing too much control in the hands of the west which can only control their own actions and not enough emphasis on the failure of Africans to invest and create the type of communities that will grow wealth and properity." You need to goggle "Wiki leaks Africa" After doing that get back to me.Then we'll have a common ground work 2 address the reality of what is ,& not your subjectivity.
@yorubablk3 what we as a people will do to get ahead in the society. People who become successful in capitalist society all have one thing in common and that is drive, a willingness to learn, and good sense of self responsiblity. These are the things that are people are not getting b/c of false doctrine of the all-mighty white god who will keep you down and enslave no matter what you do. Remeber the biggest lie whites told to blacks was that they were all powerful so we should be scared of them.
@smoothbrother69 U wrote:"what we as a people will do to get ahead in the society" Translation?:"Get in where u fit in".NOPE.Black people need to be in the center of revolutionizing the entire species,by A.Taking back our minds,lives & resources & .B.Thus reordering the world like the greco Romans did 2 thousand years ago.What was humanly possible then is humanly doable now.And for Black survival necessary,as capitalism is not a long term sustainable system.
@smoothbrother69 U wrote "While capitalism creates large middle class that stabilize and sustain long term growth. With that growth you can begin to address the needs of the poor and downtrodden in a country." The 'middle class' in today's world was created by 2 things in reaction to & in spite of,not because of,capitalism
@yorubablk3 when government gets into bed with big business it is not a true free market systems. because government is the one who is decieding who get wealth and not the people themselves. Which is what you see in most third world countries. Secondly I think you focus to much on the white man. I am very afrocentric in the sense that I look at the world through a Africans eyes. Afrocentrism is not about hating whites which is stupid it is about loving yourself which obviously you dont.
@smoothbrother69 What we see in most 3rd world countries is the capitalism of the colonial & postcolonial euro-US global imperial periphery.As far as my focus?I identify facts. As for 'hating'?I hate injustice & imbalance & anything that diminishes or negativly impacts the ongoing collective presence of 'Black' & African people on Earth.If u have a problem with that,tell someone who cares.I don't.
@yorubablk3 But that is not what is going on. You cant have it both ways if countries like Japan have accepted the west and are doing well then how is it that 3rd world countries have also accepted the west and are doing bad. First of all capitalist do not like poor people. poverty stops the wealthy from getting more wealthy. I hate injustice just the way you do but we obviouly do not see the same things.
@smoothbrother69 "if countries like Japan have accepted the west and are doing well then how is it that 3rd world countries have also accepted the west and are doing bad. First of all capitalist do not like poor people. poverty stops the wealthy from getting more wealthy".#1.Japan.
@yorubablk3 culture plays a big part in it. If you look these 3rd world countries, they have been colonized by euro countries, were culture has been perverted and christianity has been introduced. Japan is a secular country, which means they do capitalism on their own terms. Also, I think Japan's culture is not as communal as countries like Africa, pacific islands, and other places. This is just my opinion.
@smoothbrother69 Japan pre 1945 was an equal power to western European imperial capitalist powers that were only what they were because they had brutaly occupied an entire hemisphere & enslaved millions from another continent & thus controlled both,and was ahead of the other white,non imperialist ones.As a regional hegemon on the rise it threatened white global control.Thus it had to be 'brought to heel'..and it was by the slaughter of their civilian men ,women & babies with Atom bombs.
@smoothbrother69 Japan has since 'fit in where it was put in' & despite a facade of 'success' ultimate control of Japan is in the hands of rich white capitalist.they same ones that japan,with all its 'smarts' NEVER contradicts,disobeys or challenges..because they can't.Thats no 'modal' for 'Black succes'...thats what we have as Black people now...A few emasculated 'non whites' reflecting the benefits of being controlled by somebody else.
@smoothbrother69 #2." First of all capitalist do not like poor people. poverty stops the wealthy from getting more wealthy." As that statement clearly contradicts what is clearly & casually observable over the last 300 years,with the 'rich getting richer & the poor,poorer' globally under capitalism,i'll just let reality refute that crazy assertion.
@smoothbrother69 #1.Socialist & social democratic political & economic pressure on capitalist in capitalist countries & #2 the threat from radical regimes that challenge capitalist hegemony thus pressuring the capitalist to prop up a 'middle class' for 'social peace'.History has shown through colonial aggression,feudal kingdoms,liberal democracies & fascist totalitarian states,capitalism can do quite well without or in oppisition 2 a 'middle class'.
@smoothbrother69 Finally u get past the coverscreen of capitalism vs communism n China,etc.& got to your REAL point when u wrote"Stop hating white people they have given us a lot of good with the bad. Capitalism is one of them." Well at lest U r not camouflaging your worship of white aggression & insulting 1's intelligence by saying u r a ' Pan African /Black Nationalist.'lol
@yorubablk3 Well, at least you're honest about your unwavering devotion to the recolonization of the African continent by Chinese imperialists, lol. You have demonstrated that you are a lackey for your Socialist master Hu Jin Tao and the rest of his Chinese cohorts. It was the christianized and islamized negroes, who supported the oppressors in usurping and destroying ancient African kingdoms. Now, it seems negroes are masquerading behind Socialism to aid Africa's enemies.
@The501c3 I deal in fact not fantasy.As soon as u show facualy a Chinese communist colony (never mind the fact that China has been trading with African polities for 3,000 years with NO colonization) in Africa,i'll consider it.
@The501c3 and as for "Africa's enemies" those have historically been inner disunion between some Africans who saw themselves as individuals as opposed to being part of an African whole) & the European & west Asiatic peoples using false religious mythologies based on corrupted African certainties as psych war tools to unhinge African peoples from their humanity & sovereignty.Capitalism as a global system derieved from this war againts Africans.Capitalism IS 'the enemy of Africa'.Cure? Socialism
@The501c3 The only 'masquerade' is u pretending to be a Pan African/Black nationalist. U r a pro White economic,white world confirming believer in eternal black & African 'inferiority' by the jist of your own post here.
@smoothbrother69 Now.. having got that out of the way...China is a socialist country ran,not by 'private enterprise' but by the Communist Party of China.
@yorubablk3 I dont you get it. China is a communist country in the sense that it is controlled by one ruling political party. But when it comes to economics it is completely capitalistic. Like I said the major industry of china are controlled by individual private companies and are not government run. That is the based of their growth over the past years. before china was not a free market the way it is now. Like I said before no social safety nets in china because it is fully capitalistic.
@smoothbrother69 U wrote " dont you get it. China is a communist country in the sense that it is controlled by one ruling political party. But when it comes to economics it is completely capitalistic." WRONG.'when it comes to economics,it is a socialist 'mixed' economy that combines state controlled enterprises,market forces & independent businesses along with pointed foreign investment in a thought out pre planned context created & overseen & implemented by Chinese communist.
