If you like Britney why are you listening to Tebaldi? Contrary to your comment...Ignorant people do not usually listen to Tebaldi, and really how many people will remember "Gimme More, " and Britney twenty or thirty years from now? Apparently, people are still listening to Tebaldi thirty years later! However, you are entitled to your own opinion.
Bravo Yetelski! Well said. What many seem to forget is that almost every singer on here was outstanding in one way or another. They are the "Cream of the Crop." The concept of "best" is purely a matter of personal taste. Every great singer has always had their detractors and also, ever since the early days of opera, fans have wanted to pit one singer against another. Listen to what you like; don't listen to what you dont like.
ola the children, you will not start again the match tebaldi-callas? no form of intêret. each one had its repertory where it shone and each one was bad in another...
hard hard the comments... I would like that all the current singers have the same line of song. Let us not forget that Tebaldi is here at the end of the career....
Seems to me like most people who post comments here are frustrated, embittered, sad queens who'd just LOVE to have at least some sort of career. Making nasty remarks about others hopefully makes them feel better about themselves. Tebaldi at this stage of her career was not about beautiful or perfect singing. Just as Callas at the end of her career was a sad display of a voice in ruins. Enjoy what these artists did in their prime, and if you don't like them, spare us your nasty comments!
Tebaldi was lovely in her own set of roles: Mimi, Manon, Butterfly, Leonora, Tosca, Santuzza, Adriana... To hear these Tebaldi is definitely your best bet.
Stome, that's ridiculous. Callas sang ravishing Ds and Es, check out the AIDA were she interpolated an E flat in the triumphal march! Don't spread nonsense that can be proven false by recordings, ok?
monteaventino-ok, we have understood that you dont like callas. give a break to the others who love her. You will not tell us which people we can admire!!isn't it???? you can express your opinion but you cannot insult such a huge personality like MARIA CALLAS !!!
Callas' voice wasn't beautifully tamed. NO tone, NO good coloratura, NO control over her metallic voice, bad technique for her frayed, clumsy and weak coloratura.
As an opera actress she wast one of the best, but sometimes she was overacting. Her drama on her voice was remarcable, but her unpolished voice wasn't the best.
Oh monteaventtino, how I enjoy your postings...it isn't often that one is able to find someone who is as big a blithering dumbass as you. So please, keep snorting or injecting yourself with whatever you're on, because I can hardly wait for your next posting.
I wrote these commentaries for the horrible voice of Maria Callas. potrodsas or maxhansendk an old gay and crazy fanatic of the primma donna with cracked voice (the ugly Callas) is distorting my commentaries:
"Callas voice has really really gone down (O Mio Babbino Caro - London - 1975-77?)
Callas missed a lot of notes and was off tune most of it, and she is screaming horribly too.
Her musicianship is comical: always late on time, wrong dynamics ,away from musical mood. As for musical phrasing??she does not know what that it is.. And an
Gspichuni, with all due respect, Tebaldi's voice is not dry, tinny, insecure, or shallow. It is not common. It is divine. And, one can't attack her musicianship: no, she wasn't moving in Maria's manner, but she was thrilling, & the electricity in a Tebaldi Butterfly or a Tebaldi Tosca is something out of this world.
Her phrasing is actually quite perfect too, and she was, for the most part, very true to the score.
VivaMariaCallas. To my understanding we are obliged to you use words who look unrelated to the subject when speaking about voices.
For instance nobody can find a voice ''heavy''..but we do and this is the nearest thing we can offer.
Therefore the''dry tinny shallow''is my closest
description of Tebaldi voice which i also find kinda '' single dimensional''enough for NOT to be the leading instrument in my ''dream orchestra'' that is my opinion .
Exactly! I don't get the cruelty and critical nature of the comments I keep finding with videos of really great female opera singers. They are all incredible, but in different ways. I have a favorite, but that doesn't mean all the others suck. Good grief!
Second: It's pretty obvious that anyone who talks about Tebaldi like some people here don't know a thing about italian singing. And, I must say, someone who doesn't know a thing about italian singing doesn't know a thing about opera singing. They invented it, sorry, it's history.
And, as for some people here who seems to prefer Angela Gherghiu, Anna Netrebko or Renée Fleming singing that... well... sorry for them.
Are we talking here about opera or about musical theatre? Maybe you should study some more before calling other people names a lot of people here deserve, but thank God I am too polite to call them.
Why do so many people who obviously don't have a clue of what opera or opera tradition might be insist on commenting jewels like that?
Well, anyway:
First of all, Tebaldi did not sing this aria in italian because she couldn't sing in french. At her time, italian singers sang in italian, french singers sang in french and german singers sang in german. It was tradition, only that.
I mean this in the nicest way possible: you are an imbecile. If Renata Tebaldi was, as you so rudely put it, a "cheap whore" then her memory wouldn't be so treasured at Le Scala. I was there. She was in no way laughable. What is hilarious your stupidity.
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For what is worth: at the first season of the new Met I was hanging around the stage door. Tebaldi (who had just sang Gioconda, the only thing she was singing then, her voice was going) came out La Grande Dame, with an escort of several men and a uniformed maid carrying a miniature poodle. Some twink came to her, and said "Madame Tebaldi, you are singing better than ever!" And she very modestly replied, "Yes, I am."
name: Marta Cornoti di Maskalione age 67...in 1945 her family moved to Argentina from Italy. Her father was an army officer who lost his balls in the war against Greece. Her mother was not so lucky. At the age of 32 Marta became a man, due to anomalous hair growth, and try some roles in porn movies. After a moderate success she retired from stage(change to a woman again)and by adopting the name ''potrosbas''starts a second career as a youtube opera commentator...and there is more..
