Zed: Is that what this video is about? Poor Zed, hard to stay on topic. Why would you or anybody support a complete fraud? There is nothing to suggest that truth or honesty has ever played a part in her past or currently. Answer that question if you can focus. If you can't do it ....just say so.
" The concept of who is on a panel platform is a silly idea". This women is a complete moron of the highest order. She is trained in landscape design and that qualifies her for anything in her mind and those of the Iranians.
AgouraMo; If you want to judge people by their background look at the terrorist background of the founders of Israel! Why don't you do that? Is that too close for comfort?
Lady Renouf is an incredible fraud. Just Google her. There is nothing in her background to suggest that "Honesty" has ever been a component of her character. Therefore, she is loved by Neo Nazis, KKK, White Supremacists and now some Islamic journalists.
AgouraMo; If you want to judge people by their background look at the terrorist background of the founders of Israel! Why don't you do that? Is that too close for comfort?
Do I think 6M really died ? I am in no position to know. I'm more concerned about the monopolization of the word "holocaust". Putting a Jewish face on victimhood. The mass deportations to certain death at Soviet gulags went on longer and victimized far more human beings - the idea was the brainchild of "Stalin's Jews". Finkelstein is right - Holocaust museums are a public relations stunt that enables mass murderers to hide behind victims.
@4449911 Islam is a death-cult created by a child-fucking psychopath named mo-ham-head. Everywhere in the world where Islam is in the majority it has brought backwardness, bigotry, oppression, destruction and tremendous suffering.
Islam teaches hate, it orders the killing or subjugation of non-Muslims, it denigrates women and it violates human rights. I piss into the dead, empty skull of your pedophile prophet and wipe my ass on pages ripped out of the koran.
AgouraMo ; I don't judge what people say based on who they are. Even If you say something interesting and intelligent I will listen to what you say even though I know what kind of person you are!
AgouraMo; If you want to judge people by their background look at the terrorist background of the founders of Israel! Why don't you do that? Is that too close for comfort?
Zedyahood: "People outside the USA" that is funny. Tell me about the rights of women and gays in Iran? Also, let me know who elected you as representative of the world? You are very funny.
AgouraMo you are trying desperate measures again which shows you are frustrated!
In Europe there are so many Holocaust deniers that they had to make it a crime to silent the people! In Asia you can hardly find anyone who believes in Holocaust! If there was a Holocaust it would be the massacre of 16 million Chinese civilians or the firebombing of Tokyo or the massacre of 5 million Vietnamese by the USA! If you are looking for a real Holocaust look for it in Asia.
ZedYahood: this guy is a moderator. The video title states "conference" not guest interviews. You are really desperate to slant anything. Well, I guess that is all you can do if you are very limited.
AgouraMo; the conference was in Tehran and this is an interview (via satellite and telephone links) after the conference. As you can see (that is if you watch!) Finkelstein says he did not attend the conference! How could he be in a debate in the conference if he did not attend it? Use your head!
It sounds like you have a marketing complaint. Who is stopping other groups from having memorials? You want censorship. All events must be equally displayed in all venues? Oh yes, some Germans helped jews and that has been documented etc. The Jews who served in the Nazi party had little choice. Herman Goring : " I decide who is Jewish and who is Aryan". Jews(very few)going to Palestine occurred much earlier before an all out assault on Jews. Your being disingenuous..
Lady Renouf whose father was a cab driver is a trained in landscape design. She was married to Sir Frank Renouf 20 yrs. her senior who later described the marriage as a "nasty accident". She was previously married to Daniel Griaznoff (a decendent of Russian nobility) and she referred to herself at the time as Countess Renouf. She is a full blown anti Semitic and has stated that "anti Semitism is caused by the anti-gentile nature of Judaism". Renouf is clearly a racist gold bricker.