@smoothbrother69 U wrote " I dont you get it" TRUE,u don't.. "China is a communist country in the sense that it is controlled by one ruling political party" No China is a 'communist' country because it is ruled ,organized & maintained by Chinese communist.The number of political parties it has nothing to do with it.its what the party that actualy rules & explains how & why it does that which it does that determines what it is.
@smoothbrother69 China is currently using aspects of market relations to 'create wealth' to redistribute,thus strengthening socialism.Its almost like the USA in reverse that used socialist programs & methods 1932-1980 to buttress capitalism.
@yorubablk3 you are confusing capitalism with demorcracy b/c you have been brainwashed by the west to believe that they are both the same thing. Secondly India is a fast growing economy that has increased it middle class from what it was previously. Just because countries do not go out and rail against the west does not mean they are somehow extensions of the west. China and the US are similiar in the way they grew in the sense that stabilty was establish then the free market was allowed to work
@smoothbrother69 U wrote"China and the US are similiar in the way they grew in the sense that stabilty was establish then the free market was allowed to work"WRONG.
@smoothbrother69 .The USA is a white settler collection of concocted entities they called 'states' that used usurped indigenous land,enslaved Africans & overseas colonies to augment a free market capitalist economy from the gate.China,however,is an ancient natural country,that had a socialist revelution that rearranged property relations under a revelutionary communist party,that made several innovative & creative changes to produce their own style of socialism.
@smoothbrother69 Its almost like the USA in reverse that used socialist programs & methods 1932-1980 to buttress capitalism.Neither country ownership of the means of production changed making them the opposite of what they truthfully state that they are.
@yorubablk3 Actually, Hitler was a Socialist or National Socialist, which is a form of Socialism that lacks the key concept of uniting every race/ethnic group under a classeless society. Your socioeconomic/political ideals are more aligned with those of Hitler, as he strongly believed in nationalizing major privatized businesses. He also claimed to be an avid contender against the "tyranny" of Capitalism. Marxists and National Socialists both share the same beliefs in tolitarian contol.
Holy crap! Is that REALLY what you think capitalism is? So it has nothing to do with each individual deciding what they want and pursuing it? Every other alternative to capitalism involves someone else deciding FOR the individual. Noone's keeping people from growning their own food or starting their own business. Capitalism is the reason that a black person in the US is better off than a white person nearly every other part of the world. We have freedom that they dont.
playaplayag7 4 months ago
@playaplayag7 No, Capitalism depends on PREVENTING billions of individuals from being able to decide what they want and pursuing it. As I alluded to in the video, Capitalism was built on slavery, mass theft of land, genocides and relentless warring. The standard of living in the US which you are so (ludicrously) proud of is only mad epossible BECAUSE billions of people around the world are forced to live in poverty by the global Capitalism system...
AfricansArise 4 months ago
@AfricansArise Lol.. Huge straw men you're creating. Capitalism was built on maximizing economic efficiency. Please take an econ class and please dont do the whole "corporations, corporations, evil corporations" routine on me. And you're last sentence is just pure nonsense. The standard of living in the USA has been rising since the 1800s, when the US was very isolationist. Take a trip to Cuba and enjoy your socialist utopia
shotsky94 4 months ago
@shotsky94 Europe and the US depended on slavery first and then colonialism to enalbe them to build Capitalism. This is just simple historical fact. And no, the standard of living in the US has been consistently falling over the past 30 years - for the majority of people. But for those at the top, yes, I'm sure it's been rising for centuries now.
AfricansArise 4 months ago
@AfricansArise Wrong again. Standard of living has NOT been falling for the average americans. Real wages may have stagnated for a period of time due to poor management of monetary policy by the Fed. But standard of living has not been consistently falling. This is nothing more than a bullshit lie. Under just about every reliable metric available, living standards have not been falling. GDP per Capita, GDP, Nominal Wages, Real Wages, etc...
shotsky94 4 months ago
@AfricansArise Slavery in the US was only practiced in the south and was a very inefficient system. Economic growth was much higher in the North. So, to build our argument that the system of capitalism was built on slavery is fallacious. It is akin to saying that communism was built on mass murder, destruction of private property, forced labour, etc. It is a fallacious statement. Communism was built on the ideas of collectivism and protection of labour from exploitation.
shotsky94 4 months ago
@playaplayag7 And having said that, the fact that the standard of living that Africans in the US "enjoy" may be better than what Africans experience in, say, Nigeria is DESPITE Capitalism, not because of it. Africans and others have had to fight tooth and nail for centuries to get some crumbs from the table of the Capitalists. And what we are seeing now is the Capitalists looking to put Africans (and working people in general) bakc where they think they belong...
AfricansArise 4 months ago
@AfricansArise Well I wont make any further attempts to change your mind about the subject. I'll just point out that slavery has existed WAY longer than capitalism, and that even after slavery, capitalism is the only mechanism that protects ALL people from social architechs. See even when black people "ruled the world" ALL black people didnt rule... Just the one black man who was the king or controlled the military. He had the power to take from his subjects. The kng was god.
playaplayag7 4 months ago
Just because the person in charge is black, doesnt mean you are not his slave/subject. But with capitalism, the man with the best idea, and who provides the most good for society can become the richest. Also, poverty that exists in undeveloped countries is not due to capitalism, but more likely to a monarchy like say, the king of england imposing slavery on those people. The easiest solution for these people is to allow them to do for themselves, not to impose "charity" on them.
playaplayag7 4 months ago
@playaplayag7 OMG what a load of rubbish. Just because capitalism exist in your country doesn't mean you are not a slave/subject! And who provides the most good for society??? You mean who makes the most profit can become the richest. People have been living for centuries in Africa and now they are starving because of capitalism. Please don't impose 'capitalism' on them and don't impose 'vaccination' on them.
Sood81 3 months ago
@Sood81 U win fella. Clearly whatever thought u have is the best hope for the black race lol. Anyway, my only point is that no other system actually pursues INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY, and gain as its primary goal. Im glad folks like u do NOT rule the world and the day we get the men who think like u out of power in africa will probably be the rebirth of african greatness. Not because some duchbag plans it for EVERYBODY, but because each individual can pursue their OWN goal.
playaplayag7 3 months ago
Can you HONESTLY name a system that exists, or that has EVER existed where an individual has had as much freedom to pursue their own goal as the system America has had in the last 150 years? This system is crumbling because every know-it-all college kid thinks they should be the designer of the world and bla bla bla. But thank God u guys are the subjects of a system were other members of society must ELECT u, because if u could take power by force, most people would die fighting u iggy's.
playaplayag7 3 months ago
@playaplayag7 Don't tell me you are talking about the system where people are living on the streets and others are in debt and which goal are you talking about? If your own goal is getting world peace and no hunger for anyone then you find out your system doesn't work. Your society doesn't elect anyone, it's all make believe.