I was in B. Aires in 1965 when Marta was 25!! my name is
Manuel sol gspichuni Bemol, and i use to sleep with Marta's music teacher miss Doris Williams. Occasionally
Doris would try to sneak girls to our bed..well because she like them...anyway i divorce her the day she brought Marta in...man!!she was like Donald Duck in pantyhose!!!.aii..old stories..hahaha
hay that high note was awful maybe she was sick and what was she thinking with that dress geee and this Aria needs to be beautiful and well she does not do a good job its horrible maybe because she was use to sing the same 10 operas she sing during her 35 year career and plus she sing it in italian not in french....
It is really distressing to find such vulgar and uninformed comments on a site like this. Do something more constructive than nurturing a rivalry between Callas and Tebaldi that was not of their own making. Yes, the clothes and hair seem strange today, but that is a sign of the times. Comment from an old woman who loves both Tebaldi and Callas.
After hearing this one again i have to tell you that my wife sings that one better. The only thing, is if i ask her to dress like this.. she will probably divorce me...by the way..hi potromoufa..how's the nerves?
Cada persona tiene sus gustos, a mi me encanta Callas es mi favorita pero eso no descalifica a las demas cantantes, no podemos ser tan apasionados y obtusos en cerrarnos en respetar el gusto ajeno, todos son magnifico(a)s
amazing singing, period, but I would like to have heard this in french, through that wonderful voice, the ialian translation is at times distracting to the melody.
potrobsas is a hater that only knows how to talk bad about other great singers for him Tebaldi is the best when we know there is other better then tibaldi like MARIA CALLAS but them thats my opinion but we have to read all the rubbish that protomenso here but yes....
mapiakallas: I've been listening to Callas' recordings & watching her videos for 15 years & yet, every single time I do it, I notice a new nuance in her artistry. Her Art is Infinite. Honestly, I just want potrobsas to apologize for his hatred towards black people and not let an anti-yankee mind-set block him from enjoying great singing. I know our country is not the role model of goodness on the Earth, but it's raised several great opera singers and that's a good thing.
response to Giorich and Lungdoc: I agree with you. I am completely new to youtube and I love both these singers. We will never forget either one - de gustibus non disputandem est! Why use this site to continue a constructed rivalry created by journalists in the 1950's and '60's? Greetings from an old lady in Sweden just learning to use the internet!
Please ignore Potrobsas as well as Michaud. Others have pointed out that is probably the same person. He is obsessed with Tebaldi (which is ok I guess..) but has this pathological need to offend other singers and people whith a different taste.
Who asked you an opinion ? You are a miserable bastard, 53 years old american slut.After the many filthy unbearable posts of this ill person (Gspichuni), you don't say anything and you talked about me and michaud1.You are a bastard
Do you think people do not realize you are a bunch of excrement ?You remaind silent after gspichuni inmoral posts.Go screw ! 53 years old puto de mierda
You been insulted by my'' inmoral posts''potromoufa? ?...oh dear...but that's nothing compare to what will happen to you if i( or anybody else that you turn you filthy mouth against)see you.
mariogorga: seguramente usted no ha leído lo que potrobsas escribió anterior. Él es el descortés en aqui. Usted es un coche de lengua, así pues, antes de que usted motive su ignorancia debe leer qué se está encendiendo.
sicuro75: I'm not arguing about Tebaldi because she's also one of my Divas. I cannot keep still reading explicit hatred towards people of Black heritage, never mind those people are icons like Price & Bumbry. Read the comments in Price's La forza video uploaded by kwanyin & you'll see what I'm saying. And I won't yield until I see sincere apologies posted.
Good lord! i see some peaple can't keep their composure very well,you sound like enraged angry mad women at a local bar here who can't control their liquor and language. Is Tebaldi someones mother here or the holy grail in their life. There is life after Tebaldi like taking a vacation and getting Laid.
protoruidosa: your constant vile racist attacks only testify your twisted core. There's always been Great Opera Singers of all ethnicities (caucasian & black) and you should leave your limbo of denial. Suck it up, puke your envy ('cause that can kill you) and act like human by taking back your loathsome words. Probecita, demasiado envidiosa de cantantes negros y sus bellas vozes.
protochica: Well put, too bad you don't practice what you preach unless your knowledge is on how to be a name giver in English. And cursing at Legends like Bumbry is also pretty sensitive ha? You keep barking at everyone LEARN this & that but you have no clue what learning means.
protorata:"idiot maricon" yet another foul assumption on other's sexuality, flat-out low-class. Feminine words might sound better in Spanish right guequito? Go comment on the artists playing across from Casa Rosada, they can either appreciate it or chop your head off for sake of common well-being.
protoputa: Rubbish is what you hold between your ears that drools through your mouth. Funny you bark I don't know what italian opera & tradition are when your homeland hasn't raised any great opera singer nor composer and has no italian tradition whatsoever.
A person may have grown up in a country that has nothing to do with italian tradition but if you learn and have sensitiveness you may have much knowlegde and idea.You are an idiotic 30 years old american whore, just only this
I cannot disrespect this lady- may her soul rest- however, singing just seemed to be very hard for her. Look at the face.... tight, hard, no real release. The top notes here aren't as flat as I've heard. Nice post though.