LOL i wish any of you idiots spoke portuguese, your boy did a horrible job of telling the story he experienced during the holocaust, in fact he told it three different ways and you can imagine how that was treated in the non-zionist-dominated press. I've nothing personal against Jews, but 6 million and you can't even get the agents telling the same silly story straight? Come off it. Stalin killed four times more Slavs anyway. Is their blood not as important?
byron: you miss the point. NO group of people have a monopoly on pain and suffering. The issue with the "Holocaust" is that an entire culture of people were specifically targeted for extinction for no other reason than being different. It is not numbers or methods of killing.
You mean an entire group of people minus the thousands of Jews who were helped by the SS to emigrate illegally to Palestine and the other 150,000 who served in the Wehrmacht right? And if no group of people has a monopoly on suffering where are the Armenian and Ukranian and Hutu memorials all over this country? And why aren't there movies and news articles coming out every other day about these groups who were targeted for extinction? And why is it illegal in Europe to question the Holocaust?
AgouraMo; you said an entire culture of people were specifically targeted for extinction for no other reason than being different.
That is not true, the only reason Hitler did not like the Jews was because Jews betrayed Germany during and after WW! and actually sided with British and French. Don't give wrong information, we live in 21st century and we all have access to internet and information is only a click away!
AgouraMo; this Nazi Nazi game doesn't work outside the USA! People of the world have far better understanding of WWII and Nazis than the Hollywood Brainwashed people of the USA.
Canadians make a hobby of trying to figure out what went wrong with the US-Americans ... who might not .... have maps ...
They're a captive media market for Imperial Press Barons ... which are probably war-hawks in disguise ... and the imaginations of commoners have been abused. Nazi Germany demonstrates what happens when myth replaces history ... but then again, the guiding myths of Nazi secret societies were deliberately based on the Anglo-American model to achieve intellectual apartheid.
Finkelstein never disappoints - I'll take his word over anyone at the Tehran Conference. If the Committee of Five does not try to make their conference a serious attempt at truth : all the best facts are information and some of the facts is indoctrination. Besides, what Finkelstein needs is coincidentally the only way for such a Conference to shake the "hate" label.
Finkelstein is not a revisionist and does not question the Holocaust; he actually says that his parents were the victims of the Holocaust although they actually did not die in Holocaust. Finkelstein only agrees that Holocaust has been abused by Israel to take political advantages and milk the world. Finkelstein ignores and dismisses all the hard evidences that revisionists present to debunk the Holocaust myth but calls himself a scholar. That is not a scholarly approach.
I never said Finkelstein was a revisionist, nor have I ever thought he was a Holocaust denier. He says 6M died to the same crowds that cheer his honest accounting of Zionist public relations. The 6M opinion is not really relevant (is it ?) Finkelstein is making measurements ... which draw the applause of revisionists ... not his premises or his conclusions about the data he lays out. I choose to see the Finkelstein glass as half full.
Wow! A good looking apologist for the nazis! Quoting a revisionist historian provides no 'proof' of anything. She's embarrassing. If the Zionists are so clever as to take over the whoel western world government system, maybe we should be backing them all the way! The holocaust happened. WHo knows if it was 6 million Jews or 'only' 1 million. It remains the only such genocide EVER where a country engineered a system for mass murdering people.
If it was 1 million that died, rather than the 6 million claimed, it makes no difference to you? How embarrassing.
Ernst Zundel has just been sentenced to 5 years for his research, why not have an open and honest debate on TV so everyone can reach their own conclusions? Why imprison someone just because you can't hack their research and arguments?
If one person was murdered it was too much. That's the point. I reckon you should be embarrassed. Please engage your brain next time.
I don't know of Ernst Zundel except that he is a lover of Hitler. He should be able to say what he wants. But if he is inciting hatred (of any group), it becomes a problem. Maybe, on that basis, his jailing is reasonable rather than just because he's a Nazi lover.
I'm not at all embarrassed about having an enquiring mind, I'm also not embarrassed about listening to what other people have to say and learning from it. I can't accept Finkelstein's stunted beliefs which start at a point he determines and beyond which he isn't able to debate. Stock answers recited parrot fashion are the defence of the weak, who then need to make laws against thought, speech and enquiry which might expose that weakness.