Sood81 3 months ago
@Sood81 Living on the streets.... good example.... Take the people living on the streets in the united states and insert them in a 3rd world country.... now instead of LIVING on the streets for months or weeks, they DIE on the streets in a matter of day. Or take those same homeless people and insert them into the american population 100 years ago, the probably STILL DIE on the streets in a matter of days. The standard of poverty in america is still a cut above working class in most countries.
playaplayag7 3 months ago
@playaplayag7 First you say as much freedom for 150 years, now you go back 100 years and they will die? And why are they still living? Because your system throws away food while others in the world are starving. You admit their is poverty in America, yet you claim everyone has the 'freedom' to pursue their own goal. I don't think their individual goal was to be living on the streets.
Sood81 3 months ago
@Sood81 Freedom has NEVER ment guaranteed success. The freedom Im talking about is the freedoms God gave us the day we were born. That means the right to life, because God gave u life. U see if someone has to GIVE u something in order for u to aquire it, that thing is not a right. Homeless people do not have the RIGHT to a house. Hungry people dont have the RIGHT to food. The cavemen didnt have the RIGHT to survival. These things must always be earned. And failure has always been part of life.
playaplayag7 3 months ago
@Sood81 When I see people starving, I imagine I say the same thing u say... "thats a damn shame". But when I look at the root cause, I dont say, Capitalism is starving these people. Once again capitalism is just a vehicle of exchange. I most likely say, that oppressive government is starving those people. Or the prevention of free trade is hindering those people. Or famine in that part of the world is affecting those people.
playaplayag7 3 months ago
@playaplayag7 I feel I'm getting dumb by the minute just reading your comments. You really lack common sense and logic. You talk about god giving you freedom but not a right to food. I have to say that is the dumbest comment I have ever read on youtube.
Sood81 3 months ago
@Sood81 lol you win again fella... Although you may be getting dumbER by the minute it doesnt change the DISTINCTION I am making. If God gave you a RIGHT to food, it would come directly from HEAVEN, or good would magically place it in your stomach. You dont have a right to someone elses labor. If the farmer plants a crop all year around, I dont have the right to take it from him.... even if Im REALLY REALLY hungry!
playaplayag7 3 months ago
@Sood81 But lets say you DID have the right to someone elses labor. Who would be stupid enough to plant their OWN garden when all they would ahve to do is wait for some farmer to put in the work, and TAKE eat his crop. If everyone has the right to something someone else does, MOST people will just take instead of produce. And they would be smart to do so, because its much more efficient to steal in 1 minute what would take 8 to 10 weeks to plant, water, and grow. Just think about it fella.
playaplayag7 3 months ago
@playaplayag7 It's called sharing. If you grow something and I grow something you can have some of what I have and I can get some of what you have. You don't need any money. And you forget you do the labor (if you work) and someone else takes part of what you earned, it's called taxes:/
Sood81 3 months ago
@Sood81 You have alot of growing up to do. I'll let you research way civilizations for the past 6000 years thought a monetary system was necessary for trade. As for taxes, the government earns taxes the same way you earn a living. The government provides the protection(police force, military, fire department, road system) and other infrastructure that ALLOWS us to earn our money. It is also supposed to protect us from foreign invaders. Taxes are NOT a GIFT to the government.
playaplayag7 3 months ago
@playaplayag7 lol just so you know I don't like people calling me fella and ROFL a lot of growing up to do...you are the one that can't think for yourself and only talk propaganda BS. I'm sorry foreign invaders? Governments protect themselves with your taxes, they will let you die if they can benefit.
Sood81 3 months ago
@Sood81 You can change the arguement 1000 times and all you will do is reveal how little you know about WHY things exist as they do. This is the LAST message that I will post to address your ignorance. Go ahead and have the last word, but remember... The silent majority of people think your ideas are bad. They considered all the same B.S. you are promoting, but they realized the FLAWS in those ideas and are making their own lives better WITHOUT begging for a handout or for socialism.
playaplayag7 3 months ago
@playaplayag7 I wasn't commenting because I want the last word or want to win:/ And please tell me what I was promoting, which ideas are you talking about. Just because I said somethings against capitalism and show you your comments don't make sense doesn't mean I am 'promoting' other systems. Freedom should also be letting people try out other systems instead of only promoting capitalism and saying it is the only way to gain the most freedom.
Sood81 3 months ago
@Sood81 The world didnt just become the way it is over night. And it wants some spooky mystical conspiracy. People were looking for the most efficient means of survival. Initially that means was immoral (slavery, murder, stealing), but through science, innovation, inventions and general progress, everyone CAN benefit. But poor people have their reasons for being poor. Maybe they were handycapped by an accident, is that our fault? Or maybe they are lazy... again, not OUR fault.
playaplayag7 3 months ago
@playaplayag7 What have those things done for us? We have more diseases now than ever and we have people starving. Keep on talking rubbish, when poverity hits you or your children you can tell yourself it's your fault.
Sood81 3 months ago
@Sood81 I can see that you simply have it in for capitalism. You think that capitalism CAUSES these diseases to exist.... That tells me you are not logical enough to reach. Well hate it or love it, capitalism has lead to the fastest advancement of the human race in the history of our existence on this planet. And the freedom that Free Market Capitalism requires to function has lead to a better lifestyle for even the poorest American when compared to the poor in other nations. But ur right :-/
playaplayag7 3 months ago
@Sood81 and that standard remains high not because we are better or even smarter.... Its because we have a system in place where the most essential things for survival are also cheap to purchase. A bum can eat for just quarters a day in this country. Give a man in a 3rd world country DOLLARS a day, and theres still a possibility that he will starve because there may be no food vender to accept his money in exchange for food...
playaplayag7 3 months ago
@Sood81 If a person sets a goal for world peace or to end world hunger they are probably being unreasonable. If u want peace, then surrender your belongings to the criminal who intends to steal them from you. Or adopt sharia law. Im pretty sure that if I give my enemy whatever he wants, he will not longer be my enemy, he will become my master..... Im not with that, EVER. If a man is hungry let him work to get his food. Every other animal on this planet does SOME work to eat, and so should we.
playaplayag7 3 months ago
To completely heal our souls from the virus of White Supremacy, we must delete Capitalism, Western Consumerism, Christianity and Islam from our minds. All of which were malicious premeditated and used in our ongoing demise. We can live in the world without European capitalism. Its they who are afflicted with the insatiable need for the property of everyone else. They created it, let them keep it. But, we must know it as the most destructive virus for black Africans, throughout the world.
careforcaregivers 4 months ago
I am a Capitalist.....woohoo!
Losers want to sponge of others...fuck you
shotsky94 4 months ago
@shotsky94 Capitalism it THE biggest sponger around! So I say, yes - fuck Capitalists!