Oh yes, very hard to sing to one of the greatest sopranos of ever period ! Renata Tebaldi.courtneybaritone01 you only can shut your mouth after looking of list of favorites, Grace Bumbry ! that female dog.Please, learn what opera and great singing is
Beautenor, this protojerk is a poorly scrutable loony and acts like an asshole. He's also got some disgusting racist neonazi attitude towards Great Singers of Black Heritage. He's been demanded to withdraw his disrespect on the Art of Goddesses(e.g.Callas) & Living Legends(e.g.Price) and to appologize to commentators he's been nasty to. He's surely abused this forum and needs to pay for it.
soundfond: What bunch of rubbish you write...(racist neonazi attitude, etc), you are an idiot maricon.You speak of Goddesses and other femenine things but you don't know what italian opera and tradition is.You are very cheap
If this were the early 1950s, she would have gotten away with the Italian here, but, unfortunately, in the 1970s, you have to sing it in the original language, particularly for French and Italian operas. Nevertheless, this is a marvellous performance. It is extremely beautiful and musical.
hehehe...it IS. Tebaldi coudn't sing in French (or anything else other than her NATIVE ITALIAN). That's like Voigt saying, "Oh I only sing in English". Like I always say. tebaldi was great in her prime, bu limited as an artist by her unwillingness to sing in other languages. I know a lot fo singers did it that way in the 50's, but a lot of them DIDN'T, so that's no excuse. Manon in Italian is NOT Manon.
michaud1 this may perhaps be your honest opinion of Callas, but, despite her death some 30 years ago, she is still one of the most popular singers ever. Her recordings are still selling. Obviously, millions of people find her voice to be beautiful, expressive and one of a kind.
Callas did not have a powerful voice and her high notes were ugly. She had a lot of wobbles in her voice. Most of the time she was out of tune. Overated.
ahahah you are funny micha callas and ugly woman ugly tebaldi honey look at her nooo callas did not have and ordinary voice ask anyone in this page or anywere else one you are the stupid one second callas did not have a weak voice third get better imformation...
michaud1 you are such a stupid asshole. Callas was not an ugly woman and she did not have an ordinary voice. She certainly did more in and for opera than the boring, flat singing Tebaldi ever did.
61 years old Denmark whore Duncan456 seems to have Callas as her model of beauty standards, I guess the filthy 61 years old puto does not dare to take off his clothes in front of those young boys he sucks, of course after paying them their charges.A ruined old maricon
And what the HELL is WRONG with YOU? You don't know anything about any of the people you insult, Singers included. Seems to me you have an unhealthy obsession with other people's sexuality. Maybe you're just a big queen yourself. Why don't we see pictures of YOU to see how beautiful YOU really are.
Sad little minded persons. If only masacian would give us the date. The Tebaldi-Coreeli duet tours were around 1971-1973. That makes Tebaldi at least 50 years old singing here. Check your attitudes at hte door and ask if you or anyone else singing today would sound this good at 50. Those were the days when people went to hear singers sing. They didn't care what stupid dress they wore. fashion was so terrible then, everyone looked awful anyway!
The date of this concert is Tokyo , november 21, 1973.The Tebaldi-Corelli tours were december 1972 to june 1974.They gave 23 concerts together around the world in a year and a half.The success was sensational.They went on singing each one till 1976.
The DiStefano tour with Callas was a disgrace, they both gave pity.The greekamerican coloratura soprano was retired as long ago as 1965 and since 1959 her career had flopped at the age of 35
Too sad to hear these insults traded. Both singers devoted their lives to their art and both brought great pleasure to very many. It is the intelligence and sensitivities of these many that are being insulted. I hope some of the above commentators feel better for it.
oh this is so much fun i wonder why mister trash of potro goes crazy we all know Tebaldi will never be as great as Maria Callas The true Divina... but time will tell so far Callas has been number one... the human Dog of Tebaldi just die 2 years ago i believe so lets see were does her poor singing gets her....
You disgusting psychopath - how could anyone be so cruel?? To insult someone who is dead?? I am contacting youtube management and will do everything I can to have you blocked from this site.
i agree with mister Duncan456 she look bad in this video and about the shoes i dont know but she does look like she is forsing herself.... horrible...
Tebaldi seen to be doing a horrible resitative even tho she is in great voice i have hear better then this... i never like her techinque at all... makes her look too simplistic...
Tebaldi retired too late. Read Schuyler Chapin´s book "Sopranos, Mezzos, Tenors, Bassos, and Other Friends". In in he describes how terribly she was singing Desdemona in the early 1970s. Even as early as the mid 1950s one could hear the warning signs: flat, screaming high notes. Maybe if she had taken Chapin´s advice and concentrated on mezzo roles she could have prolonged her career a year or two. Anyway I love her campy hairdo!
What do you know zinka101 of voices and singing.A 21 years old ignorant baby.I don't want to think your nick "Zinka" is in honor to Zinka Milanov.Renata Tebaldi possessed one of the greatest and most PERFECT soprano voices of the last century and she retired in fine voice and in grand style
Milanov had a good voice but NOT an extraordinary instrument like Tebaldi's.And as a singer if one had to compare them, Milanov would seem a female dog.The croata soprano screamed all her career and she sang mostly out of tone,Milanov high notes were thin and shouted and she had no taste.
The Great Tebaldi retired in a LaScala concert in 1976 in FINE voice.There is a tape of the performance and all she did in the '70s was wonderful.She had enormous success on '72 Met Falstaff, her '73 Desdemonas are very good, her album Duets with Corelli is sensational, she sings Amneris and she is in great voice !Great power and stamina, she sings two glorious Bflats, '73 18th Century arias album is a delight
Tebaldi fortissimo B natural are the greatest.Here in this website, the '57 Andrea Chenier with Tucker, and on '58 Naples Forza, Tebaldi series of B natural are awesome, huge, firm and ravishingly beautiful Bs.Also her incredible Cs on any Tosca (for example her '61 Tokyo performance, etc)
She never sang a complete operatic role in any other language other than Italian. Tebaldi attempted a few songs in English or Spanish but that was as far as she went.