I find it too to be an uncomfortable and contradictive irony how finkelstein advocates free speech yet is absolutely adamant about his/the "BOTTOM LINE"
public officials can incite hatred even indirectly, just look at bush admin. so then where can the line be drawn...it is a known unfortunate fact, that moral upperhand is where the power just happens to currently be!
How many of Israel's founders were "terrorists" ?
That's an interesting number ...
4449911 2 years ago
Zed: Is that what this video is about? Poor Zed, hard to stay on topic. Why would you or anybody support a complete fraud? There is nothing to suggest that truth or honesty has ever played a part in her past or currently. Answer that question if you can focus. If you can't do it ....just say so.
AgouraMo 2 years ago
" The concept of who is on a panel platform is a silly idea". This women is a complete moron of the highest order. She is trained in landscape design and that qualifies her for anything in her mind and those of the Iranians.
AgouraMo 2 years ago
She is not a Lady(cab driver's daughter) and she quotes from an Ex-professor whose school denounced him. This is really comic relief.
AgouraMo 2 years ago
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AgouraMo; If you want to judge people by their background look at the terrorist background of the founders of Israel! Why don't you do that? Is that too close for comfort?
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
Lady Renouf is an incredible fraud. Just Google her. There is nothing in her background to suggest that "Honesty" has ever been a component of her character. Therefore, she is loved by Neo Nazis, KKK, White Supremacists and now some Islamic journalists.
AgouraMo 2 years ago
AgouraMo; If you want to judge people by their background look at the terrorist background of the founders of Israel! Why don't you do that? Is that too close for comfort?
ZedYahood2 2 years ago 4
Do I think 6M really died ? I am in no position to know. I'm more concerned about the monopolization of the word "holocaust". Putting a Jewish face on victimhood. The mass deportations to certain death at Soviet gulags went on longer and victimized far more human beings - the idea was the brainchild of "Stalin's Jews". Finkelstein is right - Holocaust museums are a public relations stunt that enables mass murderers to hide behind victims.
4449911 2 years ago 6
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@4449911 Islam is a death-cult created by a child-fucking psychopath named mo-ham-head. Everywhere in the world where Islam is in the majority it has brought backwardness, bigotry, oppression, destruction and tremendous suffering.
Islam teaches hate, it orders the killing or subjugation of non-Muslims, it denigrates women and it violates human rights. I piss into the dead, empty skull of your pedophile prophet and wipe my ass on pages ripped out of the koran.
MrBoris552 3 months ago
This woman is a complete fraud....just Google her.
AgouraMo 2 years ago
AgouraMo ; I don't judge what people say based on who they are. Even If you say something interesting and intelligent I will listen to what you say even though I know what kind of person you are!
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
AgouraMo; If you want to judge people by their background look at the terrorist background of the founders of Israel! Why don't you do that? Is that too close for comfort?
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
I should try that when I get time - idle curiosity.
Turn-speak to twist-speak was enough for me.
4449911 2 years ago
Zedyahood: "People outside the USA" that is funny. Tell me about the rights of women and gays in Iran? Also, let me know who elected you as representative of the world? You are very funny.
AgouraMo 2 years ago
AgouraMo you are trying desperate measures again which shows you are frustrated!
In Europe there are so many Holocaust deniers that they had to make it a crime to silent the people! In Asia you can hardly find anyone who believes in Holocaust! If there was a Holocaust it would be the massacre of 16 million Chinese civilians or the firebombing of Tokyo or the massacre of 5 million Vietnamese by the USA! If you are looking for a real Holocaust look for it in Asia.
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
Listen to this video and see how Dr. Finkestein tears the moderator apart. Very Cool.
AgouraMo 2 years ago
AgouraMo; this is an interview not a debate! The guy is not a moderator, he is only an interviewer.
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
ZedYahood: this guy is a moderator. The video title states "conference" not guest interviews. You are really desperate to slant anything. Well, I guess that is all you can do if you are very limited.
AgouraMo 2 years ago
AgouraMo; the conference was in Tehran and this is an interview (via satellite and telephone links) after the conference. As you can see (that is if you watch!) Finkelstein says he did not attend the conference! How could he be in a debate in the conference if he did not attend it? Use your head!