AfricansArise 4 months ago
@AfricansArise If you mean the economic system which allows the voluntary exchange of goods and services between two or more individuals or businesses, then Capitalism is the key.
shotsky94 4 months ago
@shotsky94 No, I mean the economic system where a tiny minority of people get super-rich at the expense of the majority of people who actually do all the work. This is text-book sponging.
AfricansArise 4 months ago
@AfricansArise And finally, "A claim for equality of material position can be met only be a government with totalitarian powers". FA Hayek
Is it any wonder socialist countries tend to be run by dictators.
shotsky94 4 months ago
I hate to say it, but your thinking on this matter is a bit skewed, and I think that your focus--as is usually the case--is on "social system," instead of where it belongs, which is on white supremacy and racism.
aquatiq 5 months ago
africansarise thanks this was very informative. The problem that i continue to grapple with is the unwillingness of many of us africans to want to change our situation, im beginning to wonder if that is even possible, given what we are now up against.
phoenixchi28 8 months ago
@phoenixchi28 Thanks fam - I know how you feel. I guess we need to remind ourselves that in many places, people are making very significant changes in re-balancing their societies to a more people-friendly system. But it can be hard to get information about this, especially in the media. But for example, while it's far from perfect - Venezuela has taken some massive steps in the last decade and a half. And there are plenty of Africans there. Another example would be Brazil.
AfricansArise 7 months ago
re-thought it ... its not about profit, it about power..... profit is only one means to power(but a very quick one)
modogray 8 months ago
Brother I rate this video a lot from the hood in West London, I'm spreading this video to all the hood rats in the ends. From the youth where I am we need to get the message spread...
PrideOfMancunia 1 year ago
What about Church vs. Capitalism?
DOCTORDANification 1 year ago
like george carlin(rip) said they have a war on drugs but you'll never really have a war on poverty because there's no money in that real talk there's nothing for them to gain from ending poverty
imthrowed94 1 year ago
arabs need to fix them self nd there goverment..... they took african out of tha mother land nd used us lik worn out rags...
dredre341 1 year ago
We need sacrifice, we need tonprogram our youth we our truth, our story, we need dedication, we need real men and women to stand up- then we will create a system that will benefit us and not be influenced and controlled by others!
777Imhotep 1 year ago
There are a few points I need to make. your vid is great, but it makes no mention of Arabs in the slave trade. I agree that capitalism has wreaked havoc on Afrikans throughout the world. That being said, most Afrikans won't abandon capitalism, ownership of material posssessions no matter how horribly we fair under that system. We need to have a system to replace capitalism and the means to protect that system.
blakkbandit22 1 year ago
@blakkbandit22 Thanks man. And yes, I didn't mention the Arabs as the scope of the video was deliberately quite narrow. But I'd like to probably do a video on the whole issue of how we relate to Arabs.
AfricansArise 1 year ago
@AfricansArise Ok I got you now. I like the vid and hope you continue the great work.
blakkbandit22 1 year ago
@AfricansArise I appreciate your analysis and it is very good, but I think the problem is greater than capitalism... the problem is white supremacy... capitalism is merely a tool of white supremacy, so is communism... we need a system that transcends these white supremacist ideologies of control...but that is just my opinion according to the evidence I have seen.. What do you think...?
modogray 9 months ago
Great video
Capitalism causes people to be poor. What corruption there is in politics is entirely caused by the capitalists as they work to control the system with money. No, the problem is capitalism. It is the most exploitative system in world history and ultimately must be abolished just as was slavery and feudalism.
BklynKen 1 year ago 3
@BklynKen Thanks fam. Good to give the historical references (slavery and feudalism) It's kinda shocking how alot of people think Capitalism is somekind of benign, natural system which is all about simple buying and selling. We need some serious education!
AfricansArise 1 year ago
@AfricansArise
Brother, Capitalists spend alot of money to bamboozle the masses. But history tell us the truth. Humans have been around for about 2 million years. For majority of that time, nobody owned any of the land and we survived by forming societies to promote the well-being of all. Capitalism has only been around for a few hundred years and it has threatening the very survival of the planet as well as impoverishing more than 80% of the world's population.
BklynKen 1 year ago 2
U wrote "Communism falsely espouses the notion that everyone is the same." False. Communist advocate that all should be free from necessity & live harmoniously.There is nothing wrong with non antagonistic 'differences' among people.This is not about 'communism' tho.U just want to be a 'black face' saviour of the Queen of England & her capitalist system.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 First of all, I do not support the British regime, nor do I seek to be a saviour of Queen Elizabitch. Secondly, I just simply acknowledge the beneficial factors of Capitalism and the vast amount of economic opportunities it offers. Capitalism is much more efficient than Communism because it utilizes competition to drive down prices. Lastly, I suggest that you stop being a puppet on strings for your Marxist masters.
Competition leads to innovation
The501c3 1 year ago
@The501c3 First of all,u do indeed support the British regime, & u do seek to be a saviour of Queen Elizabitch. EVERYthing u post here is an affirmation of the 'British system' of which your queen is a part-Capitalism.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 Secondly, u just simply acknowledge,n YOUR veiw, the 'beneficial factors' of white power Capitalism and the vast amount of 'economic opportunities' it offers the white collective over non white people.Yes,u obviously just LOVE whte power economics over non white powerlessness.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 As YOU post White power economics ,ie capitalism is MORE efficient than 'Communism ' (but of course) because it utilizes competition to drive down prices.Ah yes,the Black & non white worlds problem is 'high prices' & lack of competition NOT neo colonialism,racism white supremacy & an unjust parasitical capitalist system of international white power economics!
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 U r indeed a strange creature..but then a purported 'African' lover of Queen Elizabeth's white power capitalism by definition should b. And so u r.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 U wrote :"Lastly, I suggest that you stop being a puppet on strings for your Marxist masters." Hmmm'Marxist Masters'?..where have i heard THAT terminology b4?...ah yes,Mussalini,Hitler,the KKK,The Boer leadership,the British ,French,Italian,Spanish,Hungarian,Romanian,Turkish,Royal Families & their capitalist propagandist ,corporate heads & hanger ons,the white colonial leaders in Africa & Asia & their native neocolonial puppets....ALL enemies of Africa & African people!
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 I think your childish obsession with Socialism is purely based on romanticism. You're probably infactuated with the idea of overthrowing the US gov. in the same manner your Bolshevik heroes toppled the Tsarist autocracy in Russia in 1917. Those those events might sound exhilarating, but you must realize that we live in a modern society that is dominated by free-enterprise. Capitalism isn't going anywhere, adopt it or be crushed by it.
Are you a member of the Socialist Workers Party?