Tebaldi debuted in 1944 and two years later (1946) she was LaScala biggest star.Since 1955 she became Met biggest star and enjoyed a 32 years of superstar career till 1976 becoming one of the leading sopranos of the last century.
This clip shows Tebaldi supreme artistry, she sings with much soul and late in her glorious and long career her voice remained very well fitted thanks to her solid technique.She is in lovely voice on this november 21, 1973 Tokyo concert.
O really like the cocoon hair, reminds me of princess Lea
RonaldBarone 3 weeks ago
I came hear to hear Tebaldi, not an ovation for the king of lisps.
VinylToVideo 9 months ago
amazing, touching!!!!!!!!!!!!!
olbel 9 months ago
If you like Britney why are you listening to Tebaldi? Contrary to your comment...Ignorant people do not usually listen to Tebaldi, and really how many people will remember "Gimme More, " and Britney twenty or thirty years from now? Apparently, people are still listening to Tebaldi thirty years later! However, you are entitled to your own opinion.
meekosara 1 year ago
get off the stage, Mr. Corelli!
wattever333 1 year ago
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Britney Spears is much better than Tebaldi or Callas....ignorants. They wouldn't have been able to sing Gimme More, EVER!!
Leave Britney alone!!
dioioego 1 year ago
To me, this sounds very beautiful! Tebaldi shows still a pure and beautiful voice, and her style and interpretation are exquisite
magicflute3 3 years ago 3
dammit franco stop bowing and sing!
raythetse 3 years ago 4
brava tebaldi
kikoencasa 3 years ago 2
Bravo Yetelski! Well said. What many seem to forget is that almost every singer on here was outstanding in one way or another. They are the "Cream of the Crop." The concept of "best" is purely a matter of personal taste. Every great singer has always had their detractors and also, ever since the early days of opera, fans have wanted to pit one singer against another. Listen to what you like; don't listen to what you dont like.
meinfb 3 years ago 4
why is she singing it in Italian?!
ravenboytx 3 years ago
perché non potevo parlare francese. scusimi.
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another maria callas
oprah22 4 years ago
ola the children, you will not start again the match tebaldi-callas? no form of intêret. each one had its repertory where it shone and each one was bad in another...
marioj34 4 years ago 3
hard hard the comments... I would like that all the current singers have the same line of song. Let us not forget that Tebaldi is here at the end of the career....
marioj34 4 years ago
Seems to me like most people who post comments here are frustrated, embittered, sad queens who'd just LOVE to have at least some sort of career. Making nasty remarks about others hopefully makes them feel better about themselves. Tebaldi at this stage of her career was not about beautiful or perfect singing. Just as Callas at the end of her career was a sad display of a voice in ruins. Enjoy what these artists did in their prime, and if you don't like them, spare us your nasty comments!
Yeletski 4 years ago 8
@Yeletski Gosh! Well said you.
pianomags 1 year ago
Potrodsas: ¡Qué grosero y qué pesado eres!
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She looks like a frog, and she is got the voice to match .
potrodsas 4 years ago
so why are you watching?
operalover9001 3 years ago
Tebaldi was lovely in her own set of roles: Mimi, Manon, Butterfly, Leonora, Tosca, Santuzza, Adriana... To hear these Tebaldi is definitely your best bet.
Elisabetta611 4 years ago
Stome, that's ridiculous. Callas sang ravishing Ds and Es, check out the AIDA were she interpolated an E flat in the triumphal march! Don't spread nonsense that can be proven false by recordings, ok?
Elisabetta611 4 years ago
and the pink dress ...EVEN MORE DISTURBING!!!
potrodsas 4 years ago
She had a lot of trademark FAULTS on her DISTURBING AND UNPOLISHED metallic voice (no tone, NO BEAUTY, no control....and more).
NOT MENTION HER DISASTROUS AND FRAYED
"COLORATURA" = CRACKED, UNSTEADY and WEAK HIGH NOTES.
She is SCREAMING horribly singing her arias. No control, no tone, NO VOICE.
VOICE OUT OF TUNE - VOCE TERRIBILE
potrodsas 4 years ago
Potrodsas, quit using multiple IDs to talk to yourself.
Elisabetta611 4 years ago
the woman is OFF TUNE on high notes...what are you DEAF ppl?!?!?!?!?!?! VIVA LA CALLAS!
papaki88 4 years ago
monteaventino-ok, we have understood that you dont like callas. give a break to the others who love her. You will not tell us which people we can admire!!isn't it???? you can express your opinion but you cannot insult such a huge personality like MARIA CALLAS !!!
halloopera 4 years ago
Callas' voice wasn't beautifully tamed. NO tone, NO good coloratura, NO control over her metallic voice, bad technique for her frayed, clumsy and weak coloratura.
As an opera actress she wast one of the best, but sometimes she was overacting. Her drama on her voice was remarcable, but her unpolished voice wasn't the best.
gspichuni2 4 years ago
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Her voice has really really gone down.
She missed a lot of notes and was off tune most of it, and she is screaming horribly too.
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...a genius? with a cracked voice with unsteady, weak and frayed coloratura? you are dreaming lol!
potrodsas 4 years ago
....Callas had a cracked voice with unsteady, weak and frayed coloratura.". It's a BIG TRUTH. Nothing more to say for her passionnés gays.
Callas had LOT OF FAMOUS TRADEMARK FAULTS ON HER VOICE!!!. Voce orribile.
monteaventtino 4 years ago
Oh monteaventtino, how I enjoy your postings...it isn't often that one is able to find someone who is as big a blithering dumbass as you. So please, keep snorting or injecting yourself with whatever you're on, because I can hardly wait for your next posting.