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
It sounds like you have a marketing complaint. Who is stopping other groups from having memorials? You want censorship. All events must be equally displayed in all venues? Oh yes, some Germans helped jews and that has been documented etc. The Jews who served in the Nazi party had little choice. Herman Goring : " I decide who is Jewish and who is Aryan". Jews(very few)going to Palestine occurred much earlier before an all out assault on Jews. Your being disingenuous..
AgouraMo 3 years ago
AgouraMo you make me laugh! Very funny indeed!
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
Lady Renouf whose father was a cab driver is a trained in landscape design. She was married to Sir Frank Renouf 20 yrs. her senior who later described the marriage as a "nasty accident". She was previously married to Daniel Griaznoff (a decendent of Russian nobility) and she referred to herself at the time as Countess Renouf. She is a full blown anti Semitic and has stated that "anti Semitism is caused by the anti-gentile nature of Judaism". Renouf is clearly a racist gold bricker.
AgouraMo 3 years ago
Has anyone noticed that she was introduced as a Human Rights Activist ? Is this a joke ?
kchan710 3 years ago
LOL i wish any of you idiots spoke portuguese, your boy did a horrible job of telling the story he experienced during the holocaust, in fact he told it three different ways and you can imagine how that was treated in the non-zionist-dominated press. I've nothing personal against Jews, but 6 million and you can't even get the agents telling the same silly story straight? Come off it. Stalin killed four times more Slavs anyway. Is their blood not as important?
byron84 3 years ago
byron: you miss the point. NO group of people have a monopoly on pain and suffering. The issue with the "Holocaust" is that an entire culture of people were specifically targeted for extinction for no other reason than being different. It is not numbers or methods of killing.
AgouraMo 3 years ago
You mean an entire group of people minus the thousands of Jews who were helped by the SS to emigrate illegally to Palestine and the other 150,000 who served in the Wehrmacht right? And if no group of people has a monopoly on suffering where are the Armenian and Ukranian and Hutu memorials all over this country? And why aren't there movies and news articles coming out every other day about these groups who were targeted for extinction? And why is it illegal in Europe to question the Holocaust?
byron84 3 years ago
AgouraMo; you said an entire culture of people were specifically targeted for extinction for no other reason than being different.
That is not true, the only reason Hitler did not like the Jews was because Jews betrayed Germany during and after WW! and actually sided with British and French. Don't give wrong information, we live in 21st century and we all have access to internet and information is only a click away!
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
Well, why don't you use it and quit giving everybody your Nazi biased opinion. Try a little honesty. Can't you be a Nazi and honest too?
AgouraMo 2 years ago
AgouraMo; this Nazi Nazi game doesn't work outside the USA! People of the world have far better understanding of WWII and Nazis than the Hollywood Brainwashed people of the USA.
I told you before, use your head!
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
Canadians make a hobby of trying to figure out what went wrong with the US-Americans ... who might not .... have maps ...
They're a captive media market for Imperial Press Barons ... which are probably war-hawks in disguise ... and the imaginations of commoners have been abused. Nazi Germany demonstrates what happens when myth replaces history ... but then again, the guiding myths of Nazi secret societies were deliberately based on the Anglo-American model to achieve intellectual apartheid.
4449911 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Either this woman is a complete idiot or she's hiding her calm exterior with a boiling, Nazi-like hatred beneath.
jugganaut26 4 years ago
That says more about you than it does about her.
bones555a 4 years ago 4
She is generally regarded by all as totally mad. She's a former Australian beauty contestant who got a title through marriage.
She has no qualifications apart from being an anti-semitic polemicist who attends Denier-liar conferences.
historicrecord 3 years ago
Finkelstein never disappoints - I'll take his word over anyone at the Tehran Conference. If the Committee of Five does not try to make their conference a serious attempt at truth : all the best facts are information and some of the facts is indoctrination. Besides, what Finkelstein needs is coincidentally the only way for such a Conference to shake the "hate" label.