The501c3 1 year ago
@The501c3 I think your obsession with white power economics-capitalism- is purely based on a subliminal love for Queen Elizabeth & any other white female that u may b involved with as a queen elizabeth substitute.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 You're probably infatuated with the idea of that White power is here to stay,& is immutable & indestructible...& so much better than ANY thing a 'darkie' might postulate in his non white delusional mind 2 replace it. ...
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 Well,my dear,that might sound exhilarating to a white power economics lover like U, but u must realize that we live in a modern society where white numbers are decreasing,non white numbers are expanding & capitalist-white economical power- will not & cannot bring equity,justice or empowerment to the world majority.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 How dare you accuse me of treason. I'm a Pan-African/Black nationalist, therefore, I do not believe in having sexual relations with European women(they're filthy, homosexual beast). Their population is declining drastically and they're severely below replacement levels, however, Capitalism will prevail as the world's dominant economic system. Moreover, this gives Africa the chance to re-emerge on the scene as a strong powerhouse. We need another Nubian/Mali/Ghana/Songhai empire.
The501c3 1 year ago
@The501c3:I don't need to accuse u of anything,dear!Your own post r sufficent.U wrote on my page that Africa needed 2 keep its Berlin conference imposed Borders drawn up 2 specifically decimate the natural pre colonial flow of African life,tie neo colonial elites & the local economies to white European 'mother' nations & thus bind Africans 2 a self defeating ethos that we suffer from 2 this day.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 Than u post that white power economics " will prevail as the world's dominant economic system." even after the natural decline of the white collective world wide through some crazy individuals owners that will want to carry on a global system of 'legal'(at the point of a gun!)theft,fraud,usury & enforced deprivation on one hand & inequitable gross accumulation on the other...and u say i 'accuse' u of treason?? look n your mirror 4 your accuser!!
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 And finally u top off your soliloquy of love 2 the white power economics system of your sweet heart Queen Elizabeth with the absurd postulation"I'm a Pan-African/Black nationalist"!A ' Pan-African-Black neo colonialist white power economical apologist,is more accurate.btw..are you a Christian?
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 Furthermore, Self proclaimed Socialists such as yourself hinder Africa's economic development because you openly support Chinese Expansionism into the African continent.
The501c3 1 year ago
@The501c3 I support the abolishment of racism white supremacy world wide & neo colonialism in the African world specificaly.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 I support the resources of the African continent b n African hands,the African continent united into one SOCIALIST state lead by the party of the African working class & rural farmers,based on the theories of Garvey,Toure,Nkrumah,Lumumba & others.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 .An all-African party that will guide true conscious Pan-African/Black nationalist petty bourgeois as a class as well as African capitalist individuals to put their talents 2 work for the people as they build a harmonious african socialist system.Thats what i support.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 Yes, the western industrialized world is crumbling into decay, but every other group is economically empowering themselves by utilizing capitalism to their advantage. African people can no longer afford to idly stand by and complain about social injustices, while everyone else is building their empires. Socialism is not a reliable system due to its inefficiencies in central planning. A collectivized economy does not have a supply & demand system to determine consumer demand.
The501c3 1 year ago
@The501c3 U say "other group (r) economically empowering themselves by utilizing capitalism 2 their advantage." true
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 & i've posted repeatedly that there is NOTHING wrong with revelutionary socialist using aspects of capitalism 2 build socialism.Lenin did it n the USSR,Deng has done it n China & any sensible serious socialist revelutionary is open 2 anything that brings the success of socialism.Capitalist use an array of things 2 build & maintain capitalism,true socialist du the same 2 build socialism.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 Capitalism as a dominant global system was born as white power economics & is maintained by the global white collective as such .Thus it is not a reliable system due to its inefficiencies in providing the best for the most if massive 'profits' r not involved. A white privately owned socially produced global economy(capitalism) does not have a supply & demand system to deliver a system that will abolish planetary poverty much less end white supremacy.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 They used Capitalist policies as a response to uplifit their country's economy from stagnation and despair, something central planning was unsuccessful in doing. Privatization is what led to PRC & Russia's economic growth. There is nothing wrong with being motivated by profit as long as there are regulations to curve massive expoitation such as child labor laws and federal mandated wages. Greed is a normal human behavior that provides incentives for people to improve themselves.
The501c3 1 year ago
@The501c3U wrote" (Lenin & Deng) used Capitalist policies as a response to uplifit their country's economy from stagnation and despair"No,in the case of both They used internal market policies to kick start rapid accumulation of profit because as wise stewards of newly socialized economies in a world based on predatory capitalist imperialist individuals with vast armies of virtual slaves,they needed the wealth as a base 2 protect & secure socialism in there respective sectors.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
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@yorubablk3 "predatory capitalist imperialist individuals with vast armies of virtual slaves."
The Soviets were not exactly advocates of peace and freedom as you so foolishly believe. After the Second World war, they forcefully imposed Communist regimes in much of Eastern Europe, and forced the bloc countries to sign the Warsaw pact. Also, the Red Army was notorious for raping women. Communists are not imperialists? What about the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
The501c3 1 year ago
@The501c3 U wrote"The Soviets were not exactly advocates of peace and freedom as you so foolishly believe. After the Second World war, they forcefully imposed Communist regimes in much of Eastern Europe, and forced the bloc countries to sign the Warsaw pact. Also, the Red Army was notorious for raping women"
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 Ok this is were u truly stand stark naked of your phony 'Pan Afrikan/Black nationalist' online ' fig leaf'.U wanna talk USSR? Lets . During WW2 the USSR smashed Facist Italy (that had invaded Ethiopia) & Itialian Communist shot & hung a dead Mussalini from a gas station,upside down.U got a problem with that Mr Pan Africanist?
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 The USSR smashed Nazism,u know i. e.HITLER...& in so doin made ALL white supremacist face the eventual morality of their system.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 The Soviets barely defeated their European counterparts. In the initial battles of the war they suffered massive casualties as a result of being poorly trained, and ill-equipped. Prior to the war, Stalin killed most of the experienced generals, which contributed to the lack of coherent leadership within the Red Army. Additionally, they would've lost if it weren't for the cold winter climate and the subsequent decisive battles at Stalingrad & Kursk.
The501c3 1 year ago
@The501c3 Yes & gave many millions lives defending the revelutionary Socialist USSR & thus defeating the new capitalist white power imperial aggression& re-division of the global capitalist 'pot' in the form Of Nazi Germany & its coalition of the willing during 'WW2 .
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 The USSR also proved 2 b an indespensable allie of all oppressed people when it help make the international enviourment in which ALL the rest of global white supremacy goverments had 2 hide,disguise or reform & eventually discarde the most obvious & immediately odious white racist features & practices of their governments & businesses & chastise the ones that didn't,ala aparthied South Africa & the Zionism IS racism movement againts Israel.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 Why did the USSR unjustifiably invade Finland after Stalin(your hero) signed a treaty with Hitler. You claim the Soviet Union was fighting for justice, but at the same time they allied themselves with the Nazis, when it was convenient for their imperialist agenda.