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I wrote these commentaries for the horrible voice of Maria Callas. potrodsas or maxhansendk an old gay and crazy fanatic of the primma donna with cracked voice (the ugly Callas) is distorting my commentaries:
"Callas voice has really really gone down (O Mio Babbino Caro - London - 1975-77?)
Callas missed a lot of notes and was off tune most of it, and she is screaming horribly too.
monteaventtino 4 years ago
WAAAAAOoooooooo
AndresMozart 4 years ago
Missis Tebaldi was great. Her singing was great and warm.
flieflodderke 4 years ago
she rocks here....a bit....
figaronight6 4 years ago
Tebaldi's voice is no good to me.. her timbre is:
dry, tinny, insecure, shallow, common, uncolored, neutral.
Her musicianship is comical: always late on time, wrong dynamics ,away from musical mood. As for musical phrasing??she does not know what that it is.. And an
ocean more, diction, acting blah blah.
gspichuni 4 years ago
Gspichuni, with all due respect, Tebaldi's voice is not dry, tinny, insecure, or shallow. It is not common. It is divine. And, one can't attack her musicianship: no, she wasn't moving in Maria's manner, but she was thrilling, & the electricity in a Tebaldi Butterfly or a Tebaldi Tosca is something out of this world.
Her phrasing is actually quite perfect too, and she was, for the most part, very true to the score.
VivaMariaCallas 4 years ago
VivaMariaCallas. To my understanding we are obliged to you use words who look unrelated to the subject when speaking about voices.
For instance nobody can find a voice ''heavy''..but we do and this is the nearest thing we can offer.
Therefore the''dry tinny shallow''is my closest
description of Tebaldi voice which i also find kinda '' single dimensional''enough for NOT to be the leading instrument in my ''dream orchestra'' that is my opinion .
gspichuni 4 years ago
To favor the voice of Tebaldi over Callas's is like we want to say that a flute is more interesting than a cello! ..That's how i see it.
And even though there is nothing wrong with the little flute its limitations are obvious compare to
those of the strings
gspichuni 4 years ago 2
Exactly! I don't get the cruelty and critical nature of the comments I keep finding with videos of really great female opera singers. They are all incredible, but in different ways. I have a favorite, but that doesn't mean all the others suck. Good grief!
cyn3100 4 years ago
Second: It's pretty obvious that anyone who talks about Tebaldi like some people here don't know a thing about italian singing. And, I must say, someone who doesn't know a thing about italian singing doesn't know a thing about opera singing. They invented it, sorry, it's history.
And, as for some people here who seems to prefer Angela Gherghiu, Anna Netrebko or Renée Fleming singing that... well... sorry for them.
eugeneonegin 4 years ago
musical theater is at least 2600 years old you moron
gspichuni 4 years ago
Are we talking here about opera or about musical theatre? Maybe you should study some more before calling other people names a lot of people here deserve, but thank God I am too polite to call them.
eugeneonegin 4 years ago
Why do so many people who obviously don't have a clue of what opera or opera tradition might be insist on commenting jewels like that?
Well, anyway:
First of all, Tebaldi did not sing this aria in italian because she couldn't sing in french. At her time, italian singers sang in italian, french singers sang in french and german singers sang in german. It was tradition, only that.
eugeneonegin 4 years ago
I think she looks like a cheap whore ,her ''singing''is laughable ,and all those idiots who say they like her are faggots or lunatics . Thank you.
suxmdbab 4 years ago
I mean this in the nicest way possible: you are an imbecile. If Renata Tebaldi was, as you so rudely put it, a "cheap whore" then her memory wouldn't be so treasured at Le Scala. I was there. She was in no way laughable. What is hilarious your stupidity.
ElliePearl 4 years ago
This last note was directed at "suxmdbab" eight posts ago.
ElliePearl 4 years ago
You are a moron and an imbecile - please take your toys and go play on some railway tracks. You will make a lot of people happy if you do.
Ruxton 4 years ago
rocks..she is yes. And not only that but we all looking
forward for some singing as well.!!
gspichuni 4 years ago
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For what is worth: at the first season of the new Met I was hanging around the stage door. Tebaldi (who had just sang Gioconda, the only thing she was singing then, her voice was going) came out La Grande Dame, with an escort of several men and a uniformed maid carrying a miniature poodle. Some twink came to her, and said "Madame Tebaldi, you are singing better than ever!" And she very modestly replied, "Yes, I am."
gspichuni 4 years ago
she can afford it! she rocks :)
ElviraVonNosferatus 4 years ago
I like it better in frans!
Rossalita 4 years ago
What the hell is this? Special Olympics version of opera?
Laeliapurpurata 4 years ago
Mars Attack LOL
macmusikpro 4 years ago
lol and being counterattacked ...muhahahahaa
gspichuni 4 years ago
EVVIVA LA TEBALDI!
segu82 4 years ago
Who is this foul mouthed Protobsas?
macmusikpro 4 years ago
name: Marta Cornoti di Maskalione age 67...in 1945 her family moved to Argentina from Italy. Her father was an army officer who lost his balls in the war against Greece. Her mother was not so lucky. At the age of 32 Marta became a man, due to anomalous hair growth, and try some roles in porn movies. After a moderate success she retired from stage(change to a woman again)and by adopting the name ''potrosbas''starts a second career as a youtube opera commentator...and there is more..
gspichuni 4 years ago
I was in B. Aires in 1965 when Marta was 25!! my name is
Manuel sol gspichuni Bemol, and i use to sleep with Marta's music teacher miss Doris Williams. Occasionally
Doris would try to sneak girls to our bed..well because she like them...anyway i divorce her the day she brought Marta in...man!!she was like Donald Duck in pantyhose!!!.aii..old stories..hahaha
gspichuni 4 years ago
Dang!! Whew!! that was a nice script! LOL :D
macmusikpro 4 years ago
She's absolutely amazing.