4449911 4 years ago
4449911;
Finkelstein is not a revisionist and does not question the Holocaust; he actually says that his parents were the victims of the Holocaust although they actually did not die in Holocaust. Finkelstein only agrees that Holocaust has been abused by Israel to take political advantages and milk the world. Finkelstein ignores and dismisses all the hard evidences that revisionists present to debunk the Holocaust myth but calls himself a scholar. That is not a scholarly approach.
ZedYahood2 2 years ago
I never said Finkelstein was a revisionist, nor have I ever thought he was a Holocaust denier. He says 6M died to the same crowds that cheer his honest accounting of Zionist public relations. The 6M opinion is not really relevant (is it ?) Finkelstein is making measurements ... which draw the applause of revisionists ... not his premises or his conclusions about the data he lays out. I choose to see the Finkelstein glass as half full.
4449911 2 years ago
"Newspeak", "Turnspeak", "Twistspeak", "Spinspeak",
"Inaccuratespeak", "Evasivespeak", politicians and media give us all that nonsense, all the time.
Let's have some "Truthspeak", "Seriousresearchspeak",
"Thoroughspeak", "Honestspeak", "Factspeak" and not fall back on clichés and petty sarcasm to avoid
serious issues.
susiexxx 4 years ago
we do have some of that, one just needs to be intelligent enough to be able to use discernment
segits 4 years ago
"Turn-speak" is from the book "From Time Immemorial" by Joan Peters," this is a bastardization of Orwell's term "news-speak".
Lady Michele Renouf: "which I call twist-speak"...really?
straightchris 5 years ago
Wow! A good looking apologist for the nazis! Quoting a revisionist historian provides no 'proof' of anything. She's embarrassing. If the Zionists are so clever as to take over the whoel western world government system, maybe we should be backing them all the way! The holocaust happened. WHo knows if it was 6 million Jews or 'only' 1 million. It remains the only such genocide EVER where a country engineered a system for mass murdering people.
maven12 5 years ago
If it was 1 million that died, rather than the 6 million claimed, it makes no difference to you? How embarrassing.
Ernst Zundel has just been sentenced to 5 years for his research, why not have an open and honest debate on TV so everyone can reach their own conclusions? Why imprison someone just because you can't hack their research and arguments?
susiexxx 5 years ago
If one person was murdered it was too much. That's the point. I reckon you should be embarrassed. Please engage your brain next time.
I don't know of Ernst Zundel except that he is a lover of Hitler. He should be able to say what he wants. But if he is inciting hatred (of any group), it becomes a problem. Maybe, on that basis, his jailing is reasonable rather than just because he's a Nazi lover.
maven12 5 years ago
I'm not at all embarrassed about having an enquiring mind, I'm also not embarrassed about listening to what other people have to say and learning from it. I can't accept Finkelstein's stunted beliefs which start at a point he determines and beyond which he isn't able to debate. Stock answers recited parrot fashion are the defence of the weak, who then need to make laws against thought, speech and enquiry which might expose that weakness.
susiexxx 5 years ago
I find it too to be an uncomfortable and contradictive irony how finkelstein advocates free speech yet is absolutely adamant about his/the "BOTTOM LINE"
segits 4 years ago 2
public officials can incite hatred even indirectly, just look at bush admin. so then where can the line be drawn...it is a known unfortunate fact, that moral upperhand is where the power just happens to currently be!
segits 4 years ago
even if it was the only such genocide, that doesn't justify the other genocides to be overlooked, which has happened greatly.
segits 4 years ago
even if it was the only such genocide, that doesn't justify the other genocides to be overlooked, which has happened greatly.
segits 4 years ago 7
The real Holocaust was done upon the German cities of Dresden Freiburg and other port cities.
Hundreds of thousands of civilians engulfed in hellish Fire storms created by the Phosphorus,Napalm and Explosive munitions.
Ever wondered why you hardly hear about that ?
MonkeyMagic88 5 years ago
there can be no denial, that she's pretty
hpmc61 5 years ago