The501c3 1 year ago
@The501c3 The revelutionary socialist USSR did many things in the context of confronting the global capitalist imperial white power system of the British empire,its anglo off spring the USA ,Nazi Germany, the French,Italian & other reactionary white empires & pro-CAPITALIST goverments. Its first duty was to protect socialism on its home soil & it was very correct to do so.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 Yes,not having a system built on the backs of enslaved Black servants or their descendants,not having a Christian church or Mosque to teach fantasy while exploiting Africans,not suppoerting global systems that did so & waging do or die WARS ,cold or hot,againts white power colonialist capitalist & capitalist corporatist (aka Fascist) definitely puts Stalin in the 'Hero' & 'allie' column to me.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 MANY anti imperialist,anti colonialist & anti white supremist forces from all over the world received much material support from the USSR n its 70 year existence,including Africans on the continent & diaspora.Got a problem with that Mr "Black nationalist- not' ?
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 Tho far from perfect,the USSR contribution 2 the worlds non white progressive forces was immense & in historical terms indispensable.And like China of today,the former USSR shows all African people that we can resist white power Imperialism & capitalism & when necessary,defeat & end it for something FAR better:SOCIALISM
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 I wish you would seriously stop equating Socialism with Black nationalism. I'm only concerned with the affairs of my people and not of other races. Whereas you are promoting internationalism with other people who seek to do us harm.
The501c3 1 year ago
@The501c3 TheMeso-Persian, Greek,Roman,Arab,Portuguese,Spanish,Italian,French,Dutch,German & British imperial & capitalist powers that brought slavery,mind control in the form of Christianity & Islam,aggressive wars of Black ethnocide,colonial & neo colonial division & subjugation of white power economics of CAPITALISM is the "internationalism with other people" that sought, seeks & DID "do us harm".And ALL of which i as a pro socialist & anti imperialist African oppose.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 I wish you would seriously stop equating capitalism with Black nationalism. I'm only concerned with the affairs of my people and not of other races. Whereas you are promoting capitalist internationalism with other people who actualy do & have a history of doing harm 2 africans,ie,the USA,British,french,Spanish,portoguese,Arab,Italian,Greek capatalist,all from countries that have had or have colonies or neo colonies in Africa.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
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The501c3 1 year ago
@The501c3 And in doing so they both set a sterling & stellar example as Communist human beings & mighty contributors to the cause of freedom 4 humanity by showing,once & forever that there was a humane & correct way for industrialization & development & that capitalist accumulation did not require the global genocide,slave trade & race war that the euros inaugurated as they developed the world capitalist system.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 Africa needs independence,unity ,control of its own resources under African Socialism.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 African nations should not be united under the veil of Socialism, but through economic cohesion. The precious resources of Africa cannot be properly maintained or distributed by a colossal state controlled by bureaucrats.
The501c3 1 year ago
@The501c3 "African nations should not be united under the veil of Socialism, but through economic cohesion" Socialism IS 'economic cohesion'.T
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 "Then u wrote" The precious resources of Africa cannot be properly maintained or distributed by a colossal state controlled by bureaucrats."I beg your pardon?If a 'colossal' socialist African state were in existance my concerns about white power economic control & domination of Africa & African people & your love of British economics(capitalism) disguised as 'pan African' concern over something U call ''Chinese colonialism' would b moot points as neither concern would exist.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 And it is the duty of the TRUE sons & daughters of Africa to expel ALL invaders,put african resources in collective socialized hands to serve the needs of the African people collectivly & world wide
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 ... and build & maintain just such an all African socialist state apparatus so that the tragic ongoing African Ma'afa of the last 2,000 years at the hands of Euro's,Arabs & capitalist en-slavers & exploiters of African people is stopped,reversed and made an eternal impossibility 2 ever repeat.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 "Communist human beings & mighty contributors to the cause of freedom 4 humanity by showing,once & forever that there was a humane & correct way for industrialization."
The Great Leap Forward was a disastrous attempt at modernising China's infrastructure. Millions of people starved to death in the process, and some were even tortured and executed for not meting certain quotas. Also, the structures built during this period were poorly constructed.
The501c3 1 year ago
@The501c3 U wrote of China's industrialization under the communist party:"The Great Leap Forward was a disastrous attempt at modernising China's infrastructure. Millions of people starved to death in the process, and some were even tortured and executed for not meting certain quotas. Also, the structures built during this period were poorly constructed"
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 N the context of white peoples path 2 industrialzation(capitalism) hijacking & genicidal 'conquest' of the western hemisphere,est;100,000,000 lost,the trans atlantic slave trade,est 300,000,000 lost....
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 ..the colonialization of Africa & Sout Asia & the islands of the Pacific & the incessent wars that accompinied there drive 2 industrialize & refine the capitalist global system of organized crime ,white power ,theft & greed?YES INDEED 'Communist are contributors 2 the cause of freedom 4 humanity by showing,once & forever that there was(& IS) a humane & correct way for industrialization."
SOCIALISM!
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 And just what kind of "Pan Afrikanist/Black nationalist" are u posing as??You think that the 700 years of global white power race war,colonization that gave birth 2 capitalism as a global system,African enslavement & the capitalist Diaspora disbursement,the dropping of Nukes on babies ,women ,men & children in a capitalist 'world' war r 'good things' for Afrikan people??U,sir,stand naked & exposed as a US Johnnie Carson type proponant of white power economics & imperialism n Africa.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 "No,in the case of both They used internal market policies to kick start rapid accumulation of profit."
Again, those "internal market policies" were heavily infleunced by Capitalist principles. Deng reformed China's economy by permitting privatization and foreign capital investment, which is the contributing factor to much of PRC's success.
The501c3 1 year ago
@The501c3 U asked "Are you a member of the Socialist Workers Party?"No
yorubablk3 1 year ago
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The501c3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 In a Socialist society, the state centrally plans the economy. As a result, the economy is usually stagnant and there is no incentive to advance or produce anything innovative. In addition, the state has a very difficult time deciding what goods to produce since it does not rely on consumer demand.
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The501c3 1 year ago
To AfricansArise:
At the begining of the video you said "Capitalism must go in order to Africans to be free" . Do you think that our people should empower themselves economically and then build our own Capitalist system?
KushWarriorReturns 1 year ago
@KushWarriorReturns Capitalism is built on explitation of the many by the few. It is an unjust system and which doesn't serve the needs of people. We can make certain progress within this system, but we should be working toward building a better system that is suited to the needs of the majority.