NHK1111111111 4 years ago
hay that high note was awful maybe she was sick and what was she thinking with that dress geee and this Aria needs to be beautiful and well she does not do a good job its horrible maybe because she was use to sing the same 10 operas she sing during her 35 year career and plus she sing it in italian not in french....
MAPIAKALLAS 4 years ago
i have to agree she was very boring and every time she is
singing
i am sleeping...and only when she is screaming(so often) ..oh..God!..nightmare!!
gspichuni 4 years ago
It is really distressing to find such vulgar and uninformed comments on a site like this. Do something more constructive than nurturing a rivalry between Callas and Tebaldi that was not of their own making. Yes, the clothes and hair seem strange today, but that is a sign of the times. Comment from an old woman who loves both Tebaldi and Callas.
VivaRenata 4 years ago
How can anyone take that face seriously... she's just cracks me up no matter what does on stage.
Laeliapurpurata 4 years ago
After hearing this one again i have to tell you that my wife sings that one better. The only thing, is if i ask her to dress like this.. she will probably divorce me...by the way..hi potromoufa..how's the nerves?
gspichuni 4 years ago
that's the worst performance of this strange looking singer(with the mouse voice) i have ever seen.
gspichuni 4 years ago
Cada persona tiene sus gustos, a mi me encanta Callas es mi favorita pero eso no descalifica a las demas cantantes, no podemos ser tan apasionados y obtusos en cerrarnos en respetar el gusto ajeno, todos son magnifico(a)s
gonzalojosevb 4 years ago
what did corelli sing before she came on and do you have his performance
aspsingr 4 years ago
amazing singing, period, but I would like to have heard this in french, through that wonderful voice, the ialian translation is at times distracting to the melody.
donraul1979 4 years ago
I am so sick and tired of reading potrobsas comments... How hateful is it possible to get? I haven't read anything nice from this person yet.
Turand0t 4 years ago
Well those who cant sing talk about others. Its just ignorance.
DIVOTENOR 4 years ago
potrobsas is a hater that only knows how to talk bad about other great singers for him Tebaldi is the best when we know there is other better then tibaldi like MARIA CALLAS but them thats my opinion but we have to read all the rubbish that protomenso here but yes....
MAPIAKALLAS 4 years ago
mapiakallas: I've been listening to Callas' recordings & watching her videos for 15 years & yet, every single time I do it, I notice a new nuance in her artistry. Her Art is Infinite. Honestly, I just want potrobsas to apologize for his hatred towards black people and not let an anti-yankee mind-set block him from enjoying great singing. I know our country is not the role model of goodness on the Earth, but it's raised several great opera singers and that's a good thing.
soundfond 4 years ago
Again Callas wasn't better singer, she was different, my god when are we going to end this
giorich 4 years ago
response to Giorich and Lungdoc: I agree with you. I am completely new to youtube and I love both these singers. We will never forget either one - de gustibus non disputandem est! Why use this site to continue a constructed rivalry created by journalists in the 1950's and '60's? Greetings from an old lady in Sweden just learning to use the internet!
VivaRenata 4 years ago
Please ignore Potrobsas as well as Michaud. Others have pointed out that is probably the same person. He is obsessed with Tebaldi (which is ok I guess..) but has this pathological need to offend other singers and people whith a different taste.
lungdoc 4 years ago
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Who asked you an opinion ? You are a miserable bastard, 53 years old american slut.After the many filthy unbearable posts of this ill person (Gspichuni), you don't say anything and you talked about me and michaud1.You are a bastard
potrobsas 4 years ago
Your message just proves my point.
lungdoc 4 years ago
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Do you think people do not realize you are a bunch of excrement ?You remaind silent after gspichuni inmoral posts.Go screw ! 53 years old puto de mierda
potrobsas 4 years ago
You been insulted by my'' inmoral posts''potromoufa? ?...oh dear...but that's nothing compare to what will happen to you if i( or anybody else that you turn you filthy mouth against)see you.
gspichuni 4 years ago
YOU ARE TERRIBLY VOLGAR
mamannaggia 4 years ago
tell us of your childhood potroloon..will try to help you.
gspichuni 4 years ago
mariogorga: seguramente usted no ha leído lo que potrobsas escribió anterior. Él es el descortés en aqui. Usted es un coche de lengua, así pues, antes de que usted motive su ignorancia debe leer qué se está encendiendo.
soundfond 4 years ago
sicuro75: I'm not arguing about Tebaldi because she's also one of my Divas. I cannot keep still reading explicit hatred towards people of Black heritage, never mind those people are icons like Price & Bumbry. Read the comments in Price's La forza video uploaded by kwanyin & you'll see what I'm saying. And I won't yield until I see sincere apologies posted.
soundfond 4 years ago
Good lord! i see some peaple can't keep their composure very well,you sound like enraged angry mad women at a local bar here who can't control their liquor and language. Is Tebaldi someones mother here or the holy grail in their life. There is life after Tebaldi like taking a vacation and getting Laid.
sicuro75 4 years ago
protoruidosa: your constant vile racist attacks only testify your twisted core. There's always been Great Opera Singers of all ethnicities (caucasian & black) and you should leave your limbo of denial. Suck it up, puke your envy ('cause that can kill you) and act like human by taking back your loathsome words. Probecita, demasiado envidiosa de cantantes negros y sus bellas vozes.
soundfond 5 years ago
protochica: Well put, too bad you don't practice what you preach unless your knowledge is on how to be a name giver in English. And cursing at Legends like Bumbry is also pretty sensitive ha? You keep barking at everyone LEARN this & that but you have no clue what learning means.
soundfond 5 years ago
protorata:"idiot maricon" yet another foul assumption on other's sexuality, flat-out low-class. Feminine words might sound better in Spanish right guequito? Go comment on the artists playing across from Casa Rosada, they can either appreciate it or chop your head off for sake of common well-being.
soundfond 5 years ago
protoputa: Rubbish is what you hold between your ears that drools through your mouth. Funny you bark I don't know what italian opera & tradition are when your homeland hasn't raised any great opera singer nor composer and has no italian tradition whatsoever.
soundfond 5 years ago
A person may have grown up in a country that has nothing to do with italian tradition but if you learn and have sensitiveness you may have much knowlegde and idea.You are an idiotic 30 years old american whore, just only this
potrobsas 5 years ago
Senor potrobas un poco de respecto y menos kilombos,dejalos as estos mal educados,ni corte les des.
mariogorga 4 years ago
I cannot disrespect this lady- may her soul rest- however, singing just seemed to be very hard for her. Look at the face.... tight, hard, no real release. The top notes here aren't as flat as I've heard. Nice post though.
courtneybaritone01 5 years ago
Oh yes, very hard to sing to one of the greatest sopranos of ever period ! Renata Tebaldi.courtneybaritone01 you only can shut your mouth after looking of list of favorites, Grace Bumbry ! that female dog.Please, learn what opera and great singing is
potrobsas 5 years ago
its called espression
giorich 4 years ago
Beautenor, this protojerk is a poorly scrutable loony and acts like an asshole. He's also got some disgusting racist neonazi attitude towards Great Singers of Black Heritage. He's been demanded to withdraw his disrespect on the Art of Goddesses(e.g.Callas) & Living Legends(e.g.Price) and to appologize to commentators he's been nasty to. He's surely abused this forum and needs to pay for it.
soundfond 5 years ago
soundfond: What bunch of rubbish you write...(racist neonazi attitude, etc), you are an idiot maricon.You speak of Goddesses and other femenine things but you don't know what italian opera and tradition is.You are very cheap
potrobsas 5 years ago
If this were the early 1950s, she would have gotten away with the Italian here, but, unfortunately, in the 1970s, you have to sing it in the original language, particularly for French and Italian operas. Nevertheless, this is a marvellous performance. It is extremely beautiful and musical.
VivaCallas 5 years ago
Did someone say wow where did they find this clip? It had to have been found in Harvey Firesteins dressing room.
sicuro75 5 years ago
I thought this was a French aria.
blktenor 5 years ago
hehehe...it IS. Tebaldi coudn't sing in French (or anything else other than her NATIVE ITALIAN). That's like Voigt saying, "Oh I only sing in English". Like I always say. tebaldi was great in her prime, bu limited as an artist by her unwillingness to sing in other languages. I know a lot fo singers did it that way in the 50's, but a lot of them DIDN'T, so that's no excuse. Manon in Italian is NOT Manon.
BeauTenor 5 years ago
When Callas started to sing she did not have much of voice, and it was the same when stop. It was a mediocre voice and very nasale.
michaud1 5 years ago
michaud1 this may perhaps be your honest opinion of Callas, but, despite her death some 30 years ago, she is still one of the most popular singers ever. Her recordings are still selling. Obviously, millions of people find her voice to be beautiful, expressive and one of a kind.
Duncan456 5 years ago
you havent a clue what you are talking about
Ruxton 5 years ago
Callas did not have a powerful voice and her high notes were ugly. She had a lot of wobbles in her voice. Most of the time she was out of tune. Overated.
michaud1 5 years ago
ahahah you are funny micha callas and ugly woman ugly tebaldi honey look at her nooo callas did not have and ordinary voice ask anyone in this page or anywere else one you are the stupid one second callas did not have a weak voice third get better imformation...
MAPIAKALLAS 5 years ago
MARIAKALLAS - you are very stupid - Callas was an ugly woman with very ordinary voice. She was also overated. Her voice weak and she had no control.
Get a life.
michaud1 5 years ago
michaud1 you are such a stupid asshole. Callas was not an ugly woman and she did not have an ordinary voice. She certainly did more in and for opera than the boring, flat singing Tebaldi ever did.
Duncan456 5 years ago
61 years old Denmark whore Duncan456 seems to have Callas as her model of beauty standards, I guess the filthy 61 years old puto does not dare to take off his clothes in front of those young boys he sucks, of course after paying them their charges.A ruined old maricon
potrobsas 5 years ago
You sick idiot. Your fantasies reveal a lot about your depraved person.
Duncan456 5 years ago
And what the HELL is WRONG with YOU? You don't know anything about any of the people you insult, Singers included. Seems to me you have an unhealthy obsession with other people's sexuality. Maybe you're just a big queen yourself. Why don't we see pictures of YOU to see how beautiful YOU really are.