AfricansArise 1 year ago
@AfricansArise
"we should be working toward building a better system that is suited to the needs of the majority". No we should build a system that brings advantages for us only. You see...thats the problem with African people always thinking about the well-being of all the other races when all the other races hates them and secondly they are all in a better condition than our so why do we need to think about their god damn needs.
KushWarriorReturns 1 year ago
@KushWarriorReturns Let me clarify- You asked should we build our own Capitalism. We should not build our own Capitalism because this would involve a few Africans exploiting the majority of Africans. If Shell Oil was 100% African-owned and still did the same things they do now, it would still be an enemy of our people. We need to remember that being African doesn't automatically mean being good. OnyxIsis made this point very well in her video.
AfricansArise 1 year ago
@AfricansArise "We need to remember that being African doesn't automatically mean being good".
You are not making me learn any new thing with that wrote that! I already know that we have Uncle Toms, race traitors and cracker lovers among us who love to betray their own people just to be accepted by their oppressor.
KushWarriorReturns 1 year ago
Many 'blacks' like Materialism and Capilism as a way of snobbing other black people. Thus, 1 black climbing the Just Over Broke (JOB) Ladder and proud to be the only black their. Many refuse to allow other blacks to gain positions. In my opinion fuck the whole hierachy, blacks should start their own business.
Anyway, capitalism is very biblical and oppressive system method of control.
love83forever 1 year ago
all truth here. African can not use euro money or standards to live our lives by. it has destroyed our ability to use our own mechanisms to survive and thrive, bless up your voice...Africa Lives!
rdawta 1 year ago
@rdawta Thanks for the positive energy sis.
AfricansArise 1 year ago
europeans tried first as "INDIGENOUS??" the black indian and the red indian who are apart of the 12 tribes of israel were tried first along side the black spanish moors...aztec, mayans, indians(12 tribe)...before the diaspora when one large land mass south america fit at the bottom of africa and the north allong the west side
as one comment already stated we lived in agreement for over thousands of years..and evil thought of capitalism(indigenous black exploitation) is only -400 years
doncam02 1 year ago
@HEAVENLYTRUTH1 Okay. I've got that lecture on my channel too. I'll have to watch it again to see where he talks about that.
AfricansArise 1 year ago
“They talk about the failure of socialism, but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?” - Castro
Really like you're videos, love from sweden!
PointlessRiot 1 year ago
@PointlessRiot Thanks! I hope you guys have caught that gunman in Malmo now
AfricansArise 1 year ago
@PointlessRiot China, India, Singapore, South Korea, Japan, Botswana, and Chile
smoothbrother69 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 China is an example of the success of socialism,not capitalism.India has millions of people who are marginalized & desperately & savagely poor & dispossessed under capitalism & has a huge Maoist insurrection in some ares as a result.Japan & South Korea are US military penis extenders aimed at the communist Masses of Asia & Chile & Botswana are both specialized out post of white supremacy aimed at revelutionary indigenous populations in Bolivia & Zimbabwe respectively.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 No China is not a socialist country. Their is no national health program and all of the large corporation and industry in china are run by private enterprises. China is the most capitalistic country on the planet. you give the US and white more credit then they deserve all these country are independent nation who have used capitalism to better the lives of their people. For socialism does not work because it can not create wealth it only redistributes it.
smoothbrother69 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 Ok..here it goes in 1 full swoop.Yes china IS a 'socialist' country.NO the UK is not a socialist country.USA President Obama is NOT a 'socialist'.Neither was A.Hitler,he was a German fascist.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
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smoothbrother69 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 I dont know how Obama and Hitler entered this conversation. But Capitalism is the only system that works in today world. every other system creates poverty and great inequality. While capitalism creates large middle class that stabilize and sustain long term growth. With that growth you can begin to address the needs of the poor and downtrodden in a country. Stop hating white people they have given us a lot of good with the bad. Capitalism is one of them.
smoothbrother69 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 The " poverty and great inequality" in the world are a fundamental product of the global white power economic system of capitalism.Without either it couldn't exist.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 Are u kidding me. Before capitalism people were either poor or rich. Agrarian societies were full of poor people not middle class which was extremely small. you cant artifically create middle class. Middle class comes from the growth of private industry which is what most people work for not government manipulation. You cant have capitalism without a creation of middle class because of the way market forces create business and jobs.
smoothbrother69 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 Capitalism historically & uniquely crates an alienated 'working class',ie,a proletariat.The middle class,as opposed to the petty & grand bourgeois under capitalism was produced out of the 'working class' by two major processes: #1.Socialist & social democratic political & economic pressure on capitalist in capitalist countries & #2 the threat from radical regimes that challenge capitalist hegemony thus pressuring the capitalist to prop up a 'middle class' for 'social peace'
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 you placing too much control in the hands of the west which can only control their own actions and not enough emphasis on the failure of Africans to invest and create the type of communities that will grow wealth and properity. What Africa suffer from in not western colonialism but instead a failure to adapt to the changing world around them. In a lot of the disporia you can see some of that mentality as well. A lot of the emphasis on making whites do something is stupid it is about.
smoothbrother69 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 U wrote:" you placing too much control in the hands of the west which can only control their own actions and not enough emphasis on the failure of Africans to invest and create the type of communities that will grow wealth and properity." You need to goggle "Wiki leaks Africa" After doing that get back to me.Then we'll have a common ground work 2 address the reality of what is ,& not your subjectivity.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 what we as a people will do to get ahead in the society. People who become successful in capitalist society all have one thing in common and that is drive, a willingness to learn, and good sense of self responsiblity. These are the things that are people are not getting b/c of false doctrine of the all-mighty white god who will keep you down and enslave no matter what you do. Remeber the biggest lie whites told to blacks was that they were all powerful so we should be scared of them.
smoothbrother69 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 U wrote:"what we as a people will do to get ahead in the society" Translation?:"Get in where u fit in".NOPE.Black people need to be in the center of revolutionizing the entire species,by A.Taking back our minds,lives & resources & .B.Thus reordering the world like the greco Romans did 2 thousand years ago.What was humanly possible then is humanly doable now.And for Black survival necessary,as capitalism is not a long term sustainable system.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 U wrote "While capitalism creates large middle class that stabilize and sustain long term growth. With that growth you can begin to address the needs of the poor and downtrodden in a country." The 'middle class' in today's world was created by 2 things in reaction to & in spite of,not because of,capitalism
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 when government gets into bed with big business it is not a true free market systems. because government is the one who is decieding who get wealth and not the people themselves. Which is what you see in most third world countries. Secondly I think you focus to much on the white man. I am very afrocentric in the sense that I look at the world through a Africans eyes. Afrocentrism is not about hating whites which is stupid it is about loving yourself which obviously you dont.
smoothbrother69 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 What we see in most 3rd world countries is the capitalism of the colonial & postcolonial euro-US global imperial periphery.As far as my focus?I identify facts. As for 'hating'?I hate injustice & imbalance & anything that diminishes or negativly impacts the ongoing collective presence of 'Black' & African people on Earth.If u have a problem with that,tell someone who cares.I don't.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 But that is not what is going on. You cant have it both ways if countries like Japan have accepted the west and are doing well then how is it that 3rd world countries have also accepted the west and are doing bad. First of all capitalist do not like poor people. poverty stops the wealthy from getting more wealthy. I hate injustice just the way you do but we obviouly do not see the same things.
smoothbrother69 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 "if countries like Japan have accepted the west and are doing well then how is it that 3rd world countries have also accepted the west and are doing bad. First of all capitalist do not like poor people. poverty stops the wealthy from getting more wealthy".#1.Japan.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 culture plays a big part in it. If you look these 3rd world countries, they have been colonized by euro countries, were culture has been perverted and christianity has been introduced. Japan is a secular country, which means they do capitalism on their own terms. Also, I think Japan's culture is not as communal as countries like Africa, pacific islands, and other places. This is just my opinion.
mr41ststreet 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 Japan pre 1945 was an equal power to western European imperial capitalist powers that were only what they were because they had brutaly occupied an entire hemisphere & enslaved millions from another continent & thus controlled both,and was ahead of the other white,non imperialist ones.As a regional hegemon on the rise it threatened white global control.Thus it had to be 'brought to heel'..and it was by the slaughter of their civilian men ,women & babies with Atom bombs.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 Japan has since 'fit in where it was put in' & despite a facade of 'success' ultimate control of Japan is in the hands of rich white capitalist.they same ones that japan,with all its 'smarts' NEVER contradicts,disobeys or challenges..because they can't.Thats no 'modal' for 'Black succes'...thats what we have as Black people now...A few emasculated 'non whites' reflecting the benefits of being controlled by somebody else.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 #2." First of all capitalist do not like poor people. poverty stops the wealthy from getting more wealthy." As that statement clearly contradicts what is clearly & casually observable over the last 300 years,with the 'rich getting richer & the poor,poorer' globally under capitalism,i'll just let reality refute that crazy assertion.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 #1.Socialist & social democratic political & economic pressure on capitalist in capitalist countries & #2 the threat from radical regimes that challenge capitalist hegemony thus pressuring the capitalist to prop up a 'middle class' for 'social peace'.History has shown through colonial aggression,feudal kingdoms,liberal democracies & fascist totalitarian states,capitalism can do quite well without or in oppisition 2 a 'middle class'.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 Finally u get past the coverscreen of capitalism vs communism n China,etc.& got to your REAL point when u wrote"Stop hating white people they have given us a lot of good with the bad. Capitalism is one of them." Well at lest U r not camouflaging your worship of white aggression & insulting 1's intelligence by saying u r a ' Pan African /Black Nationalist.'lol
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 Well, at least you're honest about your unwavering devotion to the recolonization of the African continent by Chinese imperialists, lol. You have demonstrated that you are a lackey for your Socialist master Hu Jin Tao and the rest of his Chinese cohorts. It was the christianized and islamized negroes, who supported the oppressors in usurping and destroying ancient African kingdoms. Now, it seems negroes are masquerading behind Socialism to aid Africa's enemies.
The501c3 1 year ago
@The501c3 I deal in fact not fantasy.As soon as u show facualy a Chinese communist colony (never mind the fact that China has been trading with African polities for 3,000 years with NO colonization) in Africa,i'll consider it.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 and as for "Africa's enemies" those have historically been inner disunion between some Africans who saw themselves as individuals as opposed to being part of an African whole) & the European & west Asiatic peoples using false religious mythologies based on corrupted African certainties as psych war tools to unhinge African peoples from their humanity & sovereignty.Capitalism as a global system derieved from this war againts Africans.Capitalism IS 'the enemy of Africa'.Cure? Socialism
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@The501c3 The only 'masquerade' is u pretending to be a Pan African/Black nationalist. U r a pro White economic,white world confirming believer in eternal black & African 'inferiority' by the jist of your own post here.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 Now.. having got that out of the way...China is a socialist country ran,not by 'private enterprise' but by the Communist Party of China.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 I dont you get it. China is a communist country in the sense that it is controlled by one ruling political party. But when it comes to economics it is completely capitalistic. Like I said the major industry of china are controlled by individual private companies and are not government run. That is the based of their growth over the past years. before china was not a free market the way it is now. Like I said before no social safety nets in china because it is fully capitalistic.
smoothbrother69 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 U wrote " dont you get it. China is a communist country in the sense that it is controlled by one ruling political party. But when it comes to economics it is completely capitalistic." WRONG.'when it comes to economics,it is a socialist 'mixed' economy that combines state controlled enterprises,market forces & independent businesses along with pointed foreign investment in a thought out pre planned context created & overseen & implemented by Chinese communist.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 U wrote " I dont you get it" TRUE,u don't.. "China is a communist country in the sense that it is controlled by one ruling political party" No China is a 'communist' country because it is ruled ,organized & maintained by Chinese communist.The number of political parties it has nothing to do with it.its what the party that actualy rules & explains how & why it does that which it does that determines what it is.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 China is currently using aspects of market relations to 'create wealth' to redistribute,thus strengthening socialism.Its almost like the USA in reverse that used socialist programs & methods 1932-1980 to buttress capitalism.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 you are confusing capitalism with demorcracy b/c you have been brainwashed by the west to believe that they are both the same thing. Secondly India is a fast growing economy that has increased it middle class from what it was previously. Just because countries do not go out and rail against the west does not mean they are somehow extensions of the west. China and the US are similiar in the way they grew in the sense that stabilty was establish then the free market was allowed to work
smoothbrother69 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 U wrote"China and the US are similiar in the way they grew in the sense that stabilty was establish then the free market was allowed to work"WRONG.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 .The USA is a white settler collection of concocted entities they called 'states' that used usurped indigenous land,enslaved Africans & overseas colonies to augment a free market capitalist economy from the gate.China,however,is an ancient natural country,that had a socialist revelution that rearranged property relations under a revelutionary communist party,that made several innovative & creative changes to produce their own style of socialism.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@smoothbrother69 Its almost like the USA in reverse that used socialist programs & methods 1932-1980 to buttress capitalism.Neither country ownership of the means of production changed making them the opposite of what they truthfully state that they are.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@yorubablk3 Actually, Hitler was a Socialist or National Socialist, which is a form of Socialism that lacks the key concept of uniting every race/ethnic group under a classeless society. Your socioeconomic/political ideals are more aligned with those of Hitler, as he strongly believed in nationalizing major privatized businesses. He also claimed to be an avid contender against the "tyranny" of Capitalism. Marxists and National Socialists both share the same beliefs in tolitarian contol.
The501c3 1 year ago