BeauTenor 5 years ago
Good lord no! you don't want to see those photos. They probably do Tebaldi in Drags and lipsynch in mirror.
sicuro75 5 years ago
Sad little minded persons. If only masacian would give us the date. The Tebaldi-Coreeli duet tours were around 1971-1973. That makes Tebaldi at least 50 years old singing here. Check your attitudes at hte door and ask if you or anyone else singing today would sound this good at 50. Those were the days when people went to hear singers sing. They didn't care what stupid dress they wore. fashion was so terrible then, everyone looked awful anyway!
marchesano 5 years ago
The date of this concert is Tokyo , november 21, 1973.The Tebaldi-Corelli tours were december 1972 to june 1974.They gave 23 concerts together around the world in a year and a half.The success was sensational.They went on singing each one till 1976.
potrobsas 5 years ago
Tebaldi debuted in 1944, Corelli debuted in 1951, both retired in 1976.
potrobsas 5 years ago
THE DI STEFANO tOUR WITH CALLAS WAS MUCH MUCH MORE INTERESTING AND LIVELY
fabriou 5 years ago
The DiStefano tour with Callas was a disgrace, they both gave pity.The greekamerican coloratura soprano was retired as long ago as 1965 and since 1959 her career had flopped at the age of 35
potrobsas 5 years ago
Too sad to hear these insults traded. Both singers devoted their lives to their art and both brought great pleasure to very many. It is the intelligence and sensitivities of these many that are being insulted. I hope some of the above commentators feel better for it.
Glenmed 5 years ago
GREAT TEBALDI!
fabriou 5 years ago
oh this is so much fun i wonder why mister trash of potro goes crazy we all know Tebaldi will never be as great as Maria Callas The true Divina... but time will tell so far Callas has been number one... the human Dog of Tebaldi just die 2 years ago i believe so lets see were does her poor singing gets her....
MAPIAKALLAS 5 years ago
You disgusting psychopath - how could anyone be so cruel?? To insult someone who is dead?? I am contacting youtube management and will do everything I can to have you blocked from this site.
Zerlin735 5 years ago
Silly ass.
Duncan456 5 years ago
i agree with mister Duncan456 she look bad in this video and about the shoes i dont know but she does look like she is forsing herself.... horrible...
MAPIAKALLAS 5 years ago
cocksucker, you can only agree or disagree with Mister Duncan56 about cocks size with your ridiculous nick MAPIAKALLAS.
potrobsas 5 years ago
potrobsas, you are a disgusting person.
Duncan456 5 years ago
She looks like a drag queen and sings as if her shoes were too tight.
Duncan456 5 years ago
How does a 61 years old denmark whore look ? Send us one of your pics Duncan456
potrobsas 5 years ago
"How does a 61 years old denmark whore look ?" LIKE YOUR MOTHER.
Duncan456 5 years ago
Tebaldi seen to be doing a horrible resitative even tho she is in great voice i have hear better then this... i never like her techinque at all... makes her look too simplistic...
MAPIAKALLAS 5 years ago
So then listen to Callas and shut the fuck up.
Zerlin735 5 years ago
Tebaldi retired too late. Read Schuyler Chapin´s book "Sopranos, Mezzos, Tenors, Bassos, and Other Friends". In in he describes how terribly she was singing Desdemona in the early 1970s. Even as early as the mid 1950s one could hear the warning signs: flat, screaming high notes. Maybe if she had taken Chapin´s advice and concentrated on mezzo roles she could have prolonged her career a year or two. Anyway I love her campy hairdo!
zinka101 5 years ago
What do you know zinka101 of voices and singing.A 21 years old ignorant baby.I don't want to think your nick "Zinka" is in honor to Zinka Milanov.Renata Tebaldi possessed one of the greatest and most PERFECT soprano voices of the last century and she retired in fine voice and in grand style
potrobsas 5 years ago
Ha, ha, ha,ha!
zinka101 5 years ago
Milanov had a good voice but NOT an extraordinary instrument like Tebaldi's.And as a singer if one had to compare them, Milanov would seem a female dog.The croata soprano screamed all her career and she sang mostly out of tone,Milanov high notes were thin and shouted and she had no taste.
potrobsas 5 years ago
The Great Tebaldi retired in a LaScala concert in 1976 in FINE voice.There is a tape of the performance and all she did in the '70s was wonderful.She had enormous success on '72 Met Falstaff, her '73 Desdemonas are very good, her album Duets with Corelli is sensational, she sings Amneris and she is in great voice !Great power and stamina, she sings two glorious Bflats, '73 18th Century arias album is a delight
potrobsas 5 years ago
yeah. B FLATS. Anything above that was iffy.
BeauTenor 5 years ago
Tebaldi fortissimo B natural are the greatest.Here in this website, the '57 Andrea Chenier with Tucker, and on '58 Naples Forza, Tebaldi series of B natural are awesome, huge, firm and ravishingly beautiful Bs.Also her incredible Cs on any Tosca (for example her '61 Tokyo performance, etc)
potrobsas 5 years ago
I think you should retire from life- useless piece of scum.
Zerlin735 5 years ago
That was intended for Zinka 101. I'm sorry you chose to use her name, as she would never have spoken so disrespectfully about Tebaldi.
Zerlin735 5 years ago
why is she singing in italian?
philaguy76 5 years ago
She never sang a complete operatic role in any other language other than Italian. Tebaldi attempted a few songs in English or Spanish but that was as far as she went.
lungdoc 4 years ago
Her voice have so much warmth. Late but still great.
The aria suits her. Beautiful singing.
michaud1 5 years ago
Yes, we need more from this concert. Tebaldi retired too early.
What a performance of this aria.
profgv 5 years ago
Tebaldi debuted in 1944 and two years later (1946) she was LaScala biggest star.Since 1955 she became Met biggest star and enjoyed a 32 years of superstar career till 1976 becoming one of the leading sopranos of the last century.
potrobsas 5 years ago
Late in her career but the soft passages still have her characteristic warmth.
Orfeus80 5 years ago
This clip shows Tebaldi supreme artistry, she sings with much soul and late in her glorious and long career her voice remained very well fitted thanks to her solid technique.She is in lovely voice on this november 21, 1973 Tokyo concert.
potrobsas 5 years ago
Wow, where did you find this clip? Amazing. great stuff. Do you have any more from this concert?
mrrk 5 years ago